Why Dooku Grew Much WEAKER with Age But Palpatine Didn't - Star Wars Explained

The Stupendous Wave
18 Sept 202411:18

Summary

TLDRDas Video untersucht den Unterschied zwischen Dookus Machtverlust im Alter und Palpatines wachsender Stärke. Obwohl Dooku anfangs einer der mächtigsten Sith war, erlitt er eine schnelle Schwächung durch die sogenannte 'Dunkle-Seite-Degeneration'. Im Gegensatz dazu konnte Palpatine seine Macht durch Erfahrung und geheime Techniken erhalten. Dooku, der später zum Sith wurde, fehlte das Wissen, um die dunklen Kräfte vollständig zu meistern. Wäre Dooku früher ausgebildet worden, hätte er möglicherweise ein ebenbürtiger Rivale für Palpatine werden können. Die Analyse beleuchtet interessante 'Was-wäre-wenn'-Szenarien.

Takeaways

  • ⚔️ Dooku schwächte sich im Alter, während Sidious stärker wurde – ein Rätsel, das viele Fans beschäftigt.
  • 🔥 Dooku war einer der mächtigsten Sith-Lords und überraschte sogar Yoda mit seiner Stärke, die er durch die dunkle Seite erlangte.
  • ⚡ Obwohl die dunkle Seite Dooku schnell immense Macht verlieh, erschöpfte sie auch seine Lebenskraft rasch.
  • 🧓 Im Gegensatz zu Sidious, der trotz seines Alters seine Kräfte durch die dunkle Seite erhielt, wurde Dooku körperlich immer schwächer.
  • 💉 Die dunkle Seite wirkt wie eine Droge: Sie gibt kurzfristige Kraft, entzieht aber langfristig die Vitalität.
  • ⏳ Dooku war bereits im fortgeschrittenen Alter, als er der dunklen Seite verfiel, was seinen Abbau beschleunigte.
  • 🔮 Sidious nutzte geheime Sith-Techniken, um seinen Körper zu stärken, während Dooku diese Fähigkeiten nicht erlernte.
  • 🌀 Palpatine kontrollierte seinen Körper wie eine Marionette durch die Macht und verschleierte sein tatsächliches Alter und seine Schwäche.
  • 📚 Dooku suchte verzweifelt nach Sith-Lehren, um seine dunkle Kraft zu erhalten, aber seine Zeit lief ab.
  • 🤔 Hätte Dooku die dunkle Seite früher genutzt, hätte er vielleicht zu einem noch gefährlicheren Rivalen für Palpatine werden können.

Q & A

  • Warum schwächte Dooku im Alter ab, während Palpatine stärker wurde?

    -Dooku hatte nur etwa ein Jahrzehnt Erfahrung mit der dunklen Seite, als er bereits ein alter Mann war. Palpatine hingegen war seit seiner Jugend ein Auserwählter der dunklen Seite, was ihm erlaubte, seine Fähigkeiten und Macht über Jahrzehnte zu verfeinern.

  • Wie beeinflusst die dunkle Seite der Macht den Körper ihrer Nutzer?

    -Die dunkle Seite wirkt wie eine Droge, die sofortige Macht gibt, aber einen hohen Preis fordert. Sie nimmt dem Nutzer Vitalität, Jugend und Schönheit, was als 'Degradation der dunklen Seite' bezeichnet wird.

  • Warum konnte Dooku sich nicht wie Palpatine durch die dunkle Seite regenerieren?

    -Dooku hatte nicht genug Zeit, die dunklen Geheimnisse und Techniken zu meistern, die Palpatine kannte, um die körperlichen Einschränkungen des Alters zu überwinden. Palpatine hatte diese Geheimnisse absichtlich vor ihm verborgen.

  • Was war Dookus Hauptstärke als Kämpfer?

    -Dooku war ein herausragender Duellant, der seinen Stolz und sein Können auf seine körperliche Stärke und sein Geschick im Lichtschwertkampf legte, anstatt sich auf die dunkle Seite der Macht zu verlassen.

  • Wie beeinflusste Dookus Jedi-Vergangenheit seine Machtentwicklung auf der dunklen Seite?

    -Dooku erhielt Vitalität und Weisheit durch seine Zeit als Jedi, aber all das wurde von der dunklen Seite der Macht wieder entzogen, als er sich ihr anschloss. Dies führte zu einem schnellen Aufstieg, gefolgt von einem schnellen Abfall seiner Kräfte.

  • Warum verlor Dooku im Kampf gegen Anakin und Obi-Wan an Kraft?

    -Dooku war bereits durch das Altern geschwächt, und die dunkle Seite hatte seinen Körper zusätzlich erschöpft. Er hatte nicht genug Erfahrung, seine Kraftreserven zu verwalten, und kämpfte hauptsächlich auf körperlicher Basis.

  • Wie unterschied sich Palpatines Verwendung der Macht von Dookus?

    -Palpatine nutzte die Macht, um seinen alternden Körper wie eine Marionette zu steuern, während Dooku mehr auf seine physische Stärke setzte. Palpatine hatte ein tiefes Verständnis der dunklen Seite, das es ihm ermöglichte, seine Kräfte effizienter zu nutzen.

  • Wie beschreibt George Lucas die dunkle Seite der Macht?

    -George Lucas verglich die dunkle Seite der Macht mit einer Droge wie Heroin oder Steroiden. Sie gibt sofortige Macht, aber der Nutzer wird abhängig und zahlt den Preis mit seiner Lebenskraft.

  • Was ist 'Force Valor', und wie nutzt Palpatine es?

    -'Force Valor' ist eine Technik der Macht, mit der Palpatine seinen Körper unterstützt und bewegt. Ohne diese Technik ist er in seinem fortgeschrittenen Alter stark auf einen Gehstock angewiesen.

  • Wie hätte sich Dookus Schicksal geändert, wenn er früher der dunklen Seite beigetreten wäre?

    -Hätte Dooku die dunkle Seite in einem jüngeren Alter betreten, hätte er möglicherweise genug Zeit gehabt, um ihre Geheimnisse zu meistern und seine Macht zu verfeinern. Er wäre dann ein viel gefährlicherer Gegner für Palpatine geworden.

Outlines

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🤔 Dooku vs. Palpatine: Warum Dooku schwächer wurde

In diesem Abschnitt wird die Frage erörtert, warum Graf Dooku (Tyranus) im Alter schwächer wurde, während Darth Sidious (Palpatine) stärker wurde. Obwohl Dooku zu Beginn des Klonkriegs als einer der mächtigsten Jedi galt, begann seine Macht bald zu schwinden. Dies lag daran, dass Dooku die Spitze seiner dunklen Kräfte bereits erreicht hatte, bevor er sie voll ausschöpfen konnte. Im Gegensatz dazu nahm Palpatines Macht weiter zu, selbst als er Dookus Alter erreichte. Der Abschnitt erklärt, dass die dunkle Seite der Macht ihre Anwender auf lange Sicht schwächt und dass Dooku dies spürte, als er gegen Anakin Skywalker kämpfte.

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⚔️ Warum Palpatine trotz Alter mächtiger blieb

Hier wird erläutert, wie Palpatine im Gegensatz zu Dooku die dunkle Seite meisterte. Palpatine konnte trotz seines Alters und der negativen Auswirkungen der dunklen Seite weiterhin immense Macht bewahren. Dies lag an seiner jahrzehntelangen Erfahrung mit der dunklen Seite, die er seit seinen 20ern studierte. Dooku hingegen begann seine Reise auf der dunklen Seite erst mit 70 Jahren. Außerdem hütete Palpatine Geheimnisse über die dunkle Seite, die es ihm ermöglichten, die Schwächen des Alterns zu überwinden – Geheimnisse, die er absichtlich vor Dooku verborgen hielt.

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📚 Dookus verzweifelter Versuch, die Zeit zurückzudrehen

Dooku versuchte während der Klonkriege verzweifelt, einen Weg zu finden, die negativen Auswirkungen des Alterns und der dunklen Seite umzukehren. Er sammelte Holocrons und suchte nach Informationen über die Techniken alter Sith-Lords wie Darth Andeddu, um seine Macht zu bewahren. Doch Dooku hatte nicht genug Zeit, um diese Geheimnisse vollständig zu ergründen, bevor sein Körper von der dunklen Seite gezeichnet war. Der Abschnitt betont, dass Dooku möglicherweise zu einem ebenbürtigen Rivalen für Palpatine hätte werden können, wenn er die dunkle Seite in jüngeren Jahren angenommen hätte.

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Keywords

💡Tyranus

Tyranus ist der Sith-Name von Count Dooku, einer der mächtigsten Sith-Lords in der Star Wars-Saga. Er ist ein zentraler Charakter im Video, der seine Macht durch die dunkle Seite der Macht gewann, jedoch aufgrund seines Alters und der Auswirkungen der dunklen Seite geschwächt wurde.

💡Sidious

Sidious, auch bekannt als Palpatine, ist der Meister von Tyranus und der dunkle Lord der Sith. Im Gegensatz zu Dooku altert Sidious langsamer und wird mächtiger, da er die dunkle Seite der Macht besser beherrscht und Methoden nutzt, um seine körperliche Schwäche zu verbergen.

💡Dunkle Seite

Die dunkle Seite der Macht ist eine korrumpierende Kraft in der Star Wars-Welt. Während sie den Anwendern schnelle Macht gewährt, nimmt sie im Laufe der Zeit ihre Vitalität und Energie. Dieser Verfall wird als dunkle Seiten-Degeneration beschrieben, wie es bei Dooku im Video der Fall ist.

💡Dunkle Seiten-Degeneration

Die dunkle Seiten-Degeneration bezieht sich auf den körperlichen Verfall, den Anwender der dunklen Seite erleben, während sie mehr Macht ansammeln. Dooku erlebte dies, als er älter wurde und seine Macht abnahm, während Sidious gelernt hatte, diese Effekte zu umgehen.

💡Jedi

Die Jedi sind die Beschützer der hellen Seite der Macht und stehen in direktem Gegensatz zu den Sith. Dooku begann seine Reise als Jedi-Meister, bevor er zur dunklen Seite wechselte, was bedeutete, dass er viele Jahre als Jedi-Lichtseite-Nutzer lebte, bevor er Sith wurde.

💡Klonekriege

Die Klonkriege sind ein entscheidendes Ereignis in der Star Wars-Saga und der Hintergrund für viele der Ereignisse im Video. Während der Klonkriege kämpfte Dooku für die Separatisten, doch der Stress dieser Kriege trug zu seiner Schwächung bei.

💡Macht

Die Macht ist eine allgegenwärtige Energie, die sowohl von den Jedi als auch von den Sith genutzt wird. In der dunklen Seite der Macht finden Sith wie Dooku und Sidious schnellen Zugang zu Macht, zahlen jedoch oft einen hohen Preis in Form von körperlichem und geistigem Verfall.

💡Palpatines körperliche Schwäche

Obwohl Palpatine älter und schwächer wird, kann er seine körperlichen Schwächen durch die Anwendung der dunklen Seite überwinden, indem er sich quasi als Marionette seiner eigenen Macht kontrolliert. Dies steht im Gegensatz zu Dooku, der physische Stärke bevorzugt und daher schneller altert.

💡Essenz-Transfer

Essenz-Transfer ist eine Sith-Technik, die es einem Sith-Lord ermöglicht, seinen Geist in einen neuen Körper zu übertragen, um dem Tod zu entkommen. Palpatine plante, diese Technik anzuwenden, um seine Macht über den Tod hinaus zu bewahren, während Dooku nicht genug Zeit hatte, diese Technik zu erlernen.

💡Sith-Holocron

Ein Holocron ist ein Gerät, das das Wissen der Sith oder Jedi speichert. Im Video wird erwähnt, dass Dooku besessen davon war, Sith-Wissen zu sammeln, um vielleicht seine eigene Verfallskurve zu verhindern. Er suchte das Holocron von Darth Andeddu, das Wissen über ewiges Leben enthielt.

Highlights

Dooku's rise to power as Tyrannis at the Battle of Geonosis stunned both Obi-Wan and Yoda, marking him as one of the most powerful beings they had ever encountered.

The dark side rapidly elevated Dooku's skills, but he unknowingly peaked early in his dark side journey.

Dark side degradation is explained as the toll the dark side takes on its users, burning them out and aging them prematurely.

Mace Windu described the dark side as a torch that burns bright but fades quickly, taking a toll on the vitality of its wielders.

Palpatine, despite aging, seemed to grow stronger over time due to his mastery of dark side techniques, keeping his body moving through sheer willpower.

Dooku's limited time as a dark side user meant he couldn't fully master the secrets to overcome its physical toll.

Dooku, at 83 years old, had already been weakened by the time of his final battle with Anakin, with his age and dark side degradation accelerating his decline.

Palpatine used force-enhanced movements to maintain agility and strength, relying on dark side powers to operate his body like a puppet.

Palpatine's training since his twenties gave him far more experience with dark side powers compared to Dooku, who started much later in life.

Palpatine withheld many dark side secrets from Dooku, fearing his apprentice's potential to become a rival.

Dooku became obsessed with Sith teachings, particularly seeking the holocron of Darth Andeddu, hoping to prevent his decline.

Dooku heavily relied on his physical prowess in combat, unlike Palpatine who emphasized force powers, causing Dooku to deplete his energy reserves faster.

Palpatine’s power reservoir was described as an eternal storm, while Dooku’s was more like a thunderstorm—powerful, but with limits.

Palpatine intentionally prepared for essence transfer to preserve his consciousness, a technique Dooku may have also sought.

The 'what if' scenario: If Dooku had embraced the dark side earlier in life, he might have rivaled Palpatine's power, suggesting Dooku's untapped potential.

Transcripts

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there is a question revolving around the

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Sith Lord tyrannis and cidus that has

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plagued the minds of many fans for years

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now how was it that Dooku would weaken

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in his old age while cidus only grew

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stronger with time well welcome back

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Disciples of the force we hear the

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archives have been expecting you when

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Dooku revealed himself as tyrannis in

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the Battle of Geonosis he comes out

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swinging as one of the most powerful

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beings Obi-Wan and Yoda had ever

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encountered in all truth he's one of the

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most powerful beings in the entire

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Galaxy even Grandmaster Yoda was

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astonished at the power of his former

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student and just how drastically the

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dark side had elevated his skills in the

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force Dooku had truly evolved into

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something else entirely after joining

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the Sith and as the Clone Wars raged on

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Dooku would only learn to embrace this

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new darker aspect of his power however

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what he hadn't been expecting was that

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he had already seen his peak in the dark

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side before he could ever truly Relish

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in it and by the time this peak was over

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his power had drastically atrophied

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while still a formidable fighter capable

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of taking down any normal Jedi Dooku was

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nowhere near the PowerHouse that he

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should have been and was unable to

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handle his Rising power and the threat

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of Anakin Skywalker this is the stark

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contrast to Palpatine though who seems

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to only grow stronger even when he

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passes Dooku and age at the time of

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Revenge of the Sith so why is this it's

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once again time to open a holocron and

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find the answer for ourselves some time

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ago we did actually talk briefly about

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why Dooku was getting weaker and that

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information is very important in finding

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the truth in today's topic when speaking

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of the dark side the first thing many

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think about is its raw immediate power

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it is quick and easy it is a quick

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solution to one's problems one which

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gives you all the power that you could

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need and want nearly instantaneously

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however George Lucas also described this

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as being more like heroin or steroids

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the more you get the more you want but

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the more you have the more that it takes

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from you Lucas describe the dark side

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feeling like a drug a hit of endorphins

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the price of the dark side is one's very

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life as it begins to siphon the strength

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from your body this is commonly referred

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to as dark side degradation in the lore

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and in the words of Mace Windu the dark

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side is a torch which burns bright but

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Burns quickly as well while the dark

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side rejuvenates its servants in their

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older age and keeps them moving the dark

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side takes from its wielers and leaves

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them wrinkled husks it will take your

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youth your beauty and most importantly

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Your vitality a Darksider Prime when

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they are in this era they are nearly

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Unstoppable but the further they delve

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and the more their thirst for power

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increases their very lives are exchanged

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in the process even the great Sith

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recognize and note this as a short

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coming of the dark side and yet they do

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not care as Darth pleus would write the

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dark side is a sickness no true Sith

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would ever wish to be cured of by the

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time of Revenge of the Sith Dooku was

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the age of an 83-year-old standard man

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ale Dooku had lived much of his life as

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a Jedi and then spent the last few years

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learning at the dark side but Dooku's

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time as a Jedi is very important Dooku

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gained a lot of Vitality from the light

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side of the force this made him sharp

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powerful wise and long lived but all of

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that was stripped away from him the

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moment he began to use the dark side and

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he drastically slowed down after the

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Boost in power the storm of the dark

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side granted Dooku immediate power but

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it demanded too much from him in the

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short time in Revenge of the Sith and in

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the novel right before his Final Duel

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with Anakin and Obi-Wan Dooku expresses

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how tired he feels how much he cannot

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wait for the Clone Wars to be over the

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stress of managing the entire separatist

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party and his life as Cy's Apprentice

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had taken a great toll on his body and

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the dark side had taken even more during

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this duel his age was catching up with

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him and the dark side degradation only

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sped up this process Dooku was an older

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man but the dark side was literally

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making him sick in iconic writings from

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the Revenge of the Sith novel it states

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the each crashing blow of Anakin

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Skywalker's lightsaber ages Dooku a

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decade but what about Darth cidus it's

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important to remember that cyas suffered

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the same Dark Side degradation in his

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older age the black cane that he has

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seen carrying around with is just for

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show for a certain point or at least it

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started that way while now actively

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augmenting his body and when Palpatine

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is not using Force Valor cidus is in

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truth a decrepit old man that very much

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needs his Cane in the novel dark Lords

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of the Sith cyas actually attempts to

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run without using the force in order to

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see how gifted physically he still is it

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says that Palpatine was actually

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surprised that he was still capable of

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running whatsoever and it is made clear

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that he is aware of how much the dark

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side has taken from him and had no idea

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if he could even so much as use his legs

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without the Force's help when Palpatine

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uses the force physically he is

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essentially puppeteering himself using

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it we see pleus do this exact same thing

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during a sparring session where pleus

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allows his body to become like a

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marionette with the puppet strings being

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the force cyas can essentially step

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outside of himself in a meditative State

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using the dark side to move his body on

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sheer willpower alone this adds a lot of

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context to the way that Palpatine fights

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making it even more disturbing so now

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this begs the question why couldn't

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Dooku do the same thing the difference

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between these two men comes down to

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simple experience tyrannis had only been

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training in the dark side for around a

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decade before the start of the Clone War

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but he had been a man of 70 by this time

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a man of 70 when he began his journey on

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the dark side he was older than

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Palpatine and had a lifetime of Jedi

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teachings behind him perhaps had Dooku

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joined the dark side in the Sith earlier

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maybe say in his 40s or 50s this

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wouldn't have been a problem whatsoever

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10 years is only enough time for a Sith

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to get a high off of the dark side

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rather than refining it and aging that

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power creating more of a fine wine

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overcoming the weaknesses of the dark

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side is a skill that one must learn the

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first 10 years is like a drunk binge and

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then a terrible hangover that will

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threaten to destroy you only mature Sith

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Lords know how to bypass the

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shortcomings of decaying mortal flesh as

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contrast cyas was an acolyte of the dark

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side since his 20s it's not hard to see

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that Palpatine had far more knowledge of

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the dark side knowledge that he

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purposefully hoarded for himself there

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were ways that the Sith Lords of old

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used to keep their body strong and

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powerful and it's more than probable

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that cyas knew these secrets and refused

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to share them with Dooku in the ls made

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very clear that Dooku grew much more

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powerful than cyas anticipated cyas

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never intended for Dooku to be a

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permanent apprentice and his powers in

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the dark side shocked him especially

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after Dooku contended with Yoda because

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of this it is our personal theory that

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he withheld Dark Side secrets from his

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student fearful of what a fully

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enlightened Dooku was capable of what's

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really interesting though is that

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tyrannis became obsessed with Sith

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teachings during the Clone War and Dooku

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even started his own Personal holocron

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Collection Dooku saw after the holocron

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of Darth and deu specifically and upon

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retrieving it there was a possibility

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that Dooku was aware of his Dark Side

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degradation and his actively weaking

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form making efforts to prevent this

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downfall since his power was regressing

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with age he knew he had to do something

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quickly before he became all but useless

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Dooku was on a clock and we believe that

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he knew it but now we have to look at

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their mindsets and the way they fight

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and operate Dooku has always valued his

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physicality more than than cidus did as

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a Jedi he was taught to care for himself

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he kept his body in shape as well as his

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room meticulously clean Dooku was a

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perfectionist all the way around

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especially with his weapon being a

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duelist was Dooku's claim to fame it was

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his greatest pride and joy of his entire

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life that being said he relied too

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heavily on his body's natural strength

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rather than augmenting and use of the

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force as time went on again in the novel

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for avenge of the Sith Dooku spent

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lavishly on his Force reserves just to

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saave off Anakin's brutal attacks

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indicating that up until this point that

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he had not been doing this and was

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operating off of physical skill alone it

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was because of his limited years of

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experience with the dark side that the

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well of power that he had in reserve was

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much more diminished than it would have

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ever been for Palpatine Darth cidus only

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ever thought of lightsaber combat as a

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way to humiliate an enemy not actually

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defeat them all of cidus his focus and

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energy went into his Force powers and he

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did everything he could to find just how

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much of a power reserve of energy he had

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at his disposal described as an eternal

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storm raging within Palpatine we

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believed that Palpatine did this and

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Dooku did not cidus is inner Darkness

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was akin to a hurricane that the dark

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lord would release on a tight controlled

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burst of energy or with overwhelming

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Fury this ju opposes Dooku's internal

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darkness which is more of a thunderstorm

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by contrast when you look at it this way

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you understand how one Sith Lord may be

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able to keep his is old broken decaying

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body moving like it was in their Prime

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while the other has to budget and

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bargain on how much energy they spend on

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physicality alone Dooku is weaker as the

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engagement goes on where cidus remains

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terrifyingly strong this is a very long

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way of saying that cyas was just more

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powerful and more experienced but it's

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good to know the details on how the dark

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side functions and how cyas functions

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the power gap between Dooku and cyas was

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wide but was quickly closing Dooku's

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potential was massive more massive than

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Palpatine had initially bargained for

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himself and Dooku was growing into a

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dangerous rival but cidus knew that

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Dooku's age would always be the downfall

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of him as he told Grievous when he spoke

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about the Count's death soon I will have

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an apprentice one far younger and more

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powerful it was Anakin's youth that was

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one of his most attractive features

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Palpatine knew Dooku was old and he knew

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he was weakening and where Palpatine had

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learned to hold his body together by

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using the dark side of the force

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hearkening back to entities such as

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Darth nylas Darth Sion and Darth viette

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Dooku was not a member of the Sith order

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long enough to be privy to these secrets

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quite intentionally so all the while

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Palpatine Was preparing for Essence

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transfer a ritual to send his

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Consciousness into a younger body

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however they struggled to hold his

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massive amounts of power this was

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something that we also believe Dooku was

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going to attempt one day which is why he

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saw after the holocron of Darth and deu

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specifically a Sith who had seemingly

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mastered eternal life Dooku knew that he

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was on a clock and Palpatine knew he was

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on a clock as well but all of this

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raises an interesting what if scenario

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what would the Galaxy look like if Dooku

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was trained much younger in the Sith

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arts and practices what if he had become

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more acquainted and accustomed with the

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gifts of the dark side I believe that

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there is a terrifying proposition out

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there one that suggests that the power

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of Dooku and the powers of the dark side

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that he commands were barely at the the

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surface level that perhaps if Darth

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tyrannis had had as much time as Darth

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cyas that he would have become a true

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great rival but that my friends is a

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story for another day as always my

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fellow students of the force thank you

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so much for your time and for joining

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our archives today and May the force be

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with you

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