Tupac Shakur 1994 Exclusive Interview With Ed Gordon

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16 Jun 202022:59

Summary

TLDRThe transcript captures a powerful dialogue addressing the harsh realities of life in impoverished communities, where residents feel compelled to arm themselves for protection due to rampant crime and police presence. The speaker, a voice of his generation, echoes the forgotten struggle of the past and the need for unity. He candidly discusses the impact of growing up without a father figure and the role models he found in the streets. He also reflects on his own transformation, from a time when he didn't care about survival to a newfound desire to live and represent his community positively. The conversation delves into societal pressures, the portrayal of black men in media, and the responsibility he feels to be a role model, despite the challenges and misconceptions.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿ˜” The speaker feels they live in a war zone, with a constant need for protection due to the high crime rate in their community.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฎโ€โ™‚๏ธ There's a comparison made between the equipment used by the police and the need for residents to arm themselves for protection.
  • ๐Ÿ”ซ The speaker discusses the prevalence of guns and violence, emphasizing that it's a shared fear among both black and white communities.
  • ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ The importance of speaking out about the reality of living conditions is highlighted as a way to bring attention to societal issues.
  • ๐Ÿ‘ฅ The speaker expresses a desire to unite people and use their platform to communicate a message to a large audience.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฎ A transformation is mentioned, where the speaker no longer wants to be seen as someone who doesn't care about their life or reputation.
  • ๐Ÿ™ The speaker feels they are doing 'God's work' by being a voice for those in the community who are often overlooked.
  • ๐Ÿก There's a discussion about the impact of growing up without a father and the role models that filled that void.
  • ๐ŸŽ“ Education is brought up as a missed opportunity due to financial constraints, and the speaker reflects on how it might have changed their path.
  • ๐Ÿคฌ The speaker is angry and frustrated with societal norms and the treatment of black people, which fuels their drive to represent their community.

Q & A

  • What is the main challenge faced by the community described in the transcript?

    -The community faces a high level of violence and crime, with people feeling the need to arm themselves for protection, similar to how the police are armed with rifles, riot gear, and other equipment.

  • Why does the speaker feel that they are doing God's work?

    -The speaker feels they are doing God's work because they are advocating for the often overlooked and underprivileged youth in the ghetto, whom they believe are also God's children, and trying to bring attention and change to their plight.

  • What does the speaker suggest is the reason behind the police's need for heavy weaponry and protective gear?

    -The speaker implies that the police require heavy weaponry and protective gear because they are fighting against the same crime elements that the community members are, suggesting a high level of crime and danger in the area.

  • How does the speaker describe the living conditions in the projects?

    -The speaker describes the living conditions in the projects as extremely crowded and dangerous, with many people living in a single building, and a constant need for self-protection due to the proximity to criminal elements.

  • What does the speaker believe is the role of their generation in the fight for equality and justice?

    -The speaker believes that their generation is picking up the fight for equality and justice where the Black Panthers left off, advocating for change and recognition of the struggles faced by their community.

  • Why does the speaker feel the need to carry a weapon?

    -The speaker feels the need to carry a weapon for self-defense, citing personal experiences of being threatened and attacked, and the general dangerous environment they live in.

  • What does the speaker think about the portrayal of black men arming themselves in the media?

    -The speaker thinks that the media portrays black men arming themselves as illegal or criminal, rather than for self-defense, which they believe is their right and necessity given the circumstances.

  • How does the speaker view the criticism that rappers are being 'pimped' by the record industry for their portrayal of thug life?

    -The speaker disagrees with the idea that they are being 'pimped' and argues that everyone, including those in the record industry, are being 'pimps' in some way. They suggest that the portrayal of thug life is a reflection of reality and that it's the rappers who are influencing the culture, not the other way around.

  • What is the speaker's response to those who accuse them of promoting violence through their music?

    -The speaker defends their music as a reflection of their reality and argues that they are not promoting violence but rather bringing attention to the violence that already exists in their community.

  • Why does the speaker feel that they have to be careful about their image and how they are perceived?

    -The speaker feels they have to be careful about their image because it can prevent confrontations and because they want to be seen as a representative of their generation, not just as a 'tough' persona but also as someone with logic, compassion, and understanding.

Outlines

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๐Ÿ”ซ Survival and Struggle in War Zone

The speaker describes living in a war zone-like environment where carrying weapons is necessary for survival. They emphasize the shared fear of crime between black and white communities and the need for protection against the same criminal elements. The speaker also discusses the responsibility they feel to represent their generation, drawing parallels to the Black Panthers, and the importance of speaking out about the harsh realities of life in their community. They express a desire to live and be seen as more than just a criminal, reflecting on their past and the changes they've undergone, including a newfound sense of responsibility and a commitment to 'doing God's work' by advocating for those in similar situations.

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๐Ÿ‘จโ€๐Ÿ‘ฉโ€๐Ÿ‘งโ€๐Ÿ‘ฆ Family, Role Models, and Education

The speaker reflects on the absence of a father figure in their life and the impact it had on their upbringing, using their mother's experiences and advice as a guiding force. They discuss the influence of their environment on their values and choices, including the decision not to go to college due to financial constraints. The speaker also talks about their role as a provider for their family and the pressures and responsibilities that come with it. They express a desire to use their influence and experiences to create change, both in their community and beyond, highlighting the importance of authenticity and the complexity of their public image.

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๐Ÿคฌ Anger and the Thug Life Persona

The speaker delves into the anger and frustration they feel towards societal structures that have marginalized them and their community. They discuss the concept of the 'thug life' as a survival mechanism rather than a choice, and how it is perceived by the media and the public. The speaker argues that their anger is a response to systemic oppression and the lack of opportunities, and they challenge the idea that they are being 'pimped' by the music industry. They assert their independence and the authenticity of their experiences, emphasizing the importance of representing the realities of their community.

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๐Ÿ” Media Portrayal and Self-Defense

The speaker addresses the media's portrayal of black men arming themselves as criminal, arguing that it is a necessary form of self-defense in their community. They highlight the disparity in how black and white communities are policed and the different levels of security provided. The speaker also discusses the responsibility they feel to speak out about violence in their community, using their platform to raise awareness and to encourage non-violence. They express the desire for their community to be seen and treated with the same respect and value as others, and they reflect on the potential consequences of their actions and words.

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๐Ÿ›ก๏ธ Community Protection and the Fight for Respect

The speaker reiterates the need for protection in their community, drawing parallels between the tools used by the police and those used by residents for self-defense. They discuss the importance of unity and the responsibility they feel to represent their community, emphasizing the shared fear of crime. The speaker also reflects on their role as a spokesperson for their generation, expressing a desire to live and to be seen as more than just a criminal. They discuss their commitment to 'doing God's work' by advocating for those in similar situations and the importance of being a positive influence, despite the challenges and dangers they face.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กWar Zone

A 'war zone' typically refers to an area where active combat or warfare is taking place. In the context of the video script, it metaphorically describes the harsh and dangerous living conditions in certain communities, suggesting that residents must be as vigilant and protective as in a combat situation. The speaker uses this term to emphasize the severity of street crime and violence they face daily.

๐Ÿ’กSelf-Defense

'Self-Defense' generally means protecting oneself from harm. The script mentions residents arming themselves as a form of self-defense due to the perceived lack of safety. It underscores the community's need to protect itself in the absence of adequate protection from external sources, such as law enforcement.

๐Ÿ’กGhetto

The term 'ghetto' historically refers to a part of a city, often segregated, where members of a minority group live, typically in poor conditions. In the script, it is used to describe the impoverished and crime-ridden neighborhoods the speaker is from, highlighting systemic issues of poverty and racial segregation.

๐Ÿ’กPacifism

Pacifism is the belief that disputes can be resolved without violence. The speaker contrasts the community's need for self-defense with the broader societal call for pacifism, suggesting a complex relationship with the concept. They argue that advocating for non-violence in their situation is unrealistic without addressing the root causes of violence.

๐Ÿ’กThug Life

The phrase 'thug life' is used to describe a lifestyle associated with crime and violence. The speaker acknowledges the 'thug' persona but also discusses the economic and social conditions that lead individuals to adopt such a lifestyle. It is portrayed not as a choice but as a survival mechanism in challenging environments.

๐Ÿ’กRole Model

A 'role model' is someone who serves as an example, whose behavior is emulated by others. The script discusses the expectations placed on the speaker as a public figure and the pressure to be a positive role model despite the adversities they've faced. It raises questions about who qualifies as a role model in communities where conventional role models are scarce.

๐Ÿ’กBlack Panthers

The 'Black Panthers' refers to the Black Panther Party, a political organization in the 1960s and 1970s that advocated for the rights of African Americans. The speaker draws a parallel between the Panthers' activism and the current generation's struggle, suggesting a continuation of the fight against racial injustice.

๐Ÿ’กSystemic Racism

Systemic racism refers to the ingrained racial discrimination within societal systems. The script implies systemic racism by discussing how the lack of resources and high crime rates in certain communities are not just individual issues but are part of a larger pattern of discrimination and neglect.

๐Ÿ’กPoverty

Poverty is the state of being extremely poor. The script mentions poverty as a central issue affecting the community, linking it to crime, lack of education, and limited opportunities. It is portrayed as a cycle that is hard to break and deeply entrenched in the community's struggles.

๐Ÿ’กCommunity

In the script, 'community' refers to the local population or neighborhood, emphasizing the collective experience of living in impoverished and crime-ridden areas. The speaker discusses the need for unity and mutual support within the community, suggesting that collective action is necessary to overcome shared challenges.

๐Ÿ’กSurvival

'Survival' in this context refers to the struggle to live through difficult conditions. The speaker talks about the daily struggle to stay safe and the measures taken to ensure survival, such as carrying weapons for protection. It highlights the harsh realities and the fight for basic safety and existence.

Highlights

Living in a war zone and the necessity to carry protection due to the high crime rate in the community.

The police carrying heavy weaponry and riot gear, indicating the severity of the situation.

The realization that the same crime elements feared by white people are also feared by black people.

The responsibility to represent one's generation and continue the fight for equality.

The importance of uniting and using the platform to communicate with a large audience.

The desire to live and not be remembered as a criminal or rapist.

The transformative journey from not caring about life to wanting to make a positive impact.

The belief in doing God's work by advocating for those in the ghetto.

The lack of positive role models and the influence of negative figures in the community.

The impact of growing up without a father figure and its effects on personal development.

The struggle of financial limitations preventing educational opportunities.

The sense of responsibility to provide for one's family and the sacrifices made.

The potential to influence and inspire youth across different backgrounds.

The challenge of maintaining one's authentic self while being portrayed by the media.

The anger and frustration towards societal structures that perpetuate inequality.

The critique of the music industry and the exploitation of black artists for profit.

The defense of the right to bear arms for self-defense in high-crime areas.

The plea for understanding and support from the community and its leaders.

Transcripts

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you know I'm saying it's that it's that

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situation when you got we are living in

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a war zone it's not as easy as these

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people are making a stink that if you

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just got some criminal ass black kids

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with guns it is not like that we live in

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hell we live in the gutter we got a

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stacked up 80 deep in one building you

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know by the time you get out your house

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you strap it to protect yourself cuz you

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living in the same community if the

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police is carrying rifles and riot gear

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saying they need them right right excuse

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my language I'm so sorry the same

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reasons they need the right hat the

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right jacket the flak jacket the double

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vest the nine-millimeter Glocks with

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extra bullets the teargas the mace all

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who do you think the police is using

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that against dogs so we fighting the

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same villains that they fight in the

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street but instead of them seeing us

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Martin bill is in the street we all

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billets is your generation the one that

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is picking up for where the Panthers

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left off saying all right enough is

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enough

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the generation before us forgot about

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the fight we're picking it back up

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not only forgot about the fight forgot

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about us yes and we're picking it back

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up but at this level all we're trying to

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do is unite and right now as a year we

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got a million people that's listening

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now we can tell them something

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now we could try to get them that way

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and we might lose them we might gain

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something but we would never even had

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that audience had we not said what was

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real you know I'm saying and the main

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thing for us to remember is that the

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same crime element that white people are

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scared of black people are scared of the

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same crime element that white people

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fear we fear so we defend ourselves from

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the same crime element that they scared

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of you know I'm saying why they wait for

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the legislation in the past and

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everything we next door to the killer

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we next door to him you know cuz me up

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into projects with 80 in the building

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all them killers that they letting out

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they right there in that building but

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it's better this cuz we black we get

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along with the killers or something we

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get along with the rapist cuz we black

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and we from the same what is that we

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need protection to finally I want to ask

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you about something that someone else

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asked you in the interview and I thought

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the answer was interesting because I

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think it speaks to you and your

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generation a lot someone said where do

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you see Tupac ten years from

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you said hey I just want to be alive

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that's real for you that's so real I

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can't I made a metamorphosis I'm a new

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person today because I used to strongly

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and honestly honestly I feel like I

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could represent my generation so much

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because I honestly did not care whether

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I lived or died but now I cannot die

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with people thinking I'm a rapist or

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criminal

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I can't leave straight you know I'm not

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suicidal I'm not I can't go

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let's see y'all really know what time it

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is and then after that boom it's all

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over and we could see you know before

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but that's how it is and reason being is

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because if I can't live free if I can't

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live with the same respect as the next

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man I don't want to be here because God

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has cursed me to see what life should be

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like if God wanted me to be this person

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and be happy here he wouldn't let me

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feel so oppressed he wouldn't let me

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feel so trampled on you know I'm saying

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he wouldn't let me think the things I

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think so I feel like I'm doing God's

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work you know I'm saying just because I

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don't have nothing to pass around for

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people to put money in the bucket don't

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mean I ain't doing God's work I feel

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like I'm doing God's work you know I'm

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saying because these ghetto kids ain't

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God's children and I don't see no

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missionaries coming through there you

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know I'm saying so I'm doing God's work

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while Reverend Jackson do hit up in the

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middle class and he go to the right

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house and have dinner and pray over the

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president I'm up in the hood you know

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I'm saying doing my work with my folks

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and just cuz I don't live dead I mean I

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don't go there I got to go there cuz I

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can't hang nowhere else

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what would a Vietnam vet be like without

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a sergeant without any backup without

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any other soldiers nobody but a Vietnam

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vet in Vietnam when he came on how would

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he be and that's me I had to go through

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all that Street war everything the same

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drugs that everybody else get turned out

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on you know where I would've been

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stopped short it I made it pass and

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here's where I am but because I made a

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pass I missed some lessons you know I'm

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saying and you can see the lessons that

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I miss when you talk to me you can see

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where where I haven't had a father when

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you talk to me you know I'm saying you

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can see where I spent a lot of my time

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in the streets when you talk to me

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because the words I said I know words

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that come from a mother's mouth or a

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father's mouth is words that comes from

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a pimps mouth or a prostitute or a

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hustler or a drug dealer you know I'm

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saying but to me these were my role

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models how much of that though in terms

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of growing up without a father sometimes

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not being with your mother do you do you

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lament on and look back and say damn I

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missed something big everything um I

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know for a fact that had I had a father

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how to have somebody and I hate saying

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this cuz why people love hearing black

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people talk about this but had I had a

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father had I had some of these

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opportunities I'd have been able to help

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my mother more she wouldn't have went

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the road she went I could have been a

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better son you know I'm saying she

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wouldn't went that road it was the

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absence of my father you know I'm saying

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I'm dealing with him being daddy not

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being there my mother's dealing with him

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getting my man not being there you know

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so many problems in our community that

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that affect everything so by me not

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having that I never want to hear nothing

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about no kind of relationships between a

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black man and a black woman I knew they

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didn't work because as far as I knew my

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daddy was the coolest dude out there and

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my mama was a panther so dating work it

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don't work that's how I felt you know

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I'm saying and going out there

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you don't saying it's like watching my

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mother just go through changes and

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everything it's like my mother is my

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partner she is soldier you know she a

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soldier like I'm a soldier you know I've

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watched the repeat the game that she

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went through if I would have went to

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saying when my mother went had not she

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did her route and showed me which way it

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went wrong with her

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my mother always told me don't you ever

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ever just volunteer yourself to our

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people because they'll use you that's

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what they do

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you know I'm saying she never she also

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told me follow my heart

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and for me to be the leader but it's

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interesting to see just the change in

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your face your reaction your thought

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process that's all I ever wanted did you

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ask my mama I wanted to go to college I

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went to school all the way and was ready

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to go to college the only thing that

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stopped me was money the time we packed

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all my all the kids in my school was

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writing applications to go to college I

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didn't have no life so knowing that you

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and I need my mama's fault you know I'm

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saying so when I think back to that I'm

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not talking for me I'm talking for my

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family I pay all the bills you know I'm

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saying I feed my whole family wrong all

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right

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I do and I can't stop you know I'm

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saying if tugging is gonna make me a

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million bucks cuz it just got me

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pregnant that's what I got to do

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constantly and if it makes me feel

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because right now I feel satisfied I

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don't feel like I've ever embarrassed

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myself or my people you know and nothing

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I've done and ya know I got the whole

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world theory you know I'm saying

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at 23 weighing 160 pounds you know

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saying and I ain't even started

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I haven't even wrote my plan out yet and

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they scared I got the vice-president

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Know Who I am the president every cop in

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every city you know I'm saying and I

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haven't even started working on a plan I

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have something to offer the business

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that hasn't been shown before you know I

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have a whole energy that represents not

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just black youth but white youth Mexican

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youth you you know I'm saying that that

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um that change right before you go from

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being 18 and unresponsible so when you

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go to being like 21 22 and the whole

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worlds on your shoulders I believe

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strongly that um my audience empathize

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with me because I showed that side I

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showed that emotion raw uncut good and

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bad and so I think I can bring that more

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fun more directed into the screenplays

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more albums producing managing you know

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I'm saying if I can figure out just how

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to control it

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I can I can use it on a lot of different

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levels

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I tripped off because it happens out of

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nothing it just goes you know everybody

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just be screaming to that you know I

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just I get uncomfortable and I it's like

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it's like I'm similar to a deer being

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caught in the headlights I just freeze

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you know I don't know what to do I don't

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know if I should um be what they want me

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to be or if I should make them hate me

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so they can stop you know like say

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something mean so they can just stop but

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I'm also I'm just like caught in the

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middle of it because you can't I mean no

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one could do that police can't do that

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they can't stand in front of all those

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people we're controlling with a gun and

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mace and all that so me with just words

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it's like a battle to find the right

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words to say at the right time I'm

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curious when you when you think about

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the idea that you do have that kind of

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control over so many people and in one

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sense the whole idea of being a role

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model comes up in the imagery and a lot

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of people who know you and I talked to

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them beforehand suggested that hey you

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know when you meet him he's gonna be

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something entirely different than you

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imagine and what the media is portraying

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them what about that idea that that you

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have been portrayed and sometimes I mean

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to be honest you like the portrayal of

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you just hard

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that's uh that's right don't step on me

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that's right you're in trouble

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that's right yet there's another side to

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you too what about that idea that you've

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got to be able to figure out where

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you're going to me it's like um

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it is my sensitive side that um that

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likes to blow up the hard side because

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if my if I can if my image or my

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reputation can stop a confrontation

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before it happens I'm fine you know I'm

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saying I know how it is day-to-day it's

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a constant man ego check going on

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industry in this world so part of that

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is just like you know that's my that's

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my resume but as far as the media they

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look at it something different they

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don't care about my resume they don't

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care about me knocking in trouble it's

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just another story you know and it's a

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real story they don't have to pay for it

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and they're gonna milk it for all it's

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worth as far as people they want me when

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they first see me to humble myself they

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want me to be like this and do it in

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just because they're scared of me but I

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don't feel like that's my job to humble

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myself to show you that I'm not

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right I'm not a threat unless you're a

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threat to me you know I'm saying so when

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people say when you meet pop she's

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different than the years because when

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somebody one-on-one anybody one-on-one

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I believe honestly that I can talk I

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believe that I have the ability to

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reason I have logic I have compassion I

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have understanding if we talk there's no

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problems you know it's there but that's

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not what happens people use what they

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heard in the media and that's how they

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come at me and then you know we got a

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clash one of the things that you read in

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the media is that you're angry that you

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personify your generation that you just

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got some angry folks out there and

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you're one of them I'll put it to you

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are you angry are you angry with what

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you see Society is about yeah I'm I'm

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extremely angry confused you know a lot

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of the times I set up in court I

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couldn't defend myself you know I'm

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saying and it was it wasn't like the

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things they were saying about me were

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beyond my comprehension or the things

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that I could say weren't gonna help my

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case but because I mean I was just like

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being exiled you know from from society

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and that's how I feel and this whole um

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anger comes from

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I'm tired of waiting for my past to get

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into society all everyone's do was make

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me and everybody around me feel more

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comfortable about where we were you know

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I'm saying about the places that we stay

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we we this is our home base let's build

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it up let's be happy about where we come

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from you know I'm saying instead of

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trying to assimilate and get a passkey

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to it yet you know I'm saying not to say

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that everything needs to be separate but

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we gotta find pride in ourselves you

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know I'm saying and and once you get to

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pride like family at two seconds after

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the prior comes anger from being held

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like that for so long and to be made to

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go through those changes you get mad you

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know I'm saying as soon as I believe

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soon as any black man receives his first

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three checks he starts getting mad

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because it's not about the necessity of

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having to have a job and having to pay

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and having to do that you don't care no

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more about the smiles and you know yes

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massa

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because you didn't got paid you know I'm

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saying and now it's like you want to

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save money you want to help other people

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you see how how far it is how far you

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have to go to help anybody in your

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neighborhood it's set up for me when I

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get paid for me to exit together you

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know I'm saying the only reason I've had

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these problems because I haven't left

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yet and these problems don't come from a

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white man

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it comes from just society the problems

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that we have let me put this to you a

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lot of people tell me to pocket is for

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the most part a nice guy

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there's so third thing hyper good for

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record sales helps them identify with

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the young people who are out there and

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angry who would maybe label him a

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sellout like they did hammer if he

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didn't have that heart about first of

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all nobody could call me a sellout I'm

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not I'm not going for that I'm not even

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in that I'm not I'm not looking for

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approval from the black community

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because we don't give approval you know

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we don't really do nothing but exists so

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it's not like I'm black people could

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tell me you a sellout or you true-blue

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you know saying it's not that I'm not

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even caught up in that but I can see

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that you know I'm saying the one thing

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we do have in common as black people is

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we share that poverty so the thug side

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is more closer to the poverty than me

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being rich you know how can I come to

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any community center you know I'm saying

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spoiling a Rolex presidential all these

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diamonds and be like look we gotta gotta

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yeah but now when I say we they know

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what I mean I'm not saying like I live

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in this neighborhood none but I'm a thug

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and they thought they can relate to I

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mean about to say that you know I'm

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saying when I come I'd like to say I'm

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real they already know hey you know I'm

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saying from for me for me being me

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from not pushing the darkness but I know

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from the business that everybody in this

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business is always whisper in your ear

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about what you can't say well you can't

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do what you can't we're in this world

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and then this works two words

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why were the black world all I did was

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stand in the middle you know I'm saying

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it say I'm living in these but I'm

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living in both worlds I can go to the

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streets and survive and I can go out

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here and do my business out here

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I'm play devil's advocate again critics

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say yeah but you being pimped you being

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pimped by the record record executives

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who will allow you to do your thug life

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because it betrays a certain black I

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mean you've heard it yeah that if you

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were just a singer you wouldn't have the

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same record contracts you have but

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because you portrayed the thug life the

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gangster rap they've allowed you to make

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that money they've allowed you to push

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and make

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platon I beg to differ yes said I'm

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getting pinched that's true but just

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like how about our woman would be you

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know I'm saying anybody to be pimps you

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know it's like it's not that you get

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pimps it's how long you get pants you

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know saying because if you really look

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at this situation it is not I who's

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being pimps when you look at the white

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kids we write a sad song it's the white

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folks getting pimps you know I'm saying

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cuz I'm making their future I'm writing

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down their curriculum right now what I

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write in my I'll be too gay when it

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comes out in two months that's what

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white kids is doing so who really is

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getting pimps I'll be I'll be out when

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I'm writing my raps is what the white

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kids is gonna be saying today mommies

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and daddies when they come home

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he is getting pimps you know I'm saying

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I'm a high school dropout you know I'm

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saying far as my teacher told me when I

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was in high school I had to be you know

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I'm saying

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I just gotta move it's going down the

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other said is going down you know

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everybody's getting pimped whether you

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working on the five or whether you work

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for yourself you getting pimped by

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somebody that's not that that's not the

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clock the crime is how long you allow

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yourself to get ten you have to come up

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everything has to come up everything is

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a struggle you start from the bottom

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working to the top

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the press in the media makes you think

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that a black man arming himself is

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illegal o criminal or that he wants to

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arm itself to rob a liquor store some

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you know I'm saying that is for me to

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defend myself and it should always be

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it's just about surviving you know and

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we have to be honest about the tools

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that we use to survive and why is a

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black life any any more recoupable in a

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white life you know I'm saying we know

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that they don't put the same security

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and then get over that they do and

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whites and and the white neighborhoods

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so therefore for me to be out here

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saying don't you know put your guns down

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and no violence I said we're critical

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and if I didn't talk about the violence

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everybody would act like the violence

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wasn't there

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we as rappers brought that violence we

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bought the violence that we've seen on

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the street we put in our records put in

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our records for years and after three

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four years people finally starting to

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see it because all the statistics that's

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going on in the streets if we stop

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talking about it then they wouldn't take

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statistics and when they stop taking

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statistics then we'd be killing each

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other in the stream these white people

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wouldn't care no more only people they

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only reason they cares cuz you know

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that's been some strays and we just

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slipped over in the white neighborhoods

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and it's kids in Iowa they want to be

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like us you know I'm saying it's kids

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and in Indiana that's trying to be like

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us cuz they can relate to you know I'm

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saying you even admitted I don't live in

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that neighborhood anymore there's no

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real reason for you to carry a nine

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millimeter don't believe that why and in

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two years I've had a gun pulled on me by

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my limo driver by police by everybody

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you know I'm saying and I better be

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I better be you know I'm saying I've

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been attacked you ain't read the papers

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about these skinheads trying to blow up

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black churches Wow

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they see me as the enemy just like y'all

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do you know I'm saying they can come to

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my house and sit outside my house just

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like anybody else can ask in it and once

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my life was gone is gone can't nobody

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give it back to me not the judge not the

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president not the governor not Calvin

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but not Jesse Jackson they came to

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number come to my funeral and talk

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pretty about how black people suffer you

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understand and as far as Jesse Jackson

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my first acting job was at the Apollo

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Theater when Jesse Jackson was running

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for president in 1984

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it hurts me for him to say anything

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negative about any rapper because we

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supported him

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should support us you know I'm saying as

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far as his image you know I'm saying

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what was he what was he doing you know

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he should be the last person talking

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about gun violence when he sat right

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there while Martin Luther King caught

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one in the neck you know I'm saying

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things they really changed that much I

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swear to God nothing I ever say he's

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meant to be something where innocent

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people get hurt nothing I ever say it's

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meant to be like a endure let's go do it

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right now

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nothing everything I ever say and if any

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this is a we could set it clear anything

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I ever say as it pertains to my peers

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and and and being strapped it's only in

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self-defense you know I'm saying because

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my right now where I'm at the world is

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harsh and I just don't got no beautiful

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stories you know say I'm gonna just be

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getting them ready cuz that's why I

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think I messed up if somebody would have

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grabbed me pulled me to the side and

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been like look surprised as soon as you

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step out here they're gonna be actually

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assume I would explained it to me I

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wouldn't it took the same mistakes but I

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made those mistakes and now it's my job

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to stop somebody else from making those

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same mistakes to lay it out to lay out

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the real map on the world and how would

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it everything I'm saying is a warning is

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a plea for hell if everybody was so I

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didn't worried about me why ain't nobody

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can't help me you know I'm saying I

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never wanted to be no star to say my job

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care for everybody don't cheer for me

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you know I'm saying if you're not

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cheering for me for what I'm doing

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though cheer for me don't cheer cuz you

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think I'm cute you know I'm saying screw

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that cheered for me for what I'm doing

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for what I stand for and when I go to

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jail you should cheer louder you know

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I'm saying cuz I'm standing up for what

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I do I'm not robbing nobody not stealing

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from nobody I never took nothing

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everything I do I do to represent my

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people I do because I think this is what

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they want me to do

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we killing each other because we killing

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ourselves we're not when a man when

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another man I know I've been in the

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position it don't it's out of our

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control

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it's not like he wants to kill he just

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doesn't want to die you know I'm saying

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it's that it's that situation you got we

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are living in the war zone it's not as

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easy as these people are making a stink

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that he just got some criminal ass black

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kids with guns it is not like that we

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live in hell we live in the gutter

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we got a stacked up 80 deep in one

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building you know by the time you get

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out your house you strapped but to

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protect yourself because you're living

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in the same community that the police is

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carrying rifles and riot gear saying

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they need them right right excuse my

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language I'm so sorry the same reasons

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they need the right hat the right jacket

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the flak jacket the double vests the

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nine-millimeter Glocks with extra

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bullets the teargas the mace all who do

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you think the police is using that

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against dogs so we fighting the same

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villains that they fight in the street

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but instead of them seeing us Martin

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bill is in the street we all billets is

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your generation the one that is picking

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up for where the Panthers left off

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saying all right enough is enough the

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generation before us forgot about the

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fight we're picking it back up

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not only forgot about the fight forgot

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about us yes and we're picking it back

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up but at this level all we're trying to

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do is unite and right now as a year we

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got a million people that's listening

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now we can tell them something

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now we could try to get them that where

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we might lose them we might gain

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something but we would never even add

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that audience had we not said what was

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real you know I'm saying and the main

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thing for us to remember is that the

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same crime element that white people are

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scared of black people are scared of the

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same crime element that white people

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fear we fear so we defend ourselves from

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the same crime element that they scared

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of you know I'm saying why they waiting

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for the legislation in the past and

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everything we next door to the killer

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we next door to him you know cuz we up

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in the projects with 80 in the building

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all them killers that they letting out

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they right there in that building but

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it's better good cuz we black we get

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along with the killers or something we

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get along with the rapists cuz we black

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and we from the same what is that we

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need protection to finally I want to ask

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you about something that someone else

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asked you in the interview and I

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the answer was interesting because I

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think it speaks to you and your

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generation a lot someone said what do

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you see to pop ten years from now you

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said hey I just want to be alive that's

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real for you that's so real I can't I

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made a metamorphosis I'm a new person

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today because I used to strongly and

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honestly honestly I feel like I could

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represent my generation so much because

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I honestly did not care whether I lived

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or died but now I cannot die or people

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thinking I'm a rapist or criminal

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I can't leave straight you know I'm not

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suicidal

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I'm not can't go let's see y'all really

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know what time it is and then after that

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boom it's all over and we could see her

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you know fall but that's how it is and

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reason being is because if I can't live

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free if I can't live with the same

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respect as the next man I don't want to

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be here because God has cursed me to see

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what life should be like if God wanted

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me to be this person and be happy here

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he wouldn't let me feel so oppressed he

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wouldn't let me feel so trampled on you

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know I'm saying he wouldn't let me think

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the things I think so I feel like I'm

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doing God's work you know I'm saying

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just because I don't have nothing to

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pass around for people to put money in

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the bucket don't mean I ain't doing

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God's work I feel like I'm doing God's

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work you know I'm saying because these

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ghetto kids ain't God's children and I

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don't see no missionaries coming through

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there you know I'm saying so I'm doing

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God's work well Reverend Jackson do hit

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up in the middle class and he go to the

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White House and have dinner and pray

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over the president I'm up in the hood

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you know I'm saying doing my work with

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my folks and just cuz I don't live there

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I mean I don't go here I got to go there

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cuz I can't

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