How do we Fix Pioneer?

Summary

In this discussion video, Doomwake examines the current state of the Pioneer format in Magic: The Gathering, focusing on recent ban list announcements and their impact on the metagame. He reviews the bans of K the Great Creator and Geological Appraiser, the unbanning of Smuggler's Copter, and the rise of Ratos Vampires and Amalia combo decks. Doomwake expresses concerns about the dominance of a few decks and suggests potential bans to increase metagame diversity, including Saurin, Wild Growth Walker, and Treasure Cruise, to foster a healthier and more varied Pioneer environment.

Takeaways

• 🚀 Pioneer format has faced challenges, but there's optimism for improvements.
• 🗓️ A look back at the December 2023 ban list reveals significant changes with K the Great Creator and Geological Appraiser banned, and Smuggler's Copter unbanned.
• 🔮 The ban on K the Great Creator was due to its broad range facilitating complex combos and suppressing other cards.
• 🚫 Geological Appraiser's ban was a response to its turn three combo potential, deemed unhealthy for Pioneer.
• 🛬 Smuggler's Copter's unbanning was met with mixed reactions but has since become a part of the metagame without major disruptions.
• 🏆 The March 11th announcement followed a Pro Tour win by Chainfire Ball and Seth Manfield, highlighting the impact of recent sets on the format.
• 📈 The May 13th announcement noted a continued health in Pioneer, with a rise in Modern Black Waste Knot decks utilizing The Punisher.
• 🔄 June 24th saw no changes to the format, but a close watch on the evolving Amalia combo deck for its negative play experience.
• 📊 Current metagame analysis shows Ratos Vampires, ABS Amalia, and Phoenix as dominant, occupying over 62% of the metagame.
• 🔍 The video suggests potential bans or restrictions on Saurin, Wild Growth Walker, and Treasure Cruise to diversify the metagame and address the dominance of certain decks.

Q & A

What was the main topic of Doomwake's discussion video?

The main topic was the state and health of the Pioneer format in Magic: The Gathering, including a discussion on recent ban list announcements and the current metagame snapshot.

Which cards were banned in the December 2023 ban list announcement?

In the December 2023 ban list announcement, 'Karn Liberated' and 'Geological Appraiser' were banned, while 'Smuggler's Copter' was unbanned.

What was the reasoning behind banning 'Karn Liberated' according to the script?

The script mentions that 'Karn Liberated' was banned because its broad range could facilitate convoluted infinite combos, making the format less approachable with little to no opportunity cost.

How did the unbanning of 'Smuggler's Copter' affect the Pioneer metagame?

According to the script, 'Smuggler's Copter' has been a relatively decent part of the metagame without having a warping effect, being adopted in various aggro decks.

What significant event occurred after the March 11th banned and restricted announcement?

After the March 11th announcement, the Pro Tour happened, which was won by 'Channel Fireball' and Seth Manfield piloting 'Ratos Vampires', marking a significant impact on the metagame.

What was the outcome of the May 13th ban list announcement regarding the health of Pioneer?

The May 13th announcement stated that Pioneer remained in a healthy state, with a diverse metagame and the breakout 'Ratos Vampires' deck continuing to be a significant part of it.

What was the percentage of the metagame share for 'Ratos Vampires' as of the recording date in the script?

As of the recording date, 'Ratos Vampires' had a metagame share of 27.8%.

What decks were dominating the Pioneer metagame according to the script?

The script states that 'Ratos Vampires', 'ABS Amalia', and 'Phoenix' were dominating the metagame, with a combined share of over 62%.

What are the three cards that the script suggests banning to increase metagame diversity?

The script suggests banning 'Saurin, Imperious Blood Lord', 'Wild Growth Walker', and 'Treasure Cruise' to increase metagame diversity.

What is the script's opinion on the current state of the 'Phoenix' deck in Pioneer?

The script suggests that while 'Phoenix' has a strong presence, it offers a lot of interaction points and is not as problematic as other decks like 'Ratos Vampires' or 'Amalia'.

What is the script's view on the impact of 'Ratos Vampires' and 'Amalia' on the Pioneer format?

The script views 'Ratos Vampires' and 'Amalia' as problematic due to their ability to end games quickly and put pressure on the format to force early and frequent interactions.

Outlines

00:00

🃏 Pioneer Format Discussion and Ban List Analysis

The paragraph discusses the current state of the Pioneer format in Magic: The Gathering, focusing on recent ban list announcements and their impact on the metagame. The narrator, Doomwake, reviews the December 2023 ban list, which saw 'Karn Liberated' and 'Geological Appraiser' banned, and 'Smuggler's Copter' unbanned. The rationale behind these changes is examined, highlighting how 'Karn' was seen as too powerful and 'Geological Appraiser' as a turn three combo threat. The unbanning of 'Smuggler's Copter' is also discussed, noting its relatively benign presence in the metagame since its return. The paragraph sets the stage for a deeper dive into the health of the Pioneer format and potential solutions to its issues.

05:00

📉 Impact of New Cards and Metagame Shifts

This section delves into the influence of new card releases on the Pioneer format, particularly following the March 11th banned and restricted announcement. The paragraph discusses the performance of 'Chainfire Fireball' and 'Ratos Vampires' at the Pro Tour, which led to a reevaluation of the metagame. It also touches on the rise of 'Waste Knot' decks and their impact on the format, especially against 'Phoenix' decks. The narrator reflects on the diversity of viable strategies in Pioneer, suggesting that while the format was in a good place, certain decks like 'Ratos Vampires' and 'Amalia Combo' were becoming dominant, leading to a less diverse metagame.

10:02

🧛‍♂️ Vampires' Dominance and Combo Deck Concerns

The focus of this paragraph is the rise of 'Ratos Vampires' and its impact on the Pioneer format. The narrator critiques the deck's combo-oriented playstyle, which often revolves around 'Saurin, the Pureblood' and 'Veil of Summer', leading to quick game endings. The paragraph also addresses the issue of 'Amalia Combo', which, despite being a less prevalent deck, is criticized for its ability to draw the game, negatively affecting the play experience. The narrator suggests that the format's health is at risk due to the dominance of a few decks and calls for changes to increase metagame diversity.

15:04

🔥 Addressing the Health of the Pioneer Metagame

In the final paragraph, the narrator proposes potential changes to the Pioneer format to address the dominance of 'Ratos Vampires', 'Amalia Combo', and 'Phoenix' decks. Specific cards such as 'Saurin, the Pureblood', 'Wild Growth Walker', and 'Treasure Cruise' are suggested for banning to decrease the decks' consistency and encourage a more diverse metagame. The paragraph concludes with a call for community discussion and a desire to see a healthier, more varied Pioneer format that aligns with the goals set forth by the game's administrators.

Keywords

💡Pioneer format

The Pioneer format is a Magic: The Gathering paper and online format that allows cards from the current set and all sets back to Return to Ravnica. It is a competitive format that aims to provide a diverse and healthy metagame. In the video, the discussion revolves around the health and diversity of this format, with the host analyzing recent ban list announcements and their impact on the Pioneer metagame.

💡Ban list announcement

A ban list announcement in Magic: The Gathering refers to the official list of cards that are restricted or banned from play in a specific format. In the context of the video, the host discusses the December 2023 ban list announcement, which included the banning of 'Karn Liberated' and 'Geological Appraiser', and the unbanning of 'Smuggler's Copter', highlighting their effects on the Pioneer format.

💡Metagame

The metagame in a competitive card game like Magic: The Gathering refers to the ecosystem of decks and strategies that players use in tournaments and casual play. The video discusses the current metagame snapshot of Pioneer, analyzing the prevalence of certain decks like 'Ratos Vampires', 'Amalia Combo', and 'Phoenix', and how they dominate the format.

💡Combo deck

A combo deck in Magic: The Gathering is a strategy that aims to execute a specific sequence of cards to achieve a game-winning advantage or to win the game outright. The video mentions 'Ratos Vampires' and 'Amalia Combo' as combo decks in the Pioneer format, with the host expressing concerns about their ability to end games quickly and the negative impact on the format's diversity.

💡Smuggler's Copter

Smuggler's Copter is a card in Magic: The Gathering that was previously banned but was unbanned as per the December 2023 ban list announcement. The video discusses its reintroduction into the Pioneer format and how it has been adopted in various aggressive decks without warping the metagame as it did in the past.

💡Regional Championship qualifiers

Regional Championship qualifiers are tournaments in Magic: The Gathering where players can earn invitations to the Regional Championships. The video mentions these qualifiers as a significant part of the competitive calendar, noting that the metagame's health is important for these events, and that ban list announcements often consider their timing.

💡Macro archetypes

Macro archetypes refer to broad categories of decks in Magic: The Gathering, such as aggro, control, mid-range, and combo. The video discusses the importance of having a diverse metagame where all macro archetypes are viable, which is a goal stated by the format's maintainers. However, the host argues that the current Pioneer metagame is not reflecting this diversity.

💡Saurin, the Great Lord

Saurin, the Great Lord is a card in Magic: The Gathering that is part of the 'Ratos Vampires' combo, which is a dominant strategy in the Pioneer format. The video discusses the card as a key component of a combo that can end games quickly, which the host suggests might be too powerful and lead to a less diverse metagame.

💡Veil of Summer

Veil of Summer is a card mentioned in the context of the 'Amalia Combo' deck in the Pioneer format. The video discusses how certain cards, like 'Veil of Summer', contribute to the combo's ability to draw the game, which is considered a negative play experience and a point of concern for the health of the format.

💡Treasure Cruise

Treasure Cruise is a card in Magic: The Gathering known for its power level and history of being restricted in other formats. The video discusses the card in the context of the 'Phoenix' deck, suggesting that it might be too strong for the Pioneer format and could potentially contribute to a less diverse metagame.

Highlights

Pioneer format is in a bit of a weird spot, with a discussion needed on its health and recent ban list announcements.

The December 2023 ban list saw K the Great Creator and Geological Appraiser banned, while Smuggler's Copter was unbanned.

K's broad range was cited as a reason for its ban, as it facilitated convoluted combos and suppressed other cards' playability.

Geological Appraiser was banned for enabling turn three combo decks, which are undesirable in Pioneer.

Smuggler's Copter's unbanning was met with initial hesitation but has since become a decent part of the metagame.

The March 11th announcement followed the Modern Pro Tour, aiming for a more diverse Pioneer metagame.

Recent sets have continued to impact the format, with cards like True-Name Nemesis and Vein Ripper making significant impacts.

The May 13th announcement stated that Pioneer remains in a healthy state, with a decline in Phoenix's win rate attributed to the rise of Rats.

The June 24th announcement noted a flood of results from Regional Championship qualifiers, with a mixed bag of deck performances.

Amalia combo decks are being monitored due to their ability to draw the game, which is a negative play experience.

No changes were made to the format in June, as there was still room for the metagame to shift around the Amalia combo.

The metagame snapshot as of August 6th, 2024, shows Rats Vampires at 27.8%, ABS at 17.6%, and Phoenix at 12.2%, dominating the metagame.

The top three decks in Pioneer take up over 62% of the metagame, which is a significant concentration.

The discussion suggests that aggro, control, and mid-range decks are underrepresented in the current metagame.

Ratos Vampires are considered a combo deck due to their reliance on specific combos to win games quickly.

Amalia combo decks are problematic because they can force draws, which is undesirable in tournament play.

Treasure Cruise in Phoenix decks is a point of contention due to its history of being overpowered in other formats.

The video suggests banning Saurin, Wild Growth Walker, and Treasure Cruise to increase metagame diversity.

Weakening the consistency of decks like Amalia and Phoenix might be considered to improve the format's health.

The goal is to increase the diversity and health of the metagame, which has been a stated intention of previous ban announcements.

Transcripts

Pioneers got some problems but I think

we can fix

them what's up guys doomwake here and

welcome back to another discussion video

on the channel as you can see by the

title in the intro Pioneer is in a bit

of a weird spot right now and I wanted

to have this discussion to go over maybe

the history of some recent ban list

announcements where they stand on the

state and the health of the pioneer

format as well as a current metagame

snapshot uh all of those things combined

and we'll talk about what I think could

potentially help fix the format long

term first and foremost as with these

discussion videos please be sure to let

me know in the comments section down

below if you guys enjoy this type of

content let me know what you would like

to see as far as a discussion video is

concerned and with all of that said let

us start by taking a look back at the

December

2023 ban list announcement here is an

excerpt here now for context this is the

announcement where K the great Creator

and geological appraiser were both

banned and Smuggler's copter was

unbanned now I feel like a lot of people

expected the geological appraiser ban K

was not necessarily on everybody's radar

like I think a lot of people thought

that it was a possibility that K would

eventually go but I don't think people

necessarily expected it to go at this

particular time but just reading the

second paragraph here they said K's

range is so broad it can facilitate

convoluted infinite combos that make the

format less approachable at little to no

opportunity cost we might rehash that

statement a little bit later

additionally K's ability to naturally

suppress artifacts is likely keeping a

spread of interesting cards from being

played while it has recently been on the

decline in terms of metagame share it is

clear that the deck has had a warping

effect in the metagame for too long and

for these reasons car the great crater

is banned as far as The Smuggler copter

and geological appraiser are concerned

appraiser kind of obvious we don't need

to go into too much discussion about

that it was a turn three combo deck they

don't want that stuff in Pioneer and as

far as Smuggler copter is concerned I

think there was a bit of hesitation

myself included I was actually kind of

shocked when they unbanned copter but I

think for the most part it seems to be a

relatively decent part of the metag game

the initial builds of vampire I think

the channel Fireball list if I recall

correctly I think had two copies of

Smuggler copter I played a lot of it in

the gr Vehicles deck and various aggro

decks have adopted it over the past 9

months or so however long it's been

legal but I think overall it hasn't

really had a warping effect in the metag

game as much so as it was previously for

the reasons that it was previously

banned in the format in like the mono

black aggro deex so now let's fast

forward to the March 11th banned and

restricted announcement this was the one

directly after the modern prot tour

happened which for context Was Won by

chainel Fireball and Seth Manfield

piloting ratos vampires which was the

breakout deck of the tournament this was

protour murders of Carlo Manor which

means vain Ripper had just been released

and to be honest with you I don't think

this deck was on anybody's radar it was

definitely not on mine I was somebody

who was playing a lot of pioneer at that

time Channel had mostly been Pioneer

focused and that is definitely an

interaction that I missed I'm sure a lot

of other people had missed it as well

but with them talking about the format

after the pro tour said we made a few

changes during our last announcement

with the goal of setting up the stage

for a more fun and diverse Pioneer metag

game which to be fair to their credit I

think they did achieve by Banning

geological and K I think it really

opened up the metag game a little bit

more recent sets continue to impact the

format with cards printed over the last

year appearing in top decks true no more

lies deduce meticulous archive Amalia

picklock prankster slight of hand Arch

jid's charm and vein Ripper all cards

from recent sets that have all made a

huge impact in the format the recently

unbanned Smugglers copter also made an

appearance in the aformentioned Rose

vampires as well as is it in Soul lists

with new cards impacting the format and

a slew of viable strategies Pioneer is

in a great spot for our upcoming

Regional Championship qualifiers

beginning in April now to their credit

when they made this statement right

before the Regional Championship

qualifier season had started I kind of

agree with that and back at that time

the metag game was a little bit more

diverse this was when vampires had first

been discovered and not become this

potential Terror of the metag game that

we might talk about in a little bit but

I think overall the format was

relatively healthy this was when Phoenix

started to pick up a little bit more in

popularity and then you had the amolia

deck that had just come out with lost

caverns of Exelon that was the set prior

to that but those lists were still a

little untuned and still not quite

refined to the point where they are

today I think overall at that point the

metag game was relatively healthy fast

forward a little bit to May 13th of this

year this is the announcement that was a

couple of months after the pro tour they

said Pioneer remains in a healthy state

after protour murders at colov Manor the

breakout ratos vampires deck from the

protor utilizing ve Ripper has proven

that it is not a fluke and continues to

be an important part part of the pioneer

medic game prevalence has contributed to

a decline in Phoenix's win rate which I

don't know if I necessarily buy that

100% I don't exactly know what sort of

data they use maybe they have like a

specific win rate Matrix for magic

online data but as a phoenix player I

think that match up is closer than a lot

of other people think a deck that we've

been monitoring coming out of the

protour given its large degree of

success there and then they said here

the biggest shakeup coming out of

Outlaws of Thunder Junction was a large

metagame increase in modern black waste

knot decks utilizing the brand new carc

The Punisher where those waste knot

decks today huh carc has a massive card

Advantage engine alongside all of your

interactions that commit crimes and

another strategy that can meaningfully

play four copies of go blank as a

powerful option against the front

running Phoenix now to be fair at the

time Phoenix was still one of the more

do if not the more dominant deck than

ratos vampires people hadn't really

necessarily fully made the switch to

vampires now this is an important piece

which we will see this trend continue in

the next band list announcement for now

Pioneer is in a great place for playing

any macro archetype is viable aggro

control mid-range or combo with tools

for each strategy to address one another

and now if we fast forward to June 24th

this was the most recent band list

announcement now they start off by

saying we are seeing a flood of results

in deck list stream in from Pioneer

Regional Championship qualifiers and

it's a mixed bag the biggest positive we

are seeing in the format is that almost

every macro archetype is viable one

thing that we are going to keep a close

eye on is the evolution of the Amalia

combo deck a creature combo deck we are

generally positive on it unfortunately

its ability to draw the game is a

negative play experience which I 100%

agree with we are making no changes to

the format today as we still see room

for the meta game to shift around the

surge of aalia combo and because

Regional Championship qualifiers for

Pioneer continue to Mid July we don't

like to disrupt those events mid-season

so that is the last couple of ban

announcements in including the Banning

of K and geological appraiser now with

all of that said it seems to me that

their big take away from these

announcements is that they like when all

macro archetypes are viable aggro

control mid-range and combo now for the

sake of argument let's go ahead and take

a look at the metagame snapshot of the

last 30 days as of recording today last

30 days from August 6th

2024 ratos vampires coming in at a

whopping

27.8% and if you look there's ratos

vampires there and then ratos mid-range

three slots later at 5.8% I went through

the deck lists and I really couldn't

find that much of a difference so if

anybody has any ideas in the comment

section let me know down below but

realistically vampires is at over 33% of

the metagame ABS Animalia 17.6% is it

Phoenix 12.2 now if you combine the

metagame percentage share for those

three decks those three decks alone take

up over 62% of the metagame for context

if you look at the Modern metagame

snapshot over the last 30 days this is

the Nadu format by the way it's right

about half it was around 31% of the top

three decks in modern so if you look at

the top of the metag game it is

extremely topheavy when it comes to

those three decks and I think a lot of

the people's negative complaints that

towards Pioneer specifically revolve

around those three decks now as far as

every macro archetype being viable aggro

control mid-range combo I don't see

aggro I don't see control and I guess

you could argue that Phoenix is this

weird like control mid-range hybrid

right it's really hard to classify is it

Phoenix as a deck by the way there's

definitely games where it can feel like

an aggro deck where you Mill over two to

three phoenixes in the first couple of

turns and start attacking your opponent

for six or nine damage on turn three

there are games where it feels like a

control deck where you just kill all

their stuff and draw a bunch of cards

and even in post boort games you can

play mid-range esque fights with stuff

like crackling drinks Phoenix is good

because it has the ability to adapt

between those three macro archetypes and

maybe that's what they're saying when

they say this but as far as macro

archetypes are concerned I'm seeing a

lot of combo now I might get a lot of

flack for this but ratos

vampires it's a combo deck whether you

want to believe it or not if you go back

and look at the history ratos mid-range

was the best deck for the longest period

of time and even when it was the most

played and the most winning deck I don't

really remember seeing a lot of

complaints about it sure there was the

occasional maybe you want to ban Fable

here and there but for the most part

everybody was kind of just okay with

playing against ratos mid-range because

it was a mid-range deck a true mid-range

deck that played creatures and removal

and four drops

now if you take a look at the vampires

decks nowadays they have some elements

of that but realistically a 100% of the

time their plan a in every single

matchup is just find saurin plus F

Ripper uh also known as show Andel plus

atraxa there's not a lot of differences

there and I think the other big issue

with with saurin plus v Ripper is how

quickly it ends games the ruus mid-range

deck of old used to have to play much

longer games with stuff like blood TI

Harvester and graveyard trespasser and

all these three drops and there were

relevant interactive points and now it's

just oh here's my saurin here's my vein

Ripper if you don't have the very

specific answer that you need to kill my

creature that has Ward sacrifice a

creature on the spot you're just going

to die next turn because bin Ripper also

synergizes so well with the plus

abilities on saurin to sacrifice mols

and it also synergizes with blood tithe

Harvester it's not very difficult to

kill your opponent on turn four with

vampires basically is what I'm saying so

at the end of the day vampires is for

all intents and purposes in my opinion a

combo death now as far as amoia is

concerned the amoia metag game if you're

comparing it to vampires specifically is

much much less than that 17% compared to

around 33

32% but I think the biggest issue for

Amalia which is something that they

addressed in a prior band announcement

that we talked about earlier is the fact

that specifically red archetypes that

have monstrous rage a lot of the plans

in that matchup is specifically the goal

of the red player wants to draw the game

if you go into a match of magic with

your intent on being I want to draw the

game we have kind of a bit of a problem

there all you have to do is go back and

watch the pro tour murders of carof

Manor top eight where Simon neelon

played a seven game match that's all you

need to know on that subject it's just

not good for tournament magic for paper

tournament magic but I think for that

reason alone I would like to see a

little bit of a change and then then as

far as Phoenix is concerned now it it

breaks my heart to say this because I

have been playing a lot of is it Phoenix

over the past two or three months it's a

little strange because you can point to

certain cards in the vampires Animalia

Decks that are problematic like there's

a very specific combo piece it's like

saurin plus ve Ripper or Amalia Plus

Wild growth Walker with is it Phoenix

there's not really a combo going on it's

just a bunch of can trips some card draw

and the creatures but when people talk

about is it Phoenix they all always seem

to talk about one specific card and that

card is treasure Cruise which to its

credit has quite the history of being

broken in multiple different formats

modern Legacy it's restricted in vintage

I believe to my knowledge I think

Pioneer is the only format where you're

allowed to play four copies so yeah it's

got a track record on it so for the sake

of changing the metag game if I am of

the opinion that I think something from

vampires needs to go and something from

mamalia needs to go where is the 44% or

sorry 27 yeah 44% of metagame share

where's that going to go if we don't

remove anything from Phoenix it's

probably going to go towards Phoenix to

be honest with you for the sake of

competitive diversity prior to this

upcoming Regional Championship cycle

preferably am I my wish list again this

is personally if I was in charge of

changing the Pioneer format with the

goal to specifically increase metagame

diversity because three decks taking up

64% of the metagame it's just

unacceptable the three cards that I

would ban are saurin imperious blood

Lord wild growth Walker and treasure

cruise see it's weird because I think

that the Phoenix gameplay and let me

know in the comment section down below

your thoughts on this but I actually

don't mind the Phoenix gameplay maybe

that's because I have become a Phoenix

main myself and I'm sort of taking a

blind eye and being oblivious to the the

fact that what I'm doing is kind of

messed up but there's a lot of

interaction points there's graveyard

hates good against it now obviously Cruz

might be a bit out of bounds and

something that maybe the deck shouldn't

have access to but as far as the Phoenix

gameplay it's not that bad especially

when you're comparing it to stuff like

oh show and tell my vein rer to play on

turn three or literally kill you on turn

three with my Amalia deck in closing

that's one thing that I really want to

bring home about specifically if you go

back to the last B announcement in

December of 2023 the last time they

banned cards from the format geological

appraiser was banned because it was too

consistently able to end the game on

turn three and they only had four copies

of geological appraiser it's not like

you had eight effective copies of that

card and ratos vampires and Amalia also

end the game on turn three a lot of the

time now it's in a different fashion for

sure but they really do put so much

pressure on the format to force you to

interact early and often and then these

very unique ways like you need a

specific removal speed for amolia but

those removal spells are definitely not

good against ve Ripper so I think it's

putting a little bit too much pressure

on the format in terms of the answers

that it's requiring you to play the

speed in which your deck has to operate

the number of creatures that you play in

your deck there are certain Decks that

you just cannot play into a field of

amolia like Grill Vehicles the other

consideration potentially is maybe you

want to just weaken the decks a little

bit maybe weaken their consistency and

if you don't want to kill the decks

outright perhaps there's maybe an

argument to say I don't know Banning a

blood tie Harvester perhaps there's an

argument to Banning collected company or

Court of calling or some other

consistency piece for Amalia maybe with

Phoenix it's really tough because if you

ban a random canant trip they're just

going to like say okay whatever I'll

just play less can trips maybe you could

talk me into the picklock prankster and

make them go back to playing pieces of

the puzzle because three Mana sorcery

versus two minut instant that's a huge

difference maybe there's something you

can do there but I really do think that

if your goal is to specifically increase

the diversity and the health of the

metag game overall which they've said in

previous ban announcements that they are

trying to do I really think that we need

to be addressing all three of those

decks now again not sure if you want to

kill them out right maybe you just want

to decrease their consistency but

something is got to happen let me know

what you thought in the comment section

down below but that is my personal

opinion as someone who has played a lot

of pioneer over the past 9 months or so

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