Snipers at Maidan: The untold story of a massacre in Ukraine - Newsnight

BBC Newsnight
12 Feb 201516:23

Summary

TLDRThe script recounts the tense meeting between Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's president, Penko, amidst ongoing conflict in eastern Ukraine. It delves into the aftermath of the Maidan massacre, which led to Ukraine's government overthrow and Russia's annexation of Crimea. The investigation reveals new insights into the event, suggesting that not all violence originated from government forces, but also from within the protest movement itself. The report raises questions about the true nature of the conflict and the role of external forces, leaving viewers to ponder over the complexities of the situation.

Takeaways

  • 🤝 A brief handshake between Russian leader Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's president occurred amidst ongoing conflict.
  • 🔥 The fighting in eastern Ukraine continues despite peace talks, with the US considering arming government forces and Russia already arming separatists.
  • ❄️ The conflict has escalated to a point where it's being compared to the brink of a new Cold War.
  • 🗣️ The heart of the conflict is rooted in the events of February 20th, when a massacre of protesters in Kiev's Independence Square led to the overthrow of Ukraine's government.
  • 👮‍♂️ Over 50 people were killed in the massacre, with most being protesters shot by riot police.
  • 🏢 The investigation suggests that not all the shooting was from the security forces, with some coming from the protesters' side, specifically from the Conservatory building.
  • 🔍 There is confusion and controversy over the exact events that transpired, with some suggesting a plot to create chaos and others accusing external forces of orchestrating the violence.
  • 🚨 The official investigation has been hindered, with some claiming it's being blocked by the courts, leading to the flourishing of conspiracy theories.
  • 🤔 The identity and motives of the snipers remain unclear, with some suggesting they were targeting both the police and the protesters.
  • 🇺🇦 Despite the violence, Maidan was primarily composed of peaceful, unarmed citizens demanding change from their government.

Q & A

  • What was the significance of the handshake between Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's president?

    -The handshake was brief and frosty, symbolizing the tension between the two leaders during a time of conflict. It occurred amidst ongoing fighting in eastern Ukraine and negotiations for peace in Minsk.

  • What was the United States' stance on arming forces in Ukraine?

    -The United States was threatening to arm government forces in Ukraine, which was a point of contention as Russia was already arming separatists, escalating the conflict.

  • What event on February 20th is considered a pivotal moment in the Ukraine conflict?

    -The massacre

Outlines

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🤝 Tense Diplomacy Amidst Ongoing Conflict

This paragraph sets the scene for a tense diplomatic meeting between Russian leader Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's president, Penko, in Minsk. Despite the talks, the fighting in eastern Ukraine continues, with the United States threatening to arm government forces while Russia is already supporting the separatists. The situation is likened to the brink of a new Cold War. The narrative then shifts to a critical event on February 20th of the previous year, the massacre at Kiev's Independence Square (Maidan), which led to the overthrow of Ukraine's government. The paragraph introduces Gabriel Gate House, who was present during the Maidan massacre and returns to Kiev with new revelations about the events of that day. The report contains disturbing images and strong language, reflecting the gravity of the situation.

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🔍 Unraveling the Maidan Massacre

Paragraph 2 delves into the complexities of the Maidan massacre, where over 50 people were killed, leading to the fall of Ukraine's pro-Moscow president and subsequent geopolitical tensions. It explores the claims that riot police were responsible for the deaths, but also introduces the possibility of other forces at play. The narrative focuses on Andre Shevchenko, an opposition politician who received a call from a police commander about gunfire from the Conservatory building, which was under the control of protesters. The paragraph introduces 'Serge,' a protester who admits to being a sniper on the second floor of the Conservatory, firing at the police to provoke a retreat. His account suggests a more complex scenario than the official narrative, with potential implications for understanding the true events of that day.

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🏥 Chaos and Cover-up at Maidan

Paragraph 3 continues the investigation into the Maidan massacre, highlighting the chaotic aftermath and the search for the truth. It discusses the mysterious circumstances surrounding some of the deaths, including that of Vladimir Meluk, who was shot while unarmed and talking on the phone. The paragraph suggests that there were snipers from both sides, with intercepted communications indicating confusion among government forces. It raises questions about the official investigation, which has been criticized for focusing solely on the actions of riot police. The paragraph also touches on conspiracy theories suggesting that the shootings were a provocation by either Moscow or the CIA, though no credible evidence is provided. It emphasizes the challenges faced by those trying to uncover the truth, including obstruction by the courts.

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🔫 The Reluctant Protester Turned Sniper

In the final paragraph, the focus is on 'Serge,' the protester who became a sniper, and his personal journey and motivations. It discusses how he was prepared for violence by a retired military officer who recognized his potential. The paragraph explores the psychological manipulation and the preparation for potential conflict. It also addresses the broader implications of Serge's actions, suggesting that he may have been a pawn in a larger, more complex geopolitical game. The paragraph concludes with Serge's own reflections on his role, expressing no pride in his actions and struggling with the emotional aftermath, including sleeplessness and anxiety.

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Keywords

💡Frosty handshake

A 'frosty handshake' refers to a brief and cold interaction, often indicating a lack of warmth or friendliness between parties. In the context of the video, it describes the tense meeting between Russian leader Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's president, symbolizing the strained relationship between the two nations.

💡Minsk

Minsk is the capital of Belarus and is mentioned as the location where peace talks are taking place. It represents a significant geopolitical site where efforts are made to resolve conflicts, particularly those involving Ukraine and Russia.

💡Eastern Ukraine

Eastern Ukraine is a region that has been a focal point of conflict between Ukrainian government forces and Russian-backed separatists. The fighting in this area is emblematic of the broader tensions and violence that have arisen from the political upheaval in Ukraine.

💡Arming

In the video, 'arming' refers to the provision of weapons to military or paramilitary forces. The United States is threatening to arm Ukrainian government forces, while Russia is accused of arming separatists. This term highlights the escalating nature of the conflict and the involvement of foreign powers.

💡New Cold War

The 'New Cold War' is a term used to describe the current period of geopolitical tension between Russia and the West, reminiscent of the Cold War era. The video suggests that the conflict in Ukraine has pushed the world to the brink of such a scenario, indicating a significant deterioration in international relations.

💡Maidan

Maidan refers to the Independence Square in Kiev, Ukraine, where the massacre of protesters took place on February 20th, leading to the overthrow of the government. The term is central to the video's narrative as it marks a pivotal event that triggered a series of consequences, including Russia's annexation of Crimea.

💡Pro-Moscow

A 'pro-Moscow' government or politician is one that aligns with or supports the interests of Moscow. The video mentions the overthrow of Ukraine's pro-Moscow president, which signifies a shift in political power and a move away from Russian influence.

💡Separatist movement

A 'separatist movement' is a political movement that seeks to separate a region from the state of which it is a part. In the video, the separatist movement in Eastern Ukraine is a direct consequence of the political turmoil following the Maidan massacre, reflecting the region's desire for autonomy or alignment with Russia.

💡Standoff

A 'standoff' is a situation of deadlock or inaction, often between opposing parties. The video describes the confrontation between Russia and the West as the most dangerous standoff since the end of the Cold War, emphasizing the high stakes and potential for conflict.

💡Investigation

An 'investigation' in the context of the video refers to the efforts to uncover the truth behind the events of February 20th on Maidan. The term is significant as it highlights the search for accountability and the complexities involved in understanding the root causes of the violence.

💡Conspiracy theories

Conspiracy theories are explanations that suggest secret plots or manipulations behind events. The video mentions such theories surrounding the Maidan massacre, with some suggesting a Moscow-orchestrated provocation and others pointing to a CIA-inspired coup. These theories reflect the lack of clarity and the contentious nature of the conflict's origins.

Highlights

A frosty handshake between Russian leader Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's President Porochenko during peace talks in Minsk.

Ongoing fighting in eastern Ukraine despite peace negotiations, with the U.S. threatening to arm government forces and Russia already arming separatists.

The conflict is rooted in the February 20th massacre in Kyiv’s Independence Square (Maidan), which led to the overthrow of Ukraine's pro-Moscow government.

More than 50 people were killed during the Maidan protests, leading to the annexation of Crimea by Russia and the rise of separatist movements in eastern Ukraine.

The majority of victims on February 20th were protesters, but some were also police officers, complicating the narrative.

Reports suggest that shots were fired from a building controlled by protesters, raising questions about the origins of some of the gunfire.

One protester, referred to as 'Serge,' admits to firing at police from the conservatory building, where he was stationed on the second floor.

Serge explains that he was shooting at police from above, but claims he aimed at their feet, intending not to kill.

The Maidan leadership has always maintained that the security forces were responsible for the killings, but investigations suggest a more complex story.

A senior investigator claims that the Maidan massacre was a planned event, designed to cause maximum chaos and confusion.

The shooting at Maidan was not solely from government forces; evidence indicates that both sides may have been targeted by snipers.

The origin of some of the gunfire, including that which killed protesters and police officers, remains unclear.

Conspiracy theories flourish, with some Ukrainians believing the violence was orchestrated by Moscow to justify further intervention, while others blame the CIA.

Despite the complexity of the situation, Maidan was largely composed of peaceful protesters demanding an end to a corrupt government.

The psychological toll on those involved, including 'Serge,' has been significant, as he reflects on his actions with regret and nervousness.

Transcripts

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there was a brief if Frosty handshake

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today between the Russian leader

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Vladimir Putin and Ukraine's president

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penko even as they sat down to talk

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peace in Minsk the fighting continued in

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eastern Ukraine the United States is

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threatening to arm government forces the

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Russians already arming the separatists

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this conflict has pushed the world to

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the brink of a new Cold War but its

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heart lies one event on the 20th of

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February last year when a massacre of

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protesters on kev's Independence Square

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known as maidan led to the overthrow of

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Ukraine's government Gabriel Gate House

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who was there that day has been back to

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Kiev and has New Revelations about what

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really happened his report contains

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distressing images and strong

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language night has fallen maidan is

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divided police control one side of the

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square protesters the

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other this has been going on for months

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now but away from the burning barricades

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in the dark corners of the protest Camp

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some are preparing for a

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fight I understood that this could be

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the end of everything I knew that by

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going in there I might never come back

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Applause]

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more than 50 people were killed that day

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the massacre would bring down Ukraine's

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pro- Moscow president prompting Russia

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to Annex Crimea and sparking a

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separatist movement in the East most of

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the Dead were protesters gunned down by

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Riot police who were retreating from the

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square but not

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all I kept getting calls from the police

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officer who said I have three people

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wounded five people wounded I have one

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person dead and at some point he says

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I'm pulling

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[Music]

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out the question of what really happened

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that day goes to the heart of a

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confrontation that has led to the most

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dangerous standoff between Russia and

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the West since the end of the Cold War

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the protest leaders many of whom now

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hold positions of power in the new

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Ukraine have always maintained that full

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responsibility for the shootings lies

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with the security forces acting on

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behalf of the previous government our

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investigation suggest that is not the

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full

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picture only three people have been

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arrested over the killings all of the

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members of this police unit seen here

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firing towards the protesters but that

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was after 9:00 in the morning as the

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police retreated from the square what

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happened before that what prompted them

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to pull

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back earlier that morning Andre

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shevchenko then an opposition politician

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and part of the protest movement known

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as maidan had received a call from the

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police commander on the square

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he calls me and he says Andre someone is

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shooting at my guys and he said that uh

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the shooting was from the conservatory

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he said second floor it's fire it's

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firearms and uh please do something

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about that because it's getting really

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bad amid the chaos Mr shevchenko

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contacted the man in charge of security

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at the protest Camp he remembers the

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shots coming from somewhere different

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the location matters the hotel Ukraine

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was that morning largely under the

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control of govern government forces but

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the conservatory building several

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hundred meters away was firmly in the

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hands of the

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protesters just after 8:00 that morning

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a news photographer had managed to get

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into the building with his camera when I

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come inside uh I was saw the guys uh one

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come after me with just a hunter gun

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hunting rifle height rifle and uh I I

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saw the guy with a Kalashnikov and uh

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after that uh I come outside and uh saw

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the other guys who was also with guns

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some of them lying on the floor some of

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them hiding after uh behind the columns

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on the second floor

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and uh after that the guys were saw me I

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said go out go out on the morning of the

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20th there were persistent reports of

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gunfire coming from the conservatory

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building now for the first time one of

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those gunmen has spoken on camera he was

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part of the protest movement he said and

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agreed to talk to us on condition that

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we disguise his identity we will call

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him

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Serge it was the maidan security people

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who gathered us and asked if it comes to

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it who here can shoot and I said I can

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shoot so they said okay if there's no

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other way out then you will do this

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work that was on the 19th earlier that

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day s had been told to meet a man on the

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edge of the protest Camp who appeared

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carrying in a

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box he had brought a 12 caliber shotgun

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lots of ammunition and a SAA that's a

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rifle that fires High Velocity rounds

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similar to a standard

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Kalashnikov I took that weapon off him

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it had a sight attached I know how to

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use this gun because I served in the

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Army early in the morning of the 20th as

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the first shots rang out SE was escorted

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into the conservatory building and up

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onto the second floor

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balcony seay says that he took up a

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position behind one of these pillars

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here and he mentions being able to see

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that clock over there on the far side of

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the square on the bank and the edge of

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the shopping center which was the part

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of the square that was controlled by the

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riot police so from here he had a bird's

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eyee view right over the front line I

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was shooting downwards at their feet of

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course I could have hit them in the arm

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or anywhere but I didn't shoot to

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I also shot Upward at the police who

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were on the top of the Globus shopping

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center and that is why they

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retreated the maidan commander told us

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he sent his men to search the

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conservatory building as soon as he got

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the phone

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call but s tells a different story he

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says he and another gunman was shooting

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for about 20 minutes when some men came

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and dragged them

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away I was just reloading they ran up to

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me and one put his foot on top of me and

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said they want a word with you

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everything is okay but stop doing what

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you're

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doing Ser says he was driven to the

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outskirts of the city and left to make

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his own way home by that time three

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policemen were dead and the massacre of

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protesters had begun

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by evening maidan has shifted from

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battle mode into morning dazed and

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exhausted the protesters are beginning

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to absorb the scale of their loss some

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have seen their comrades gunned down in

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front of their eyes by Security Forces

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but others were killed in more

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mysterious circumstances and it isn't

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over

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yet as the sun set a group of men and

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women are clearing up

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everything seems calm and

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suddenly a single shot rings out a Man

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Lies fatally wounded on the

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[Music]

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ground the man's name was Vladimir meluk

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he was unarmed talking to his mother on

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the phone his wife was standing next to

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him

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earlier that morning we too had seen

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someone firing out of the upper floors

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of the hotel

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Ukraine uh that that that

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window yeah facing directly to us yeah

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[ __ ] okay get the [ __ ] out of

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here that is coming straight out of that

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window one up there okay yeah our hotel

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that window which one um okay 1 2 3 4

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fifth row from the left second from the

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top one was

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open by this point the hotel lobby was

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being used as a makeshift hospital it

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was chaos no one controlled access

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anyone could have got

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in later that night Andre parab maidan

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security men were roaming the upper

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floors of the hotel knocking on doors

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including our own looking for a

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sniper there's no question that

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government Security Forces did have

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snipers positioned on t buildings

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overlooking maidan and the surrounding

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area but their intercepted radio

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communications suggest confusion at the

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very least or possibly that they were

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not

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alone it's unclear exactly where Mr

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meluk was shot from but the official

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investigation has focused on the shots

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fired by the riot police roughly 7 hours

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earlier

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more than a dozen other deaths are

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similarly unexplained and those who

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tried to widen their inquiries have

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found their efforts

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thwarted I've spoken to a senior

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investigator at the general prosecutor's

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office here who's convinced that whoever

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was firing from the hotel Ukraine was

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targeting both sides he's Gathering

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evidence that he says will prove that

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the massacre on maidan on the 20th of

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February was the culmination of a

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carefully worked out plot the the aim of

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which was to cause maximum chaos but he

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says his investigations are constantly

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being blocked by the

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court in the absence of a thorough and

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transparent investigation conspiracy

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theories flourish many ukrainians

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believe the shootings on the 20th were a

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provocation planned and orchestrated by

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mosow in order to justify the annexation

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of crime

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uh

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Russians counter that maidan was a CIA

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inspired coup neither side offers

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credible evidence for its

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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claims it is now clear that some of the

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shooting was coming from the protesters

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side but let there be no doubt maidan

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was overwhelmingly made up of peaceful

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unarmed citizens who braved months of

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Sub-Zero temperatures to demand a change

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to to their corrupt government from the

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very first day of maidan we told our

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people never ever use Force we knew that

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U our strength was not to use force and

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our weakness would be if we start uh

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shooting the leaders of maidan say they

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did their best to ensure that weapons

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were kept away from the square but SE

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suggests otherwise he says his gun was

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part of a stash of weapons kept

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overnight at the central post office a

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building under the protester's

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control sge who'd been demonstrating on

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Maan for more than a month claims he was

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recruited as a potential shooter back in

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January he would not identify the

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recruiter saying only that he was a

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retired military

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officer I went out for a smoke one night

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there were other people smoking too we

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got talking he saw something in me that

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he liked officers are like psychologists

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they can see who is capable please don't

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shut the two stayed in touch when SE

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wanted to join one of the more militant

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groups on maidan the ex officer told him

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to hold

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off your time will come he said he kept

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me under his wing I knew very well this

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wasn't going to end with Globs and

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Molotov cocktails I asked him whether he

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got the feeling that the officer was

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grooming him yes psychologically not

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that we sat down and worked out a plan

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but we talked about it privately and he

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prepared me for

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it there is much we still do not know we

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don't know who fired the first shot that

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day we don't know who was firing from

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the hotel Ukraine as for the conspiracy

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theories it's possible that s was

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manipulated Played Like a Porn in a much

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bigger game but that's not the way he

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sees it he was a simple protester he

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says who took up arms in

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self-defense I didn't want to shoot

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anyone or kill anyone but that was the

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situation I tell you I don't feel like

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some kind of hero they opposite I have

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trouble sleeping bad premonitions I'm

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trying to control myself but I just get

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nervous all the time I have nothing to

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be proud of it's easy to shoot leing

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afterwards that's the hard thing but you

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have to defend your

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country Gabriel Gate House reporting

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there from Ukraine

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