To Back Or Not To Back - Veiled Fate, Armello, Wroth & More!!!

BoardGameCo
18 Mar 202457:29

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Alex R from Board Game Co discusses a variety of board game campaigns, including their stretch goals, pledge levels, and whether they are worth backing. He covers games like Worms Span, Dungeons and Lasers, Star Forge, and Candy Hunters, among others. Alex provides insights into the potential value retention of these games, considering factors like retail availability and the uniqueness of Kickstarter exclusives. He also shares his personal picks for the week, highlighting Veil Fate: Tribunal for its value retention and Roth for its engaging gameplay.

Takeaways

  • ๐ŸŽฒ The video discusses various board game campaigns, their stretch goals, pledge levels, and whether they are worth backing or not.
  • ๐Ÿค” The host, Alex R, provides insights on the value and potential of each game, considering factors like retail availability and secondary market performance.
  • ๐Ÿ“ฆ Backing a game on crowdfunding can offer exclusive items and earlier access, but it may not always be the cheapest option in the long run.
  • ๐Ÿ’ฐ The price points of games on crowdfunding campaigns often include extra costs like shipping, which can make the actual price higher than expected.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฅ Popular games like 'Veil Fate: Tribunal' and 'Robot Quest Arena' have successfully held their value on the secondary market due to their exclusive Kickstarter content.
  • ๐Ÿคทโ€โ™‚๏ธ The host expresses uncertainty about the future value of games like 'Aro' and 'Under Our Sun', citing varying interest and potential market saturation.
  • ๐ŸŒŸ Highlighted games include 'Dungeons and Lasers', 'Wormspan', and 'Star Forge', which offer terrain and miniatures-focused experiences.
  • ๐ŸŽฏ The video emphasizes the importance of doing one's own research before backing a game, considering factors like personal interest, game mechanics, and budget.
  • ๐Ÿ›๏ธ For those looking to minimize costs, the host suggests comparing prices on platforms like Miniature Market and considering the total cost of ownership including shipping.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ The discussion่ฝฎๅ›ž through different campaigns, providing a broad overview of the current board game crowdfunding landscape and the variety of games available.
  • ๐ŸŽฒ The video concludes with the host's personal picks of the week, highlighting 'Veil Fate: Tribunal' for its value retention and 'Roth' for personal interest.

Q & A

  • What is the main focus of the video?

    -The main focus of the video is to discuss various board game campaigns, their stretch goals, pledge levels, and whether they are worth backing or not.

  • What is Cult of the Now?

    -Cult of the Now is a segment where the speaker reviews a currently available game, in this case, it is a pre-order exception for Worms Span Worms.

  • Why did Stone me Games avoid crowdfunding for Worms Span Worms?

    -Stone me Games avoided crowdfunding for Worms Span Worms because they have been focusing on direct sales for the past several years instead of crowdfunding.

  • What is the significance of the Dungeons and Lasers K case campaign by Aran Studio?

    -The significance of the Dungeons and Lasers K case campaign is that it brings a large focus on terrain, including pre-painted terrain, and miniatures, continuing their series of campaigns that combine terrain and miniatures.

  • What is the main difference between the standard and deluxe editions of a game in the video?

    -The main difference between the standard and deluxe editions is usually the presence of additional content, improved components, and sometimes exclusive items or promos in the deluxe edition.

  • What is the speaker's opinion on the value retention of the games discussed in the video?

    -The speaker is generally skeptical about the value retention of the games, as they believe most of them will be available at retail and may not hold their crowdfunding prices in the secondary market.

  • What is the speaker's recommendation for those who want the most premium experience of a game?

    -The speaker recommends backing the game on crowdfunding if you want the most premium experience, as it often includes exclusive items and promos that may not be available later.

  • What is the main advantage of backing a game on crowdfunding according to the video?

    -The main advantage of backing a game on crowdfunding is the opportunity to support the creator, get the game early, and potentially receive exclusive extras or promos that may not be available at retail.

  • What is the speaker's approach to predicting the success of crowdfunding campaigns?

    -The speaker uses a combination of the number of backers, the funding progress, and their own knowledge and experience with similar campaigns to make educated predictions about the success of crowdfunding campaigns.

  • What is the speaker's advice for those who are unsure about backing a game?

    -The speaker advises those who are unsure about backing a game to wait and get it at retail later, as there is usually less risk involved and the price may be more affordable.

Outlines

00:00

๐Ÿ“ฃ Introduction and Cult of the Now

The video begins with Alex R introducing himself and mentioning the Cult of the Now segment, where he reviews a currently available game. He makes an exception for a pre-order game, Worms Ban, from Stone Me Games. Alex discusses the game's popularity and availability, as well as his general approach to reviewing games, including his disclaimer about working for a game foundry.

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๐ŸŽฏ Campaigns and Pledge Levels

Alex dives into various campaigns, discussing their features, pledge levels, and whether they are worth backing. He covers a range of games including Dungeons and Lasers K case, Star Forge hand-painted sci-fi terrain, and the not yet funded category with campaigns like Al from Game Brewer and Craft Wagon Age of Engineering and Dragon Gold. He also shares his predictions about these campaigns' success and funding.

10:02

๐Ÿ” In-Depth Campaign Analysis

The paragraph focuses on a detailed analysis of specific campaigns such as Logic and Lore, a two-player deduction game, and Fantasy Form, a solo game from Button Shy. Alex discusses the mechanics, themes, and pricing of these games, comparing them to retail prices and considering their potential value in the market.

15:03

๐ŸŽฒ Victorian Horror and Candy Hunters

Alex discusses the Victorian horror board game, The Presence, and its unique gameplay where players may or may not be on the same side. He also talks about Candy Hunters, a tile-moving game with Halloween themes, and its pledge levels and stretch goals. He considers the potential retail presence and value of these games.

20:04

๐Ÿฏ Inventors of the South Tigers and Aetherstone

The segment covers Inventors of the South Tigers, a dice manipulation game from Garfield Games, and Aetherstone, an evolving card game from Thunder Griff Games. Alex talks about the gameplay, the creators, and the pledge levels for each game, including the all-in options and the potential for these games to hold their value.

25:05

๐Ÿฆ‡ Roth and Nexus Unsanitized

Alex reviews Roth, an area control game with a neon design from Chip Theory, and Nexus Unsanitized, an expansion to the Nexus Arena skirmish game. He discusses the game mechanics, the aesthetics, and the pledge levels, including the all-in bundles and the potential for these games to hold their value in the market.

30:06

โ˜•๏ธ Crustoff Coffee and Flash Point: Legacy of Flame

In this section, Alex talks about Crustoff Coffee, a solo game from Game Barett, and Flash Point: Legacy of Flame, a cooperative firefighting game with a legacy system. He discusses the gameplay, the pledge levels, and the potential for these games to hold their value, especially considering the limited edition nature of Crustoff Coffee.

35:07

๐Ÿˆ Bases Loaded and Geck Deluxe

Alex reviews Bases Loaded, a baseball-themed game from Eagle-Gryphon Games, and the Geck Deluxe edition from Peacekeeper Games. He discusses the game mechanics, the new content, and the pledge levels, considering the potential for these games to hold their value in the market and the retail availability.

40:08

๐ŸŒž Under Our Sun and Veil Fate: Tribunal

The video continues with Under Our Sun, a cooperative game set in a post-apocalyptic world from Tabletop Games, and Veil Fate: Tribunal, a strategic deduction game expansion from IV Games. Alex talks about the gameplay, the pledge levels, and the potential for these games to hold their value, highlighting the popularity and demand for Veil Fate's Kickstarter exclusive content.

45:09

๐Ÿค– Robot Quest Arena

Alex concludes with Robot Quest Arena, a deck-building skirmish game from Wier Games. He discusses the game's mechanics, the prepainted miniatures, and the various pledge tiers, noting the game's popularity and the strong performance of its Kickstarter exclusive content on the secondary market.

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๐Ÿ† Pick of the Week

Alex selects his personal pick of the week, Roth, and his value pick, Veil Fate: Tribunal. He explains his choices, noting the enjoyment he had playing Roth and the strong value retention of Veil Fate's Kickstarter exclusive content.

Mindmap

Keywords

๐Ÿ’กboard game Co

Refers to the company or collective behind the video content, which focuses on reviewing and discussing board games. It is the main subject of the video, as the speaker, Alex R, introduces himself as part of this group.

๐Ÿ’กcampaigns

In the context of the video, 'campaigns' refers to the promotional efforts and funding drives for board games, typically conducted on platforms like Kickstarter or Gamefound. These campaigns often include stretch goals, pledge levels, and various incentives to encourage backers.

๐Ÿ’กstretch goals

Stretch goals are additional objectives or features offered by a project during a crowdfunding campaign, which are unlocked when certain funding levels are reached. They serve as incentives to attract more backers and increase the overall funding.

๐Ÿ’กpledge levels

Pledge levels are the different tiers or amounts of financial support that backers can choose to contribute to a crowdfunding campaign. Each level typically offers specific rewards or benefits to the backer in return for their pledge.

๐Ÿ’กWorms Ban

Worms Ban is a board game that is mentioned as being available for pre-order. It is developed by Stone Me Games and published by Jamie STM, and the game is noted for its avoidance of crowdfunding, offering the game directly for pre-order at Game Nerds.

๐Ÿ’กDungeons and Lasers

Dungeons and Lasers is a series of campaigns by Aran Studio, focusing on terrain and miniatures for tabletop games. The campaign mentioned in the video emphasizes prepainted terrain and miniatures, aiming to provide a rich gaming experience with detailed game components.

๐Ÿ’กDwarven Forge

Dwarven Forge is a company known for producing high-quality, modular terrain for tabletop games. In the context of the video, they are running a campaign for sci-fi terrain, offering both regular and pre-painted versions of their terrain tiles.

๐Ÿ’กGame Brewer

Game Brewer is a publisher mentioned in the video that has a history of running campaigns with varying success. The speaker speculates on the potential success of their current campaign, which has not yet reached its audience as expected.

๐Ÿ’กCraft Wagon

Craft Wagon is mentioned as a game publisher that previously had a cancellation and relaunch. They are currently running a campaign for 'Craft Wagon Age of Engineering and Dragon Gold', which includes two games, 'Dragon Gold' and 'Craft Wagon', both designed by Matias Kramer and Bruto for Duty Games.

๐Ÿ’กVeil Fate

Veil Fate is a strategic deduction game by IV Games, where players control a demigod and aim to win without revealing their identity. The game involves subtle gameplay and teamwork, with expansions like the Tribunal adding new mechanics and components to enhance the base game.

๐Ÿ’กRobot Quest

Robot Quest is a deck-building skirmish game by Wier Games, where players control bots in an arena battle. The game involves building decks with various cards that represent different abilities and strategies, and it stands out for its prepainted miniatures and expandable content.

Highlights

Alex R from board game Co discusses a variety of campaigns, including stretch goals and pledge levels.

Crown fending goodness is mentioned as a starting point for the discussion.

The Cult of the Now segment focuses on a currently available game, Worms Span, from Jamie STM.

Dungeons and Lasers K case from Aran Studio is highlighted for its large focus on terrain and miniatures.

Star Forge hand-painted sci-fi terrain by Dwarven Forge is discussed for its modular design and durability.

Game Brewer's campaign is mentioned, with its school and teaching theme reminiscent of Sanori.

Craft Wagon Age of Engineering and Dragon Gold is noted for its reprints and potential for funding.

Ugu Age of Discordance is discussed, with its dice assigning mechanic and potential for funding.

Logic and Lore is praised as a cozy but competitive deduction game for two players.

Fantasy Form from Button Shy is described as a solo game with a focus on defeating rival Alchemists.

The Presence of Victoria is highlighted for its interesting cooperative or semi-cooperative gameplay.

Candy Hunters and Smart Flamingo is noted for its tile-moving gameplay and Halloween theme.

Inventors of the South Tigers from Garfield Games continues the Wayfair Scholars and Inventors Trilogy.

Aetherstone from Thunder Griff Games is an evolving card game with a focus on seven-ard drafting.

Roth from Chip 3 Games is an area control game with a neon design and unique dice and tokens.

Nexus Unsanctioned is an expansion to Nexus Arena, offering a skirmish game with an ever-changing battlefield.

Crust Over Coffee from Gabe Barrett continues the solo game of the month series with a coffee-themed quest game.

Flash Point: Legacy of Flame is discussed, offering a legacy version of the popular firefighting cooperative game.

Baseball Highlights 2045 is mentioned as a loaded edition with newๅ…จๆ˜Žๆ˜Ÿๆ‰ฉๅผ .

Gearworks Deluxe Edition and new promo cards are discussed, focusing on the game's Sudoku-style card placement.

Under Our Sun from Tabletop Games is highlighted for its cooperative or semi-cooperative post-apocalyptic world exploration.

Veil Fate: Tribunal from IV Games is noted for its strategic deduction gameplay and new expansion content.

Aro the Board Game from Quicks Studios is a board game adaptation of the video game inspired by the board game.

Robot Quest Arena is discussed as a deck-building skirmish game with prepainted bots and customizable decks.

Transcripts

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hey I'm Alex R from board game Co and

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this is two back or not to back we're

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going to go through a variety of

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campaigns talk about the stretch goals

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The Pledge levels all the things in the

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campaign and of course does it make

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sense to get it or not but before we

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dive into all of that Crown fending

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goodness let's go ahead and start off

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with our Cult of the now Cult of the now

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is a segment where we take a look at a

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currently available game and in this

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case it is a pre-order which I try to

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avoid for Cult of the now but it's also

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a pre-order that a whole lot of people

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have their hands on so I will make an

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exception in this case and that's going

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to be worms span worms span which uh

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from Jamie STM from ston me games which

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decided to avoid crowdfunding entirely

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because that's been ston me's um modus

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operan for the past what is it 8 years n

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years it's been a while since I've been

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on crowdfunding maybe not that long but

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it's been a while since I've been on

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crowdfunding but either way worms ban an

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incredibly popular game that I sh going

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to review on the channel if you want to

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see that you can check out reviews and

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game plays and any number of comparisons

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on any number of channels if you want to

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see a ton of content on it but for $50

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you can go ahead and get this from game

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nerds uh it's on pre-order so you're not

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getting get right away but at least it's

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uh C to the noish instead of C of the

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year and a half from now and with that

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let's go ahead and dive into the

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campaigns and of course usual disclaimer

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that I work for a game found please take

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please take that into account as we go

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through these videos but let's go ahead

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and start off with the uh board game

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adjacent category we have Dungeons and

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lasers K case from Aran Studio over here

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this is going to be a 2,800 backers so

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far a million raised uh this is

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continuing their dungeons laser series

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of uh campaigns they've done a bunch of

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these six precisely by the number six

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you can see over there but this one's

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going to be bringing you a large focus

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on terrain and even prepainted terrain

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it seems like as well as of course some

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miniatures as well they generally have a

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combination of terrain and Miniatures

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when they do these over here and I'm not

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going to heavily go into all of this

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because well there's so much there's so

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much stuff you can go through they have

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a bunch of comparisons you know what the

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what you're getting over here what

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things look like different other sets

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Dwarven Forge whiz Whiz Kids warlock

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tiles showing you different comparable

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items we'll actually be showing you

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Dwarven Forge shortly they show you

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different themes and then you can scroll

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through the page to your heart's content

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to see an absolute ton of this stuff if

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you are someone who wants any form of

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terrain whether prepainted or not uh if

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you want to get some of the stuff at a

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relatively uh aable price point

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relatively just because this stuff is

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going to be expensive but in comparison

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to other options out there it's

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reasonably well priced that's going to

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be the Dungeons and caves from Aran

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Studios and then of course if you scroll

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down all the way to the bottom and

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there's a whole lot of scrolling to go

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through over here there just tons of

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stretch goals and what and pages and

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optional buys and add-ons over here

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there's also going to be Miniatures as

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well in case you want to get a bunch of

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miniature options in addition to your

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train options this is coming to you from

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Aran Studio continuing this in the exact

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same light well not exact same light but

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a similar light we have star Forge hand

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fit hand painted sci-fi terrain by

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Dwarven Forge Dwarven Forge have had a

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ton of campaigns are bringing their new

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their terrain their uh I believe I

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believe it's called their Dwarven knite

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the dwarf Knight is going to space with

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a flippable Terrain tiles that again has

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comes in very in regular versions and

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pre painted versions this is going to be

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their patented Dwarven knite material

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which holds up to quite a beating if you

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see this stuff at conventions this stuff

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is like I mean whatever the Dwarven

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Knight's made out of it it works but uh

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past that they're going to be a you know

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flipable train so you can be inner

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hallways you can be outer edges and they

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have a ton of videos showing you

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different ways that breaks down

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reassembles different options as far as

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the different pledge levels and what you

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can get for different options and how

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you can construct and build it and

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modulate it because the entire terrain

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set is designed to be incredibly modular

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again stuff's going to cost you a pretty

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penny all this stuff does like you can

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find yourself spending thousands of

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dollars to get any of these things but

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again reasonably priced in the vein of

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like I I don't know it's expensive it's

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expensive stuff for a premium product

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over here that's going to be the Dwarven

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Forge sci-fi terrain over here uh you

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know the newest line of terrain and from

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there we have the the not yet funding

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category we have a few campaigns to go

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over we have Al from game Brewer uh

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they've been uh they've always been an

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interesting one in the sense that

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they've they for the past I feel the

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past like two years they' had they've

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been hit or miss with their campaigns

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some of them have been landing and doing

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well others not quite so much uh this

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one has not yet quite found its audience

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uh they are actually aspects of the game

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that kind of remind me a bit of sanori

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which is a game I recently loved the way

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you have like the school and teaching

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you're moving up the tracks to plan your

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ascention to the tracks but past that

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there going to be another Euro game from

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game Brewer uh if you are one of the

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subscribers you can get a cheaper price

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point I'm not going to heavily dive into

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this one my guess is we are looking at a

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cancellation and we oh no no it's going

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to fund it's going to fund this is a

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tricky part it will fund but it's going

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to be close so like I don't know we'll

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see how it goes but either way uh this

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one is probably again it's called the

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not yet funding category because some

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they will fun this one will cross that

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Finish Line probably but it's going to

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be close so I don't know if they're

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looking at a cancellation and relaunch

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or if they're going to go ahead and

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power through on this one but again

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their campaigns they've had some really

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good games that have come out some

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really good campaigns some campaigns

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have been incredibly well received and

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they've also had those that haven't

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found their mark quite as much this one

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I would have thought had more of an

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appeal although I don't know like this

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board over here looks great but some of

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these other player board areas don't

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necessarily appeal to me as much and

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people do buy with their eyes with these

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crowfunding games so I don't know I am

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curious why this one has not landed

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quite as much With Their audience as

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their other games sometimes do moving on

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over here we have craft wagon age of

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engineering and dragon gold this one

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over here

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9,517 out of a $1,890 goal this one will

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fund for sure but again not yet funding

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category for right now this going to be

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craft dragon and dragon gold this a new

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sure Samurai games who previously came

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back to crowdfunding came to

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crowdfunding with just dragons gold they

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went through a cancellation and relaunch

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and now they're back with craft wagon

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and Dragons gold both of these being

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reprints or from the original games from

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uh Matias Kramer and Bruto for Duty

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games over here I've played dragons gold

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very solid game very uh interesting fun

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game with a dash of cheating in there

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like I don't know if they're keeping it

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but there is a cheating card in there un

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let you cheat almost got into a real

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problem with my friend over that one

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because I didn't know that was a thing

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and I saw him cheating and so that is

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what it is but past that we also have

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craft wagon which is a game I haven't

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played myself and this one here we're

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going to have coming get two plge levels

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over here we have a 25 I think two pleas

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maybe two PL no more than that we have

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25 for the dragon's gold we have 555 for

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craft wagon and we have 7575 for both of

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those so you can get a 5 Savings if

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you're getting both of those as well and

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then there's retailer pledges as well uh

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that's going to be this one again not

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yet funding so we'll see how it goes but

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almost certainly will'll be costing that

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finish line and then lastly we have uh

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ugu age of discordance over here from a

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Studios only 36 Packers in this one and

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again surprise this one going back to

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people buying with their eyes this one

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had a decent amount of followers uh the

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game looks pretty good I thought this

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one would be an easy funding but uh I'm

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not right about everything fortunately

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fortunately for all my friends I'm

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definitely not right about everything

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I'm far from it but I'm I'm usually

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decent when it comes to knowing what

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crowdfunding campaigns are going to fund

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or do decently and I I would have

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thought this would be doing better than

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36 backers and either way it's going to

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be a dice uh I believe it's dice

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drafting or dice uh dice assigning what

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not you can be assigning rolling dice

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signing to your abilities over here but

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again I'm not going to heavily go into

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the game because I don't anticipate this

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one crossing the Finish Line at this

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point uh I which I previously did but my

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my predictions at this point are

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probably a bit more accurate with with

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only 36 backers uh out of you know I

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mean 41 days left is a lot of time but I

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don't anticipate any major changes so

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that's where we are with the uh the

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first two categories the board G Jason

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and the not yet funding which means give

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me a second take a sip of coffee and

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we'll be back with the actual campaigns

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of which there are a lot to go

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through

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see this is not my Ember mug

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unfortunately because I just made the

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kind of instant coffee you know there's

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AER press I used an AER press and made

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this because I just needed something but

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um it's the is not bad but the lack of

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Ember mug

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is tactical error tactical error anyways

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let's go ahead and start off with the

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campaigns of the week we have logic and

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lore a cozy but competitive deduction

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game for two players $177,000 raised out

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of $44,000 go goal coming to you from

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weird Giraffe games 565 backers this is

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a two-player deduction game it's going

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to be a deduction game where you get to

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ask questions about your rows of cards

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while you try to align everything

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properly and then see who can get there

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first uh this basically going to be a

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little fun solo not solo it's going to

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be a fun little logic puzzle a lot lot

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people who play this game seem to have

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nothing but positive things to say about

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it being being a logic puzzle you're

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going to indicate your anwers like do

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these line up with those is this one

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before that one you keep asking

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questions until you get to a yes while

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you line up your cars and try to utilize

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your knowledge to be able to figure out

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the order of your cars as you go through

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it uh looks very cool I like logic

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puzzles in general very compelled by it

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I will say as far as pricing goes this

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one's going to be $19 for the logic and

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lore $39 for the logic and L plus

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playmat $45 for logic L plus Wicked and

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wise which means that's going to be $26

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for Wicked and wise if you're doing your

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math and that's important we'll come

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back to that

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and then over here we have $50 for

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friendly local game store and that's

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basically where we are now the $26 for

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look wian wise is a relevant point

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because again everything's going to

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depend on what your availability is but

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if you look at Miniature Market right

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now cuz I just looked at Miniature

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Market you can get Wicked and wise for

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$22 obviously this assum assumes you're

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already getting a free shipping order

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but if you are then effectively you're

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paying more to get it from the retailer

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here while from this from the publisher

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here while waiting for the game longer

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or you can just get it from Min Market

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or your friendly local game store in

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general always do your own price

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shopping comparison this is not the

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first time we'll see that kind thing

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happen in this video that kind of stuff

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does happen a lot and sometimes it's not

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the publisher trying to get one over you

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sometimes it's the publisher just

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respecting the fact that different

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people have the games different price

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points and they have to be fair to the

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Retail Partners they don't want to

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undercut their Retail Partners and

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that's the publisher decision and up to

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you to go ahead and try to figure out

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what the best price point for you is to

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make sure you're getting what makes

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sense for you again it's not just the

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the $4 differen like that's one thing be

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also waiting year to get your hands in a

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two whereas you can just get it now and

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that is likely going to hold true for

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logic and lore as well because $19 in

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logic and lore that is a good price

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point for the game itself but once you

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factor in the shipping you're once again

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in the same situation this game likely

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will be cheaper if you just wait and get

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it at retail the game looks great I'm

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very interested in the game I I like

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logic puzzles and there's lots of solid

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testimonials and opinions around the

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game so far so definitely interested in

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this one definitely recommend checking

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it out if you like this type and genre

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of game but if you're looking for the

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cheapest price point your friendly local

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game store Friendly online local game

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store is likely going to be the place to

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get it uh versus if you don't mind

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paying a few dollars more and you know

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waiting a year and a half or whatnot

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then you are supporting the Creator by

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backing it on crowdfunding moving on we

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have fantasy form a but shy wallet game

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$33,000 to raise so far, 1400 backers

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fantasy form is going to be a uh a solo

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game I believe solo only game where

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you're going to be defeating your rival

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Alchemist you're going to have a bunch

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of cars that kind of build out your um

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the enemy you're fighting against over

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here in the game this going to be coming

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to you from button shy over here it's

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going to be uh $3 for the print and play

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it's going to be $12 for Fantasy form

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which includes fantasy form plus the

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little expansion as well so you're

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getting the base game plus the the

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initial mini expansion this is very

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typical of bushy you're going to have

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the fantasy form over here know that's

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International you're going to have the

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fantasy form and spaceship for $22

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additional $10 to get your hands on

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spaceship and then $32 which means an

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additional $10 to get your hands on all

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the expansions for spaceship if you want

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to get your hands on that so just

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bundling a previous game together with a

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new game that's going to be fantasy form

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and spaceship coming to you from F from

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button shy games uh as usual Buton shy

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usually say the same thing every single

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time their campaigns are often the

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cheapest way to get your hands on it is

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usually backing on the crowdfunding

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campaign but if you're looking for WEA

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it hold this value almost always not the

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nature of paying for shipping getting

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your hands on a small GA game by the

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time you get it and then turn it around

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and sell it and whatnot usually these

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things are better off being uh gifted or

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just sold for really really cheap to

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just deal with the headache off your get

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off your list of stuff to do uh usually

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you're not going to be getting your much

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money back on these button shy games uh

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if you're selling a whole package your

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bundle it's a little easier it's just

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the work to reward on these is usually

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not worth it as much so if you're focus

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is on getting at the cheapest price

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point though then yes getting on

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crowdfunding is very EAS it's the

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easiest way to get all the stuff you

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want at a good price point because they

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usually give you a little bit of savings

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on this uh little mini expansion packs

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moving on we have the presence of

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Victoria Victorian horror board Gam

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1481 backers 6 days to go $86,000 raised

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the presence is an interesting game

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because it's either Cooperative or semi-

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cooperative and you don't really know

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until you're playing it you see the

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players are playing as the actual spirit

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in the game who may or may not be on

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your side and then the players who are

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trying to align towards the spirits

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goals or cards or whatnot in the game as

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you wander around the Mansion now the

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tricky part of that as you go through

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this over here is you don't know the

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spir you don't know which Spirit you've

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gotten you don't know if the spirit is

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on your side as you play this game or

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not because if the spirit is working

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against you well then it's a sort of

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some cooptive as you go through it you

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have a lot of a lot of players who are

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on the same team but not so much on the

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spirit side versus the spirit might be

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working towards your best interest and

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you just don't know so it's either fully

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cooptive or not and you don't have that

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information and the spirit can't really

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just directly go out and tell you in the

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game so it's an interesting twist as far

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as how the game works and I'm curious to

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see how that is balanced around the game

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State because you have to have the

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players who are playing it have to have

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they have the tension of not knowing how

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things are playing out but ultimately

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you either have an ally or you don't

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have an Aly which is a totally different

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shift but very fascinating concept and

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idea in the presence over here the

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pledge levels are going to be $56 for

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the presents and then you know a retail

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pledge to get a bunch of other things if

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you want a bunch of other things that's

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going to be the pledge levels of here as

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far as should you back as should you not

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we'll hold this value so far is doing

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fairly well, 1400 backers does mean that

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there's likely going to be a retail

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presence on this

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game not a guaranteed to be clear but

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usually with a game usually when a game

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has several like over thousand backers

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there's a stronger chance that it will

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find some sort of retail partnership or

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presence because that's enough of an

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indicator of demand which means you can

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probably expect to see this at some

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point the question is the when in the

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how and that goes back to the $56 plus

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shipping means you are looking at a okay

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price point honestly an amazing price

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point kind of depends on a bunch of

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factors from will hold this value in the

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second half Market which I'm skeptical

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it will and then what will the retail

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presence be like retail presence the

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retail presence I just that's funny the

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retail presence be like because the

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retail presence is going to be a big

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factor in terms of whether this is just

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cheaper at all or able to get your hands

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in it so instinctively it falls into

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that category of if you're just

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concerned about put the fomo and all

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that by all means back it but if I if

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you're looking for whether it's the best

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way to get your hands on it let not but

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you're obviously taking a risk that you

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know that maybe you're wrong and maybe

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it doesn't show up maybe it's hard to

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get your hands in it those things are

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always risk to take and you have to be a

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responsible person when you go ahead and

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choose what to back or not to

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back then we have the candy Hunters

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candy hunters and smart Flamingo this is

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275 backers 9,000 raise so far candy

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Hunters is a little uh tile moving game

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you try to create patterns and uh get

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yourself scare off the various uh kids

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and whatnot in this game kind of reminds

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me of I don't remember what it's called

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but there was that like last year

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Halloween time on Kickstarter there's

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another game that kind of had a like a

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very lighter theme with ghosts and candy

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and Halloween and trick-or-treating was

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it called trick- or- treat was it was

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that was it called I don't remember I

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mean I know Med covered on the channel

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so there's that but I don't remember the

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name of the game but either way kind of

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reminds me of that like you just have

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this like little kind of last minute pop

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up from a first time creator with a you

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know art that could be AI I have no idea

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I have no idea if this AI art the tricky

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part nowadays is even I feel bad even

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saying could be AI because could be AI

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could be nothing it also could not be AI

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but it has that like slightly more

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cartoonized thing where that more Caron

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look it does fit more normally into an

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AI style but again I have no idea I

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shouldn't have even said anything I

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should not have said anything because I

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just don't know and I don't want to I

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don't want to get them in trouble by

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saying something that out of the blue

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but either way it just gives me similar

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Vibes to those two games that's my point

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cuz the last game had AI That's why I

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was thinking that so it gives me similar

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Vibes as far as this like like popup

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game that just shows up and whatnot not

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this is not in any way a ding against

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the game by the way on the slightest I

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just find it interesting this little

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like kind of just two cute little

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Halloween games that are much lighter

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than you typically find on crowdfunding

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but finding Their crowdfunding audience

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nonetheless from two different companies

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anyways that's going to be candy Hunters

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over here get some stretch goals over

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here some Advanced pattern cards some

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pumpkin upgrades solo puzzles all of

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that they have their other games as well

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so they do have these other games either

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an AI SP space puzzle game we have all

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those and then we have the candy Hunters

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all in all that stuff with expansion

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content for the game as well uh but as

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far as Pledge levels pledge levels are

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going to be over here if I can find them

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we have the rewards we have the uh Allin

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set for3 35 we have the Cy Hunters base

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game for โ‚ฌ17 and then once you factor in

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shipping on those that's going to be the

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big part because uh the availability in

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this one's going to be likely less

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available so if you want to get your

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hands on the game you don't want to miss

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out on it yes by all means go ahead and

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back it but if you're looking for a game

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that will hold its value again probably

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not in this one the price point where

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there the extra shipping and all that

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and the demand I just don't think that's

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all going to combine to a game that

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holds its value down the road I think

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this one of those thing people see

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something shiny and fun and crowdfunding

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they go ahead and back it and it's going

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to be harder to go ahead and convince

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somebody to part the part with that same

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amount of money down the road uh if it's

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not a game for you moving on we have

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invent of sell Tigers $296,000 raise

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3700 backers we have N9 days to go on

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this one coming to from Shield from garl

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games invent of the South Tigers

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continues the uh Wayfair Scholars and

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inventors Trilogy all revolving around

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dice to some degree this series this

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particular series from shm Phillips from

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garle games uh this one is very much

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focused around the dice manipulation or

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different ways to utilize dice uh

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Brothers murf have a fantastic video in

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general about murf do fantastic roundups

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showing you how to play different games

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in short you know 5 to 10 minute

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Snippets I think it's like a six minute

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snipp snippet this time but either way

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if you want to get a full feel of how to

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play with a lot more detail highly

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recommend checking out that video the p

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that this completes the trilogy we can

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expect to see various expansions for

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their games I assume and then as far as

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the YB back now very typical thing from

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Garfield games they don't focus on fomo

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they don't focus on anything other than

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hey there's a good reason to support us

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especially if you're International

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there's often a much harder to get your

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hands on our games and so this kind of

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gives you everything all at once but

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that also means their price points

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usually aren't the best if you are

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someone who has access to a you know an

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online us retailer with a cheaper price

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points usually their campaigns are not

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the best price point for that market

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their Camp points are a better price

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point for international people who have

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a harder time getting their hands in the

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game as as well as those who just want

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to get their hands on the game early or

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support a Creator who is not engaging in

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any foro practices who's just like hey

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I'm making a game here's the game here's

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a reasonable price point not the best

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price point he has a promo pack to

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incentivize you to go ahead and get it

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but past that you're paying a little

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more for the game and a little more for

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shipping so it is what it is again it

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falls into that category it's just one

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of those tricky balances to get right

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because crowdfunding has to appeal to

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all markets and that means that to some

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extent it might be a better deal for

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some markets and a worse deal for other

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markets when you're doing that uh I will

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say though if you are interested in

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getting the kickstarter packs for all

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their other games for their previous

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games in the uh South tiger series they

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have those available as well so you

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could go ahead and put together to

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bundle whatever it is you want or need

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so if you're looking for you know if you

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already found your hand if you already

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got your hands on Wafers or Scholars and

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you want the extra fun little goodies

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that might be the thing you need to push

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yourself over the edge over here to back

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this project and get the extra

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Kickstarter packs from the previous

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campaigns to go ahead and round things

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out so again not a lot of fomo going on

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here ultimately comes down to you want

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it do you not and price point wise you

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can definitely wait and get your hands

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out later it will have a wide retail

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avail ility their games always do

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because they are incredibly popular they

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do incredibly well garl games for many

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companies is like an instab back at this

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point and so uh that's what we have over

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here for inventors of the sou tigers

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from garel games then we have atherstone

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from Thunder Griff games an evolving

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card game designed designed by virgin G

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Gile and Simone illustrated by Pao voto

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coming to you from uh from Thunder Griff

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games over here who have done a bunch of

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campaigns but I think they're the one

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that they're most famous for nowadays is

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Darwin's Journey which has gotten rave

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reviews across the board uh but we have

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over here etherstone which is going to

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be a sevenard drafting game you're going

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to draft seven cards with tons of

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combinations while focusing on the best

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way to achieve your victory points the

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concept of that sounds very appealing

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the cards themselves I will say I'm

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interested and yet not sure about this

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game I love the idea of drafting cards

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in general I love the idea of a wide

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variety of putting together the things

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that work towards your favor if you've

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ever played Seasons it kind of has that

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vibe to me where you're like you're just

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trying to get the cars that work towards

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your engine and I love Seasons so if

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this is anything like Seasons I could

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find myself loving that but just looking

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at the cards I'm not sure if I find it

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to be I'm not sure if I would find to be

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incredibly rewarding in the way

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everything comes together or perhaps a

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little fiddly I don't know I'm just this

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is all purely judgment from the call

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from looking at the cards I I don't

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actually have not played the game yet I

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have a vague idea of how to play it but

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I have not played the game myself this

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is more I'm interested I'm definitely

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the target audience to some degree and

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I'm also not a completely soulle target

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audience at least not yet but interested

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definitely an interested target audience

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we have the either Zone base game over

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here for โ‚ฌ30 we have the deluxe edition

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for 55 year which going to give you the

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physical copy of the game wooden and

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metal Deluxe components and all the

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unlock stress goals the base game and

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Deluxe we have the council bundle for 90

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giving you those extra the dice trade

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the play mats and all that added in and

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that's what we have over here for your

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pledge levels as far as should you back

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should you not will it holds this value

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let's scroll down to shipping shipping

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is going to add on to that as well uh

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looking at Zone a over here with the us

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over there you're looking at basically

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14 added on to the cost of your pledge

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whatever it is if it's depending you

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know base game deluxe edition Delux is

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going to be1 16 the counil is going to

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be โ‚ฌ20 so you have to factor all those

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in because that's not a small amount of

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extra being added to the cost of your

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game which factors into the showy backa

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show you backa sh you not will hold this

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value I'm skeptical it will and it's

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hard to say because if you look at

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Thunder Griff's games they are a mix

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they are a large mix if you look at

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their games and how well they've done

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the secondhand Market some of them them

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have done tremendously well others less

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so so it's definitely more of a question

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mark at the end of the day I'm skeptical

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this will just based on the type of game

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it is and just whether it will have that

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that that Mass Appeal or not and I'm a

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little bit more skeptical it will but

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their games have been all over the place

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so I could absolutely be wrong in this

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some of their games like spirits of the

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forest always surprises me how well that

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one does on the second hand market so I

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could definitely be wrong with this one

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I will say matter what you'll definitely

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will have the opportunity to get your

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hands on this game in one form or

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another the only question is whether you

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back it on crowdfunding now possibly

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paying a little more possibly paying a

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little less than it'll be down the road

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or you got it down the road and possibly

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pay a little bit more a little bit less

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than what it would have been on

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crowdfunding either way you go you're

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taking a small degree of risk and it's

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not the end of the world and then of

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course is a second Market especially if

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you're trying to get all those

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crowdfunding goodies so again this is

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really just a question about you know

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where are you going to pay a little bit

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more and it is a bit of a question mark

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either way uh because thunder thunder

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griffs games have been they've had a

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wide degree of how well they've been

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received Ely moving on we have Roth from

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Chip 3 games $395,000 rais 3,480 backers

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11 days to

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go designed and illustrated by Manny

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trimley uh this is going to be designer

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who's co-designer of dice Throne as well

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as you know a bunch of other stuff as

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well uh but we have over here Roth which

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is going to be an area control game for

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one to four players with a uh neon neon

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a glaring neon design that some people

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absolutely love and others have uh

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referred to as it looks like a unicorn

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threw up on their game board and

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honestly I get both of those cams the

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first time I saw this board the first

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time I saw it I was like is that a

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prototype and then later I kind of came

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together more and more I was like you

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know what I actually kind of like the

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vibe I like the the the the the very

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neon daylow Vibe going on here I

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actually appreciate it which is funny

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because I I never liked it in um what

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was the game oh my gosh Dinosaur Island

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Dinosaur Island I never like that Vibe

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over there but over here I am I am I'm

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into the vibe but either way I'm

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focusing too much on how the game looks

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not how the game plays you you can check

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out my review on the channel you can

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check out a bunch of game plays of you

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know that I believe there's solo gamep

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plays out there as well but there's solo

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there's Co-op there's uh competitive

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game plays there's review content you

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can check out a ton of information about

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the game this is going to be a $55 for

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the game over here if you want the uh

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the game over here $55 for it you're

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also going to have a bunch of extras you

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can get your hands on so we have over

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here it's going to be a like I said a

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chip Theory it's going to be a chip

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Theory game but not actually utilizing

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chips instead it's going to be utilizing

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Dice and tokens over here the dice are

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going to be your customized unique

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Warriors that each faction has and the

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tokens are going to be well the tokens

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your extra regular units you have on the

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game although each faction has their own

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unique name for those regular units lots

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of stuff with the gameplay over here

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basically area control trying to get

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points trying to take control of regions

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scoring at the end of each round uh

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drafting dice to drive those actions

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you're going to be drafting dice every

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round that are going to allow you to

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reinforce to add units to move around

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the board to move all to gather um Kora

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I think the resources called in the game

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you're going to get K so a lot of things

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going on as far as this General gameplay

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itself and then we have solo and Co-op

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as well which I have not played yet but

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I'm hoping to table before the campaign

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is over we had 11 days left was that

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what it was I make no guarantees but

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I'll see what I can do

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past that we have the the various pledge

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levels $55 for the base game over here

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we have the gamep playay Allin for $86

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over here that's going to give you the

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base game plus the two additional

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factions we have the Roth Allin for $246

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yes that is a hefty price point it's

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also a decent amount of people have

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pledge that one that's going to come you

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come to you with the base game the two

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um the two expansions it's going to come

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to you with the uh the dice tray all

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these metal metal bits over there so

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those um little units effectively the

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units you have in the game all converted

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to metal and then we also have these art

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prints for the various factions in the

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game those going to be added on to here

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so if you're looking for the cheapest

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way to get your hands on absolutely

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everything that is going to give you the

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best price point because going to give

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you bundle savings not necessarily worth

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it because you're going to a whole lot

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more things I mean chip 3 is offering an

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affordable game relative to the other

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titles right now it's a fast- playing

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game easy on the rules uh you know very

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different art style this is everything

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about this game is different than your

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typical chip Theory offering and no way

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does it share like any similarities with

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anything they've done except for like I

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guess there a premium game it's got Neo

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mats that's got that aspect but in all

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aspects they're making it very different

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than way you typically expect to see

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from Chip Theory but it also means you

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can go you can still spend $246 to get

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everything or you can try to just go

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ahead and get the $55 for the this the

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stuff you need bunch of stretch goals

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and all those things being unlocked we

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have the art prints I want to show you

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some of these actually let's show you

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the uh the full range over here so we

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have these metal art prints over here a

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full range of metal art prints with the

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sizing of uh 7.75 x 12 metal prints uh

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which look great these over here I've

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actually have a few metal prints that

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I've been meaning to hang up and maybe

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I'll try to we'll see we'll see what

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happens I am moving at some point so I

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don't want to spend too much time

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messing with this set but maybe when I

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finally have the new set the new new set

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there's the new set and then there's the

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new new set when I get to the new new

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set maybe I'll start playing around with

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some of these ball prints cuz I have

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like I have one for stalker I have some

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from Andrew Bosley and these over here

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would be a beautiful addition to add on

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to them anyways that's all the stuff

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going on over here which means which

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means what else do we have over here we

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have that's what we got that's what we

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got so should you back or should you not

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we'll hold to Value all that stuff so

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like um like garfall games before them

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chip 3 generally does not engage in fomo

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their stuff is always available the only

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question is price points so basically

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you can usually get a little bit of a

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savings by backing on cra funing or you

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can wait and get it down the road

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whenever you want so there's no major

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Foo here if you are unsure in any way I

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recommend just waiting get it down the

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road whatever you might you might pay

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$10 $15 more because you will pay it

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well depends if you're looking for those

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bundled Allin stuff you will get a lot

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more of a savings there nothing is

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exclusive still but you will get more of

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a savings on if you're getting a bunch

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of the extra stuff that is completely

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unnecessary but if you're just looking

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at the core game experiences or the core

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gameplay experiences with the expansions

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and all that uh then at that point you

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could get on crowdfunding you will save

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a little bit of money compared to retail

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down the road but or you can just wait

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for retail down the road and just get

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you get it directly from Chip 3's

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website it's worth calling out because

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at one point I cross where it says $55

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instead of $65 MSRP and because usually

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I poke at those things I'm like $65 MSRP

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that means it's going to be $50 down the

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road usually that's true in the case of

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Chip Theory they don't really have a lot

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of retail Partnerships they really focus

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in selling it from the website which

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means I think 20 strong is the only

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exception they're starting to have that

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in retail but that does mean that 55

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vers 65 is an actual representation of

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savings over there so they actually will

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save money by backing it on crowdfunding

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you might save only $10 for the core set

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but the more stuff you buy the more

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you're saving but it's just a small

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amount of money you're not looking at a

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mass of savings the only other question

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mark is when you're between print runs

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you're between print runs there's only

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so much chip there you can do between

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print runs and so that's when you might

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see the market Spike on these games but

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I think that in general if you know you

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want it and you know you're going to get

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it get it on crowdfunding uh as far as

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holding its value likely still will but

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not by a huge margin again if you're

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just getting the base game if you're

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only really saving $10 then the only way

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you can really like get your money back

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fully on that is if you're waiting for

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between print runs when the game goes up

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in price point and people want your copy

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so there's not a massive amount of

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secondhand Market conversation here on

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this one at least the base game alone uh

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but if you are interested in this go

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ahead and back it if you know you're

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going to get it anyway and if you're

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unsure the savings might not be enough

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to push you over the edge moving on we

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have Nexus offs Nexus not Nexus offs

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different game entirely Nexus

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unsanctioned big box expansion $47,000

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raised 32 321 backers 11 days to

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go this is an expansion to Nexus Arena I

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want to call I want to say Nexus Arena

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over there which is basically a game of

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a skirmish game of just you know blade

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saws and spikes and death traps you're

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basically in an arena that's constantly

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trying to kill you as much as the other

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players are in the Skirmish game and

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it's going to be an expansion to the

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table over here this is the unsanctioned

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expansion $90 over here $20 off that

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retail price point and this one does

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have low retail availability so there is

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a factor in that as well we have the

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born game bundle for $210 giving you the

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original base game plus the expansion

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and then the the roleplay bundle which

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adds the legacy mode for $250 and then

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you have the Allin bundle for $400 the

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basically hey I want absolutely

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everything from the deluxe board to the

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metal coins to the aluminum coins I

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believe all the various things for this

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game and yes by the way the Miniatures

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come prepainted I know you didn't ask

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that but in case you did ask that the

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Miniatures on this game come prepainted

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but like I said already this is

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basically a skirmish game a skirmish

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game is going to have an arena and a

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battlefield trying to kill you it's been

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around for quite some time it's had

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campaigns on Kickstarter it's had

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campaigns on gamefound uh for what it's

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worth For Better or For Worse the

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creator has been very focused on trying

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to make this the best experience he can

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and continuously adding and developing

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and just you know having this available

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as something that he's trying to you

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know continuously support and add more

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more content for and bring it around to

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your table in different ways that's

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going to be the next over here as far as

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should you back as should you not will

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hold its value looking at second Market

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it doesn't seem like it does hold its

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value so far just looking around and

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there are I think I saw like one players

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that did sell for more than its value

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more than what it cost but in general

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this is one this is an expensive game

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definitely has some it has done decently

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on crowdfunding but I am skeptical it

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will hold its value it's an expensive

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game and while there is definitely is

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some there's not necessarily enough to

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support it doing as well as you would

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like as well as the Creator would like

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on the second hand market so if you back

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this one it's not likely one that you're

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going to get your money back if it's not

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a game for you moving on we have crust

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over coffee from gay Barett $20,000

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raised 886 backers 11 days to go this

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continues gay Barrett's solo game of the

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month which I believe he started last

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month with uh Nissan cruso is that what

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it was Nissan Nissan cruso I think

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something like

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that coffee is not bad for coffee that's

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like lukewarm at this point not even

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lukewarm it's basically

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cold we have crust of a coffee which by

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the way highly recommend checking out

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the video on this one video is

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fantastically well done gay Barrett does

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the videos himself but if if you're

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looking for a dash of humor as well as

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some explanation on the gameplay uh this

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one has you covered but the basic idea

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is you have quests because you have

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quests because you want coffee and you

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need to pay for coffee with points that

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will give you the quest that the quest

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will give you points for it's it's a

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whole thing Quest and coffee so you're

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basically going to go ahead and uh have

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a bunch of quests you're going to have

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various allies and items that going to

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help you along the way you're going to

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roll dice and mitigate those dice with

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luck items and allies along the way

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that's the idea of that's basically

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everything you need to do now the basic

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original game of this is uh basically a

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beat your own score kind of game

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although as Gabe covers in the video he

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doesn't like that he likes games where

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you can win or lose which is so much my

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jam I can't stand beat your own score

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games I'll do them once and I'll be like

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that was good enough could I get 72

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instead of 71 next time maybe am I going

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to try nope I don't care I like games

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where you can win or lose in this game

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they've made tweaks to it they've added

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that aspect so if you want to beat your

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own score you can do so if you want a

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win or lose kind of mechanic they have

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that aspect in there as well while

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maintaining the same basic core gameplay

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style this is part of Gab Barrett's

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Barrett publishing solo game of the

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month Series where they're going to be

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doing every single month a pick it out a

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solo game that's have a few common

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denominators that are all relevant to

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whether you should or shouldn't back it

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because if you scroll down past the

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Charming artwork down over here we have

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the game is at least 99% finished

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there's no stretch goals no add-ons the

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game is a limited edition that will not

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be available at retail which is relevant

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manufacturing begin immediately and the

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game will ship back to backers directly

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from China that's going to be the

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combination aspect of the solo game

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series of the month Chip is going to run

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you around $5 there is a print and play

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option if you want that but past that

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the game itself is going to I believe

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it's $20 let me see if I can find that

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over there I believe it's $20 for the

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game $24 for the game and that's where

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it's going to come into the uh should

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you back should you're not will hold its

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value initially it's I'm skeptical that

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it will this is kind of very similar to

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the um button shy model the main thing

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it has going against it relative to the

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btsh model is the games are more

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expensive the main thing has going

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forward compared to the buty model is

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the games are theoretically not going to

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be available at retail meaning there is

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some more of a sense of urgency of if

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you do want it get your hands on it now

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because it may not be available down the

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road I don't know what his plans are for

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print runs and you know future stuff

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maybe at the end of every year he'll do

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a best of solo series and like you know

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three or four the best I don't know I

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don't know what the plans are I think

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there is for a conversation where these

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games are supported even if they don't

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have a retail support and I think that'

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be fun because it' be a shame to see

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games go uh you know never yet reprinted

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if they are received well when they land

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but either way uh that is the main

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factor as far as whether you should back

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it because these games again they're

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cheaper games that there's a lot of

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other competition in the market that are

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available at a more affordable price

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point which has me a little skeptical

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that it holds its value the only

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question mark is any of these games in

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the solo month solo game of the month

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club that that come out that are

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incredibly well received and are not

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otherwise available until who knows when

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that's when you'll find people who are

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paying you know 40 bucks to get your

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hands on the game because they've heard

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so many good things and there just are

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no other options so skeptical holds

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value but there always is that long shot

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aspect when a game is received well

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moving on we have flasho Legacy of flame

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,800 backers $167,000 raise 11 days to

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go this is flasho Legacy basically

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that's what it is it's flasho but Legacy

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you can check out my first impressions

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on the channel and it's just First

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Impressions because I got the first

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three scenarios to go through which

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gives me a limited degree of scope of

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seeing how this is going to iterate the

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very short version is I like flasho I

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like what Flashpoint Legacy does but I

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don't know if I've been as Blown Away in

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the first three games relative to how I

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felt about like you know other game

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systems that were Legacy games so Legacy

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is always like I like it I like the

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Legacy system but there Legacy always

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adds something more to the game the

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question is how much more does it add

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and so far I'm intrigued but I'm not

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blown away yet will I happily play

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through the whole thing absolutely I

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will uh am I Blown Away the way I was

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with like pandemic Legacy or took ride

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Legacy not quite there at least not yet

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but over here we have uh we have flash

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point Legacy of lame $59 for the base

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game over here plus all the various

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milestones and there are small s you can

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get over here and this will have a

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retail presence as well so if you want

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to get it retail well there's reasons to

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get on crowdfunding but a price point is

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not that reason the reason is going to

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be supporting the Creator getting it

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early or the various extras because

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price point is not the reason we have

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flash point Legacy of flame plus fire

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rescue so $89 versus 59 so basically be

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$30 extra to get your hands on flasho

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now now it's a relevant thing over here

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because right now I believe if you go on

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Mini Market you can get flas point for

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$28 instead of an additional $30 but

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it's worse than that because they also

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charge you an additional $10 for the

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shipping so the shipping goes up by $10

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if you get the Fire Rescue Base game as

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well so you're basically paying $12 more

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to get flasho now as opposed to getting

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it online if you have a miniature Mar

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Market order lined up and honestly

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between this and what was the other game

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we had between this and um oh my gosh

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wise um wise and wizard Wizard and wise

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whatever it was between these two games

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you're already you're halfway towards

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your $100 order if you want those but

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yeah that's the I'd say if you want

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flasho I do recommend flasho it doesn't

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seem like this campaign is the best way

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to get handson flasho now I did not

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break that out for all these itemized

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expansions over here and that's where it

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might be a little bit more reason to get

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over here Legacy of flame plus fire

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rescue expansions might be a bit more

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reason primarily because of the fact

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that well they may not all be available

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at whatever store you're trying to get

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your hands in them there so limited

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availability might make that the better

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option if you're getting everything but

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if it's just there for the base game i'

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skip that then we have the all the new

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stuff that's going to give you flash

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point Legacy of flame plus it's going to

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give you neop player boards plus it's

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going to give you uh the boards all the

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various boards you can face off in this

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game are going to be a full meta full

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cardboard boards basically they

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currently have a flip book situation and

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if you want a full cardboard board well

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you have access to that I believe these

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are all new maps for legacy of flame I

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don't even know if you could use them

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with regular flasho I I I hope so I hope

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you can like that would be a good way of

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just adding more content to your regular

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flash point Universe especially if you

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get all these nice boards so like that

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almost makes the price of the game like

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worth it for that stuff alone if you're

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a hardcore flasho player anyways as far

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as flasho flash point is basically a

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game where you're firefighters you're

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trying to basically R Bu from burning

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building you're trying to keep the

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flames in check while rescue various

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people and every single turn you do good

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stuff with your action economy and then

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you roll dice and see how the fire

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explodes and spreads across the board

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that's basically the idea standard

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cooperative play I don't mean that in a

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bad way it's a good game it's been

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around for quite some time it's

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evidenced by very very young Rodney

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Smith over here on this video and that's

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basically flasho one of the first games

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I ever backed on quickstarter was a

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flasho game I used to back all the

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flasho stuff way back when way before I

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fell down the kickstarter Rabbit Hole

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there were a few games I backed from

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Alien Frontiers to flasho so uh yeah

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I've been around for I've been I've been

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following this I've been a fan of the

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game system for a very very long time

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before before they even had Miniatures

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for their firefighters that's when I got

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on board anyways we have all these

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various extras being added all these are

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the the the optional buys you have the

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Milestones being added so you have a

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metal coin for the scratch off stuff in

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style you various other cars and

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Equipment specialist and other stuff

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from Indie boards and cards universes

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over here in their games so lots of fun

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things being added and the shipping

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thing is the main thing you want to pay

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attention to over here it's $20 shipping

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for the base game plus $30 if you want

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flash point Legacy of flame $40 if you

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want that you have to keep in mind where

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the extra things are being added because

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again that base game seems like it's

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only $30 more but it's really an extra

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$40 more because of the shipping cost

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increase so do all that math as well and

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see what makes sense for you as far as

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back you're not will hold this value

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it's a legacy game so the Legacy the

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holding F secondary Market is a little

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less relevant the main question is just

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retail Now versus uh retail later versus

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crowdfunding now and to that end you do

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get some extras by backing on

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crowdfunding now I don't know if those

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extras are inherently worth it I think

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instinctively I think not by time you

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factor in what the will be down the road

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uh the fact you're paying extra $20

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shipping for it now as well

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instinctively I think waiting for retail

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is the better move over here unless you

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really care about some of those extras

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like hey that that metal coin could be

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fun is it worth the extra $20 or what

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not that you're paying I don't know if

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it is but then you factor in all the

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other stretch goals I think it really

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comes down to what kind of value you get

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from those extra stret goals versus the

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relative extra that you're paying for it

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moving on we have Base by 2045 basis

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loaded Edition plus new Allstar

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expansion that's a mouthful of an aim

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coming to you from Eagle Griffin games

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it's basically baseball highlights uh re

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not reload well reload it's all the

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stuff all the stuff baseball highlights

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being put together over here we have

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$444,000 raised 864 backers 11 days left

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to go on this one baseball highlights is

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basically taking you all the various

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stuff with some tweaks they are doing

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some they giving you a lot more starter

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sets but they're uh you know getting rid

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of some of the older stuff they have a

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whole note as far as what's compatible

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and what's gone and all that this game

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has been available for quite some time

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now we've been around for a while it

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basically consists of a bunch of little

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mini games which players are going to

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build a little uh you know team of like

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you know offensively defensively while

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they go ahead and compete with little

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mini gamess and see who wins the game uh

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that's basically baseball highlights

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they have a two-player in case in fact

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if you want to try this out uh game

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nerds I think has a um game ner has like

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the starter set available for like $10

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in fact Eagle Griffin games on the

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website has a starter set available for

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like $5 I think but I don't know what

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the shipping difference is there and I

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assume your chance of getting to $100

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order on game ners is higher than at

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Eagle Griffin games but in case you're

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interested in trying out the uh spring

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fever I think it's called spring fever

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those are available very cheaply if you

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want to check those out and just get a

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sense of what the game is like

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alternatively you can just back in our

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crowdfunding over here as far as should

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you back as should you not will it hold

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its value instinctively I think not it's

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hard to say for sure baseball highlights

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is a popular enough game and there's a

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ton of copies of the game out there on

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the second Market the biggest question

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is trying to hunt down the right things

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I think this new version will have more

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and relative to the older versions

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because again it's relatively affordable

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so even though it's kind of putting all

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the things together it's you know adding

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new stuff getting rid of old stuff and

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here's the newest version of it at the

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end of the day the price point at it is

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pretty decent so I think there'll be

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some degree of demand for it the tricky

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part is if it's $48 if it's $48 from $60

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price point once you factor in the

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shipping on that as well I just don't

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think you're saving enough for it to be

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I think it'll be cheaper down the road

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just buying it from you know game nerds

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or Ministry Market whatever so it's not

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that I think it's a bad price point it's

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not that I think it won't be in demand I

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think this just be easier to get your

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hands on it down the road I think the

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retail availability will be a little bit

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too easy so likely a pass on this one

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moving on we have Geck deluxe edition

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plus new promo cards we still got coffee

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left 281 backers 13 days to go $7,300

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raise so far this is an older title that

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uh this is an older title from um from a

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peacekeeper games and it represents a

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bunch of extra stock they have in fact

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it's worth mentioning because I usually

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call out the whole limited pledge thing

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which is mostly gone by this point

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fortunately but the limited pledges you

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see over here are actually limited

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they're not little gimmicks because

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basically you're looking at over here is

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you're looking at extra copies of

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gearworks that have been around for

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quite some time that you can go ahead

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and get your hands on them you can get

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your hands on the base game you can

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hands on the deluxe game you can get

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your hands on the playmat there are some

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extra promo cards that have been preed

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for this campaign so you can get your

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hands on those as well in fact a lot of

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people have been just buying those so

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you have the two promo cards for $34 and

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they have the three promo cards for $6

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the reason for that by the way is cuz

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one of these promo cards was previously

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available so because of that in order to

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not force you to buy something you don't

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need he did this two promo cards for

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those who already have the the Tantrum

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house promo over here but past that the

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basic idea of the game is going to be a

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Sudoku style card Lan system you're

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placing cards down into a grid you're

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trying to control for you're trying to

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get sparks from the way you place Cards

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into the grid based on how numbers add

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or subtract to your central number but

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you're also trying to take control of

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rows or columns to get the various

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components you need to be able to go

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ahead and trade those components in for

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the uh Contraptions that you trying to

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build every single turn do that across

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three rounds and do that so do that

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slightly better than other players while

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restricting the uh restrictions while

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respecting the restrictions of the board

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that's the main Little Hook over there

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because you have to respect the

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restrictions because you can't play your

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cards you can't play the same color in

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the same column and they have to play

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the cards in ascending left to right

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order either or you once they you kind

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of Define an order from highest to

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lowest or lowest to highest on each row

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and so you're trying to respect multiple

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restrictions while using your Sparks to

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avoid those restrictions and or Draw new

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cards new Contraptions and figure out

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your way forward in the game you can

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check out my review on the channel you

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can check out a bunch of other content

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from other channels as well but that's

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the basic idea of the game the price

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point on the game is very affordable

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over here we have $23 for the standard

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game plus playmat of course shipping as

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well we have $27 for the deluxe light

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game plus playm Deluxe light I think

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just means it doesn't have the slip

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cover but has everything else I believe

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and then we have over here we have the

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standard game plus playm we have the

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deluxe game plus playm are these all

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gone no we still have left we still have

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left on these although maybe not now I'm

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not sure this says pledge but it's gray

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out that's interesting is that temporary

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thing give me a second here let me just

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refresh the page over here because I

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thought those worked earlier but that

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might have changed oh no verifying I'm

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human give me a second

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Kickstarter definitely human is scroll

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down no they're grayed out I don't know

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what's up with that I don't know what's

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up with that anyways so some of those

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not available anymore okay well uh past

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that as far as should you back or should

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you not will hold this value uh your

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options to get your this basically right

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now are the secondhand Market or this

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campaign for the most part this game

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does not have any uh long availability

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it's been around for quite some time

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it's an older game and you're dealing

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with some Overstock over here I will

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say sorry I will say that as far as the

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second maret goes you can see you can

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see copies of the game going for less

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than this already so I'm skeptical it

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will hold its value on the secondary

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Market if it's not a game for you moving

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on we have under our sun from tabl

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topper games 85,000 567 backers 15 days

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left to go under our sun is a

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Cooperative or semi-cooperative

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experience that takes place in the

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post-apocalyptic World a very Dune

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adjacent World although it actually kind

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of reminds me of waste nights

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thematically speaking if you ever played

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waste nights but basically in the game

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you're going have a bunch of characters

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you're going to have your own goal

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you're going to have your goals that

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you're going for you're either playing

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cooperatively or semi- cooperatively in

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the game while you wander around and try

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to gather your things and complete your

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goals and the different missions you'll

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be going on in the game The Pledge

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levels for the game are going to be

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let's see if we can scroll down and find

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them over here pledge levels for the

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game if we can we I think Skip past the

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pledge levels so we have shipping for

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the game it's going to be 10 to18 for

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the base game over here but it goes all

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the way up to 1622 for uh for the all-in

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pledge and the pledge levels are going

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to be over here 85 for the combo pledge

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67 for the core pledge and 125 for the

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solar storm pledge the base game as this

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is a one to four player experience but

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as you add character packs you could

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enhance the I believe you can enhance it

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to five to six player experiences from

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those then we have a miniature pack as

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well so if you want to get extra

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Miniatures to represent your various

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well Miniatures in the game that's all

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going to be available there and we have

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Allin play for โ‚ฌ47 for the game and a

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bunch of various stretch goals from

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Miniatures to dice over here Karma dice

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the custom Traer insert all these

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various things have been added Deluxe

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box all those fun stuff for the game as

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far as should you back as sure you not

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will hold its value I'm skeptical it

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will the game looks pretty decent

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overall there's definitely mean 85,000

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from a first- Time Creator doing totally

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fine 567 backers they definitely found

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an audience but I think that they

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haven't found enough of an audience and

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I think this is one of those games that

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is doing well enough in crowdfunding but

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I think the retail presence or

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availability will probably be limited

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and I think that um I think that you'll

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have a hard time getting people to pay

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those prices down the road once the

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crowdfunding is over this one falls into

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those ranges where it's like hey if you

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want to support the Creator if you want

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to guarantee your copy by all means but

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otherwise I'm not seeing a strong enough

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reason to back this one right now we

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have Vil F tribunal we have 4,800 4,800

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backers $649,000 raised of a $50,000

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goal 15 days to go Veil fate comes back

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to CR in from IV games from Ivy Studio

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this time beinging you a tribunal

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expansion there's a whole lot of

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delifus on the very high notes over here

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Veil fate is a strategic deduction game

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the basic idea is you are controlling a

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demigod but no one else knows which

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demigod you're controlling you're trying

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to ensure your demigod wins you're

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trying to be subtle enough that you can

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actually go ahead and finish finish

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cross the finish line without players

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stopping you because they realize you're

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trying to win but you're not so subtle

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that no one realizes who you are because

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you're playing poorly that's the balance

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of the game when you go through it

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that's a general idea at six seven or

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eight players also a team mode where you

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team up with another player and then

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you're both controlling the same demog

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God and you're working together with

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other players but you don't necessarily

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know who you're working with you're

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trying to figure it out cuz if you can

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do so you can help yourself set set up

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your ally for good plays in the game but

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then in the game itself we have the

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tribunal expansion which is going to add

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a bunch of new things now Tri no Manion

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first of all there's this nice little uh

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C metal Castle metal or plastic castle

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in the middle you can goad and get

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hands- on which is a fun little addition

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to the game but we also have tribunal

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expansion is giving you a bunch of

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components we have hria over here who is

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a fun little thing where hria basically

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changes the way way the game plays

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because any player who has more points

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than hria automatically can't win this

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prevents runaway leaders because anytime

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someone gets too far ahead all the other

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players can collectively ensure that

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hadria just doesn't go too far ahead

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herself and contribute to her being on

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top of the game and forcing players down

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which completely changes the game and

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also allows you to be more subtle as you

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play through I have played with the HRI

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expansion I cannot see myself ever

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playing Veil fate without the HRI

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expansion I think it's fantastic I have

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not played with the other expansions so

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I can't speak to that if you haven't you

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haven't seen coverage on this game from

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me because I think ve f is a solid game

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but frankly I don't play it enough right

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now I think it's a game that I enjoy

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most at the higher player counts with

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teams but again I I've generally been

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pretty specific I think Veil fate at

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lower player counts is probably a 3.5

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for me at 3.5 out of five and I think

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veiled fate at a team player count is a

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four is a four for me it's a very solid

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very strong game but I usually would

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only play it at 6 seven or eight which

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is not a player count I get to the table

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that often these days that said HRI is

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fantastic I don't think I'd ever play

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without hria we have the celestial

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expansion which gives you asymmetric

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roles it gives you something totally

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different to focus on in the game where

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you have some of the little puzzle going

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on maybe you're trying to figure out all

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the other players maybe you're trying to

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ensure that certain gods are in the back

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of the track maybe you're trying to

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ensure that you have a a paired God and

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you have one what you have two gods and

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one of them has to be in the top three

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one of the Gods one of them has to be in

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the bottom three you have all these

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different little mini goals that

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completely change the way you play it so

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you have little asymmetric role being

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given to a player in the game totally

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changes the way the game plays and you

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have the three Titans Roman influence

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these are going to be different Titans

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that I have no idea if they do frankly

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but they look cool and I'm sure they do

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fun things in the game because that's

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what Veil fate does that's going through

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the tributal expansion available $49

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over here here with a bunch of free

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add-ons that's going to be your

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Kickstarter well no such thing as free

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but you know taken taken into account in

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the price point as far as past that we

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have the wooden board so a bunch of

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other things going to be added here I

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cannot go through everything this will

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be a very long deep dive in this

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campaign alone but the wooden board is

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back if you want that it's also back

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with a box that can host your wooden

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board we have Deluxe City over here for

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$20 we have a bunch of these over here

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anytime you see that free over here that

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means it's part of the tribunal pack and

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it's technically x amount of dollars but

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instead you're getting it for free as

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part of your tribunal pack as part of

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the extras so we the holographic pack

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over here the Community cards we have

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the Providence expansion the exclusive

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box art we have the adventures expansion

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the make it metal over here so they are

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making some well metal stuff original

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Veil fate had metal Miniatures they have

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those back although if you have the

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original metal Miniatures and you gain

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the expansion you might want to pay an

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extra 20 bucks to get the the original

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met metal Miniatures again because

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they're changing the wash and the look

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so if you want to make them all match

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they have that option they giving you a

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cheaper price point but you still do

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have to pay for that so that's uh you

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know unfortunate but it is what it is we

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have the various all add-ons we have the

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access pass exclusive all that and we

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have you know all that stuff so as far

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as PL levels we have $49 for the

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tribunal expansion plain and simple we

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have the $89 for the tribunal make it

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metal make all the stuff metal in

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tribunal expansion that's going to be

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$89 we have the veil Faith plus Tribunal

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for $125 and then we have Veil Faith

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plus tribunal plus make it metal for $29

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and that's the $29 is not the maximum

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you can pay for this game you can pay

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more for the game if you're trying to

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get absolutely all the stuff for the

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game you can check a fantastic campaign

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video from uh from uh oh my gosh um oh

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my gosh what's it called uh not Austin

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Austin and uh Zach gar Lord I was like I

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want to say Max but Max sounded wrong

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this Austin Sam and Ma Austin Austin Sam

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and Zach I don't know why I'm trying to

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call Zach Max today I feel bad I think

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there is a Max at IV Studios I think

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there is but I could be wrong anyways uh

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that's basically the idea over there

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there's more stuff to go through on the

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campaign there's an absolute ton of

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stuff to scroll through there's tons of

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videos and and testimonials and other

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things you got more things we got the

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the renewal dice I'm not going to focus

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on everything there's so much to go

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through on this campaign we have over

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here we have the upgrade your base game

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you got more medals and more Miniatures

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we have a box for the wooden board over

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here there's so many ways to make this

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completely obnoxious as far as how

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premium and deluxified it is and all of

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it does look very cool it all fits in

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your shelf look at that look at that

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look how look how cool that was you got

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the box for the original base game the

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veiled fate expansion and then the with

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the castle as well that's going to be

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have you have for veiled fate which

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means coffee is done I'm not done

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scrolling that's basically everything we

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got over there that's all the stuff and

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this also designed by um Robert Robert

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Robert let's say Robert designed by

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Robert who did the uh did Moon makers as

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well as has a bunch of games coming up

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from from um what's the company bitewing

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games coming from bitewing games bbop

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Shuffle and swing from bitewing games

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anyways that's basically all the stuff

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there should you back should you not

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will hold its value very short version

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with Veil vate Avail with IV Studios is

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yes most of the stuff will hold its

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value if you are getting on crowdfunding

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usually this stuff does a very good job

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at being expensive and hard to get your

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hands on it and does a generally

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generally very solid job at holding this

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value on the second time Market because

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of the uh price points they give you on

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all the crowdfunding stuff and all the

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extras you can get your hands on over

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here it's a lot of money you do not need

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their game you do not need the most

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premium versions of the games but if you

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do want to get them and you find it's

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not for you usually you can find someone

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who's willing to take you off your hands

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and uh give you what you paid for it

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moving on we have Aro the board game Aro

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the board game from oh I'm saying it

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wrong it's not armo it's like armo arm

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how have you pronounced it the board

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game coming to you from Quicks Studios

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over here 2300 backers 17 days to go uh

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this is basically going to be well it's

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a board game of the video game that was

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inspired by the board game that's

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basically the idea over here now I don't

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know a time about the game over here

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unfortunately but it's basically be some

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degree deck building wandering around

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your kingdom trying to eventually power

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up and take down the king or whatnot uh

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again based on the video game if you've

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played the video game which I have but

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it's been a long time the game looks

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gorgeous I I'll say that the Box looks

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gorgeous the art looks gorgeous the

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components look gorgeous everything here

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looks great I am very intrigued as to

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how well this one plays uh but this

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going to basically be $79 for the uh

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core game over here8 $109 for the deluxe

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edition and then $150 for everything

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arow that's going to be the one that has

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the most backers following that one for

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all the various luif Miniatures look

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great sculpting looks great board looks

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great everything about the game looks

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phenomenal it has me very intrigued to

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dive into this one and frankly I'm

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surprised it's not doing as well I'm

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surprised it's not doing better than

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it's doing like it's doing great it's

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doing totally fine with you know $35,000

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from first time Creator that's great I

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would have thought this had so much more

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appeal although whatever it is what it

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is but again still doing well I just

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would have thought it's doing better

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maybe I thought am was more popular than

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it actually is or maybe this the

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audience hasn't converted for some

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reason I don't really know exactly why

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but ultimately as far as should you back

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should you not will hold its value I

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have a giant question mark on this one

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because everything I'm seeing here makes

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it look premium makes it look like the

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kind of game that does hold its value

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but also I would have thought that I had

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more people following it already which

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means there is some degree of there's

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some degree of drop off in what I

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thought the interest was versus what the

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interest actually is despite how well

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the campaign is doing and that means I

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have the same question mark and

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skepticism as you know hey great it's a

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reasonable price point for a whole lot

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of Premium stuff for a very deluxified

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board game but will that translate into

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people wanting it down the road when it

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shows up and people you know they

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already back with they back they looking

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for the next shiny pretty thing and they

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actually have to figure out what they

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are and aren't playing will this still

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have that same appeal and I just don't

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know unfortunately so I'm putting a

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giant question mark in this one I could

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see A Holdings value I could see it not

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Holdings value it's hard to say hard to

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say on this one but looks very very

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pretty and very shiny I am very

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interested in this game I don't know

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nearly enough about it unfortunately I

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know us try to have a bit more

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information on how the game plays but

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this one I just don't have that

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unfortunately uh so apologies for that

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you can check out a bunch of fantastic

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videos from Dice Tower from before you

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play from a bunch of other channels uh

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if you want to get that information in

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more in detail and that basically brings

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us to the last campaign of the day which

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is going to be robot Quest arena robot C

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Arena bot battle from Wier games this is

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basically a uh deck building game a deck

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building Skirmish game you're going to

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have Arena you're G have a bunch of bots

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over here these are plastic adorably

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prepainted Bots over here and you're

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going to basically be gathering a bunch

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of cards to build out your decks as you

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try to figure out which uh melee cards

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which movement cards which economy cards

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which defense cards which uh you know

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shooting across the board cards what

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what different items you going to have

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as you build it your deck and try to

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basically take down your opponents

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there's no death in this game per se

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when you die you just respawn but your

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life points convert into points for the

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various team members or the various

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enemies that have taken you down so it's

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basically a deck building Skirmish game

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which is exactly what I said very fun

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very simple appeal very um very it's got

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very it's got a very strong simple

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direct appeal to it combined with

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absolutely gorgeous components that

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really hold like these these prepainted

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Miniatures are fantastic they're cute

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they really invest you into the

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characters as you wander around the

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board controlling your bots in this bot

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battle arena lots of like lots of

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positive testimonials from Dice Tower

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from set up and sit down M me etc etc

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etc as you go through this over here and

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the lots of various spots for the game

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there's a lots of ways to spend money on

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this which makes it hard to break down

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all the various factors but I'll try to

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do what I can over here or at least I'll

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try to do what I can let's go to the

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reward tiers so if we go to the um let's

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find the um sorry one second I'm trying

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to find the tiers here we go the new

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Bots tier for $89 you simply get your

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hands on the new Bots it's going to give

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you the new Bots and just be clear new

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Bots does not mean just new Bots new

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Bots also means new cards some new uh

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new aspects some of the original new bot

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packs had new new uh mechanics that were

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add to the game as well so you're

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getting a bunch of new content you're

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not just getting new characters you're

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getting new characters new cars new

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tokens new everything new terrain

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elements stuff like that to be added to

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your game don't think of it purely as

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just oh I'm getting for exra characters

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you're not you're getting additional

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content for the game as well we have the

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new player tier over here $69 to get

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your hands on the base game plain and

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simple straightforward but it also gives

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you the exclusive promo pack from the

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original Campaign which is important

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because otherwise you should just be

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getting this online because it's cheaper

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to get your hands get your hands on the

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game from your online local game store

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you're paying for the reason you're

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paying for this here plus shipping as

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well is because you're getting that

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Kickstarter exclusive pack of extra

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stuff we have the everything new tier

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which gives you the kickstarter

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exclusive stuff for this pack over here

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here the bot Battle Pack over here we

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have um oh this is actually the new bot

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battle this is the new bot battle promo

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pack cuz they have an old bot battle

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promo card pack anyways you have the new

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thing over here everything new the giant

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storage box the extra Arena map the

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various new Bots the extra tile packs we

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have the all Bots here giving you all

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the Bots the base game all the extra

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seven bots so all the the new Bots you

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have in this campaign the original

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expansions the there were a few

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expansions that brought you new elements

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from the original campaign that brought

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you new gameplay elements and you get

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both Kickstarter packs the original and

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the new Kickstarter pack and we've all

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TI for $329 bringing you all the stuff

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absolutely all the stuff if you want all

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of that there are a lot of ways to spend

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money on this game the tricky part is if

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you look at the second Market if you

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look at eBay if you look at Board Game

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Geek the kickstarter exclusive stuff for

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this game has done well this game has

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been received fairly well which means

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people have been hunting down that

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Kickstarter exclusive stuff and again if

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you look on eBay this thing like the

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original game that sold for like you

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know 70 80 bucks or whatever it was for

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the all in on Kickstarter last time if

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you look on eBay that stuff is selling

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for for twice the price of what people

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paid for it for the kickstarter

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exclusive specifically because the base

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game as is that's available at retail

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there's no reason to pay extra for that

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stuff you can get your hands on it

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easily enough but if you want the extra

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stuff that you couldn't get your hands

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on the stuff that's hard to track down

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the kickstarter exclusive stuff that

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stuff is doing very very well on the

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second hand Market which means that as

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much as there's a lot of ways to spend a

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lot of money here and a lot as much as

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almost IR rolling how expensive some of

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the stuff is you are getting Deluxe

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prepainted Miniatures whenever you buy

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those packs for Miniatures you're not

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just getting Miniatures you're also

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getting promo packs and all these extra

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you know card content for the game that

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enhances your gameplay further and

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ultimately the biggest thing is if you

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are looking interested in that stuff

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some of this stuff will do fine holding

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its value just fine now I can't break it

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down every single thing by tier because

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a lot of ways to mix and match it but if

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you are looking for the stuff the

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kickstarter exclusive stuff for this

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game this is a popular game it's in

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demand it has done fairly well and that

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means people want that Kickstarter

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exclusive stuff so it's much as

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expensive I don't think I mean keep in

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mind you can buy just the base game and

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a few extra stuff that you find here and

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there go on eBay hunt down something

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that you can find you'll have plenty of

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gameplay content for this game if your

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goal is playing the game there are many

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affordable ways to play a lot of aspects

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of this game and get a lot of fun from

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this game without Breaking the Bank get

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the original game on retail get the new

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Bots over here and you're good to go you

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have a ton of content but if you are

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looking to spend more and you're curious

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about whether it'll hold this value it

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looks like a lot of it will do fairly

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well because of the kickstarter of stuff

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and the popularity around the game it's

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it's always hard with these things

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because again I'm looking how expensive

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some of the stuff is and I'm like wow I

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can't believe I'm telling you that this

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will hold its value but for some of it

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it seems to be doing just fine so that

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that is the the tradeoff over there and

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that's basically everything which brings

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us to our pix of the week it's been a

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long video it's been a lot of long

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videos recently I don't know what I

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don't know what's going on I'm trying to

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talk as fast as I possibly can but I

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can't I can't cover it all but anyways

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pick of the week for pick of the week we

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usually have two pick of the week we

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have the uh personal pick of the week

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the game I'm most interested in and the

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game that I think will hold is most

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likely to hold his value for my personal

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pick of the week actually let's go with

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the value pick of the week first my

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value pick of the week I'm going to go

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with Veil fate over here Veil fate

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tribunal over here this one is uh you

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know IV games IV studios in general this

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stuff does a tremendous job holding its

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value it always holds value to some

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extent and especially in between print

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runs or the harder to have hard hard to

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get your hands on stuff that stuff does

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even better so overall I think this one

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is likely the value pick of the week and

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then for my personal interest pick of

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the week if I can go ahead and find it

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over here we're going to have Roth Roth

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over here and I debated it was between

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this and armella over here because I am

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very interested in arella but I don't

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know enough about it so I think this is

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like more the fomo driving me versus

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Roth Roth is a very solid game I really

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enjoyed it I have some complaints and

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nitpicks but I think a lot of those

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things are still stuff that will be

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ironed out a chip of three games very

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much for many of their campaigns they do

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treat it like crowdfunding they have

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like hey here's where we are in our

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vision we still need a tweak and a TR

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and finish things but this is close

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enough to the final thing that you're

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getting we're going to start talking

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about it but we are still open to

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feedback and changing things I do hope

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some things get tweaked and adjusted and

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improved upon but as it was it was a

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very rewarding area control game with

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asymmetric powers that played in an hour

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generally speaking and gave me a lot of

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fun for the experience so I am very

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interested in Roth that's going to be my

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personal interest pick of the week

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that's basically we have which means as

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far as campaigns coming up next week we

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have ream down full of magic is going to

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be coming over on Kickstarter 6,500

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backers in this one uh 6500 followers

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not backers I wish it was back back they

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wish they were backers but 6,500

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followers on this campaign over here

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just play this one today uh you can

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expect some coverage on this one coming

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giv be a gameplay and a first impression

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thoughts video coming out and then we

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also have the dead keep from comman over

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here from Sean coming on gamefound this

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a pre-order not crowdfunding but it's

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going to be launching over on game found

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this one it just finished the real book

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for it I did an unboxing you can check

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that out and I hope to be diving to it

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as soon as I possibly can but frankly

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I'm waiting for them to send me a

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scenario because right now I know how to

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play but I don't actually have a

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scenario to play the game and that's

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what we have until next time I'm Alex R

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from board game Co I hope you enjoy this

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video and as always I hope you have a

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good

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one what do you call a paper airplane

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that can't fly

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stationary

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