“Fatah Were Not Happy With The Hamas Attack On October 7”

Summary

In a recent development, Fatah, the organization governing the Palestinian territories (excluding Gaza, controlled by Hamas), has publicly condemned Hamas for its terrorist attacks on October 7th. This marks the first time Fatah has openly criticized Hamas in such strong terms, accusing them of causing a disaster for the Palestinian people. The move is seen as significant, possibly influenced by international pressure, and could impact the future leadership in Gaza once the conflict subsides. The discussion includes insights from Yanov, a senior lecturer in Middle East politics, who suggests that Fatah's criticism is sincere and reflects a broader Arab world sentiment, despite potential ulterior motives.

Takeaways

• 📜 Fata organization publicly condemns Hamas for the October 7th attacks, marking a significant shift in their stance.
• 🤔 The condemnation suggests a growing tension between Fatah and Hamas, with Fatah accusing Hamas of causing a disaster for the Palestinian people.
• 🌍 International pressure may have influenced Fatah's decision to publicly criticize Hamas, as they are seen as potential leaders of the Gaza Strip post-conflict.
• 🏛️ The Palestinian Authority, led by President Mahmud Abbas, has appointed a new technocratic government, partly in response to American pressure.
• 🔄 Despite past corruption and legitimacy issues, Fatah still maintains some support among Gazan populations and civil servant salaries.
• 🤝 The Palestinian Authority's connection with Gaza and its representation of the Palestinian people could potentially facilitate their leadership in the region.
• 🕊️ The hope for a peaceful conclusion to the conflict, with minimized civilian casualties on both sides, is emphasized.
• 🗣️ The conversation includes a discussion on the potential sincerity of Fatah's condemnation of Hamas, suggesting it may be出于 genuine concern for the Palestinian people rather than political maneuvering.
• 🔎 The dialogue also touches on the reception of Fatah's statement in Israel, the Palestinian Authority, and Gaza, highlighting the complexity of the situation.
• 👨‍🏫 Yanov, a senior lecturer in Middle East politics, provides expert analysis on the situation, offering insights into the political dynamics at play.

Q & A

What is the significance of Fatah's statement against Hamas?

Fatah's statement is significant because it is the first time they have publicly and strongly condemned Hamas for their actions, particularly the attacks on October 7th. This indicates a shift in the relationship between these two Palestinian organizations and reflects a potential change in the political landscape of the Palestinian territories.

Why has Fatah criticized Hamas in the past?

Fatah has criticized Hamas in the past due to disagreements over strategic decisions, such as launching attacks against Israel, and for the perceived negative impact on the Palestinian people. These criticisms have been more cautious and private until the recent public statement.

What is Yanov's perspective on the international pres...

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Outlines

00:00

🌍 Middle East Developments: Fatah's Condemnation of Hamas

The video discusses the recent developments in the Middle East, focusing on Fatah's public condemnation of Hamas for their terrorist attacks on October 7th. The speaker, Yanov, a senior lecturer in Middle East politics, provides context for this rare public criticism from Fatah towards Hamas. The discussion highlights the potential international pressure and the changing dynamics within the Palestinian Authority, which has appointed a new, more technocratic government. The conversation delves into the legitimacy of the Palestinian Authority and Fatah's potential return to power in Gaza post-conflict, despite previous corruption allegations and their complicated relationship with Israel.

05:00

🗣️ Public Opinion and International Relations: Fatah's Strategy and Israel's Response

This segment of the video script explores the potential motivations behind Fatah's condemnation of Hamas, suggesting that it might be a strategic move to position Fatah as the future leaders of Gaza. The discussion includes speculation about whether this public stance is genuine or a response to international pressure. The conversation also touches on how this statement might be received in Israel and within the Palestinian Authority, considering the historical context and the ongoing conflict. The speaker, Yanov, argues that while some judges from countries with poor human rights records have spoken out against the Palestinian Authority, the international community is increasingly recognizing the need for a legitimate Palestinian leadership, which could be provided by the reformed Palestinian Authority.

Keywords

💡Fatah

Fatah is a political party and organization that has historically governed the Palestinian territories, excluding Gaza, which is controlled by Hamas. In the transcript, Fatah is noted for its rare public criticism of Hamas's decisions, particularly regarding the attacks on October 7th.

💡Hamas

Hamas is a Palestinian Islamist political organization and militant group that has been ruling the Gaza Strip since 2007. The transcript discusses Hamas's controversial actions, such as the terrorist attacks on October 7th, which have been criticized by Fatah and other international entities.

💡Middle East Politics

Middle East Politics refers to the complex and dynamic political landscape of the Middle East region, encompassing the interactions between regional and international actors, as well as internal political developments within the countries of the region. The transcript focuses on the specific political tensions and developments between Fatah and Hamas in the context of the broader Middle East political scene.

💡Palestinian Authority

The Palestinian Authority is the interim self-government body that administers parts of the West Bank and Gaza Strip. The transcript discusses the Palestinian Authority's potential role and influence in the regional politics.

Highlights

Fatah, the organization running the Palestinian territories (excluding Gaza), has released a strong statement condemning Hamas for their actions.

This is the first time Fatah has publicly criticized Hamas in such strong terms.

The statement accuses Hamas of causing the greatest disaster in the history of the Palestinian people.

Fatah alleges that Hamas leaders live in luxury abroad while ordinary Palestinians suffer the consequences of war.

There is an implication that international pressure may have influenced Fatah's public condemnation of Hamas.

The Palestinian Authority (PA) has recently appointed a new, more technocratic government.

The new PA government is partly a response to American pressure to create a government capable of taking over the Gaza Strip.

Despite past corruption and legitimacy crises, Fatah still has some support among the Gazan population.

The PA has been paying salaries of civil servants in Gaza, maintaining a connection between the West Bank and Gaza.

Fatah is the only Palestinian organization representing the Palestinian people, which may lend it legitimacy despite criticisms.

The timing of Fatah's statement could be strategic, potentially positioning them as leaders in post-conflict Gaza.

The sincerity of Fatah's condemnation of Hamas is questioned, with suggestions it may be a move to gain international favor.

The interviewee believes Fatah's criticism is genuine, based on the realization that Hamas's actions have caused disaster for Palestinians.

Other Arab entities have also criticized Hamas's decisions, but Fatah's Palestinian identity makes their condemnation particularly significant.

The Israeli government's stance on strengthening the PA has shifted over time, with some recognizing the need for a viable leadership in Gaza.

The PA is currently the only actor with the legitimacy and connections to potentially take control of the Gaza Strip.

The discussion highlights the complex political dynamics between various Palestinian factions and the international community.

The interview underscores the potential for a shift in power dynamics in the Gaza Strip following the conflict.

Transcripts

absolutely fascinating uh developments

um in the Middle East because fata now

and we're going to get a full

explanation from yanov but fata are the

organization that which run the

Palestinian territories not Gaza of

course uh because that's Hamas

terrorists but they have put out this

excoriating statement about what Hamas

did those terrorist attacks on the 7th

of October I I don't think this has been

happened in isolation I don't think that

fata have just decided to do that got up

one morning thought I know we'll put out

this statement to condemn Hamas let's

find out what's happening from yanov

voer who senior lecture in Middle East

politics yanov thanks for joining us uh

this morning uh sorry this afternoon um

this is a I mean this is pretty

astonishing that fata have done this

just give us the context of this

please oh thank you thank you so much

for having me um I think to be

fair has been very cautiously uh

criticizing Hamas for the decision to

launch the onslaught against Israel so

it's not the first time that P has been

somewhat critical toward hamas's

decision but it's the first time that it

actually comes out in public to do so

and in such in in in such strong terms I

mean this is a translation I just want

to give our viewers here or maybe maybe

maybe just tuning in just in the last

few minutes because I have read this a

little bit earlier in the program but

this is um the the official fata

statement against Hamas you didn't

consult anyone before you went for for

the 7th of October attacks this a

translation by the way you're

responsible and you're guilty of the

greatest disaster in the history of the

Palestinian people you want Iran to rule

over us your leaders live in sevenstar

hotels abroad they also move their

families from Gaza and we are paying the

price of War I mean they blame Israel as

well of course and you would expect them

to do so but this is very very pointed

against Hamas where do you think this

has come from I mean you're saying there

have been some criticisms before but

such a strong statement surely there's

some International pressure that's been

part of this

yanov absolutely and these are very

these are very harsh Wars in many ways

they they EO the the same accusations

that the Israeli government has used

against Hamas and this probably has to

do with the fact that P and the

Palestinian Authority are becoming

increasingly visible as as the as the

only potential leaders of the Gaza Strip

after the end of the figh yes

um the the Palestinian prime minister

sorry the president of the Palestinian

Authority Mahmud abas has actually

appointed a new government in recent

days um and this government can be

described as a more technocratic

government and this has been part partly

at this response to the pressure by The

Americans on the Palestinian Authority

to create a government that could

actually uh that could actually take

over the Gaza Street after the end of

the of the fighting yes and what do you

think is the most likely thing to happen

I mean you said that fata is probably

going to do so but would the gazan

people accept them do you

think so we all know of course that the

the fata was actually kicked out of Gaza

in 2006 and and they're seen as a very

corrupt um organization as well yes it

has been criticized for his corruption

and it has been criticized also for

being too um uh for being too for being

almost complicit in Israel's control of

the of the West Bank so it has suffered

from some legitimacy crisis on the other

hand the F still has some pockets of

support among the aazan populations

there are certain elements there are

certain families and and sectors that

they have been supporting fat the

Palestinian Authority has actually been

paying the salaries of um civil servants

in in the Gaza street right so there are

there have been some special connections

between the West Bank and and Gaza

between the Palestinian Authority and

the gazans and at the end of the day the

Palestinian Authority desp of the

criticism that it has faced in the um in

recent years it is still the only

Palestinian organization that is still

representing the Palestinian people so

it does make it it does probably make

the fat and Palestinian Authority more

legitimate than any other internal

organization or body that that will will

will come to

together yes and it's interesting just

in terms of the timing of all of this

you mentioned that fata May well be the

only showen time in Gaza when uh the war

is hopefully over and hopefully the

civilian casualties can be avoided on

both sides as much as possible and this

can be brought to conclusion but do you

think this might be I mean how cynical

do we need to be about this I suppose

yanov is this are statements like this

kind of the price of uh that that Israel

May extract from them that the

International Community May extract from

them to say well actually F if you go as

far as you can in condemning Hamas

terrorists well actually uh will

facilitate you being the leaders of Gaza

even though that's probably the most

likely outcome

anyway I I I actually genuinely believe

that was not happy with with with um

with with hamas's attack on you think

they're being you think they're being

sincere in

this yeah absolutely and don't

necessarily do it out of support for

Israel but out of realization that this

attack has actually caused a massive

disaster for the Palestinian

people f is not the only element in the

Arab world to have condemned Hamas for

the decision but it's the first but they

are Palestinians and that makes a huge

difference but I think it's not just a

Sinister criticism how will this be

received in Israel and indeed by people

in the Palestinian authorities and

indeed by people in

Gaza I

for a long time the Israeli government

under Benjamin netan has rejected the

idea of strengthening the Palestinian

Authority certainly before the year 7th

of October but I think that as time goes

by even uh some of the um even some of

the um stest voices against the

Palestinian Authority realize that there

is no other option there is no other

option because someone will have to take

over the Gaza Strip the Israel govern is

not planning on doing so so someone

needs to take over and the Palestinian

Authority at this point is really the

only actor that also has the legitimacy

and Connections in the Gaza Strip to

achieve that fascinating stuff thank you

very much indeed that's janana valer who

is senior lecture in Middle East

politics thank you very much indeed for

your time and uh that story uh came in

just this morning so thank you to uh

Yana for coming on quickly about it

Elizabeth is in Aberdine she's given me

a call on 0344 499 1000 Elizabeth I

think you have a question for me about

this General issue is that right you're

very welcome to the program this morning

yeah thank you Peter I was just

wondering what it is that you that you

know so emphatically that 15 icj judges

do not know when it comes to genocide

because you sort of cut Tony off an hour

or so ago cut him off at the knees when

he brought it up uh telling him that

there is no genocide happening there how

do you know that Peter Well the

definition of genocide is and I knew

your call was coming so I just Googled

it just in the brag beforehand is the

deliberate killing of a large number of

people from a particular Nation or

ethnic group with the aim of destroying

that Nation or group a campaign of

genocide that is not what Israel is

doing oh you don't think so well a lot

of us think that is what they're doing

um and I don't know how you can be in

disagreement with all these judges who

it's their it's because I think they're

wrong and also they're judges yeah

because you think they're wrong you

don't know they're wrong well I do

because Elizabeth there are many there

are well okay well let me explain why

and then perhaps you can give me your

opinion um there are judges on the

international criminal court who are

from or are from countries that have

unbelievably terrible human rights

records like Russia and China for

example and I'm free in a democracy to

disagree with their decision necessarily

I don't think it's democracy I don't

think it's uh what they are putting

forward within their view is actually

genocide and also they haven't said that

well their judgment is saying there is a

risk of genocide they're not saying that

there actually has been genocide in is

plausible plausible genocide is the

wording they use and like these other

countries that do not have a great

record on human rights really don't have

anything to do with it that that's

really what about those and it's got

nothing to do we're talking about I

don't really I don't really understand

your point I mean I don't I do not

disagree that some of the judges are

coming from countries that don't have a

great record themselves but they're

sitting on a panel and they were given

the task to do this and

it's as close as you can get to genocide

and the fact that you can't see that is

really disappointing just just one more

comment if I may sure the fact the fact

that you didn't know that your research

hasn't gone far enough to know about

David Miller that amazes me okay I I I

can't know every single thing that a

caller or texter brings up there are

literally hundreds of different issues

that people uh make points on Elizabeth

over the course of a three-hour program

and I I I mean I I I that person made

that point and certainly I have you know

have read into it now in the breaks and

so on but if someone just thrw something

at me on the air I can't know every

single news story it's impossible it's

not about knowing every single news

story that's a pretty big one Peter

anyway thank you for listening to me I

appreciate it no not at all thanks

Elizabeth thanks for your call H that

was Elizabeth in

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