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Summary
TLDRIn the transcript, Jozep Borrell discusses the Moscow terror attack, condemning it in the strongest terms and emphasizing the need for support and cooperation. He addresses concerns about Russia's actions towards Ukraine and the importance of bipartisan support for Ukraine from the US and Europe. Borrell also highlights the EU's efforts to strengthen defense capacities and the need for a European pillar within NATO. Additionally, he calls for a political solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict, stressing the importance of ceasefire, humanitarian aid, and the pursuit of peaceful coexistence.
Takeaways
- 🌍 The interviewee strongly condemns the terrorist attack in Moscow, emphasizing the tragic loss of innocent lives.
- 🤔 There is no concrete information about the perpetrators, but the interviewee suggests that linking Ukraine to the attack is not logical, as Ukrainians are fighting against an invading army, not Russian civilians.
- 📹 ISIS has claimed responsibility for the crime, and bodycam footage has been released as evidence.
- 🕵️♂️ Despite differences with Russia over Ukraine, the EU and Russia still cooperate on intelligence matters.
- 📈 Putin's public blaming of Ukraine is seen as a potential pretext to justify increased attacks on Ukraine.
- 🚨 The interviewee expresses concern about the suffering of Ukrainian and Russian people due to the conflict and the destruction of civilian infrastructure.
- 🔄 The EU is striving to support Ukraine with various forms of assistance, including urging the US to approve military aid.
- 🇪🇺 There is a consensus within the EU on the need to increase defense capacities, but not necessarily by creating a singular European army.
- 🔢 The EU is working towards closer cooperation between national armies and a stronger defense industry, aiming to build an effective European pillar within NATO.
- 🕊️ The EU is calling for unimpeded access to Gaza, an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, and increased humanitarian support to address the moral outrage of starvation as a weapon of war.
- 🏡 The long-term solution for the Israel-Palestine conflict involves finding a way for the two peoples to live side-by-side in peace and common security.
Q & A
What is Representative Burrell's immediate reaction to the terror attack in Moscow?
-Representative Burrell condemns the terror attack in the strongest possible terms, expressing deep sorrow over the tragic loss of innocent lives and emphasizing the senselessness of such violence.
Does Representative Burrell believe that linking Ukraine to the terrorist attack makes sense?
-No, Burrell does not see any logical connection between Ukrainians and the terrorist attack. He clarifies that Ukrainians are fighting against an invading army, not Russian civilians, and thus it does not make sense to associate them with the attack.
What evidence has been released regarding the Moscow terror attack?
-ISIS has claimed responsibility for the crime and released bodycam footage related to the attack.
Does the EU have intelligence cooperation with Russia despite differences over Ukraine?
-Yes, according to Representative Burrell, there is ongoing intelligence cooperation between the EU and Russia.
What concerns does Burrell express about Putin's response to the terror attack?
-Burrell is concerned that Putin may exploit the tragedy to justify increased attacks on Ukraine, emphasizing the importance of not allowing this to happen.
What is the current situation regarding the support of Ukraine by the United States and Europe?
-There is bipartisan support for Ukraine in the United States, but there is uncertainty about whether this will result in a vote to unblock military aid. Europe is doing its utmost to support Ukraine and has provided various forms of assistance, but there is a concern about the lack of weapons due to insufficient support from the United States and Europe.
What does Burrell say about the importance of supporting Ukraine?
-Burrell stresses that supporting Ukraine is not just a matter of generosity but is in the strategic interest of the US and Europe. He mentions the consequences of giving Russia a free pass, citing the situations in Crimea and Syria as examples.
What is the EU's stance on strengthening its defense industry and military capacities?
-The EU aims to increase its defense capacities both on the industrial and military sides. They are working towards closer cooperation between national armies and creating a stronger defense industry within Europe, although they are not looking to form a single European army.
What is the European Union's position on the situation in Gaza?
-The European Union calls for unrestricted access to Gaza, increased humanitarian aid, an immediate humanitarian ceasefire, the release of hostages, and the avoidance of regional escalation. They also emphasize the need for a political solution that allows for peaceful coexistence and common security.
How does the EU propose to address the ongoing conflict between Israel and Palestine?
-The EU advocates for a political solution that enables both Israeli and Palestinian people to live side-by-side in peace and security, recognizing that a military solution is not viable for the long-standing conflict.
What is the importance of the EU's efforts to increase military capacities and cooperation?
-The increased military capacities and cooperation are important for the EU to be a reliable security provider and partner to its allies. It also aims to ensure that Europe is prepared for the challenging global landscape and to protect its interests effectively.
Outlines
🌍 Reaction to Moscow Terror Attack and International Relations
Josep Borrell discusses the tragic Moscow terror attack, condemning it in the strongest terms. He emphasizes that innocent civilians were targeted and stresses the importance of not linking Ukraine to the attack, as Ukrainians are fighting against an invading army, not Russian civilians. Borrell also addresses the EU's intelligence cooperation with Russia, despite political differences over Ukraine. He expresses concern that Putin may use the tragedy to justify increased attacks on Ukraine. The conversation touches on the need for the US and Europe to support Ukraine, not just out of generosity but also due to vested interests in preventing a Russian victory. Borrell calls for increased defense capabilities and a stronger European defense industry, emphasizing the importance of a united European front within NATO.
🤝 Strengthening European Defense and Addressing the Israel-Gaza Conflict
The discussion shifts to the need for a stronger European defense, with a focus on enhancing cooperation between national armies and developing a more robust defense industry within Europe. Borrell clarifies that this does not mean creating a singular European army but rather improving operational readiness and increasing military capacities. The conversation also covers the ongoing war between Israel and Hamas, with Borrell expressing moral outrage at the situation and the need for the EU to take action. He outlines the European Union's call for unimpeded access to Gaza, increased humanitarian aid, an immediate ceasefire, and the release of hostages to prevent further regional escalation. Borrell stresses the importance of a political solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict, advocating for a future where both peoples can live side by side in peace and security.
🕊️ Pursuing Peace and Humanitarian Aid in the Israel-Gaza Crisis
The final paragraph focuses on the urgent need for a ceasefire and increased humanitarian support in the Israel-Gaza conflict. It emphasizes the importance of freeing hostages and pursuing a political solution based on coexistence and mutual security for both Israelis and Palestinians. The paragraph underscores the EU's commitment to facilitating peace and ensuring that the hostilities do not spill over into neighboring regions.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Terror Attack
💡Intelligence Cooperation
💡Ukraine
💡Military Aid
💡Defense Industry
💡NATO
💡Humanitarian Aid
💡Ceasefire
💡Political Solution
💡Regional Escalation
Highlights
Josep Borrell condemns the terror attack in Moscow that killed 137 people, stating a terrorist attack against civilians must be condemned wherever it happens.
Borrell dismisses the idea of linking Ukraine to the Moscow terror attack, emphasizing that Ukrainians are fighting against an invading army, not the Russian people.
ISIS claims responsibility for the Moscow attack, contradicting speculations linking Ukraine to the incident.
The EU has intelligence cooperation with Russia, despite major differences over Ukraine.
Putin is feared to use the Moscow terror attack as justification for increasing attacks on Ukraine.
Borrell argues the importance of the US and Europe continuing support for Ukraine, warning against giving Russia a 'free pass' and the implications for global security.
The EU is making efforts to support Ukraine with military aid and expects the US to approve the necessary budget for continued support.
Borrell discusses Europe's need to protect itself by focusing on its own defense industry and closer cooperation between national armies, not creating a European army.
There's a strong European consensus on increasing defense capacities and the development of a rapid deployment force.
Borrell accuses Israel of using starvation as a weapon in the conflict with Hamas, calling for urgent humanitarian support and access to Gaza.
The EU calls for an immediate humanitarian ceasefire in Gaza, opposing combat to allow aid entry and to stop the fighting.
Borrell emphasizes the need for a political solution to the Israel-Palestine conflict, stating military action is not a viable solution and advocating for a two-state solution.
The EU's stance on the Gaza situation includes asking for uninterrupted access to Gaza for humanitarian aid and the start of discussions for a political solution.
Borrell highlights the importance of freeing hostages and avoiding regional escalation of the conflict into Lebanon and the Red Sea.
A ceasefire, humanitarian support increase, and a political solution based on a two-state vision are seen as crucial steps toward resolving the Israel-Palestine conflict.
Transcripts
JOSEP BORRELL, JOIN ME FROM
BRUSSELS TO DISCUSS ALL THESE
CHALLENGES AHEAD.
>> HI
>> REPRESENTATIVE BURRELL,
WELCOME BACK TO OUR PROGRAM.
>> THANK YOU.
>> WHAT IS YOUR IMMEDIATE
REACTION TO THE TERROR ATTACK
IN MOSCOW THAT SO FAR 137
PEOPLE HAVE BEEN KILLED AND
THERE MAY BE MORE WHO DO YOU
THINK DID IT?
>> IT'S A REALLY AWFUL AND WE
CONDEMN IN THE STRONGEST
POSSIBLE TERMS, A TERRORIST
ATTACK AGAINST CIVILIANS HAS TO
BE CONDEMN WHATEVER IT HAPPENS
AND THIS HAS BEEN REALLY,
REALLY TRAGIC. SO MANY PEOPLE,
INNOCENT PEOPLE BEING KILLED BY
THIS CRAZY PEOPLE I DON'T HAVE
A CONCRETE INFORMATION. I ONLY
KNOW WHAT HAS BEEN PUBLISHED
BUT I DON'T THINK THAT LINKING
UKRAINE TO THIS TERRORIST
ATTACK MAKES SENSE UKRAINIANS
ARE NOT FIGHTING AGAINST THE
RUSSIAN PEOPLE YEAH, FIGHTING
WITH, AGAINST AN ARMY WHO HAS
INVADE THEM. I DON'T SEE THAT
>> THEY CAN BE LINKED OR
>> UKRAINIANS, ISIS HAS BEEN
ASKING FOR RESPONSIBILITY FOR
THIS CRIME.
>> AND THEY'VE RELEASED BODYCAM
VIDEO AS WELL. DOES THE EU
DESPITE THE MAJOR DIFFERENCES
WITH RUSSIA? OVER UKRAINE, DO
YOU HAVE INTELLIGENCE
COOPERATION WITH RUSSIA?
>> THE INTELLIGENCE PEOPLE
COOPERATE WITH INTELLIGENCE
PEOPLE? YES.
>> OKAY
>> NOW,
>> WHY DO YOU THINK PUTIN WOULD
BE PUBLICLY BLAMING UKRAINE?
>> WELL WE CERTAINLY AFRAID AND
CONCERNS BY THE FACT THAT PUTIN
MAY TAKE MAY USE THIS TRAGIC
PSEUDOCODE STANCES. IN ORDER TO
JUSTIFY INCREASING ATTACKS AND
AN UKRAINE'S AND IN FACT, IT
HAS HAPPENED ON THE LAST HOURS.
THE NUMBER OF RECORDS AND THE
NUMBER OF DRONES AND LAUNCH
AGAINST CIVILIAN INFRASTRUCTURE
HAS IN GREECE HAS DESTROYED DID
IT FINISH IT? THE SYSTEM IN
SOME CITIES. BUT ONCE AGAIN, WE
DON'T SEE ANY JUST ETHICAL LNG
TO WIN THIS TRAGEDY. AND
UKRAINIAN TWO GRANGER'S ARE NOT
FIGHTING AGAINST RUSSIAN
PEOPLE. THEY FIGHT AGAINST AN
ARMY WHO INVADED THEM MAYBE
PUTTING MAY WANT TO TAKE
ADVANTAGE OF THAT BUT THE
IMPORTANT THING IS THE
SOFTENING OF THE UKRAINIANS
PEOPLE. THE SOFTENING BECAUSE
UKRAINIANS AND THE RUSSIAN
PEOPLE, AND PARTICULAR THE ONES
WHO SUFFER AT THIS TERRORIST
ATTACK
>> BACK TO UKRAINE. THE
SUFFERING THERE AND THE
UNCERTAINTY ON THE BATTLEFIELD
BECAUSE OF THE LACK OF WEAPONS
FROM THE UNITED STATES AND TO
AN EXTENT FROM EUROPE AS WELL.
YOU HAVE JUST COME A RECENTLY
FROM THE UNITED STATES IN WHICH
YOU SAID THAT YOU CAME AWAY
WITH A CONTINUED PICTURE OF
BIPARTISAN SUPPORT FOR UKRAINE,
BUT STILL UNCERTAINTY AS TO
WHETHER THIS WILL RESULT IN A
VOTE TO UNBLOCK THAT MILITARY
AID I MEAN, HAVE YOU GOT
ANYTHING YOU CAN SAY ABOUT THAT
AND WHETHER EUROPE CAN FILL THE
GAP IN AMMUNITION AND WEAPONS
>> WE ARE DOING OUR GREATEST
EFFORT TO KNOW THAT TO SUPPORT
UKRAINE MORE AND QUICKER WE
HAVE PROVIDED, WE ARE THE MOST
IMPORTANT SUPPORT OF UKRAINE
NEAR YOU ADD UP ALL KINDS OF
SUPPORT. AND WE WERE SAYING,
AND WE EXPECT THEM, WE ASK THE
US TO APPROVE THESE TWO
PARLIAMENTARY BUDGET IN ORDER
TO CONTINUE PROVIDING SUPPORT
TO GRAY, YOU KNOW, THE US HAS A
VESTED INTEREST IN SUPPORTING
UKRAINE. OTHERWISE, IT WILL BE
GIVEN A FREE PASS TO RUSSIA AND
WE KNOW WHAT HAPPENS, THEN. WE
KNOW THAT IF WE GIVE A FREE
PASS TO RUSSIA, REMEMBER
CRIMEA, REMEMBER SYRIA
>> IF YOU DON'T SHOW
>> COMMITMENT AND STRENGTH AND
REAL, WE'LL TO SUPPORT
UKRAINE. WE CANNOT AFFORD
RUSSIA. WIND IS WAR, OTHERWISE
THE US AND EUROPEAN INTERESTS
WILL REVERSE THE DAMAGE IS NOT
A MATTER OF GENEROSITY ALONE,
IS NOT A MATTER OR SUPPORTING
UKRAINE BECAUSE WE LOVE
UKRAINIAN PEOPLE IT ISN'T OUR
OWN INTERESTS AND IS ALSO IN
THE INTEREST OF DUS AS A GLOBAL
PLAYER. SO I'M ONE WHO HAS TO
BE PERCEIVED AS RELIABLE
PARTNER, A SECURITY PROVIDER TO
THE ALLIES BUT WHAT WE'VE
CALLED THE US TO OPEN AND TO
APPROVE THE SUPPLEMENTARY
BUDGET.
>> YES, I UNDERSTAND THAT. WHAT
ABOUT EUROPE'S NEED TO PROTECT
ITSELF THERE'S A LOT OF
DISCUSSION GOING ON ABOUT
FOCUSING ON YOUR OWN DEFENSE
INDUSTRY. AND IN A JOINT OP-ED
WITH A SENIOR EUROPEAN IN
COMMISSIONER, YOU SAY, WE'RE
NOT TALKING ABOUT CREATING A
EUROPEAN ARMY. WHAT WE NEED AND
WHAT WE WANT TO ACHIEVE AND
COMING YEARS IS A CLOSER
COOPERATION BETWEEN OUR
NATIONAL ARMIES AND A STRONGER
DEFENSE INDUSTRY IN EUROPE, IT
WILL HELP ALSO BUILD AN
EFFECTIVE EUROPEAN PILLAR IN
NATO IS THERE A EUROPEAN
CONSENSUS ON THAT?
>> I THINK SO. I
>> STRONG
>> CONSENSUS ON THE NEED TO
INCREASE OUR DEFENSE CAPACITIES
BOTH ON THE INDUSTRIAL SIDE, ON
THE MILITARY CAPACITIES AS YOU
SAID, AS WE SAID, IS NOT A
QUESTION OF CREATING VR IN
SINGULAR EUROPEAN ARMY. WE HAVE
27 MEMBER STATES, ALL OF THEM
SOVEREIGN DEFENSE. IT'S THEIR
CAPACITY. THEY ARE COMPETENCE
AND THEY HAVE THEIR OWN ARMIES.
BUT THIS HARM IS, HAS TO BE
MORE INTO OPERATION THEN ALL
THEY HAD TO BE MORE READY TO
WORK TOGETHER THAT WOULD WE
PLANNING TO CREATE A RAPID
DEPLOYMENT FORCE? THEY HAVE TO
CONSIDER TO CREATE EUROPEAN
PILLAR INSIDE NATO. DEAL
APPEARS HAVE TO TAKE MORE
RESPONSIBILITY FOR OUR DEFENSE
SERTOLI STRONGER PARTNERSHIP
POSSIBLE WITH THE US INSIDE
NETO. BUT WE HAVE TO INCREASE
OUR MILITARY CAPACITIES
STARTING WITH THE INDUSTRY AND
ALSO WITH OUR ARMIES. BUT IT'S
A TOPICAL TO BELIEVE THAT WE
ARE GOING TO CANCEL THE 27 ARM
IS TO CREATE A SINGLE ONE WHAT
WE HAVE TO DO IS BE MORE
REALISTIC AND WHAT DO WE HAVE
TO WORK BETTER TOGETHER FILLING
GAPS, AVOIDING TO TRACE IT IS
SPENDING BETTER OUR MONEY WE
ARE SPENDING MORE, WE ARE
INCREASING OUR MILITARY IS
DEFENDED, EXPENDITURE. AND
BELIEVE ME, DUE TO APPEARANCE
HAD BEEN TAKING STOCK. THEY ARE
VERY MUCH AWARE ARE THEY
CHALLENGING WORLD IN WHICH WE
LIVE? AND WE HAD TO BE PREPARED
FOR THAT Ms BROWN MOVING ON TO
THE WAR BETWEEN ISRAEL AND
HAMAS YOU HAVE ACCUSED ISRAEL
OF USING STARVATION AS A WEAPON
OF WAR. THE UN SECRETARY
GENERAL SPOKE IN REFER THIS
WEEKEND, AND THIS IS WHAT HE
SAID
>> A LONG LINE OF BLOCK THE
RELIEF TRUCKS ON ONE SIDE OF
THE GAME IT'S THE LONG SHARE
NO OF STARVATION
>> ON THE OTHERS
>> THAT IS MORE THAN THRACE. IT
IS A MORAL OUTRAGE.
>> WHAT CAN THE EU DO IS TO
BURRELL, TO BREAK THIS DEADLOCK
AND TWO, AS THE SECRETARY
GENERAL SAYS ROLLBACK, THIS
MORAL OUTRAGE
>> LAST FRIDAY, ROUPIAN UNION
CONCH SHELL AGREED ON
CONCLUSIONS ABOUT THE SITUATION
IN GAZA, AND A CONCLUSION WHERE
VERY CLEAR WE ASKED FOR
UNINTENDED ACCESS TO GAS. WHERE
FOUR, INCREASE HUMANITARIAN
ENTRANCE INTO GAS BECAUSE THEY
ARE MYTHS NOT ENOUGH. THE
NUMBER OF DRAG IS MUCH LOWER
THAN BEFORE THE WALL AND AS
YOU'RE SECRETARY-GENERAL
WORDS, THERE ARE MORE THAN ONE
TRUCKS WAITING TO ENTER THE
BACKLOG OF THE NUMBER OF
PEOPLE, SOMETIMES WAITING FOR
DAYS AND DAYS. SO THE EUROPEAN
UNION CONSTANTLY WANT TO REPEAT
THEM AWARDING IN ONE HAND TO
REMIND THAT EVERYTHING HAS
STARTED WITH A TERRORIST ATTACK
BY HAMAS AGAINST INNOCENT
CIVILIANS ON THE ISRAELI SIDE.
AND WE UNDERSTAND THE SHOCK
UNDER THE THE FEELING OR THE
ISRAELIS BEING ATTACK. AND MANY
PEOPLE BEING KILLED, INNOCENT
CIVILIANS. THIS WAS ALSO A
TERRORIST ATTACK BUT ON THE
OTHER HAND EVERYBODY SAYS HE
NOODLE THAT THE NUMBER OF
CIVILIAN CASUALTIES IN GAZA IS
TOO HIGH EVERYBODY'S THAT
THERE IS A AND EVERYBODY SAYING
THAT THERE IS NOT ENOUGH
HUMANITARIAN AID AND TUNING
INTO GAZA SO MAKE A LOGICAL
RELATIONSHIP BETWEEN THE TWO
FACTS.
>> THE
>> ROUPIAN UNION COUNSEL ASKED
CLEARLY FOR UN-IMPLANTED ACCESS
TO GAZA INCREASE HUMANITARIAN
SUPPORT FOR IMMEDIATE
HUMANITARIAN CEASEFIRE, OPPOSE,
OPPOSING THE COMBATS IN ORDER
TO ALLOW THE ENTRY OF SUPPORT
TO STOP THE FIGHTING, TO FREE
THE HOSTAGES. THIS IS IMPORTANT
TO REMIND THAT THERE ARE
HOSTAGES TO BE FREE TO AVOID
REGIONAL ESCALATION. THE
SPILLOVER OF THE WAR INTO
LEBANON IN THE RED SEA. AND
THEN STARTED DISCUSSING ABOUT A
POLITICAL SOLUTION BECAUSE IT
IS NOT THE MILITARY SOLUTION TO
THE CONFLICT BETWEEN ISRAEL AND
PALESTINE. WHO LAST FOR MORE
THAN 75 YEARS. THE LESSON OR
WHAT'S HAPPENING IN GAZA THAT
ATTACK BY HAMAS AND IT IS
REALLY ANSWER IS THAT WE NEED
TO LOOK FOR A SOLUTION WHERE
THE TWO PEOPLE CAN LIVE
SIDE-BY-SIDE BECAUSE HE'S NOT
GOING TO BE POSITIVE FOR THEM
TO LIVE TOGETHER IN PEACE AND
COMMON SECURITY. SO CEASEFIRE
OR MONETARY AND POLLS LEADING
TO A CEASEFIRE FREE HOSTAGES,
INCREASE HUMANITARIAN SUPPORT
AND POLITICAL SOLUTION WHICH
CAN ONLY BE BASED ON A
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