How do we Fix Pioneer?

d00mwake
17 Aug 202416:57

Summary

TLDRIn this discussion video, Doomwake examines the current state of the Pioneer format in Magic: The Gathering, focusing on recent ban list announcements and their impact on the metagame. He reviews the bans of K the Great Creator and Geological Appraiser, the unbanning of Smuggler's Copter, and the rise of Ratos Vampires and Amalia combo decks. Doomwake expresses concerns about the dominance of a few decks and suggests potential bans to increase metagame diversity, including Saurin, Wild Growth Walker, and Treasure Cruise, to foster a healthier and more varied Pioneer environment.

Takeaways

  • ๐Ÿš€ Pioneer format has faced challenges, but there's optimism for improvements.
  • ๐Ÿ—“๏ธ A look back at the December 2023 ban list reveals significant changes with K the Great Creator and Geological Appraiser banned, and Smuggler's Copter unbanned.
  • ๐Ÿ”ฎ The ban on K the Great Creator was due to its broad range facilitating complex combos and suppressing other cards.
  • ๐Ÿšซ Geological Appraiser's ban was a response to its turn three combo potential, deemed unhealthy for Pioneer.
  • ๐Ÿ›ฌ Smuggler's Copter's unbanning was met with mixed reactions but has since become a part of the metagame without major disruptions.
  • ๐Ÿ† The March 11th announcement followed a Pro Tour win by Chainfire Ball and Seth Manfield, highlighting the impact of recent sets on the format.
  • ๐Ÿ“ˆ The May 13th announcement noted a continued health in Pioneer, with a rise in Modern Black Waste Knot decks utilizing The Punisher.
  • ๐Ÿ”„ June 24th saw no changes to the format, but a close watch on the evolving Amalia combo deck for its negative play experience.
  • ๐Ÿ“Š Current metagame analysis shows Ratos Vampires, ABS Amalia, and Phoenix as dominant, occupying over 62% of the metagame.
  • ๐Ÿ” The video suggests potential bans or restrictions on Saurin, Wild Growth Walker, and Treasure Cruise to diversify the metagame and address the dominance of certain decks.

Q & A

  • What was the main topic of Doomwake's discussion video?

    -The main topic was the state and health of the Pioneer format in Magic: The Gathering, including a discussion on recent ban list announcements and the current metagame snapshot.

  • Which cards were banned in the December 2023 ban list announcement?

    -In the December 2023 ban list announcement, 'Karn Liberated' and 'Geological Appraiser' were banned, while 'Smuggler's Copter' was unbanned.

  • What was the reasoning behind banning 'Karn Liberated' according to the script?

    -The script mentions that 'Karn Liberated' was banned because its broad range could facilitate convoluted infinite combos, making the format less approachable with little to no opportunity cost.

  • How did the unbanning of 'Smuggler's Copter' affect the Pioneer metagame?

    -According to the script, 'Smuggler's Copter' has been a relatively decent part of the metagame without having a warping effect, being adopted in various aggro decks.

  • What significant event occurred after the March 11th banned and restricted announcement?

    -After the March 11th announcement, the Pro Tour happened, which was won by 'Channel Fireball' and Seth Manfield piloting 'Ratos Vampires', marking a significant impact on the metagame.

  • What was the outcome of the May 13th ban list announcement regarding the health of Pioneer?

    -The May 13th announcement stated that Pioneer remained in a healthy state, with a diverse metagame and the breakout 'Ratos Vampires' deck continuing to be a significant part of it.

  • What was the percentage of the metagame share for 'Ratos Vampires' as of the recording date in the script?

    -As of the recording date, 'Ratos Vampires' had a metagame share of 27.8%.

  • What decks were dominating the Pioneer metagame according to the script?

    -The script states that 'Ratos Vampires', 'ABS Amalia', and 'Phoenix' were dominating the metagame, with a combined share of over 62%.

  • What are the three cards that the script suggests banning to increase metagame diversity?

    -The script suggests banning 'Saurin, Imperious Blood Lord', 'Wild Growth Walker', and 'Treasure Cruise' to increase metagame diversity.

  • What is the script's opinion on the current state of the 'Phoenix' deck in Pioneer?

    -The script suggests that while 'Phoenix' has a strong presence, it offers a lot of interaction points and is not as problematic as other decks like 'Ratos Vampires' or 'Amalia'.

  • What is the script's view on the impact of 'Ratos Vampires' and 'Amalia' on the Pioneer format?

    -The script views 'Ratos Vampires' and 'Amalia' as problematic due to their ability to end games quickly and put pressure on the format to force early and frequent interactions.

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