Inside MI5 Espionage Documentary
Summary
TLDRMI5, Britain's Security Service, has operated in the shadows for a century, safeguarding the nation from threats such as global terrorism and IRA attacks. This transcript reveals insights into the agency's history, including its response to 9/11, the handling of high-profile cases like the Gibraltar shootings, and the allegations of complicity in torture. It also discusses the impact of the service's actions on its reputation and the lessons learned from past operations, emphasizing the importance of understanding history to avoid repeating mistakes.
Takeaways
- ๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ MI5's Role in History: MI5 has been a secret service for a hundred years, working behind the scenes to keep Britain safe from various threats, including global terrorism.
- ๐ถ Evolution of Threats: The nature of threats has evolved over time, from the IRA bombings to the rise of al-Qaeda and the challenge of homegrown terrorism post-9/11.
- ๐ Counterterrorism Efforts: MI5 has been at the forefront of counterterrorism efforts, uncovering numerous plots and working to prevent attacks on British soil.
- ๐ International Cooperation: MI5 has collaborated with international agencies, such as the CIA, to share intelligence and respond to global threats.
- ๐ Unprecedented Access: Professor Christopher Andrew was given unprecedented access to MI5 files to write its authorized history, revealing both successes and failures.
- ๐ฅ Media Portrayal vs. Reality: The script dispels myths about MI5 and spy work, highlighting the teamwork and extensive resources required in real-life intelligence operations.
- ๐ค Double Agents and Deception: MI5's use of double agents, such as Juan Pujol (codenamed Garbo), played a crucial role in deceiving enemies during WWII.
- ๐ท Alleged Complicity in Torture: MI5 has faced allegations of complicity in torture, which contradicts its established ethos and the belief that information gained under torture is unreliable.
- ๐ฉ The Cambridge Spies: The script discusses the infamous Cambridge Spies, who infiltrated British intelligence and passed on valuable information to the Soviet Union.
- ๐๏ธ Gibraltar Incident: The controversial shooting of three IRA members in Gibraltar by the SAS, in which MI5 was involved, led to questions about the use of lethal force and the 'shoot-to-kill' policy.
- ๐ MI5's Expansion and Budget: Post-9/11, MI5 doubled in size and its budget increased to hundreds of millions, reflecting the heightened importance of intelligence and counterterrorism work.
Q & A
How has MI5 evolved over the years in response to changing threats?
-MI5 has adapted to emerging threats by changing its focus and doubling in size after 9/11, increasing its budget into the hundreds of millions and employing nearly 3,800 people. It has also evolved its methods and priorities, shifting from counter-espionage to counter-terrorism, particularly in response to the rise of global terrorism and the IRA's campaign of violence.
What was the significance of the 7/7 attacks to MI5?
-The 7/7 attacks marked a turning point for MI5 as they highlighted the threat of homegrown terrorism and the need to focus on preventing domestic terrorism. The attacks also led to MI5 being criticized for not identifying and stopping the bombers, which emphasized the challenge of managing limited resources against a growing number of potential threats.
How did MI5 handle the threat of the Provisional IRA in the 1980s?
-MI5 took the lead intelligence role against the Provisional IRA, particularly in Gibraltar. This culminated in Operation Flavius, where an MI5 surveillance team worked with Spanish police, leading to the controversial shooting of three IRA members by the SAS. The incident led to MI5 facing allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy.
What was the role of Anthony Blunt in MI5 during World War II?
-Anthony Blunt was an MI5 officer who simultaneously reported to Winston Churchill and Joseph Stalin due to his role as a Soviet spy. He passed on numerous documents, including information about the Enigma machine, to his Soviet handlers, which could have potentially changed the course of the war if the Germans had acted on this intelligence.
How did the Cambridge spies infiltrate British intelligence?
-The Cambridge spies, including Donald MacLean, John Cairncross, and Kim Philby, exploited their positions in the British establishment and their intellectual connections to infiltrate British intelligence. Their network, known as the Magnificent Five, caused significant damage by passing on sensitive information to the KGB.
What was the impact of Peter Wright's allegations against Sir Roger Hollis?
-Peter Wright's allegations that Sir Roger Hollis was a Soviet mole led to a damaging conspiracy theory within MI5 and the wider intelligence community. Wright's obsession with this theory, which was unsubstantiated, caused internal strife and public embarrassment for the British government when he published his claims in his book 'Spycatcher'.
How did MI5 handle the threat of al-Qaeda post-9/11?
-Post-9/11, MI5 shifted its focus to countering the threat of al-Qaeda and global terrorism. This included monitoring known terrorists, foiling plots, and adapting to new forms of terrorism such as homegrown suicide bombings, which were highlighted by the 7/7 attacks in London.
What was the significance of the Gibraltar shootings in 1988 for MI5?
-The Gibraltar shootings in 1988 were significant for MI5 as they led to allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy and damage to MI5's reputation. The incident also marked a turning point in the fight against the IRA, leading to MI5 taking a more central role in counterterrorism efforts.
What was the role of Juan Pujol, codenamed Garbo, in World War II?
-Juan Pujol, codenamed Garbo, was MI5's most successful double-cross agent during World War II. He helped fool the Germans into believing the D-Day landings would occur at Pas de Calais instead of Normandy, contributing to the success of the Allied invasion.
What was the outcome of the IRA mortar attack on 10 Downing Street?
-The IRA mortar attack on 10 Downing Street was a near-success in terms of causing significant harm, but ultimately failed due to the proximity of the mortar's landing point to the cabinet room. The attack led to MI5 taking over the lead intelligence role against the IRA on the British mainland.
What is the ethos of MI5 regarding the treatment of captured agents?
-MI5 has historically maintained an ethos that information gained under torture is unreliable. During World War II, German agents were interrogated without physical abuse, reflecting a belief that beating a prisoner does not produce reliable information.
Outlines
๐ Opening MI5's Secret Files
This segment introduces the secretive world of MI5, Britain's internal security service, which has historically operated behind the scenes to keep the country safe from threats like global terrorism. For the first time, MI5 opens its archives, revealing its role in preventing attacks and the mysteries surrounding its operations, such as alleged plots against the Prime Minister and the claim of a trade union leader being a KGB agent. The narrative highlights significant moments like the response to 9/11 and delves into the personal experiences of MI5's leaders, underscoring the agency's evolution in the face of changing global threats.
๐ MI5's Evolution and Public Scrutiny
This paragraph delves into MI5's growth and challenges over the years. With a significant budget and workforce, MI5's efforts in intelligence gathering are monumental, yet shrouded in secrecy. The story of Professor Christopher Andrew, tasked with writing MI5's authorized history, exemplifies the balance between transparency and secrecy. Through his extensive research, Andrew uncovered truths and myths surrounding MI5, contributing to a more nuanced understanding of the agency. Despite MI5's efforts to demystify its operations, public and historical scrutiny remains, highlighting the complex relationship between national security and public transparency.
๐๏ธ World War Efforts and Espionage
Focusing on MI5's role during the World Wars, this section underscores its strategic importance in counter-espionage and intelligence. Despite starting small, MI5's success against German spies during World War II is notable, particularly through Operation Double-Cross, which turned German agents into double agents. The narrative also touches on the agency's selective recruitment process and the effectiveness of its strategies, which significantly contributed to the Allied victory. Additionally, the revelation of internal breaches during the war adds a layer of complexity to MI5's history, showcasing the challenges of maintaining security within its ranks.
๐ต๏ธโโ๏ธ The Cold War and Internal Betrayals
This section explores MI5's tumultuous experiences during the Cold War, including the notorious betrayal by Anthony Blunt and others within the British intelligence community. It highlights the intricate web of espionage, where MI5 agents simultaneously served Soviet interests, severely compromising national security. The narrative reflects on the challenges of vetting and the impact of ideological motivations on loyalty, demonstrating how deeply Soviet infiltration went and the long-term implications for British intelligence and political integrity.
๐จ Controversy and Conspiracy Theories
Amidst a backdrop of internal and external threats, this paragraph sheds light on the paranoid atmosphere within MI5, fueled by figures like Peter Wright, who became obsessed with rooting out imagined Soviet moles. The segment also examines the impact of controversial figures and theories, such as the allegations against Sir Roger Hollis and Harold Wilson, on MI5's operations and reputation. These narratives illustrate the complex interplay of trust, suspicion, and political intrigue that has characterized MI5's history and challenged its effectiveness.
๐ Scrutiny and Scandal
This section reveals the scandalous involvement of British figures with Soviet intelligence, as evidenced by MI5's files. The shocking allegations against Jack Jones as a KGB agent and the broader implications for British politics and trade unions are explored. Despite the damaging potential of these revelations, the narrative also emphasizes the complexity of espionage and the difficulty in discerning truth from deception. This part of MI5's history showcases the deep entanglements between British and Soviet interests during the Cold War, leaving a lasting impact on public perception and trust.
๐ฃ The IRA Threat and MI5's Response
Highlighting MI5's role in countering the IRA's campaign of terror, this paragraph discusses the agency's strategic shifts and challenges. The narrative details the intricacies of operations like the controversial shooting in Gibraltar and the audacious attack on 10 Downing Street, illustrating MI5's central role in the British government's counterterrorism efforts. These events underscore the evolving nature of terrorist threats and MI5's adaptability in the face of such challenges, as well as the ethical and operational dilemmas encountered.
๐ The New Age of Terrorism
This segment discusses MI5's confrontation with modern terrorism, particularly post-9/11 challenges posed by al-Qaeda and the emergence of homegrown threats. It reflects on MI5's initial underestimation of the Islamist terror threat and its subsequent efforts to adapt to this new form of warfare. The narrative also touches on the importance of intelligence sharing and international cooperation in combating terrorism, and the ongoing efforts to understand and mitigate the evolving threats.
Mindmap
Keywords
๐กMI5
๐กGlobal Terrorism
๐กDouble-Cross System
๐กOperation Overt
๐กSurveillance
๐กEspionage
๐กIRA
๐กCounter-Terrorism
๐กAl-Qaeda
๐กAuthorized History
Highlights
MI5 has been a secret service working in the shadows for a hundred years, keeping Britain safe from threats like global terrorism.
MI5 has opened its files for the first time to reveal insights into secret operations and historical events, including allegations of plots against the Prime Minister.
Stephen Lander, head of MI5 during 9/11, speaks about the agency's role in countering global terrorism and the immediate response to the attacks.
Post-9/11, MI5 doubled in size and budget, focusing on uncovering terrorist plots to protect the UK from attacks like the 7/7 bombings.
MI5's files reveal the extent of their efforts in counter-terrorism, including the labor-intensive operation to thwart the 2006 liquid explosives plot.
The intelligence community's swift reaction to 9/11 included America's lockdown and cancellation of all transatlantic flights within 24 hours.
MI5's history of counter-espionage during World War II includes the successful Operation Double-Cross, which involved turning German spies into double agents.
The controversial case of Anthony Blunt, a Soviet spy within MI5, who passed on valuable intelligence to Stalin while reporting to Winston Churchill.
MI5 was penetrated by two of its own agents, Folkert van Koutrik and Jack Hooper, during World War II, who had previously worked for the Germans.
The allegations of a sixth mole in MI5, Sir Roger Hollis, were investigated but no concrete evidence of treason was found in the files.
The KGB had an operational file on Harold Wilson, a British Prime Minister, with hopes of recruiting him as an agent, but no evidence of successful recruitment was found.
Jack Jones, a respected trade union leader, was suspected of being a KGB agent, but his family disputes the claims based on the lack of solid evidence.
MI5's handling of the Gibraltar incident in 1988, where three unarmed IRA members were shot dead, led to controversy and allegations of a shoot-to-kill policy.
The IRA's mortar attack on 10 Downing Street in 1991 marked a turning point, leading to MI5 taking the lead intelligence role against the IRA on the British mainland.
MI5's role in facilitating back-channel conversations with the IRA, contrary to official policy, contributed to the peace process and the end of the Cold War.
The emergence of al-Qaida as a new adversary post-9/11 presented a significant challenge to MI5, as the threat shifted from foreign spies to homegrown terrorists.
MI5's ethos, established during World War II, emphasizes the importance of not torturing prisoners as the information obtained is unreliable.
The service's tradition of propriety and strong sense of right and wrong among its staff is considered a healthy and integral part of MI5's culture.
MI5's history shows a mixture of successes and failures, with the organization learning from past mistakes to better address future threats.
Transcripts
for a hundred years
mi5 has been a secret service working in
the shadows its officers and agents kept
Britain safe
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now the world is at war with global
terrorism and we are all on the front
line
mi5 stands between us and horrors like
7/7 but luma and intrigue surrounded
secret operations
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so now for the first time mi5 has opened
its files and we can discover more about
the allegations that they've plotted
against the Prime Minister or that a
famous trade union leader was a KGB
agent and why three terrorists were shot
dead in Gibraltar
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our private secretary so I gotta head
round the door and said I think
something you need to see on the
television
so Steven Lander was head of mi5 when
9/11 changed the world he has never
spoken on television about the atrocity
nor his role as one of those leading the
counter attack against global terrorism
as we were standing looking at the
smoking tower it's pretty obvious to us
that this was our kinda and that's what
I said to the Prime Minister four
o'clock but I thought it was you BL u BL
was Osama bin Laden
suddenly under the blue skies of New
York Tara had a human face answer
Stephen and mi5 knew who he was they had
been watching al-qaeda since the
mid-1990s we knew the world had changed
because of the suicide bomber was the
beginning of a new world really
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the intelligence community and
politicians on both sides of the
Atlantic
reacted swiftly America went into
lockdown all transatlantic flights were
cancelled by one
within 24 hours a c-130 Hercules
secretly took off from RAF Brize Norton
bound for Andrews Air Force Base in
Maryland
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the three security agencies of the
British government were sending their
officers Liza my successor went with
chief in Esaias and the director of GCHQ
and they flew from the UK to us the
Americans had to be nervous letting any
aircraft into their airspace
even with f-16 escorting it to land in
the u.s. very important signal the
American community and government about
you guys the team went straight to CIA
headquarters in Langley in London so
Stephen attended a series of meetings at
number 10 the agenda how secure was
Britain after 9/11 I was Prime Minister
John Scalzi is that shermanology I see
and there was me sitting on the sofas
and we talked about whodunit what it
meant would the UK via targets yes
probably we talked about the training
camps in Afghanistan and how they were
sort of part of this conspiracy that's
where the planning had probably been
done and our concerns about you know it
was at the camps and when they might
come back trying to get your head round
what would this mean for us where we
going to do a lot of scenario planning
and nuclear bombs on westminster bridge
and all that sort of thinking
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since 9/11 mi5 has uncovered more than a
dozen plots to murder thousands of
innocent Britons but it's not the
successes we always hear about failures
are horribly and spectacularly public
and nature tourism is such that when
things go wrong it's jolly visible
because the bomb goes off or people are
killed or something atrocity within the
last decade mi5 has changed focus and
doubled in size after 9/11 it had to
today it has a budget running into
hundreds of millions of pounds and
employs nearly three thousand eight
hundred people none are identified
except the Director General it needs to
be a Secret Service to do its job all
the intelligence they gather is stored
in the registry deep in the basement of
Thames house mi5 s headquarters
almost a hundred years it has been
strictly off-limits to outsiders until
now one man professor Christopher Andrew
has been given unprecedented access to
mi5 files to write it's authorized
history but Andrew was an academic not a
spy he was proposed that I should join
mi5 while I was writing the history I
would never have proposed it but seemed
to me to make quite amount of sense if
you go in to write a history
warts-and-all
people are going to talk to you more
frankly if you're not an outside
contractor who is perceived as
fault-finding it was a fine balance that
he had to achieve he read thousands of
files over six years the difficulty was
to reveal the truth but protect
identities and necessary secrets
I did not have and I should not have had
the last word on what could be released
on what could not but every single
judgment that I arrived at whether it
was comfortable or not for mi5 is there
sir Steven Lander was the
director-general with the controversial
idea of publishing mi5 s history there's
been an awful lot of nonsense written
about mi5 over the years some of that's
helpful a little bit of myths never does
you any harm if you're in that sort of
business but we also got a lot of
criticism which was unjust who just
wasn't real so all those myths that
we've been putting up with you know the
Wilson plot or whether we didn't fecund
invested located in Mickey Mouse or John
Lennon or something all that stuff with
a nuisance to us and sort of held us
down for the first time the real spooks
can tell our own stories from the world
of spies that we only know from fiction
spies on film and TV are stone-faced
close-lipped glamorous they save the
world once an hour the reality isn't
quite the same television portrays
operations of being half dozen people to
cones or something running about you
can't do surveillance without lots of
people without teams working together so
the cult of the individual television
portrays is inaccurate
big investigations involve lots police
forces other people as well and
therefore your the idea that the whole
thing is down as of the Boston six
people is rubbish mi5 s files reveal
that one of the most potentially
dangerous terrorist conspiracies
happened in 2006
the most the important canter terrorist
operation in the whole of British
history sounds exaggerated that it was
not was operation overt and operation
overt discovered and nipped in the bud
at what would have been I think an
al-qaeda success in its own terms on the
scale of 9/11 the bombers planned to
blow up seven transatlantic jets and
murder thousands of passengers in a
coordinated attack to surpass neither
the plan was to use the flash units and
disposable cameras to detonate liquid
explosives in soft drink bottles plot
leader Abdullah Ahmed Ali was a British
born Muslim who'd attended terrorist
training camps in Pakistan with the
leaders of the 7/7 London bombings mi5 s
files show how spoiling the plot
stretched resources to the limit what
we're talking about is tens of thousands
of men and women hours what is achieved
is video footage of them actually
constructing the bombs martyrdom
statements that were obtained from the
Sun and some were again introduced in
evidence at the trial if you work out
how much work was involved I don't think
that any counter-terrorist operation in
British history has ever been as
labor-intensive as that much
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when mi5 began in earnest just before
the first world war
Vernon Cal its first director-general
had a staff of 16 including the
caretaker even so its success rate was
surprisingly high
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it was still a small organization when
world war ii broke out in 1939 but the
German threat was bigger this time the
result was a chaotic and ill planned
expansion friends are friends and those
with the right connections were hastily
hired for quite a long period people who
joined five join because they knew
somebody in it and they were recommended
so there was a sort of there were
personal relationships built up sort of
before you became a member of the
organization
ladies Cynthia posten daughter of the
Duke of Albemarle had been presented to
King Edward the eighth in 1936 before
the Duke and Duchess of York and the
Duke and Duchess of Kent well there were
what is described now as as upper-class
they all came from the top levels of
society
I'm a stepmother new severe ankle and I
went up for an interview at the War
Office and was interviewed by Miss
Dunstable she was an elderly lady
unmarried presumably and the next day
she gave me an assignation to go to
Wormwood Scrubs it was here that mi5
began planning operation double-cross
double cross was the most successful
deception in the entire history of
warfare all German spies who are landed
in Britain with the exception of one for
man who lands in Cambridge and commits
suicide all captured every single one of
them after capturing them they turned
most of them creating double agents who
fed misleading information back to their
German spy masters it mattered
enormously because Hitler bothered a lot
about the reports that came from his
agents in England all of whom he
believed to be genuine butuan German
spies all of whom in fact were mi5
agents and he based a lot of his plans
on information that came from these
spies which was quite untrue mi5 were
amazed by the incompetence of many
German agents they used rather odd and
not in Phibes opinion very high-class
agents they sent over a lot of thugs one
highly distinguished burglar who changed
sides just as well and v was surprised
they didn't use higher class agents they
were all sent by the up fair the Armed
Forces intelligence staff rather than by
the SS in toads and stuff which was a
much more formidable and much more able
body of men this was probably on the
Germans part of a mistake and from which
five benefited
mi5 s most successful double-cross agent
was a Spanish businessman Juan Pujol
codenamed Garbo after the film star
Garber helped fool the Germans into
believing the detai plan was to land in
pas de calais not Normandy after the war
Garber received an MBE from the Queen
he'd already been awarded the Iron Cross
by Hitler when Garbo gets the news that
he has been awarded the Iron Cross he
radios back to his German intelligence
controller at this moment I am so
overcome by emotion that I cannot put my
feelings into words why not he was
rolling around on the floor helpless
with laughter and so was his mi5 case
officer double-crossed shows the
extraordinary British talent for really
superior practical jokes but the outcome
was nearly not so comical mi5 files show
the tragedy was narrowly averted for the
first time it can be revealed the two
German agents did penetrate mi5 mi5 was
penetrated by two people who had a
previous record of working as their
agents one was a man called folkert fan
true trick and somebody called Jack
Hooper the two agents had been working
for mi6 in Holland their cover story was
that they were fleeing the German
invasion mi5 boarded and employed them
luckily they did not advance high enough
in mi5 to jeopardize double-cross
only after the war ended - the pair's
true allegiance come to light when
Wormwood Scrubs was bombed in 1940 mi5
moved to the more salubrious
surroundings of Blenheim Palace their
lady Cynthia met art historian mi5
officer and Soviet spy Anthony Blunt he
was a friend of my brother-in-law's and
you Dina Trinity and I used to meet him
and go out with him to lunch he went
around the Secretary's behaving like
Christopher Robin taking his cod liver
oil and saying things like that's what
Tiggers like it may sound like a pretty
feeble joke though but of the time it
was considered witty it was quite
incredible that blunt was ever accepted
into mi5 given his known communist
connections mi5 already had on record
that he had been to Russia he had
expressed to a number of people his
support for what was going on there and
he actually been expelled from a
military intelligence training course
but here's the problem only a year
before the outbreak of war mi5 only had
30 officers it had to expand
extraordinarily rapidly there wasn't a
proper vetting procedure in place blunt
said his communist interests were linked
to his art history studies he was
believed and lucky to
when Churchill demanded monthly
bulletins of mi5 activities guess who
got the job one most extraordinary
things about Anthony blunts wartime
career in mi5 is that he's reporting to
both Winston Churchill and to Joseph
Stalin Blount passed on so many
documents more than 1700 for years that
his Soviet masters thought him a double
agent they only changed their minds when
10 days before d-day blunt handed over
the complete landing and deception plans
it's all very well to argue that Britain
and the Soviet Union were on the same
side and therefore providing British
intelligence to the Russians is merely
providing intelligence to an ally it is
not as simple as that for a number of
reasons
and one of them is passing on the secret
and that we had broken the German codes
when the Allies captured a German Enigma
machine
they broke its secret code at Bletchley
Park it was one of the most closely
guarded secrets of the wall but blunt
told his Soviet masters about the
breakthrough we do know that the Germans
were able to read some Russian ciphers
now if in the military instructions that
got to Russian troops on the Eastern
Front there had been any reference to
material which could only have been
learnt from breaking German ciphers then
the Germans might have changed those
ciphers and that was an appalling risk
and that was a risk that was taken by
Antony blunt wouldn't have been able
Hitler to win the war but it would have
meant that he would have lost it a good
deal more slowly
after the war Blunt went back to being
an art historian and later surveyor of
the Queen's pictures
he wasn't publicly exposed as a Soviet
spy until 1979
I acted according to my conscience in
during this in nineteen when it was all
said it 536 and that meant de soir to
this country first as I've said it was I
believed it was the right thing in the
cause of enter fascism I now realized
Italy this is totally wrong but Blunt
wasn't working alone he was part of a
network of spies recruited at Cambridge
who infiltrated British intelligence
diverges Donald MacLean John can cross
and kim Philby along with blunt were
known to the KGB as the magnificent five
their tale of treachery is the stuff of
spy novels but what nearly brought the
service to its knees was the suggestion
of a sixth spy
Sir Roger Hollis later director general
of mi5 if he had been a traitor it would
have been the most devastating blow of
all one of the most destructive things
can happen in any organization is to
have a conspiracy theorist who becomes
obsessed by the hunt for imaginary
traitors that is what Peter Wright does
Peter Wright was the self-appointed
Witchfinder general within mi5 he became
convinced there was a soviet mole in the
highest ranks of mi5 his belief became
an obsession when I first joined I was
sent off to see this man he said I was
far too young to be involved in these
things and when I please clear off so I
instantly disliked him he was known as
being not poor he was one of those
people who think they're the only people
who understand something everybody else
reminded in business so he was always
stopping other people doing things as he
knew best we used to call him the KGB
rezident because he was doing more to
help the KGB than anybody else because
he stopped us sort of doing our job when
right retire to Tasmania his Vendetta
continued he went public and fed his
stories to a journalist right away you
could see he was a very devious
character but then all people in mi5 are
after you've got to be it's devious work
you're doing and anyone who said oh I
can't tell a lie I mean he is no good
now my father later
Chapman pincher helped write to find a
publisher for spy catcher it became an
international bestseller selling more
than 2 million copies the British
government's attempts to stop its
publication became a national
embarrassment
I don't feel a bit sympathetic Willie
Allen Peter Wright was a traitor in
their midst of a different kind of
traitor but he was warned the fact that
he did it for money rather than anything
else is horrific for him he caused havoc
externally by publishing the book
internally the day you retire you cease
to have any currency he's sort of
long-term impact was not as much just he
was a pain in the ass to deal with and I
met him but what did the mi5 files say
about Sir Roger Hollis is there any
evidence to show he was a traitor the
Hollis story was always a really stupid
story why because all the way during the
Second World War
Roger Hollis is saying look we can't
afford to start paying attention to the
Soviet target we can't afford to stop
meticulously recording the identities as
well members the British communists that
we come across this went far beyond the
needs of cover so actually he's somebody
who begins to fight the Cold War
even before of the Cold War in the KGB
headquarters in Moscow they were
confounded by the publicity surrounding
Wright and Hollis British intelligence
knew this because their agent told them
they remember sitting in their office or
the head of the British section of the
KGB and she was reading a British
newspaper accessible available for him
only because it was never sold in in the
streets as he was eating why is it there
speaking about Roger
olives such noses can't understand it it
must be some special English trick
directed against us
hidden in the thousands of mi5 files are
the names of other Britons who did spy
for the KGB some at the heart of the
British establishment the idea that a
future British Prime Minister could have
been a Russian spy is almost unthinkable
but some in Moscow and London thought
the unthinkable
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Harold Wilson was a frequent visitor to
Moscow as a junior politician and
businessman the Russians had
extraordinary and very foolish hopes for
Wilson but in the mid-1950s the KGB
opens what it called an agent
operational file on Harold Wilson and
he's given a code name the code name is
holding they actually hope to recruit
him it could be said that Wilson brought
suspicions on himself with his choice of
friends probably his closest friend in
the business world who was a man called
Joseph Kagan who manufactured League
anacs max which Wilson wore regularly
and who became thanks to Harold Sir
Joseph Kagan and later Lord Kagan now
between 1964 and 1971 Lord cake and met
a KGB officer every week who would come
around to his flat asked him for the
latest gossip no it's not likely that
state secrets were passed over but this
is a highly inappropriate friendship for
a prime minister
friendships like this brought Wilson to
the attention of mi5 Wilson's
extravagant praise of Soviet leader
Khrushchev made things worse later
Wilson became suspicious of mi5 was
interested in him and thought they were
leaking stories to the newspapers
he thought that mi5 was feeding with
this information and he also felt that
in the process mi5 were spying on him
and the bug destruction number 10 down
the street to add to Wilson suspicions
America's Secret Service were caught up
in the atmosphere of distrust there was
a problem with the CIA and that is there
was a man there called angleton who were
more prone to suspect people even than
Peter Wright was and he had an operation
there killed him out chief in which they
were looking at the possibility that the
British prime minister was a Soviet
agent and angleton became friendly would
right and so the two stoked each other
out on being reelected in 1974 Wilson
declared to a colleague there are only
three people listening you me and mi5 he
believed that behind the picture of one
of his most illustrious predecessors mr.
Cranston there was some kind of tiny
camera which was observing him he had
always been a conspiracy theorist and he
now begins to believe that the Security
Service is plotting against him he
reaches the stage and when he's going
into the gents in number 10 and put his
finger to his lips he would point to the
light fitting in the ceiling he would
turn on the taps in order to indicate
that it was probably bugged
this is the sad decline of one of the
ablest Prime Minister's that had ever
been in Britain Harold Wilson died in
1995 after suffering dementia only now
has Chris Andrew discovered in the mi5
files that perhaps Wilson's suspicions
had some substance he found a file on
one Norman John Worthington mi5 never
told how it was in the defender file on
him it was given the pseudonym of
Worthington and yet mi5 never
investigated Harold Wilson as such what
the file contained was material about
Harold Wilson's contacts related to the
fact that as we know from KGB archives
the KGB did attempt to recruit him as an
agent never had the slightest success in
doing so
Wilson was innocent but other labor
colleagues weren't John's Stonehouse a
junior minister is best known for faking
his own drowning leaving his clothes on
a Miami Beach and running away to
Australia with his mistress
the mi5 files reveal that for more than
ten years stone house was a Czech agent
he was questioned after a defector named
him but never prosecuted for lack of
admissible evidence
but mi5 s files have revealed a more
serious case of potential treachery this
time by a major trade union figure
former KGB officer Alek Gordievsky who
secretly worked for British intelligence
found his case file in the British
section of the KGB I looked through the
files I was a so-called agents some
agents were very weak doing very little
for the KGB but still it was the kind of
assets then we were supposed to run them
as agents as much as possible then there
was a fellow Jones
Jack Jones was a veteran of the
International Brigade in the Spanish
Civil War he went on to become leader of
the transport and general workers union
hugely popular and widely respected he
died in spring 2009 aged 96 having
become a much-loved champion of old age
pensioners in his retirement the
allegations that Jack Jones was a KGB
agent shocked his surviving family
his youngest son Michael is currently
clearing his father's south London flat
presentative work people I want to see
mr. Andrew must have realized that when
you revealed what's in mi5 files like
this with no real proof that the
nastiest sections of the gutter press in
this country about the seas on these
kind of canards and blow them up and you
know it's very distressing obviously not
just for me but for many members of the
family and I'm very good friends of
Jacob which he had very many of course
in this country because you know he
really did work all his life to try to
improve the conditions for all new
working people the book says that from
1964 to 1968 the KGB regarded Jack Jones
as a later KGB judgment not mi5 judgment
why did the KGB reach that conclusion
because during that period of four years
Jack Jones was willing to provide
confidential but not secret and
certainly not classified labour party
and trade union material to her contact
in the Soviet embassy for which the KGB
was ever so grateful when Czechoslovakia
sprog spring of 1968 was crushed by
Soviet tanks a disillusioned Jones
turned his back on the KGB
in 1982 elec Gordievsky was posted to
london there was a telegram please
resume the contacts with our old agent
Jake Jones so very unwillingly I visited
him ins his flat and invited him to a
restaurant and then I asked the head of
station should I give him money and he
knowing a little bit of Jones's
background said yes give him some cash
what is claimed is that Gordievsky
slipped him 215 pounds it's ridiculous
why my father would never take money for
anything like that
I mean twice turned down the offer of
being in the House of Lords he was
offered endless directorships of
companies because a feather his nest
over and over we could have been living
in a mansion house I showed him the list
of the three union leaders and asked him
to describe each of them who of them can
be recruitable for the KGB and she wrote
on this list who was recruitable for the
KGB she was absolutely proper and very
very vulnerable agents for the KGB
distinguished agent of the KGB
she was very respected by the KGB and
very very much loved by the department
because he was a dream of the KGB so
brilliant and so useful and so well
disciplined these are just reports from
a notorious double agent I don't know
why I should believe anything he says
really I mean he was obviously
professional lawyer
Gordievsky may yet drop another
bombshell
he claims that there is at least one
other important political figure from
that era whose Soviet contacts are
suspicious the security service has got
reasons to keep some names still secret
so spirits of Andrus book is 1,000 pages
but it's not the whole truth
it isn't probably on the sick waters of
the truth
until the late 1960s mi5 s resources had
been devoted to counter espionage
defending the nation from spies at home
abroad even within but then a new threat
emerged
the Provisional IRA began a campaign of
shootings and bombings across the United
Kingdom repeatedly striking of the heart
of the British establishment
the lead Intelligence role in Britain
was run not by the service but by the
Metropolitan Police
but mi5 did have the lead role in
Gibraltar
so the biggest-ever deployment till that
point of mi5 against the IRA takes place
not in the United Kingdom but in
Gibraltar
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in February 1988 an mi5 surveillance
team was working with Spanish police on
operation Flavius the events which
followed became an international
controversy the flames were found by a
TV documentary death on the rock mi5 was
caught up in allegations of a shoot to
kill policy the files show that Siobhan
O'Hanlon a known Provisional IRA
explosives expert was spotted crossing
the Spanish border into Drupal 'te an
mi5 surveillance map survives of her
precise route shows her going into the
Gibraltar Cathedral to light a candle
say a prayer
she believed in the Justice of her
course
Oh Hanlon was on her own surveillance
mission
the IRAs target was the Royal Gibraltar
regiments changing of the guard ceremony
mi5 s files show that O'Hanlon watched
the ceremony then excitedly phoned an
emic an unknown IRA hitman
then she headed back across the border
but when she's back in Spain she sparks
Spanish surveillance so she goes back to
Island and that saves her life according
to the files Siobhan was replaced by
Mairead Farrell mi5 s roles to
coordinate intelligence plan a response
to the IRA team and guide and advise the
police as the operation unfolded events
reached a climax on Sunday March the 6th
1988 at 2:25 that afternoon Farrell and
McCann were observed crossing La Linea
checkpoint on foot by an mi5
surveillance team a third terrorist
Shawn savage drove across the border
unnoticed later the three met in a park
at around 3:40 an SAS team intercepted
and shot all three dead did the soldiers
give a warning they didn't give them the
option of surrendering line ago or
defending themselves they just killed
him and I think that was not that was
not a good thing I don't think it was
right and proper the mi5 files paint a
picture of the SAS team facing a classic
dilemma they said they couldn't risk the
parked car being a car bomb or they I
are a team
drawing weapons but it turned out that
the IRA team was unarmed and there was
no bomb in their car what you have to
say is there were plenty of
opportunities to arrest those IRA
members before they got into job rota
and since they were unarmed could they
have been taken without shooting perhaps
and the final thing you've got to ask is
do you employ the SAS if you want people
to be taken alive I'm entirely satisfied
from looking at files that this was not
shoot to kill if there had been any
deliberate intention to shoot to kill
then press lines would have been
prepared to explain why it was that
they'd been killed one of the reasons
for the confusion afterwards is that
there was absolutely no government line
on why these three people had been shot
which is why ministers contradict
themselves the following day if they've
been a deliberate policy the story would
have been worked out in advance I think
one of the problems that Christopher
Andrew has got with this book is that he
is has
Orion who tells the truth but he's right
in the history of an institution an
organization that doesn't always tell
the truth in fact most organizations
don't they have this thing called the
institutional truth it's not what
happened it's what the organization
wants the rest of the world to think
happened indeed they may persuade
themselves it happened but it didn't an
inquest absolved the SAS of any
wrongdoing later the European Court of
Human Rights ruled the killings
unnecessary mi5 felt damaged by the
Gibraltar incident because if you are
accused in a BAFTA winning film of
operating a shoot-to-kill policy and
many people believe that then you put
your reputation and your morale is
necessarily affected three years after
the Gibraltar shootings another IRA
operation in the heart of the British
government put mi5 in a central
counterterrorism role in an audacious
attack the IRA fired mortars at 10
Downing Street just as Prime Minister
John Major was holding a cabinet meeting
major said afterwards that he had been
told that if the mortar which was fired
from a white van on Horse Guards Evanier
had got ten foot placing they would have
been deaths in the cabinet room and he
was very close to being the biggest
success in the entire history of Irish
Republican terrorism it was a turning
point major was very very annoyed he
reached the conclusion that it was time
for the lead intelligence role against
the IRA on the British mainland to be
transferred to mi5 for the first time
soon afterwards it emerged that majors
government was involved in back-channel
conversations with the IRA contrary to
official policy the files in mi5 s
headquarters confirmed that a number of
its officers were instrumental in making
these talks happen we won't these
discussions they were really important I
think because they started the process
or they reinforced the process of
Originals thinking about politics and
thinking about the potential for
political gains absent violence this
will be the image Remembered in history
the austere unionist
and shin fade leaders applauding the
same thing with Irish terrorists laying
down their arms in favor of the ballot
box and the cold war over mi5 was
looking at an uncertain future in the
late 1990s
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then a new adversary appeared bigger
than any that had gone before
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when 9/11 shocked the world al-qaida was
already on mi5 s radar but no one was
prepared for suicide bombers using
planes the service was slow copying on
to al-qaeda
so was the whole of Whitehall so was the
whole of the media in fact mi5 had
already foiled an al-qaeda inspired plot
without fully realizing it so far as we
know the first Islamist bomb factory
almost established in Britain happened
over a year before 9/11 fortunately the
man who was seeking to establish it who
was simply called my newell aberdeen was
under surveillance he was caught in
operation large he was arrested he is
now spending a long time in prison at
that stage we were rather thinking about
foreign nationals coming into the
country because that's what we here to
see avidin was of Bangladeshi origin but
a British citizen the rules of
engagement were changing and a new
threat was emerging
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the events of 7:00 7:00 sharp at mi5 and
the police counterterrorism unit they
had not expected homegrown suicide
bombers it became clear within a day or
two that what we were looking at was
British suicide bombers a completely new
challenge for us and one of the biggest
changes in terms of directing a response
to counterterrorism now what we see is
just simply a determination to kill as
many people as possible that seems to be
the ambition of terrorists both here and
overseas and the casualty toll is
immeasurably higher than it was from the
Irish terrorist threat thing about the
IRA is they always wanted to go and have
a Guinness they weren't you know martyrs
so you could you could take some ranging
shots as to what they might do which
were easier than current targets if we
can learn anything from history
it's that al-qaeda and those groups
actually repeat they're targeting they
repeat their attack methods they've
tried it before they tried it in 2006
and I have no doubt at all that they
will try it again after seven seven came
criticism why hadn't mi5 identified and
stopped the Bombers the Intelligence and
Security Committee concluded that the
number of potential terrorists was
greater than the resources mi5 had to
deal with a threat
for years on mi5 is being called to
answer another allegation complicity in
torture Binyam Mohamed el Habashi an
Ethiopian born UK resident claims he was
tortured in Pakistan and Morocco and
that his torturers received questions
and materials from British intelligence
the allegations are still unproven but
of true run contrary to an mi5 ethos
established during the Second World War
German agents were interrogated at Camp
Oh - OH
in Surrey run by Colonel Robin Stevens
known as 10i he was called deny because
he always wore a monocle
he had the manners and the appearance of
a Prussian sergeant major but as the
people okay me and tell them they were
reptiles he was good to treat them as
reptiles unless it would work with him
he had one cast-iron rule which he
insisted on all his staff following you
must never actually touch a prisoner any
sort of beating him up he's absolutely
out of the question
quite right - because if you once start
beating a man up people tell you
anything you like to get you to stop
beating him up doesn't mean that what he
tells you is true
Tinh I believed information gained under
torture was not reliable and that ethos
seems as old as the service itself in
one of the questions of course that
crops up from time to time is we want to
get as much as we can out of captured
agents should we torture them and the
answer is no repeatedly in the mi5 files
why do I believe these files wealth
because they were written I know from
some of the things that were written in
them by people who had not the slightest
idea that there was the slightest
possibility that what they wrote would
ever become no mi5 files were not to
become now at any point full-stop
ever it is certainly the case that
people who joined the service are
expected to have strong views about
propriety
generally speaking you couldn't get them
to do something naughty because I
wouldn't do it they'd say no no that's
not proper and that's a good thing it's
healthy and the staff sort of own sense
of what's right and wrong is a very in
strong part of the services tradition
the final word lies with the police and
the courts but it might be one of those
controversies that even the fires cannot
let arrest after six years studying its
secrets Christopher Andrew believes the
files don't just have lessons for mi5 I
think that the old saying that those who
do not understand past mistakes are
jolly likely to repeat them happened in
the case of mi5 as it happened in the
case of British government time after
time after time after a hundred years
mi5 is proud of its history but
realistic about its future some of the
things we've done have been first class
and some of the things haven't been
first class you know kind of get all the
judgments right you're not gonna get the
intelligence you need on every case so
you expect not to win every war as we're
not doing every pattern just win the
wars
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