Thales of Miletus

CH 02: CEC-UGC 02: History, Culture & Philosophy
7 Jan 201827:00

Summary

TLDRThis session delves into the philosophical and scientific contributions of Thales of Miletus, a pre-Socratic philosopher from ancient Greece. Known as the first philosopher in the Western tradition, Thales introduced material monism, proposing water as the fundamental substance of the universe. His theories on natural phenomena, devoid of mythological explanations, laid the groundwork for scientific inquiry. Thales also made significant strides in mathematics, particularly in geometry, with his theorem on circles. His ideas on the cosmos, including the belief that all things are water, and his practical applications of geometry, exemplify his pioneering role in early Greek philosophy.

Takeaways

  • πŸ˜€ Thales of Miletus is recognized as the first philosopher in the Western tradition and a key figure in the development of abstract thought.
  • 🌟 Thales was a pre-Socratic philosopher who sought to explain the world through naturalistic and materialistic principles rather than relying on mythological explanations.
  • πŸ“š He is often referred to as the first scientist due to his innovative approach to understanding the world through mathematics, astronomy, and philosophy.
  • 🌍 Thales proposed that water was the fundamental substance of all things, a theory known as material monism, which was a significant departure from supernatural explanations.
  • πŸ” He is credited with the observation that the Earth floats on water, a theory that was not disproved until the 18th century.
  • πŸ“ Thales is known for his contributions to geometry, particularly for formulating what is now known as Thales' theorem regarding triangles inscribed in a circle.
  • 🌐 His cosmological doctrine suggested that all things ultimately are water, and he believed that even celestial bodies like the Sun and stars are nourished by the evaporation of water.
  • πŸ€” Thales' philosophical approach was characterized by a curiosity and conjectural method, seeking rational and scientific explanations for natural phenomena.
  • πŸ›οΈ He was one of the seven sages of Greece, a group known for their wisdom, and was associated with the aphorism 'know thyself'.
  • πŸ“ˆ Thales' influence extended to his successors in the Milesian school, including Anaximander and Anaximenes, who continued to explore natural philosophy and the nature of the universe.

Q & A

  • Who is Thales of Miletus and why is he significant in the history of philosophy?

    -Thales of Miletus was an early pre-Socratic philosopher, mathematician, and astronomer, born around 624 BC in the Greek city of Miletus. He is considered one of the seven sages of Greece and is often regarded as the first philosopher in the Western tradition. Thales is significant because he was the founder of the Milesian school of natural philosophy and was one of the first to seek naturalistic explanations for the world, without resorting to mythological explanations.

  • What is the cosmological doctrine of Thales?

    -Thales' cosmological doctrine was that water was the first principle, the origin of all things. He believed that everything in the world was composed of water, from which all things emerge and to which they return. This idea was a significant departure from supernatural explanations and laid the groundwork for later scientific thought.

  • What was Thales' contribution to mathematics?

    -Thales is known for his contributions to geometry, particularly for establishing what is now known as Thales' theorem. This theorem states that if a triangle is drawn within a circle with one side as the diameter of the circle, then the opposite angle will always be a right angle. He also made practical contributions to land measurement and was involved in the development of geometry as a discipline.

  • What was the Malaysian school of thought, and how was Thales involved in it?

    -The Milesian school was a school of thought founded in the 6th century BC, exemplified by three philosophers from the Ionian city of Miletus: Thales, Anaximander, and Anaximenes. Thales was the founder of this school, which was characterized by a new questioning approach to understanding the universe, focusing on the nature of matter and change. Each philosopher proposed a different material as the primary principle, indicating a spirit of independent thought and critical discussion.

  • What was Thales' view on the nature of the earth and its support?

    -Thales proposed that the earth floats on water, an idea that was ancient even in his time. He explained this theory by likening the earth to wood and other substances that can float on water. He also suggested that the earth is buoyant, similar to how ships float, and that it is supported by water like a boat.

  • How did Thales' ideas about the earth's shape and its causes of earthquakes compare to modern understanding?

    -Thales hypothesized that the earth floats on water and that earthquakes occur when the earth is rocked by waves. While this differs from the modern understanding of earthquakes as the result of tectonic plate movements, his ideas were among the first attempts to explain natural phenomena without invoking supernatural causes.

  • What was the significance of the aphorism 'know thyself' in relation to Thales?

    -The aphorism 'know thyself' is attributed to Thales and reflects his philosophical approach to self-awareness and introspection. It encapsulates the idea that understanding oneself is a fundamental part of wisdom and is a key theme in his philosophical teachings.

  • What practical contributions did Thales make to society?

    -Thales was known for his practical contributions in various fields. He was involved in business, politics, and was reportedly involved in negotiations that secured favorable terms for Miletus. He also made significant contributions to mathematics and astronomy, and his theorem is still taught today.

  • How did Thales' ideas influence later philosophers and the development of science?

    -Thales' ideas laid the foundation for the development of natural philosophy and the scientific method. His search for naturalistic explanations and his methodical approach to understanding the world influenced later philosophers, including his students Anaximander and Anaximenes, and contributed to the emergence of scientific thought in ancient Greece.

  • What is the significance of Thales' belief that all things are composed of water?

    -Thales' belief that all things are composed of water was significant because it represented an early attempt to find a single, unified principle for the diversity of natural phenomena. This idea of a single substance as the origin of all things was a precursor to later theories in physics and cosmology and marked a shift towards a more systematic and rational approach to understanding the world.

Outlines

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πŸ“œ Introduction to Thales of Miletus

This paragraph introduces Thales of Miletus, a pre-Socratic philosopher, mathematician, and astronomer, who is considered one of the first philosophers in the Western tradition and the founder of the Milesian school of natural philosophy. Born in Miletus around 624 BC, Thales is known for his abstract thoughts on the nature of the world and human life. He is also credited with the idea of material monism, suggesting that all things derive from a single substance, which he identified as water. Thales' contributions to mathematics, astronomy, and philosophy are highlighted, as well as his status as one of the seven sages of Greece. His life, though sketchy in detail, includes anecdotes about his involvement in business, politics, and his prediction of a solar eclipse that halted warfare. The paragraph concludes with his death in 546 BC and the difficulty in separating historical facts from legend regarding his life and works.

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🌐 Thales' Cosmological Doctrine and Contributions to Philosophy

Thales is recognized as one of the first Western philosophers to seek naturalistic explanations for natural phenomena, rejecting supernatural or mythological interpretations. He proposed that water was the primary substance from which all things originated and to which they would return, a view that influenced later philosophers. Thales also speculated on the physics of objects, the nature of life, and the characteristics of the earth, including its support and the cause of earthquakes. His ideas about the cosmos, including the belief that the earth floats on water, were groundbreaking. Thales' moral and political views are also mentioned, advocating for a just society and a form of benevolent tyranny. His contributions to geometry, particularly Thales' theorem regarding triangles inscribed in circles, and his innovations in astronomy are highlighted. The paragraph concludes with Aristotle's acknowledgment of Thales as the founder of natural philosophy and the scientific method.

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🌊 Thales' Hypothesis on the Nature of Water and the Universe

This paragraph delves into Thales' hypothesis that water is the fundamental substance of the universe, capable of transforming into all other elements. It discusses how Thales' theory was supported by observations of natural phenomena such as evaporation and the formation of islands from water. The paragraph also addresses the challenges Thales faced in convincing others of his theory, including the need to explain how water could support the earth and the various states of water. Thales' ideas about the earth's shape, size, and the causes of earthquakes are also mentioned, along with his anticipation of problems that would arise from his theories. The paragraph concludes with the recognition that Thales' ideas were not proven wrong until much later, highlighting the enduring influence of his thoughts.

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πŸ“š The Milesian School and Thales' Legacy in Mathematics

The Milesian school, founded by Thales, is discussed in this paragraph, emphasizing its role in the development of philosophy and science. The school was associated with three philosophers from Miletus: Thales, Anaximander, and Anaximenes, each of whom proposed different primary substances for the universe. The paragraph highlights Thales' practical contributions to geometry, particularly his application of geometric principles to solve real-world problems. It also mentions the practical skill of land measurement, which Thales observed in Egypt and brought back to Greece, contributing to the development of geometry. The paragraph concludes by summarizing Thales' legacy, including his search for knowledge, the scientific method, practical methods, and the development of general principles from specific observations.

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πŸ” Thales' Scientific Method and Contributions to Greek Philosophy

This final paragraph reflects on Thales' role as the first scientist and his practical contributions to philosophy. It discusses his mathematical features, particularly his theorem and its applications. The paragraph also covers the cosmological doctrine of Thales and the teachings of the Milesians. It concludes by summarizing Thales' contributions to ancient Greek philosophy, emphasizing his curiosity, conjectural approach, and the scientific method. The paragraph ends with a prompt for further reading and a thank you note, inviting the audience to another session on a different topic.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Thales of Miletus

Thales of Miletus was an early pre-Socratic philosopher, mathematician, and astronomer, and is often regarded as the first philosopher in the Western tradition. He is known for his attempts to explain natural phenomena through materialistic and naturalistic means rather than relying on supernatural or mythological explanations. In the video, Thales is highlighted as the founder of the Milesian school of natural philosophy and for his innovative search for universal principles in mathematics, astronomy, and philosophy.

πŸ’‘Pre-Socratics

The term 'Pre-Socratics' refers to the early Greek philosophers who lived before Socrates. These thinkers are significant because they laid the groundwork for Western philosophy by exploring the natural world and seeking explanations for phenomena without resorting to myth. The video discusses Thales as one of the first of these thinkers, focusing on his and his successors' contributions to the development of philosophical thought.

πŸ’‘Material Monism

Material Monism is a philosophical doctrine that posits all phenomena in the universe can be explained by the properties and interactions of material substances. In the context of the video, Thales and his successors in Miletus developed theories that derived the entire visible cosmos from a single material principle, such as water, air, or infinite void, exemplifying an early form of material monism.

πŸ’‘Natural Philosophy

Natural Philosophy refers to a branch of philosophy that seeks to understand the natural world and the nature of the universe through empirical observation and rational reasoning. Thales is considered the founder of the Milesian school of natural philosophy, which focused on finding natural explanations for phenomena, as opposed to mythological or theological ones.

πŸ’‘Cosmological Doctrine

A cosmological doctrine is a philosophical or religious belief system concerning the nature of the universe and its origins. Thales' cosmological doctrine, as mentioned in the video, posited that water was the first principle or the originating substance of all things, suggesting that everything in the world was composed of water and returned to it.

πŸ’‘Scientific Method

The Scientific Method is a systematic approach to acquiring knowledge through observation, experimentation, and the formulation of hypotheses. Thales is sometimes described as the first scientist due to his search for universal principles and his use of observation and reasoning to understand the natural world, which prefigured the later development of the scientific method.

πŸ’‘Thales' Theorem

Thales' Theorem is a fundamental principle in geometry stating that if a triangle is inscribed in a circle with one side as the diameter, then the triangle is a right triangle. The video credits Thales with the establishment of this theorem and highlights his practical application of geometric principles to solve real-world problems.

πŸ’‘Anaximander

Anaximander was a pre-Socratic philosopher and a disciple of Thales. He is known for proposing that the infinite or 'apeiron' was the first principle or primary substance of all existence. The video mentions Anaximander as part of the Milesian school, indicating the intellectual lineage and the development of philosophical thought in ancient Greece.

πŸ’‘Anaximenes

Anaximenes was another pre-Socratic philosopher and a disciple of Anaximander. He is noted for suggesting that air was the primary substance of the universe. The video places Anaximenes within the context of the Milesian school, showing the evolution of ideas and the diversity of thought regarding the fundamental nature of the cosmos.

πŸ’‘Seven Sages of Greece

The Seven Sages of Greece were a group of philosophers, statesmen, and lawgivers from the 7th and 6th centuries BC, renowned for their wisdom. Thales is often counted among them, and the video attributes to him the aphorism 'know thyself,' highlighting his status as a wise man and a contributor to the philosophical tradition.

πŸ’‘Polytheism

Polytheism is the belief in multiple gods. Thales is noted for recognizing a single transcendental god, 'Manas,' who expresses himself through other gods, indicating a move towards monotheistic thought within a polytheistic cultural context. The video discusses Thales' views on divinity and their relation to his cosmological and philosophical ideas.

Highlights

Thales of Miletus is considered the first philosopher in the Western tradition and a pioneer in abstract thought.

Thales was a pre-Socratic philosopher, mathematician, and astronomer, and one of the seven sages of Greece.

He founded the Milesian school of natural philosophy, which sought to explain the world through naturalistic principles rather than mythological ones.

Thales proposed that water was the primary substance from which all things in the universe were derived, a theory known as material monism.

His cosmological doctrine suggested that the earth floats on water and that earthquakes occur when the earth is rocked by waves.

Thales is credited with the first known geometric theorem, known as Thales' theorem, which concerns the properties of a circle and a triangle.

He is said to have predicted a solar eclipse, demonstrating his understanding of astronomy.

Thales' ideas about the nature of matter and his search for universal principles earned him the label 'the first scientist'.

His philosophical approach was characterized by a curiosity about natural phenomena and a desire to find rational explanations.

Thales believed that all things have souls or divinities, suggesting a pantheistic view of the universe.

He was known for his practical applications of geometry, such as in land measurement and architecture.

Thales' political views favored a benign tyranny over democracy, reflecting his belief in the rule of the wise.

His moral philosophy included the aphorism 'know thyself', which has become a cornerstone of Western philosophy.

Thales' contributions to mathematics and astronomy laid the groundwork for future scientific inquiry.

The Milesian school, which Thales founded, was characterized by critical discussion and the development of new ideas.

Thales' theories were rational and scientific, setting a precedent for future philosophical and scientific discourse.

His ideas about the earth's support and shape were some of the earliest attempts to explain geographical phenomena.

Thales' legacy includes the development of the scientific method and the pursuit of knowledge for its own sake.

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hello and welcome to the session on

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Thales of Miletus

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abstract thought about the ultimate

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nature of the world and of human life

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began to appear in cultures all over the

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world during the sixth century BC as an

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urge to move beyond superstition towards

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explanation in this unit we focus on its

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embodiment among the ancient Greeks

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whose active and tumult a social life

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provided ample opportunities for the

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expression of philosophical thinking the

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first thinkers of antiquity are referred

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to as the pre-socratics even though some

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of these thinkers were in fact

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contemporaries of Socrates the first

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podcast in the series look at the

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beginnings of Greek philosophy in the

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sixth century BC in the city of Miletus

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and the successors in XE Manta and in XE

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means develop theories refer to as

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material monism deriving the entire

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visible cosmos from a single staff or

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principle of water the infinite and air

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tales of millilitres 624 to 546 BC was

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an early pre-socratic philosopher

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mathematician and astronomer he was one

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of the so-called seven sages of Greece

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and many regard him as the first

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philosopher in the Western tradition he

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was the founder of the Malaysian school

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of natural philosophy and the teacher of

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Annex amantha he was perhaps the first

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subscriber to materialist and naturalism

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in trying to define the substance or

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substances of which all material objects

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were composed which he identified as

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water his innovative search for a

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universality in the disciplines of

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mathematics astronomy and philosophy

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have earned him the label the first

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scientist tales was born in the Greek

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city of Meletis on the Ionian coast of

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modern-day Turkey in about 624 or 625 BC

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the third century AD historian died

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genus lesser Eaters reported that his

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parents were eczemas and

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Leo ballina of the noble million family

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of LED and descended from agna or Cadmus

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of ancient Thebes Greece details of his

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life are sketchy and often contradictory

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some reports suggest that he married and

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had a son

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SCI business some anecdotes suggest that

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tails was involved in business and

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politics and at one point bought up all

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the olive presses in Meletis after

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predicting a good harvest for a

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particular year his involvement in local

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politics is also rather anecdotal in

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nature but tails apparently impressed

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both sides of the ongoing conflict

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between the Lydians Medes and Persians

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over the fate of the region of Ionia

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when he predicted an eclipse of the Sun

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which brought fighting to a standstill

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he was also reportedly involved in the

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negotiations which followed the

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hostilities and managed to obtain

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favorable terms for Meletis tails is

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said to have died of dehydration while

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watching a gymnastics contest in 546 BC

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at the age of 78 the writings of things

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in retrospect it is difficult to

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separate history from legend but he is

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usually considered one of the seven

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sages or seven wise men of ancient

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Greece a group of seventh and early 6th

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century bc philosophers statesmen and

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law givers who became renowned in the

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following centuries for their wisdom the

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aphorism know thyself has been

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attributed to tales much of what we know

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of tales philosophy has come down to us

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from Aristotle and so may be somewhat

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distorted by Aristotle's own views some

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sources say that he left no writing

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others say that he wrote at least two

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works on the Solstice and on the equinox

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tales try to define the substance or

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substances of which

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all material objects were composed as

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new modern scientists even today

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hence tales is sometimes described as

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the first scientist he searched for the

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physics of objects and caused them to

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behave in their characteristic way he

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was one of the first Western

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philosophers who attempted to find

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naturalistic explanations of the world

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without reference to supernatural or

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mythological explanations such as the

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Greek anthropomorphic gods and heroes

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he explained earthquakes for example by

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hypothesizing that the earth floats on

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water and that earthquakes occur when

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the earth is rocked by waves his most

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famous belief was his cosmological

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doctrine that water was the first

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principle it is roughly equivalent to an

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X a means later idea that everything in

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the world was composed of air he claimed

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that water was the origin of all things

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that from which all things emerge and to

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which they return and moreover that all

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things ultimately are water

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he probably drew this conclusion from

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seeing moist substances turn into air

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slime and earth and he clearly viewed

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the earth as solidifying from the water

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on which it floated and which surrounded

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it while considering the effects of

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magnetism and static electricity he

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concluded that the power to move other

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things without the mover itself changing

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was a characteristic of life so that a

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magnet and Amber must therefore be alive

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in some way in that they have animation

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or the power to act if so he argued

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there is no difference between the

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living and the dead if all things were

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alive they must also have souls or

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divinities and the end result of this

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argument was an almost total removal of

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mind from substance opening the door to

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an innovative non Divine Principle

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of Acts

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fales recognized a single transcendental

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god Manas in' who has neither beginning

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nor end but who expresses himself

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through other gods polytheism his idea

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of justice included both the letter of

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the law and the spirit of the law

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for example adultery and perjury about

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it in code are equally bad he had some

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common sense moral advice that we should

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expect the same support from our

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children that we give to our parents

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that we should not let talk influence us

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against those we have come to trust and

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that we should not do ourselves that for

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which we blame others

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he believed that a happy man was one who

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was healthy in body resourceful in soul

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and of a readily teachable nature his

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political views were generally in favor

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of a benign tyranny rather than

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democracy

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he believed that men were naturally

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better than women and that Greeks were

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better than barbarians non-greeks tails

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was known for his theoretical and

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practical understanding and innovative

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views of geometry specially triangles he

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established what has become known as

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tails theorem way by if a triangle is

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drawn within a circle with the long side

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as a diameter of the circle then the

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opposite angle will always be a right

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angle as well as some other related

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properties derived from this he was also

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an important innovator in astronomy and

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he had an effective theory of the path

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of the Sun from solstice to solstice and

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supposedly correctly predicted a solar

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eclipse some sources have attributed him

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with the discovery of the seasons of the

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year and the 365 day year his

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questioning approach to the

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understanding of heavenly phenomena

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arguably marked the real beginning of

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Greek astronomy fails us

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marry principal Aristotle defined wisdom

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as knowledge of certain principles and

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casas he commenced his investigation of

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the wisdom of the philosophers who

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preceded him tails is considered as the

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founder of natural philosophy for tales

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this nature was a single material

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substance water despite the more

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advanced terminology which Aristotle and

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Plato had created

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Aristotle recorded the doctrines of

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Thales in terms which were available to

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tales in the sixth century BC Aristotle

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made a definite statement and presented

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it with confidence it was only when

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Aristotle attempted to provide the

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reasons for the opinions that tales held

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and for the theories that he proposed

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that he sometimes displayed caution the

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problem of the nature of matter and its

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transformation into the myriad things of

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which the universe is made engaged the

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natural philosophers commencing with

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tales for his hypothesis to be credible

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it was essential that he could explain

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how all things could come into being

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from water and return ultimately to the

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originating material it is inherent in

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tales hypothesis that water had the

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potentiality to change to the myriad

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things of which the universe is made the

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botanical physiological material aaja

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chol and geological status in Timaeus 49

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BC Plato had Timaeus relate a cyclic

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process the passage commences with that

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which we now call water and describes a

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theory which was possibly that of tales

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tales would have recognized evaporation

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and have been familiar with traditional

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views such as the nutritive capacity of

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mists and ancient theories about

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spontaneous generation phenomena which

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he may have observed simple metallurgy

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had been practiced long before tales

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presented his hypothesis so tales knew

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that he could return metals into a

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liquid state water exhibits sensible

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changes

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obviously than any of the other

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so-called elements and can readily be

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observed in the three states of liquid

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vapor and ice the understanding that

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water could generate into earth is basic

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to Thales watery thesis and Meletis it

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could readily be observed that water had

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the capacity to thicken into earth

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Malita stood on the gulf of laid through

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which the meander River emptied its

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waters within living memory all the

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Malaysians had witnessed the island of

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Leyte increasing in size within the Gulf

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and the riverbanks encroaching into the

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river to such an extent that at prime

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across the gulf from Meletis the

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warehouses had to be rebuilt closer to

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the water's edge the ruins of the once

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prosperous city port of Meletis are now

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ten kilometres distant from the coast

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and the island of Leyte now forms part

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of the rich agricultural plain there

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would have been opportunity to observe

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other areas where earth generated from

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water for example the Delta's of the

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highlights the esta about which he

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co-wrote Theogony 341 now called the

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Danube the tigris-euphrates and almost

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certainly the nine thus coming into

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being of land would have provided

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substantiation of tales doctrine to

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tales water held the potentialities for

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the nourishment and generation of the

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entire cosmos ashes attributed to tales

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the concept that even the very fire of

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the Sun and the stars and indeed the

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cosmos itself is nourished by

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evaporation of the waters it is not

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known how Thales explained his watery

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thesis but Aristotle believed that the

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reasons he proposed we're probably the

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persuasive factors entails

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considerations tales gave no role to the

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Olympian gods belief in generation of

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Earth from water was not proven to be

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wrong until ad 1769 following

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experiments of Antonin level

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and spontaneous generation was not

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disproved until the 19th century as a

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result of the work of Louis Pasteur

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tales ideas about the earth tales

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proposed answers to a number of

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questions about the earth the question

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of its support its shape its size and

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the cause of earthquakes the dates of

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the Solstice the size of the Sun and

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Moon in decassle Oh Aristotle wrote the

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opinion and the earth west on water is

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the most ancient explanation which has

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come down to us and is attributed to

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Thales of Miletus he explained his

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theory by adding the analogy that the

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earth is addressed because it is of the

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nature of wood and similar substances

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which have the capacity to float on

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water although not on air in metaphysics

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Aristotle stated quite unequivocally

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tales declared that the earth rests on

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water this concept does appear to be at

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odds with natural expectations and

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Aristotle expressed his difficulty with

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tales theory tales anticipated problems

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with acceptance because he explained

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that it floated because of a particular

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quality a quality of buoyancy similar to

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that of wood at the busy city port of

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Meletis Thales had unlimited opportunity

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to observe the arrival and departure of

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ships with their heavier than water

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cargoes and recognized an analogy to

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floating logs tales may have an visage

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some quality common to ships and earth a

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quality of floatiness or buoyancy it

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seems that tales hypotheses were

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substantiated by sound observation and

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recent considerations indeed Seneca

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reported that tales had land supported

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by water and carried along like a boat

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Aristotle's lines in metaphysics

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indicate his understanding that tales

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believed that because water was the

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permanent entity the earth floats on

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water tales may have reasoned that as a

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modification of water earth must be the

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lighter substance and floating islands

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do exist Herodotus was impressed

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when he saw shimmers a floating island

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about 38 kilometers northeast of Noah

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cratis the Egyptian trading concession

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which stains probably visited Seneca

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described floating islands in Lydia

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there are many light pumas like stones

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of which islands are composed namely

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those which float in Libya Pliny

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describes several floating islands the

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most relevant being the reed islands in

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Libya and Pliny described a circular

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floating island its buoyancy and the way

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it moved tails could have visited the

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nearby reed islands he might have

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considered such readily visible examples

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to be models of his theory and he could

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well have claimed that the observation

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that certain islands had the capacity to

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float substantiated his hypothesis that

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water has the capacity to support earth

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Malaysian school the Malaysian school

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was a school of thought founded in the

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6th century BC the ideas associated with

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it are exemplified by three philosophers

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from the irony in town of Meletis on the

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Aegean coast of Anatolia tales in acts

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Amanda and nxe means tales was the

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founder of this new school of philosophy

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his two fellow Malaysians who also

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engaged in the new questioning approach

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to the understanding of the universe

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where Anaximander his disciple and nxe

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means who was the disciple of

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Anaximander an ex amantha was about 10

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years younger than tales but survived

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him by only a year dying in about 5:45

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BC nxe means was born in 585 BC and

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in about 528 BC their lives all

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overlapped through their association

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they comprised the Malaysian school they

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all worked on similar problems the

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nature of matter and the nature of

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change but they each proposed a

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different material as the primary

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principle which indicates that there was

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no necessity to follow the Masters

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teachings or attribute their discoveries

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to him each proposed a different support

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for the earth tales was held in high

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regard for his wisdom being acclaimed as

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the most eminent of the wise men of

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ancient Greece but he was not regarded

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as a God as Pythagoras was Anaximander

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and nxe means were free to persuade

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their own ideas and to express them in

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writing this surely suggests that they

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engaged in critical discussion of the

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theories of each other the Greeks are a

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sociable people and their willingness to

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converse broad rewards in knowledge

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gained as Plato remarked critical

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discussion implies more than familiarity

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with other views and more than mere

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disagreement with other theories it is

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the adoption or in this case the

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development of a new style of discussion

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it is a procedure which engages

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questioning debate explanation

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justification and criticism there was a

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unique relationship between the three

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Malaysians and it is highly probable

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that the critical method developed in

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the Malaysian school under the

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leadership of things tails on

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mathematics the practical skill of land

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measurement was invented in Egypt

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because of the necessity frequently to

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re measure plots of land after

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destructive inundations the phenomena is

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well described by Herodotus Egypt was

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believed to be the source of much wisdom

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and reports tell us that many Greeks

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including tails Pythagoras Solon

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Herodotus Plato Democritus

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and Euclid visited that ancient land to

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see the wonders for themselves the

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Egyptians had little to offer in the way

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of abstract thought the surveyors were

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able to measure and to calculate and

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they had outstanding practical skills in

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Egypt tales would have observed the land

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surveyors those who had a noted chord to

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make their measurements and they known

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as rope stretches Egyptian mathematics

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had already reached its Hyde's when the

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rint mathematical papyrus was written in

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about 1800 BC more than a thousand years

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later tales would have washed the

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surveyors as they went about their work

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in the same manner measuring the land

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with the aid of a noted rope which they

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stretched to measure lengths and to form

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angles the development of geometry is

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preserved in a work of Proclus a

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commentary on the first book of Euclid's

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elements proculus provide a remarkable

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amount of intriguing information

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geometry originated in Egypt where it

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developed out of necessity it was

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adopted by Thales who had visited Egypt

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and was introduced into Greece by him

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the commentary of Proclus indicates that

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he had access to the work of Euclid and

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also the history of geometry which was

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written by you Dumas of Rhodes a pupil

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of Aristotle but which is no longer

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extant his wording makes it clear that

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he was familiar with the views of those

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writers who had earlier written about

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the origin of geometry he affirmed the

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earlier views that the rudiments of

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geometry developed in Egypt because of

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the need to redefine the boundaries just

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as Herodotus stated five euclidean

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theorems have been explicitly attributed

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to tales and the testimony is that tales

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successfully applied to theorems to the

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solution of practical problems tales did

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not formulate proves in the formal sense

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what tales did was to put forward

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certain propositions which it seems

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he could have proven by induction he

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observed the similar results of his

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calculations he showed by repeated

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experiment that his propositions and

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theorems were correct and if none of his

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calculations resulted in contrary

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outcomes he probably felt justified in

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accepting his results as proof he lien

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proof was often really inductive

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demonstration the process tails used was

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the method of exhaustion this seems to

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be the evidence from proculus who

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declared that tails attacked some

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problems in a general way and others

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more empirically let us summarize what

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we have discussed so far tails is the

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first person about whom we know to

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propose explanations of natural

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phenomena which were materialistic

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rather than methodological or

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theological his theories were new bold

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exciting comprehensible and possible of

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explanation he did not speak in riddles

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as did Heraclitus and had no need to

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invent an undefined non substance as an

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ex Amanda did because he gave no role to

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mythical beings tales theories could be

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refuted arguments could be put forward

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in attempts to discredit them tales

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hypothesis were rational and scientific

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Aristotle acknowledged tales as the

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first philosopher and criticized his

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hypothesis in a scientific manner the

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most outstanding aspects of tales

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heritage are the search for knowledge

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for its own sake the development of the

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scientific method

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the adoption of practical methods and

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the development into general principles

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his curiosity and conjectural approach

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to the questions of natural phenomena in

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the sixth century BC tales asked the

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question what is the basic material of

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the cosmos the answer is yet to be

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discovered

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now we can try to answer the questions

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given here

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why tales labeled as the first scientist

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discuss the practical contribution

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tails's philosophy explain the

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mathematical features of Thales

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philosophy

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what is the cosmological doctrine of

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tales who wear the Malaysians and what

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they teach what are the contributions of

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tales to ancient Greek philosophy now

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you may go through the reference books

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given here for further reading

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pre-socratic philosophy essays in honor

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of Alexander moral lattice written by DW

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Graham and V Caston in 2002 published by

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Ashgate the Oxford Handbook of

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pre-socratic philosophy written by DW

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Graham and P Kurt in 2008 published by

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Oxford University Press Oxford cosmic

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problems written by DJ Furley in 1989

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published by Cambridge University Press

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Cambridge the Cambridge companion to

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early Greek philosophy written by a a

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along in 1999 published by Cambridge

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University Press Cambridge the

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pre-socratics written by a moral lattice

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in 1974 published by Anka Garden City a

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history of Greek philosophy written by W

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Casey go 3 1962 published by Cambridge

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University Press Cambridge hope that you

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have enjoyed the session we can meet

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again with another topic thank you

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