How do we fix the zoo?
Summary
TLDRThis video explores the impact of zoos on both animals and humans, driven by a question from a subscriber. It examines whether zoos help animals thrive in the wild or improve human empathy for conservation. Experts weigh in on animal cognitive complexity, noting that many zoo animals, like elephants and primates, can't be released into the wild. While zoos may raise awareness, evidence of their direct conservation impact is limited. The video suggests a shift toward focusing on species better suited for reintroduction and fostering empathy for all creatures, big or small.
Takeaways
- 🦁 Zoos often cause animals to suffer from boredom and stress, leading to stereotypical behaviors like hair pulling and pacing.
- 👪 Zoos can foster empathy by encouraging visitors, especially parents and children, to imagine what it’s like to be animals.
- 🌍 Zoos aim to contribute to conservation by educating the public and protecting endangered species, but this impact is debatable.
- 🧠 Cognitive complexity in animals makes reintroduction to the wild difficult for species like elephants and orangutans, which require long learning periods.
- 🦅 Some species, like the California Condor, have been successfully bred in zoos and released into the wild, though such programs are rare.
- 🐘 Zoos are unlikely to serve as backups for large, cognitively complex species like elephants or gorillas, who cannot easily be reintroduced to the wild.
- 📉 Studies show that zoo visits may not significantly improve people's conservation behavior, with minimal impact on attitudes towards habitat protection.
- 🧑🔬 Conservation psychologist Susan Clayton believes zoos help expand our circle of empathy, but evidence suggests their role in conservation is limited.
- 🌳 The future of zoos may involve focusing on species that can successfully be reintroduced, like smaller animals or those less cognitively complex.
- 🧠 People’s desire to connect with non-human creatures could be satisfied by appreciating local wildlife and nature, encouraging a shift in how zoos operate.
Q & A
What concern did Gaurav raise about zoos?
-Gaurav questioned whether visiting zoos as a child was wrong after learning that animals in zoos often suffer from boredom and stress.
How do zoos contribute to conservation efforts according to their marketing?
-Zoos market themselves as organizations that protect endangered species and help humans become better stewards of the planet by fostering empathy and care for animals.
What are stereotypies, and why are they concerning in zoos?
-Stereotypies are repetitive behaviors like hair pulling, tongue flicking, bobbing, and swaying, which indicate under-stimulation and stress in animals, raising concerns about their well-being in captivity.
What is 'the circle of empathy,' and how do zoos help expand it?
-The circle of empathy refers to the idea of caring for an expanding group beyond one's close family and friends. Zoos may help people imagine what it’s like to be an animal, potentially fostering empathy and concern for different species.
What is the key concept of cognitive complexity in animals, and why is it important in zoo discussions?
-Cognitive complexity refers to the time it takes for animals to learn survival skills in the wild. For cognitively complex species like elephants and orangutans, releasing zoo animals back into the wild is extremely difficult because they require years to learn these skills.
What is an example of a successful zoo conservation program mentioned in the video?
-The California Condor breeding program is highlighted as a successful example where zoo animals were raised and then released into the wild, helping to save the species from extinction.
Why are reintroduction programs rare for cognitively complex animals?
-Reintroducing cognitively complex animals like elephants, lions, or gorillas into the wild is challenging because they require years to learn survival skills that are difficult to replicate in zoos, making successful releases rare.
Do visits to zoos make people more conservation-minded?
-Studies show that zoo visits slightly increase awareness of actions like recycling, but there is little evidence that they significantly change attitudes or behaviors regarding habitat protection.
What is the proposed solution for improving zoos' roles in conservation?
-The video suggests that zoos could stop breeding cognitively complex animals for captivity and focus instead on breeding and releasing animals that can thrive in the wild, like turtles and fish, while also educating visitors on local wildlife.
How does the narrator’s perspective on zoos change throughout the video?
-Initially, the narrator questioned whether zoos do more harm than good, but by the end, they believe that zoos can still play a positive role in education and conservation if they focus on species that can be successfully reintroduced into the wild and help foster empathy for all animals, even smaller or less popular species.
Outlines
🤔 Questioning the Role of Zoos: Gaurav's Inquiry
The narrator introduces a question from a subscriber named Gaurav, who used to enjoy visiting zoos as a child but later became concerned about the negative effects of captivity on animals. The narrator, a parent to a young child, is personally invested in the topic as zoos play a part in their daily life. They acknowledge the apparent tension between zoos as conservation efforts and the distress animals in captivity may experience, citing examples of stereotypies in zoo animals. This sparks two main questions: how zoos impact both animals and humans, and whether zoos fulfill their intended roles.
👨👩👦 Building Empathy at Zoos: A Psychological Perspective
The narrator consults Susan Clayton, a conservation psychologist who observes how people interact with animals at zoos. Clayton notes that zoos offer parents opportunities to teach their children about conservation. Visitors often relate to the animals, imagining themselves in the animals’ position, which could foster greater empathy. This psychological phenomenon, known as expanding the circle of empathy, can shift people’s concern beyond their immediate social circles to include other species. The narrator reflects on their own zoo experiences growing up, where hands-on interactions with animals helped develop empathy and connection with wildlife.
📚 The Role of Zoos in Conservation: Evaluating Effectiveness
The narrator introduces Emma Marris, a science writer who explores the pros and cons of zoos in her book *Wild Souls*. Marris questions whether the benefits of zoos, such as conservation and education, outweigh the potential harm to animals. She emphasizes two points: whether zoos help wild populations and whether they influence human attitudes toward conservation. The idea that zoos serve as reserves for endangered species is complicated by the challenges of reintroducing many animals into the wild, especially cognitively complex species like orangutans and elephants. Marris' research highlights that only a small number of zoo species are successfully released into the wild.
🐘 Cognitive Complexity and Reintroduction Challenges
The concept of cognitive complexity is introduced to explain why many zoo animals cannot be released back into the wild. Certain species, like elephants and orangutans, spend years learning critical survival skills, making it nearly impossible to reintroduce them after captivity. The narrator contrasts these species with others, such as the California condor, which requires less time to learn survival skills and has had successful reintroduction programs. This realization shifts the narrator’s understanding of why zoos struggle to reintroduce certain species, leading to a deeper reflection on the role of zoos in wildlife conservation.
🦅 Zoo Reintroduction Programs: Rare Success Stories
The narrator shares data showing that out of the 8,700 species in zoos worldwide, only 117 have reintroduction programs. This reveals the rarity of successful reintroductions, challenging the common perception that zoos serve as a fallback for endangered species. The narrator expresses skepticism about the long-term benefits of keeping cognitively complex animals in captivity, concluding that the drawbacks are more apparent. They then shift focus to another question: whether visiting zoos has a positive impact on people's conservation attitudes.
📊 Do Zoos Change Conservation Attitudes? Evidence from Studies
Research into how zoos affect visitor attitudes about conservation provides mixed results. One study found that after visiting zoos, people slightly increased their focus on issues like recycling and responsible consumption, but fewer people mentioned habitat protection as a concern. This suggests that while zoos may influence some behaviors, they don’t significantly improve attitudes toward conservation. The narrator concludes that the current model of zoos doesn't provide strong evidence of fostering meaningful conservation efforts.
🔄 Rethinking Zoos: Species-Specific Approaches
The narrator begins to consider a new approach for zoos, suggesting that zoos stop breeding cognitively complex animals for captivity and focus on species that can be reintroduced into the wild. They propose a shift in zoo conservation efforts toward species like turtles, fish, and freshwater mussels, which have had more successful reintroductions. This would allow zoos to better support wildlife while still providing humans with opportunities to connect with non-human species.
🌿 Expanding Empathy Beyond Zoos: Everyday Wildlife
The narrator reflects on how people often overlook everyday wildlife like squirrels, birds, and insects. They suggest that fostering empathy for these creatures could be another way to connect humans to the natural world, without relying on zoos. The narrator’s perspective has evolved since childhood, believing that through education, people can change their views on animals and conservation.
📹 Thank You and Call to Action for Viewers
In the closing, the narrator thanks viewers for joining them on this exploration of zoos and their role in conservation. They encourage viewers to check out related videos, including one on unions in the U.S., and invite subscribers to submit questions for future videos. A call to action encourages people to get involved and potentially appear on camera as part of future Vox videos.
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Keywords
💡Zoos
💡Conservation
💡Cognitive Complexity
💡Empathy
💡Stereotypies
💡Reintroduction Programs
💡Circle of Empathy
💡Endangered Species
💡Conservation Psychology
💡Habitat Protection
Highlights
Gaurav questions whether zoos are beneficial after learning that animals often suffer from boredom.
The author, a parent of a young toddler, reflects on zoos' dual purpose of making kids happy and marketing themselves as forces for conservation.
Zoos claim to protect endangered species and foster empathy, but evidence shows animals may experience stress and under-stimulation.
Susan Clayton, a conservation psychologist, explains that zoo visitors often empathize with animals, imagining themselves in the animals' place.
This 'circle of empathy' expands as people start caring not just for their family and friends, but also for other species.
Emma Marris questions whether the benefits of zoos to wild animals outweigh the discomfort or unhappiness zoo animals may experience.
The idea of zoos as 'backup' populations for wild species is questioned, particularly for large, cognitively complex animals.
Cognitively complex animals like orangutans, elephants, and orcas require years of learning in the wild, making it difficult to release zoo animals back into their natural habitats.
The California Condor's successful reintroduction after 180 days of zoo breeding shows that not all animals struggle with release, but these cases are rare.
There are 8,700 species in zoos worldwide, yet only 117 reintroduction programs, indicating that few species are actually released back into the wild.
The concept of zoos releasing large, complex animals into the wild is unlikely; these animals will likely remain in zoos for life.
A study shows that zoo visits slightly increase awareness of recycling and responsible purchasing but decrease focus on habitat protection.
The author suggests rethinking zoos to stop breeding cognitively complex animals for captivity and instead focus on species that can thrive after release.
Educating visitors could lead to a change in perspective, enabling empathy for smaller species like turtles, fish, or mussels.
The author calls for a shift in empathy toward commonly overlooked species like squirrels, robins, pigeons, and even plants and insects.
Transcripts
A few months ago we got this question from one of our subscribers, Gaurav.
When I was a kid, one of my most favorite
things to do was to visit a zoo.
But as I grew older, I came across evidence
to the fact that animals in zoos often suffer from boredom.
Was the younger version of me wrong?
I wanted to dig into Gaurav's question
in part because as a parent of a young toddler
zoos are very much a part of my everyday life.
Going to the zoo clearly makes my kid happy.
And most zoos market themselves as a force for conservation
protecting endangered species and making us humans
better stewards of the planet.
But then there's that evidence Gaurav mentioned.
Videos showing what zoologist call stereotypies:
Repetitive behaviors like hair pulling, tongue flicking
bobbing and swaying that indicate under-stimulation and stress.
All of this left me with a couple questions:
What are zoos doing for humans, and for animals?
And are they doing what we want them to?
My first call was to Susan Clayton, a conservation psychologist
whose job is basically to go to the zoo and spy on people.
We watch people and we listen to people
and, you know, pay attention to what they say.
Parents will use that as an opportunity to talk to their children
about how it's important to try and keep species from going extinct.
But something much more concrete and more simple also happens.
Susan and her colleagues noticed that around primates in particular
visitors will frequently imagine themselves in the animals' place.
They might speak as if they were the animal.
"What are these people looking at me for?"
So you are temporarily imagining what it would be like to be the animal.
That does open the door to a greater empathy and concern.
Susan is describing an expansion of what philosophers
call our circle of empathy.
We might start by only caring about our family and close friends
but we can extend that circle to include other people
and even other species.
I was just wondering if that kind of resonates with you as far as thinking back
to your experiences in zoos growing up?
Yeah, absolutely.
Sometimes they would even allow us to feed giraffes.
We were allowed to touch some snakes and things like that.
I used to love going back to that zoo
so that they can create this bond and this empathy with animals.
So maybe zoos help us feel more empathy for animals.
But is that enough?
Emma Marris is a science writer
who spends a good chunk of her book, Wild Souls
trying to answer this question.
Do the benefits of zoos to wild animals and to conservation
outweigh any minimal amount of discomfort
or unhappiness that the animals in the zoo might experience?
Talking with Emma convinced me that
instead of just looking for pros and cons
I should look for evidence for two claims:
That keeping animals in a zoo somehow helps wild populations thrive.
And that visiting them has a measurable impact
on human attitudes about conservation.
Lucky for me
Emma had already spent a lot of time looking into this first question.
The idea that zoo animals are a sort of backup or reserve.
That sounds reasonable, right?
Basically, if a species was about to go extinct
we could replenish their numbers with these reserve animals
who had spent their lives in zoos.
The tricky part about that is that for a lot of species
especially the bigger, more cognitively complex species
putting them back out into the wild is incredibly difficult.
The key to knowing which ones can actually be released
is a concept called cognitive complexity.
A good way to think about it is to look at how long it takes
for a particular species to learn skills in the wild.
Orangutans stay with their mothers for up to 9 years.
It takes elephants the same amount of time to learn how to function
as members of one of the most complex social groups in the animal kingdom.
Orcas stay with their mothers until age 13.
For lions, polar bears, and gorillas, it's at least 2 years.
Once you realize how much these cognitively complex animals
have to learn to survive in the wild
it makes sense why the ones you see in zoos
could never join their wild cousins.
This idea of cognitive complexity
was just really game changing for me as far as
understanding why so few zoo animals are able to be out in the wild.
When you were talking about this, I had a few examples in my head.
I remember seeing the footage of a
baby gazelle that cheetahs often hunt.
So the mother would capture the baby gazelle
and let her cubs, you know, go out and finish it, like kill it.
This is very hard to replicate in a zoo.
For comparison, the California Condor
only needs 180 days to learn how to survive after hatching.
And a program to save them from extinction
by breeding them in zoos and releasing them in the wild
has been a huge success.
But these programs are incredibly rare.
According to the Association for Zoos and Aquariums website
there are approximately 8700 species represented in zoos around the world
and just 117 reintroduction programs.
This sort of notion that someday they're going to be like
"Oh, we ran out of elephants."
"Let's get all the ones from the zoo
and just pop them out into Africa and Asia."
Like, that's not going to happen.
They're never going to let them out.
They're going to die in those zoos.
For cognitively complex animals
it's really hard for me to see the benefits
and the drawbacks seem pretty obvious.
But what about the second item on the list?
Does visiting the zoo make us more conservation minded?
One study gave visitors a survey
when they first got to the zoo and asked them to write down actions
they could think of that would help save animal species,
then have them do the same thing after they'd visited the exhibits.
Slightly more people mentioned recycling
responsible purchasing and diet choices.
But the share of visitors who mentioned habitat protection actually decreased.
So I really didn't find much evidence that zoos in their current form
do much to help wild populations
or change people's attitudes and behavior.
But what if we could imagine a different kind of zoo?
My initial question was:
Do the benefits of zoos outweigh its cons?
But now, after listening to this
and the evidence that you have provided
now I feel that we must assess each species individually.
If zoos stopped breeding cognitively complex animals
for captivity
and then release those they have to wildlife sanctuaries
like this one in Tennessee
they could devote more time and space
to threatened species who can successfully be released into the wild.
Sometimes these are turtles or fish or freshwater mussels, right?
Like these are not necessarily your big blockbuster mammals.
To satisfy our very real desire
to see and hear and connect with non-human creatures,
we might need to extend that circle of empathy in a different direction.
So we see squirrels or robins or pigeons, and we're like meh.
But actually, the more I learn about these animals and insects
and the plants that are in the city, the street trees,
the more fascinating I find them.
Do you think we could design zoo experiences that people would want
that are based on these different species?
I used to love going to zoos and seeing the big animals.
I mean, not having them around would be kind of sad
for the younger version of myself, but I think I have changed
and that's because of education.
And I think people can also change if we...
if we educate them.
Thank you so much for watching.
I really enjoyed digging into this question about zoos with Gaurav.
And if you haven't watched it already
definitely go watch Joss's video about unions in the US.
That one was inspired by another question from a subscriber, Cameron.
We're really excited to make a whole series of videos like this
videos driven by your questions.
So, if you're up for going on camera and
being a part of a Vox video
hit us up!
We'll get some answers.
Link to the submission form in the description below.
Thanks for watching!
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