EL 8M NO ES UNA FIESTA (3x21)

Saldremos Mejores
14 Mar 202407:25

Summary

TLDRThe transcript discusses the evolution of feminism, highlighting the participation of millions in women's marches and the push for gender equality. It touches on the need for feminism to address not only women's issues but also to include anti-racism, anti-capitalism, and the concerns of women with disabilities. The International Men's Day is mentioned, emphasizing the importance of addressing men's health and positive contributions to society. The conversation also critiques certain feminist approaches, advocating for a more inclusive and comprehensive understanding of gender equality.

Takeaways

  • 📊 Millions participated in women's marches, showing continued support for gender equality and feminist movements.
  • 🇪🇸 Protests in Madrid and other cities demonstrate the widespread nature of the feminist movement across different regions.
  • 💃 The feminist movement continues to push for equality, including addressing issues like the gender pay gap and domestic work distribution.
  • 🤔 The speaker reflects on the evolution of feminism, suggesting that it has moved beyond its initial stages and is now more inclusive and diverse.
  • 🧠 The importance of considering the interests of all women, including those with disabilities, is highlighted in the feminist discourse.
  • 📚 The speaker mentions reading 'The Desired Body' by Andrea García Santes, which discusses the intersection of feminism and ableism.
  • 🌍 The International Men's Day on November 19th is recognized for addressing men's issues and promoting positive male roles in society.
  • 🏥 Health and well-being of men, as well as their contributions to the community, are topics of discussion during International Men's Day.
  • 🕊️ The script touches on the need for gender equality, non-violence, and peace, which are key to improving society.
  • 🚨 The speaker criticizes certain feminist approaches that may be seen as conforming to traditional or capitalist systems, suggesting a need for a more radical change.
  • 💔 The impact of patriarchal culture and systems on men is acknowledged, with statistics indicating that men face challenges such as poverty and high suicide rates.

Q & A

  • How many people participated in the 8M (March 8th) demonstrations in Madrid?

    -The script does not provide a specific number, but it mentions 'HM millones más de medio millón' which implies millions and a half million participants.

  • What actions have been taken in favor of Palestine?

    -The script does not detail the specific actions taken in favor of Palestine, only mentioning that there have been actions supporting Palestine alongside the 8M demonstrations.

  • What is the significance of the 'muerte en Santiago' mentioned in the script?

    -The script does not provide context for the 'muerte en Santiago' (deaths in Santiago), making it unclear whether it refers to a specific event or a general commentary on violence or mortality.

  • How does the speaker describe the evolution of feminism?

    -The speaker describes the evolution of feminism as moving from an initial stage (Frida Kahlo's time) to a more modern and comprehensive approach that includes the redistribution of resources, anti-racism, anti-capitalism, and consideration for women with disabilities.

  • What is the International Men's Day and when is it celebrated?

    -International Men's Day is a day to address issues like men's health and to recognize the positive contributions of men in society. It is celebrated every year on November 19th and was established in 1992 by Thomas Hoster, director of the Center for Masculine Studies at the University of Missouri-Kansas.

  • What is the main criticism against the ultra-capitalist feminism mentioned in the script?

    -The main criticism is that ultra-capitalist feminism pushes women, including those with disabilities, to produce at a pace that may not be suitable or possible for them, leading to inequality and exploitation.

  • What book does the speaker recommend for understanding the intersection between feminism and ableism?

    -The speaker recommends the book 'El Cuerpo Deseado' (The Desired Body) by Andrea García Santes, which discusses the necessary conversation between feminism and anti-ableism.

  • What is the speaker's view on the role of women in the workplace and society?

    -The speaker emphasizes the need for gender equality, redistribution of resources, and recognition of the contributions of all individuals, regardless of their role or position in society.

  • How does the speaker describe the impact of patriarchal culture on men?

    -The speaker argues that patriarchal culture, which is also described as deeply patriarchal, colonial, ultra-capitalist, and individualistic, grinds men down, pushing them towards indigence, suicide, and death in wars.

  • What is the speaker's stance on the use of assertiveness and conventional understanding in feminism?

    -The speaker suggests that while assertiveness and conventional understanding are important, they should not be the sole focus of feminism. Instead, feminism should propose solutions to societal problems that affect both men and women.

  • What does the speaker suggest as a solution to the issues faced by both men and women?

    -The speaker advocates for a feminism that addresses the systemic issues of patriarchal culture, capitalism, and individualism, proposing a more inclusive and equitable society that does not grind down either gender.

Outlines

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🌐 Global Feminism and Social Movements

This paragraph discusses the widespread participation in social movements, particularly focusing on feminism. It mentions the significant number of people who have joined protests in Madrid, actions in support of Palestine, and the unification of the feminist assembly in Seville. The speaker reflects on the evolution of feminism, moving from its initial stages to a more inclusive and intersectional approach that addresses issues like domestic labor, anti-racism, and anti-capitalism. The paragraph also touches on the challenges faced by women with disabilities within this ultra-capitalist feminism and suggests the need for further reflection on the topic, recommending a book that discusses the intersection of feminism and ableism.

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📚 Feminism, Misogyny, and the Role of Men

The second paragraph delves into the complexities of feminism and its intersection with other societal issues. It addresses the concept of 'feminism 1.0' and how it has evolved over time, emphasizing the need for a more nuanced understanding of gender roles and societal expectations. The speaker criticizes certain aspects of contemporary feminism that may not align with the experiences of all women, particularly those with disabilities. The discussion also includes the International Men's Day, its origins, and the topics it aims to address, such as men's health and positive contributions of men to society. The paragraph concludes with a critique of the patriarchal system and its harmful effects on both men and women, advocating for a more equitable and understanding approach to gender relations.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Manifestations

Manifestations refer to public demonstrations or protests. In the context of the video, over half a million people participated in manifestations in Madrid, advocating for various causes including support for Palestine and the fight against genocide. These events highlight the collective action and solidarity among people striving for social justice and change.

💡Feminist Movement

The feminist movement is a series of campaigns for reforms on issues such as reproductive rights, domestic violence, maternity leave, equal pay, women's suffrage, sexual harassment, and sexual violence. The video discusses how the feminist movement continues to push for equality, emphasizing the dynamic and evolving nature of feminism beyond superficial interpretations.

💡Equality

Equality in the video is discussed in the context of the feminist movement's goal to achieve equal rights and opportunities for all genders. The speaker's participation in feminist actions and their critical reflection on the movement's direction underscore the ongoing struggle for a fair redistribution of resources, opportunities, and recognition across genders.

💡Anti-racism

Anti-racism is the practice of opposing racism and promoting racial tolerance. The video mentions anti-racism as part of a broader feminist agenda that seeks to address systemic inequalities and discrimination. It highlights the importance of integrating anti-racism into feminist activism to combat all forms of oppression.

💡Ableism

Ableism is discrimination and social prejudice against people with disabilities. The video critiques a version of feminism that ignores the challenges faced by women with disabilities, advocating for a more inclusive feminism that addresses ableism and supports the rights and needs of disabled individuals.

💡International Men's Day

International Men's Day, celebrated on November 19th, aims to highlight men's achievements and contributions to society, promote male health, and advocate for gender equality. The video discusses this day in the context of questioning the promotion of gender equality through such an event and its effectiveness in addressing systemic issues faced by men.

💡Patriarchy

Patriarchy is a social system in which men hold primary power and predominate in roles of political leadership, moral authority, social privilege, and control of property. The video discusses how societal issues like war and the prison system harm men but are rooted in patriarchal values, emphasizing the need for feminist approaches to dismantle these structures.

💡Capitalism

Capitalism is mentioned in the context of critiquing a form of feminism that aligns with capitalist values, which prioritize productivity and profit over individuals' well-being. The video calls for a feminism that challenges capitalist exploitation and seeks a more equitable distribution of resources.

💡Frida Kahlo

Frida Kahlo, referenced in the context of criticizing a superficial embrace of feminism through commodification, symbolizes the commercialization of feminist icons without engaging with the deeper issues. The video encourages moving beyond a superficial understanding of feminism to embrace its complex, intersectional nature.

💡Inclusivity

Inclusivity is discussed as an essential aspect of feminism, highlighting the need for the movement to address and include the experiences and rights of all women, including those with disabilities, women of color, and LGBTQ+ individuals. The video advocates for a feminism that is aware of and fights against all forms of discrimination.

Highlights

Millions of people have participated in demonstrations in Madrid.

Actions in favor of Palestine and against genocide, such as the Global March.

The feminist movement continues to push for equality, as seen in the feminist assembly in Seville.

The speaker reflects on the evolution of feminism, from its 1.0 version to a more inclusive and diverse movement.

The importance of considering the roles and aspirations of women in various fields, such as science and leadership.

The critique of a hyper-capitalist feminism that focuses on productivity and overlooks the contributions of those who cannot keep up, including women with disabilities.

The need for a necessary conversation between feminism and anti-ableism, as discussed in Andrea García Santes' book 'The Desired Body'.

The International Men's Day, celebrated on November 19th, was established in 1992 in the United States to address men's issues and promote positive male roles in society.

The discussion of men's health, a traditionally neglected area, and the positive contributions of men in the community.

The promotion of gender equality on International Men's Day, raising questions about which gender's issues are being addressed.

The critique of the patriarchal system that not only oppresses women but also grinds men down, leading to poverty, suicide, and war deaths.

The feminist proposal to address these systemic issues for everyone, not just one gender.

The speaker's disapproval of Ayuso's approach, which they perceive as contributing to a harmful and repressive system.

The recognition that there are many people who genuinely believe in the repressive discourse adopted by Ayuso.

The strategy of ignoring bullies and not engaging with their provocations as a powerful tool.

The critique of a collaborationist feminism that supports a system that harms both men and women.

The call for a feminism that proposes solutions to societal problems, promoting coexistence and addressing the root causes of inequality.

The podcast features a discussion with Inés Hernán and Nerea Pérez de las Heras, addressing these complex issues every Wednesday.

Transcripts

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ha sido HM millones más de medio millón

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de personas han participado en las

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manifestaciones en Madrid ha habido

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acciones a favor de Palestina y el

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genocidio como la marcha mundial de

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mueres en Santiago la asamblea feminista

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unitaria de Sevilla bueno el movimiento

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feminista sigue empujando para la

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igualdad palante palante compañeras y ha

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sido como os decía al principio mi

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primer 8m Como disca así que me he

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quedado en mi [ __ ] casa eso es lo que he

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hecho sabes por qué sabes qué tal porque

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tía Yo ya creo que he superado el nos

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pasa a todas HM si le damos una pensada

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que llega un momento en que tú el

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feminismo eh 1.0 de totebag de Frida

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calo pues lo superas porque te pones a

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pensar no este que te dice que tienes

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que ser capaz Las niñas científicas las

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mujeres directivas e Ana Patricia botín

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pueno todas esas cosas que no nos

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interesan nada y que a lo mejor pues tú

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en 2010 en 2004 está en esas en caso de

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que hubieras nacido pero ya J en 2024 No

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no ya tienes que darle una pensad más

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allá y y saber que el feminismo pues va

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de redistribución de recursos también

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del dinero del trabajo doméstico quién

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lo hace por qué de antirracismo de no

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explotar a nadie y de anticapacitista

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linda y loca que está obsesionado con la

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productividad no entonces claro las las

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mujeres que tenemos una discapacidad Eh

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pues algunas no podemos producir al

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ritmo al que al que nos empuja este

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feminismo Ultra capitalista también hay

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que pensarlo si queréis reflexionar más

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sobre este tema yo me he leído

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recientemente el cuerpo deseado de

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Andrea García santes mases que habla de

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todo esto que es una conversación

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necesaria entre el feminismo y y el

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capacitismo y y el anticapacitista

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tú te tomas conciencia no te das el

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golpe en la cabeza luego lees a pastor Y

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filigrana dices Ah vale No es que esto

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es otra cosa luego te das cuenta que

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puede haber feministas gabis también Ah

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bueno pues no tiene que ser siempre un

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uno grande y libre no el feminismo sino

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que hay otras maneras de hacer Case a

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esto pues la última es el

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anticapacitista

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el Día Internacional del hombre se

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conmemora cada 19 de noviembre fue

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establecido en 1992 en Estados Unidos

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por Thomas hoster director del centro de

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estudios masculinos de la Universidad de

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Missouri Kansas Esto no es broma y

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además se popularizó a partir del año 99

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entonces Bueno pues se abordan temas

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como la salud masculina ya sabéis

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hegemónica y absolutamente instaurada en

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los bademecun de los de los médicos se

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resalta también el papel positivo y las

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contribuciones que realizan los hombres

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en la comunidad a veces escasa tengo que

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decir eh se promueve la igualdad de

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género qué género se va a promover desde

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el día del hombre efectivamente la paz

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la no violencia eh chicos cuidado

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cuidado cuidado con esas NFL la equidad

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la tolerancia y el entendimiento para

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todo ello efectivamente necesitarás algo

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eh que no sabemos todavía estoy yo eh en

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procesos de comprobación de Si estamos

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en el sapiens sapiens eh efectivamente

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sí está en la especie adecuada Eh bueno

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todo esto viene porque es que ya no

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sabía cómo eh abordar que hay uso pues

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pero me gusta muchísimo cómo lo has era

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ha sido una sorpresa para mí como ha

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abordado la la patochada nueva de yuso

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sí lo sig la patochada nueva de yuso fue

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que efectivamente hay hombres eh libres

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lindos y locos que en su mayoría mueren

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en guerras eh Como la guerra pues pues

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yo que sé pues pues me imagino que la

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guerra de las jornaleras de vuelva a no

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eh la guerra de pues efectivamente la

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los las tareas del hogar tampoco eh

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Porque son accidentados de tráfico eh

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porque ellos son taxistas Y que además

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abandonan los estudios también eh Para

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hacer de esta sociedad un mundo mejor

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bueno Mira vamos a ver no hay ironía

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chicos eh Ya está ya está eh Ya está con

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Ayuso yo no sé nunca si hablar de ella o

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no hablar de ella porque claro el truco

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que hace ella es no el truco que ha es

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algo que se piensa que que se piensa más

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gente de la que creemos en erea o que lo

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de para cu un día de que

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sí dio que ella era una feminista de

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otro tipo que a ella no le gusta este

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ruido totebag de frac Cómo no vas a

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querer o sea claro es que lo que lo que

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cuando tú exiges que se limen las

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desigualdades Claro que es molesto

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cuando tú coges Y dices Ay no es que

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muéstrate de una forma en la que

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convencionalmente se te vaya a entender

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de una forma adecuada O sea si empleas

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ciertos os Si hablas con con asertividad

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y con tal No ya eres ya eres más lista

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que el hambre y lo que eres es una

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pedazo de [ __ ] y una y una astuta y una

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zorras ca entonces Bueno pues

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efectivamente todas estas

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colaboracionistas también un besito para

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ellas hay un día del hombre que ya

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sabemos Cuál es que es el 19 de

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noviembre y el resto pues leer os el

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libro que os ha dicho nerea que es

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interesantísimo del cuerpo deseado ella

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dice es que a ver ay uso hace una cosa

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que tú cuando eras pequeña y se metía

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contigo el bully del colegio o

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interrumpí a la clase y tal que te decía

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tu madre si tenía dos dedos de frente o

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tu padre te decía no no eh lo peor que

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puedes hacer o sea lo peor que puedes

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hacer al Bull tu mejor arma es no

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hacerle caso no y es que la estrategia

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de Ayuso es esa es que ella es ya cas

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tía o sea es que es cuanto peor mejor es

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cuanto peor mejor todo el rato pero como

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dice Inés y tiene todísima la razón que

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en este debate estamos metidas las dos

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siempre hay muchísima gente que estáis

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ahora escuchándonos que esto lo tenéis

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que escuchar en casa y os lo tenéis que

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zampar con patatas y hay gente que que

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se lo cree de verdad porque es al final

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el discurso de la manosfera el que ha el

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que ha adoptado a yuso que es una

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colaboracionista asquerosa vale la

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guerra y el sistema carcelario

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eh trituran a los hombres eso es verdad

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en su mayoría o sea las estadísticas no

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son mentira eh pero son profundamente

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patriarcales o sea es cultura de los

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hombres triturando a los hombres o sea

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es es Es esa cultura patriarcal que es

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no hace falta llamarla cultura

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patriarcal vale es la hegemonía es lo

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que manda es el sistema que también es

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colonial que también es ultrac

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capitalista que también es

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individualista que también es cero

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atención a lo público o sea tu apuesta

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de convivencia Ay uso tu apuesta de

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convivencia la que tú propones ni

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siquiera la propones es que no te hace

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falta proponerla porque es más antigua

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que la tos es el orden de las cosas el

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que tritura a los hombres y les empuja a

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la indigencia el suicidio y morir en las

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guerras no es el feminismo no es ninguna

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guerra inventada de sexos querida dío

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Entonces el feminismo qué hace pues

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proponer una salida a estos problemas

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para todo el mundo para ella y para él

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vale unisex venga a tomar por culo ya

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está estoy aburrida ya est veng venga

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saldremos mejores con Inés Hernán y

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nerea Pérez de las Heras todos los

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miércoles en podium

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