Is it impossible to be private online?

Eric Murphy
24 May 202410:38

Summary

TLDRThe video challenges the 'Privacy Doomers,' who believe protecting online privacy is pointless due to the extensive surveillance by big tech and governments. It argues that while complete privacy may be impossible, taking steps to minimize data sharing is still valuable. The speaker highlights how privacy tools and awareness have grown mainstream, making it easier than ever for people to protect themselves. The message encourages viewers not to give up but to find a balanced approach to privacy that suits their needs, emphasizing that every small action can make a difference in the fight for online privacy.

Takeaways

  • 💻 People often argue that there's no point in protecting online privacy since big tech companies already know everything about you.
  • 🤔 The concept of 'Privacy Doomers' refers to those who believe it's futile to fight for privacy in a world where data collection is rampant.
  • 🛡️ While it's impossible to achieve total privacy, taking steps to minimize data collection is still valuable and achievable.
  • 🌐 Mass surveillance, revealed by Edward Snowden, shows the scale at which governments and big tech companies monitor digital activity.
  • 😑 Many people feel complacent about privacy, believing that the convenience of using services like Google and Facebook outweighs concerns.
  • 🔍 Privacy isn’t all or nothing; small actions like using privacy-respecting browsers, search engines, and blocking trackers can make a big difference.
  • 🚶‍♂️ You don't have to live off-grid to protect your privacy—it's about finding the level of privacy that works for you.
  • 📉 Just because companies have already collected a lot of your data doesn’t mean you should stop caring about future privacy breaches.
  • 📱 Mainstream awareness about privacy is growing, and tools like Brave, DuckDuckGo, and Signal make it easier for everyday people to protect their data.
  • 👥 By taking privacy-conscious actions and explaining them to others, you can influence others' behavior and contribute to a more privacy-aware society.

Q & A

  • What is the main argument of the 'privacy doomers'?

    -The 'privacy doomers' argue that caring about privacy is pointless because big tech companies and governments have already collected so much data, making it impossible to achieve total privacy without going completely off-grid.

  • How does the speaker view privacy, compared to the 'privacy doomers'?

    -The speaker views privacy as something that exists on a spectrum, rather than an all-or-nothing issue. They believe in minimizing data collection rather than aiming for total privacy, arguing that small steps can significantly improve one's privacy.

  • Why does the speaker reject the idea of giving up on privacy?

    -The speaker rejects giving up on privacy because even though big tech companies have collected a lot of data, it's still possible to limit further data collection. They argue that protecting your data moving forward is important to prevent future harm.

  • What low-effort steps does the speaker recommend for improving online privacy?

    -The speaker recommends using privacy-respecting browsers like Brave or Firefox, installing an ad blocker like uBlock Origin, and using privacy-focused search engines such as DuckDuckGo, Brave Search, or StartPage.

  • Why does the speaker believe that privacy has gone mainstream?

    -The speaker notes that privacy tools, like DuckDuckGo, are now being advertised on mainstream platforms such as TV, and even large companies like Apple are highlighting privacy as a key feature in their marketing, indicating growing public awareness.

  • What is the importance of taking action regarding privacy, according to the speaker?

    -The speaker emphasizes that taking even small actions, such as switching to a more private browser or not using Facebook, can have a positive influence on others. They argue that individual actions help bring more awareness and promote the development of privacy tools.

  • How does the speaker criticize the 'privacy doomers'?

    -The speaker criticizes 'privacy doomers' for being overly pessimistic and argues that their stance is often a coping mechanism for inaction. They believe this pessimism contributes to a worse outcome because it discourages people from making any effort to protect their privacy.

  • What role did Edward Snowden’s 2013 revelations play in the privacy debate?

    -Edward Snowden’s 2013 revelations exposed the extent of mass government surveillance, showing how governments collaborated with tech companies to monitor online activities. While these revelations shocked many, they also led some to feel hopeless about protecting their privacy.

  • Why does the speaker think the argument that 'it’s too late to care about privacy' is flawed?

    -The speaker believes this argument is flawed because, even though much data has already been collected, people can still take steps to prevent further data collection. The speaker likens it to installing locks on your house after a burglary to prevent future theft.

  • How does the speaker balance convenience and privacy in their personal life?

    -The speaker acknowledges the need for compromises, such as still using WhatsApp to stay connected with friends. They argue that striving for better privacy doesn’t require perfection but should focus on minimizing the data shared with big tech companies.

Outlines

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🤔 The Privacy Doomer Mentality

The first paragraph introduces the concept of 'Privacy doomers,' individuals who believe that online privacy is futile because big tech companies like Google and Facebook have already collected vast amounts of personal data. The speaker reflects on why people adopt this perspective, referencing the 2013 Snowden revelations that exposed massive government surveillance. Despite the alarming findings, the general public continued to use tech products, largely due to convenience. The narrative shifted from disbelief to acceptance, making privacy advocates feel like their efforts might be in vain.

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🛠️ Privacy is a Spectrum, Not All or Nothing

This paragraph discusses the misconception that online privacy is an all-or-nothing endeavor. The speaker argues that while it's impossible to achieve perfect privacy without going completely off-grid, small steps can make a significant difference. Simple actions like using a privacy-respecting browser, blocking trackers, and minimizing data sharing can greatly improve one's privacy. The goal is to find a personal balance between privacy and convenience, rather than giving up entirely because total privacy isn't achievable.

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🔒 Take Action to Minimize Data Collection

Here, the speaker emphasizes that while big tech companies have already collected a significant amount of data, this shouldn't discourage people from taking steps to protect their privacy moving forward. Using the analogy of securing a house after a break-in, they argue that it’s never too late to start caring about online privacy. Companies are investing billions to collect even more data, not just on past activities but to predict future behavior, so cutting off data collection now still matters.

📈 The Growing Awareness Around Privacy

This paragraph highlights the shift in public awareness about online privacy. The speaker points out that privacy tools and discussions have gone mainstream, with more accessible options like DuckDuckGo and Brave browser becoming popular. Even tech giants like Apple are marketing privacy as a key feature. As more people care about privacy, more alternatives emerge, offering better protection. The speaker encourages critique of these tools while acknowledging their progress compared to invasive options.

🌱 Small Actions Can Make a Difference

The final paragraph concludes with a message of optimism. The speaker refutes the idea that pessimism is a smarter or more realistic perspective, instead framing it as a form of inaction. They encourage people to take small but meaningful steps, such as using privacy-focused tools and spreading awareness to others. These actions contribute to a larger movement that pushes back against the privacy-invasive status quo. By simply caring, individuals can influence others and help improve the digital landscape.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Privacy Doomers

Privacy Doomers are individuals who believe that protecting online privacy is futile because companies like Google and governments already know everything about us. This term reflects the video's theme of skepticism toward privacy efforts. The video addresses the pessimistic outlook of Privacy Doomers, arguing that although complete privacy is difficult, it is not an all-or-nothing situation.

💡Mass Surveillance

Mass Surveillance refers to the large-scale monitoring of people's online activities by governments and corporations, as revealed by Edward Snowden in 2013. In the video, it is used to explain the extent of online privacy violations and the feeling of helplessness that leads people to stop caring about privacy.

💡Big Tech

Big Tech represents major technology companies like Google and Facebook that collect vast amounts of data from users. The video highlights how these companies profit by tracking users, reinforcing the argument that protecting privacy is important despite how much data has already been gathered.

💡Convenience vs. Privacy

This concept addresses the trade-off between the convenience of using popular platforms like Facebook and the loss of privacy. The video explains that many people continue using services that track them because it's too convenient to stop, even though they are aware of the privacy risks.

💡Snowden Revelations

Edward Snowden’s revelations refer to the 2013 leaks that exposed how governments, particularly the U.S., were conducting mass surveillance of citizens’ digital communications. This event is a key example in the video to show how far-reaching privacy violations are, yet it didn't provoke widespread change in people’s online habits.

💡Privacy Tools

Privacy Tools are resources like privacy-respecting browsers, search engines, and encryption services that help users reduce the amount of personal data they share online. The video lists examples such as Brave, DuckDuckGo, and ProtonMail, showing how easy it can be to improve privacy with minimal effort.

💡Data Collection

Data Collection is the process by which companies and governments gather user information from online activities. The video emphasizes that, while much data may have already been collected, it’s still important to minimize the collection of future data by using privacy-conscious tools.

💡End-to-End Encryption

End-to-End Encryption is a method of secure communication where only the communicating users can read the messages. The video mentions this technology as an example of how privacy tools have become more accessible to the average person, making it easier to protect their communications.

💡Mainstream Privacy Awareness

Mainstream Privacy Awareness refers to the growing recognition of privacy issues in the general public, as shown by ads for privacy-respecting services like DuckDuckGo. The video argues that this increasing awareness demonstrates that more people care about privacy now than ever before.

💡Threat Level

Threat Level in the context of privacy refers to the level of risk or exposure a person is willing to tolerate regarding their personal data. The video encourages viewers to find their own acceptable level of privacy and adjust their behaviors accordingly, rather than aiming for perfect privacy, which is nearly impossible.

Highlights

The argument that it's pointless to protect privacy because Google already knows everything about you.

The belief that privacy is impossible unless you go completely off-grid and live in the woods.

Introduction of 'Privacy Doomers,' individuals who think that caring about privacy is futile.

Reference to Edward Snowden's 2013 leaks revealing mass government surveillance and its wide-reaching impacts.

How the US government monitored Americans' online activity, and how other governments did the same.

Most people were indifferent to the revelations, continuing to use products like Google and Facebook despite knowing about surveillance.

The convenience factor as a reason for people ignoring privacy concerns.

The false belief that privacy is an all-or-nothing deal and that small steps don't matter.

The notion that privacy doesn't have to be extreme and that small changes, like using privacy-respecting browsers or blocking trackers, make a significant difference.

The analogy of securing a house after it's been broken into, showing why it's still important to care about privacy even after data has been collected.

Mainstream awareness about privacy is growing, with more people choosing privacy-respecting tools like DuckDuckGo and Brave.

The availability of more privacy-respecting tools today compared to 5-10 years ago.

The influence of individual actions on others—how even simple decisions, like not using Facebook, can raise awareness about privacy.

Criticism of 'Privacy Doomers' for their pessimism and for giving up, which the speaker argues only makes the problem worse.

Encouragement to take action and use privacy tools, rather than succumbing to defeatism, which can still make a difference.

Transcripts

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every time I post a video about online

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privacy I always hear from these types

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of people what's the point in trying to

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protect your privacy Google already

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knows everything about you they've

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already collected so much information

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about you already just give up it's

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impossible to have any privacy unless

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you go completely off- grid and live in

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the woods so why bother if you've seen

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some comments like this you might be

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wondering are they right is there really

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a point in caring about online privacy

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or is it just inevitable that you'll be

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tracked no matter what you do should we

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just give up and because there's nothing

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we can do about it anyway there's a big

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movement that says that caring about

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online privacy doesn't matter I call

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them the Privacy doomers you know

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doomers the Eternal pessimists that

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think that giving up is the rational

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perspective but let's take their

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arguments seriously because I actually

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understand where they're coming from in

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2013 Edward Snowden leaked documents

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that revealed that government Mass

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surveillance was worse than anyone could

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have imagined he came out with documents

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showing how the US government was

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monitoring vast amounts of Americans h

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online activity the government was in

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bed with just about every big tech

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company and they could read through your

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search history your email your Facebook

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messages your text messages and just

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about anything that you did digitally

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Americans International Communications

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could be monitored without a warrant

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they cooperated and shared data with

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other governments who were also doing

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the same thing governments around the

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world were collecting as much data as

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possible about everyone no matter if you

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were innocent or guilty and sure it was

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massive news but the worst part was was

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what happened next not much most people

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just didn't care Google and Facebook and

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the rest of big tech only kept growing

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people continued to use these products

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knowing full well that they were being

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surveilled at all times why well because

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it was too convenient you can't expect

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someone to not use Facebook right and so

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the narrative went from the government

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would never care about tracking little

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old me to well they track everything I

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do but it's not like I'm doing anything

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wrong people just accepted that they had

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no privacy and moved on with their lives

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and when you realize that the vast

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majority of people are just too naive to

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care it can make fighting for online

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privacy feel like an impossible task the

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war is over we've already lost time to

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go home because how do you beat a

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revoltion like the government is spying

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on everyone at all times if that doesn't

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wake people up nothing will because

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things have only gotten worse since then

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it's now extremely common knowledge that

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big Tech knows everything about you and

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that you pay for all the free sites out

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there with your data but again nobody

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cares everybody still keeps using them

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companies make it explicit that your

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privacy is for sale now there's even

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products like this TV that you can get

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for free you just pay by giving away all

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your personal data to them and 500,000

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people immediately signed up to get one

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so normal people still don't care about

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privacy even after everything has

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happened it's over wow even I'm starting

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to get a little bit pessimistic so I

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understand where these people are coming

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from if you only look at how bad things

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have gotten things can look pretty grim

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but that's not the full story let's

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listen to the Privacy Doomer arguments

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about why there's no point in caring and

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see if they're right or not the most

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common counterargument I hear is that

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caring about privacy is worthless

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because you'll never have total privacy

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maybe you care about privacy and you use

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a privacy respecting search engine and

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email provider but yet here you are on

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YouTube being tracked by Google that

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makes all your efforts a waste right or

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some people will go crazy because they

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can't give up something like what's that

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because their friends won't all switch

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to signal so they should just give up

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right but I think the issue is that a

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lot of people see privacy as a black or

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white thing but it's not an All or

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Nothing thing if you want to Disappear

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Completely you have to go completely Off

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the Grid live in a cabin in the middle

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of nowhere and become a ghost in the

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eyes of big Tech and the government but

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that's not my goal I'm not trying to

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Disappear Completely my goal is just to

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minimize the personal data I share and

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you actually don't even need to put in

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much work to improve your privacy by

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aign

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there's a lot of low hanging fruit that

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a lot of people don't pick switch to a

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privacy respecting browser like braver

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Firefox install you block origin to

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block trackers and use a privacy

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respecting search engine like Brave Duck

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Duck Go or start page that already

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improves your privacy by a lot you

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should just find the level of privacy

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you need or want and get on with the

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rest of your life because you have to

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find the level of privacy that works for

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you some people call this a threat level

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but like I've talked about before

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privacy is aect

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and you don't need to be on the extremes

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people think you either have no privacy

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or you need Snowden level privacy but

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they're wrong there's a whole range in

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between if you no longer give companies

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your browsing history allow them to

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track you around websites with cookies

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and give them access to all of your

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search results you've already made a lot

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of progress that's a lot of data points

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that they're no longer collecting about

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you and in determining the level of

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privacy you need you have to make

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sacrifices for the sake of convenience

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for example I still use WhatsApp to

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contact some people in my life because I

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can't convince everyone to use signal so

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I don't have perfect privacy not that it

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exists anyway but I do the most I can to

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minimize the data that big Tech can use

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against me like I've said before don't

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make perfect the enemy of the good just

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because you can't go completely off the

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grid doesn't mean you shouldn't take

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steps to improve your privacy now I

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could go Ultra paranoid and only use an

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ancient libbre booted ThinkPad cut off

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any friend that doesn't use signal pay

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every transaction in my life with cash

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and nuke my YouTube account but it's

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just not worth it for me I accept that

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some data is being collected about me so

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the doomers are right in a way that data

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is being collected about you and it's

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virtually impossible to opt out

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completely but I choose to minimize the

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data that they can collect rather than

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just throwing my hands up and giving up

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people will also say that they've

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already collected so much data about me

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so what's the point and they're right if

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you've ever used the internet before Big

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Data probably has collected a lot of

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info about you but that's all the more

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reason not to give them any more data

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the argument just doesn't make any sense

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to me it's like you have a house without

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any locks in it and someone breaks in

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and takes all of your valuables would

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you say oh they've already taken so much

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it's too late to start caring about

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security now or would you replace the

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door and install locks in a security

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system sure you've already given out a

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lot of data you can't undo the damage

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but you can prevent future damage and if

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you think that they've already gathered

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too much information about you if they

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had big Tech wouldn't be spending

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billions of dollarss to further collect

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even more data about you it's not enough

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for them that they just collect

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information about your past they want to

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be able to predict your future by

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cutting off your data you're taking that

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away from them a lot of people also

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don't realize that caring about online

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privacy has gone mainstream there's more

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people that care than ever before and as

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a result easily accessible privacy tools

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have also gone mainstream a few months

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ago I saw a duck duck goo ad on TV and

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they were advertising how their search

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engine was the private alternative to

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Google and regardless of how you feel

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about Duck Duck Go the fact is they're

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much better regarding privacy than

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something like Google and it really made

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me realize just how mainstream the

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discussion of privacy has become I don't

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think 10 years ago you could run an ad

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like that and have people care but these

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days people are aware of the issues with

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big Tech and are more likely to choose

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the private option I was talking to my

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brother a while back who was just a

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normal person not a weird privacy

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Advocate like me and I learned that he

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uses the brave browser I did didn't have

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to preach to him about why he should use

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a more private browser he was just using

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it because it was the superior choice

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and as people become more aware about

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how privacy is important there are now

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more options than ever 5 or 10 years ago

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if you wanted to put analytics on your

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website I would have only thought to use

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Google analytics but now if you want a

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more privacy respecting option I can

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name five different analytics services

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off the top of my head that respect your

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privacy so caring about privacy is

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important because it brings awareness to

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the issue the more more people that are

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aware about it the more private

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Alternatives people will create and use

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the more other companies will learn that

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privacy is something that people care

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about now and as a result now even giant

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corporations like apple are making it a

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key marketing point that their devices

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are more private and for all my

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criticism about Apple they have made

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some good privacy features available to

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normal people if you want secure private

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messaging you no longer have to be a

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computer nerd and learn about

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cryptography so you can endend encrypt

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your messages now endend encryption is

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the standard all over the place you can

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use something like proton mail or signal

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and send end to-end encrypted messages

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in no time and if everybody did just

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give up and nobody cared about online

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privacy these tools wouldn't exist and

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privacy would be inaccessible to normal

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people so it's good that people did care

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in the past and the more people do care

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the more privacy tools and options there

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will be and maybe you can start or

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contribute to the next gr privacy tool

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and I know some people might complain

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that these services are not perfect and

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sure critique them all you want as I

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have done as well but they're still much

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better than the Privacy invasive options

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out there and again you're making

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perfect the enemy of the good not only

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that but by caring about privacy you

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have an influence on other people even

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if you don't think you have any

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influence you can still make a

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difference by choosing something as

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simple as not having a Facebook I've had

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to explain it to family and friends as

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to why I don't have one and have made

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others aware of why I think privacy is

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important just an action as simple as

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not having an invasive social media

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account is a stance that other people

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take notice of and you might start to

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influence their decisions now if you've

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watched any of my videos you know I can

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be pessimistic about big Tech sometimes

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I'm not saying just be a blind Optimist

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and stick your head in the sand and say

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everything is going to be fine but the

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difference is I actually do something

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about it I think there are good

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Solutions we can Implement to mitigate a

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lot of the surveillance and I don't

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think the solution is to just lay down

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and die if everyone thought like privacy

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doomers none of this would even be a

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discussion but it's because people care

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that the discussion about online privacy

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has gone from Fringe to mainstream a lot

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of pessimists see themselves as smarter

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than everyone else because they see the

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world for how it really is but they're

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really just making the world a worse

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place by giving up and that's what a lot

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of pessimism really is when you dig down

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deep Just A coping mechanism for

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covering up the fact that you're too

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lazy to take action all you have to do

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is take action instead of doing nothing

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because just doing something as simple

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as using a privacy respecting browser or

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explaining to people why you have a to

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toota email address makes a difference

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the world needs more people who just

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care don't be a Doomer

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