How Can I Know God's Will? #discernment

Ascension Presents
2 Sept 202407:37

Summary

TLDRIn this video, Father March from the Franciscan Friars of the Renewal discusses discerning God's will in life. He emphasizes the importance of responding to personal inspirations from prayer, obeying rightful authority, and acknowledging reality. He shares insights on how to navigate uncertainties when inspirations don't materialize, suggesting that God guides us through closed doors and that obedience to God's voice, authority, and reality can help confirm His will. The video offers a Catholic perspective on trusting in God's plan, even when it's not clear or leads to disappointments.

Takeaways

  • πŸ” Knowing God's will involves a combination of personal inspiration, communal discernment, and obedience to authority and reality.
  • πŸ™ Personal inspiration can be strong, but it is not the sole determinant of God's will; it must align with communal discernment and authority.
  • πŸ€” Discernment is a process that includes prayer, communal input, and the consideration of one's feelings and callings.
  • πŸ›οΈ Obedience to rightful authority is crucial; this includes the Church's confirmation for certain vocations like priesthood or religious life.
  • πŸšͺ Reality plays a significant role in discernment; if a calling does not materialize (e.g., not getting a job or not being accepted into a religious order), it is essential to trust that God is guiding the process.
  • πŸ”— There is a three-fold obedience involved in discerning God's will: obedience to personal inspiration, obedience to authority, and obedience to reality.
  • 🀝 The communal dimension is vital; one's calling often involves others, such as a spouse in marriage or a religious order confirming a vocation.
  • πŸ’” It's possible to feel a deep calling that does not come to fruition, leading to confusion and a need for trust in God's plan.
  • 🌟 Mother Teresa's example illustrates the importance of responding to inspiration and waiting for confirmation from rightful authority.
  • 🌈 The process of discernment can be frustrating and unclear, but it is a part of the journey of trust and surrender to God's will.

Q & A

  • What is the main topic of the discussion in the transcript?

    -The main topic of the discussion is discerning and understanding God's will in one's life, particularly in the context of Catholicism and the process of obedience to God's calling.

  • Why might someone feel called to a particular path, such as priesthood or marriage, and then find that it doesn't happen?

    -Someone might feel called to a path because of a profound inspiration or conviction, but it may not happen due to various reasons, including lack of acceptance by the Church or other parties involved, or simply because it was not part of God's plan for them.

  • What is the role of 'discernment' in the Catholic worldview as discussed in the transcript?

    -Discernment in the Catholic worldview is a process that involves not just personal feelings but also a communal dimension, obedience to God's personal calling in prayer, obedience to rightful authority, and obedience to reality.

  • How does the concept of 'obedience' relate to following God's will as described in the transcript?

    -Obedience to God's will involves responding to the inspiration felt in prayer, respecting rightful authority, and acknowledging the reality of the situation. It is a three-fold obedience that requires trust in God's guidance even when faced with closed doors or rejections.

  • What does the speaker mean by 'holding things with a slightly loose grip' when following a calling?

    -The speaker suggests that while one should pursue a calling with conviction, they should also be open to the possibility that the calling might not come to fruition, and thus not be too rigidly attached to the outcome.

  • How does the Church or a religious order confirm a calling to priesthood or religious life?

    -The Church or a religious order confirms a calling through a process that involves acceptance into seminary or religious life, and ultimately, through ordination or acceptance into the religious order.

  • What is the significance of 'closed doors' in the context of discerning God's will?

    -In the context of discerning God's will, 'closed doors' often represent God's guidance and direction. They are seen as a way in which God leads individuals, sometimes more clearly than through open opportunities.

  • Why is it important to have a 'trust and surrender' attitude when following God's will?

    -Having a trust and surrender attitude is important because it acknowledges that God is at work in the details of life, and it allows individuals to be open to God's plan, even when it differs from their own expectations.

  • What does the speaker suggest about the experience of facing a 'no' or rejection in the pursuit of a calling?

    -The speaker suggests that facing a 'no' or rejection can be painful, but it is also an opportunity to trust in God's plan and to recognize that there is still richness and fullness in God's will for one's life.

  • How does the speaker relate the concept of being a 'pilgrim' to the journey of discerning God's will?

    -The speaker relates being a 'pilgrim' to the journey of discerning God's will by emphasizing the gradual and often challenging nature of the process, where one must take small steps and trust in God's guidance along the way.

Outlines

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πŸ” Understanding God's Will in Your Life

In this segment, Father March Mary introduces the topic of discerning God's will in one’s life. He emphasizes that while it may be true that individuals can deeply feel a calling, there is no guarantee that these feelings will lead to actual outcomes. He discusses the confusion that arises when such strong convictions do not materialize and suggests that discernment, from a Catholic perspective, is not just personal or subjective. It requires a communal aspect, including obedience to God’s guidance in prayer, rightful authority, and the reality of the situation. Trusting God even when things don’t go as planned is essential in this process.

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πŸ›€οΈ Obedience in Following God’s Calling

This section elaborates on the threefold obedience in the Catholic worldview: obedience to personal prayer, rightful authority, and reality. Father Mary explains that when people feel God is calling them to a specific path, they should respond but also maintain flexibility. He provides examples, such as those called to religious life, where acceptance by the church or the religious order is necessary to confirm the calling. Similarly, those called to marriage or a specific job must receive affirmation through reciprocal commitment or job acceptance. Ultimately, God uses closed doors to guide individuals, and it's important to trust Him even when things don’t unfold as expected.

🎯 Aligning Convictions with Reality

Father Mary stresses the importance of aligning personal convictions with reality. While someone may feel called to become a Catholic musician or an NBA player, there are limitations based on one’s talents and circumstances. Obedience to reality means acknowledging what is possible in light of one’s current abilities and life situation. This approach requires trust in God’s guidance and the belief that God is working through all details, even closed doors or unfulfilled dreams. By surrendering control and remaining open to God’s plan, individuals can experience peace and clarity in their spiritual journey.

πŸ™ Trust and Surrender in God's Plan

In the final part, Father Mary speaks about the ultimate necessity of trusting God and surrendering to His plan, even when things are frustrating or unclear. He reflects on the journey of Mother Teresa, who felt called to start a religious order but waited for proper authority before acting. Similarly, Catholics are encouraged to trust God’s process and the outcomes of rightful authority and reality. While discerning God’s will may be frustrating or unclear, when the desired result comes to pass, such as marriage or career success, it confirms the authenticity of the calling. Until then, one must remain patient and trusting, knowing that God works through all details, including closed doors.

Mindmap

Keywords

πŸ’‘Discernment

Discernment refers to the process of seeking to understand and make decisions in accordance with what one believes to be God's will. In the video, discernment is described as not purely subjective but involving a communal dimension. It is a process of listening to God's inspiration in prayer and then seeking confirmation through rightful authority and the reality of the situation. For example, if someone feels called to the priesthood, they would need to follow the steps towards seminary, but they must also wait for the Church's confirmation.

πŸ’‘Inspiration

Inspiration in the context of the video is a feeling or sense of being called by God to a particular path or action. It is a subjective experience that individuals believe comes from divine guidance. The video emphasizes that while inspiration is a starting point, it must be confirmed through obedience to authority and reality. An example given is feeling called to marriage, which requires the mutual consent of both parties and the reality of the relationship.

πŸ’‘Obedience

Obedience in the video is portrayed as a multifaceted concept, involving obedience to personal inspiration, rightful authority, and reality. It is not blind obedience but rather a response to God's call that is also open to the guidance of the Church and the practical outcomes of one's actions. The video mentions a 'three-fold obedience' which includes responding to personal inspiration in prayer, heeding the decisions of rightful authority, and accepting the reality of situations.

πŸ’‘Vocation

A vocation in the video is understood as a calling from God to a particular state of life, such as priesthood, religious life, or marriage. It is a central theme as the video discusses how one can know if they are following God's will for their vocation. The video suggests that a vocation is confirmed when it aligns with personal inspiration, authority's approval, and the reality of the situation.

πŸ’‘Authentic Human Obedience

Authentic human obedience is a term used in the video to describe a balanced and realistic approach to obedience that takes into account personal inspiration, communal discernment, and the reality of the situation. It is contrasted with blind obedience and emphasizes the importance of trusting in God's guidance while also being open to the signs and confirmations from the Church and life's circumstances.

πŸ’‘Confirmation

Confirmation in the video is the process of seeking and receiving validation for one's inspiration from God. It is seen as a necessary step in discerning God's will, where personal inspiration is confirmed by the Church's authority or the reality of the situation. For instance, a person might feel called to be a priest, but this calling is confirmed when the Church ordains them.

πŸ’‘Reality

Reality, as discussed in the video, refers to the actual circumstances and outcomes of one's life. It is one of the dimensions of discernment, where personal inspiration must align with what is realistically possible and achievable. The video gives the example of feeling called to be a professional athlete or a musician, but the reality of one's abilities and opportunities may confirm or contradict this inspiration.

πŸ’‘Trust

Trust in the video is about having confidence in God's guidance and will for one's life. It involves trusting that God will lead one in the right direction, even when the path is not clear or when doors seem to be closed. The video suggests that trust is essential in discerning God's will and in accepting the outcomes of one's discernment process.

πŸ’‘Surrender

Surrender in the context of the video is the act of giving oneself over to God's plan and will, even when it does not align with one's personal desires or expectations. It is about letting go of one's own plans and being open to the direction that God is leading, as illustrated by the video's discussion on how God often speaks most clearly through closed doors.

πŸ’‘Pilgrims

Pilgrims in the video symbolize the journey of life as a spiritual quest where individuals are on a path of discovery and growth in their relationship with God. The term is used to encourage viewers to see themselves as travelers on a spiritual journey, learning and growing through experiences, including the process of discernment and obedience.

Highlights

Understanding God's will involves discernment and obedience.

Discernment is not purely subjective; it includes communal and authoritative dimensions.

Obedience to God's personal calling in prayer is essential.

Rightful authority plays a role in confirming one's calling.

Obedience to reality is necessary, even when it involves closed doors.

God's will is confirmed when one's actions align with reality and authority.

Trust in God's guidance is crucial, even when outcomes are not as expected.

The experience of 'no' or closed doors can still lead to God's intended direction.

Mother Teresa's example of waiting for rightful authority's confirmation.

The importance of having a loose grip on one's plans while trusting in God's will.

The journey of discernment is often marked by frustration but also truth.

Even in the face of 'no,' there is still richness and fullness in God's plan.

The process of discernment involves a balance of personal conviction and external confirmation.

The role of communal discernment in the Catholic worldview.

The concept of three-fold obedience: to prayer, authority, and reality.

The practical steps one might take in response to a felt calling.

The necessity of a disposition of trust and surrender to God's unfolding plan.

The reassurance that God is at work in the details, even when they are not clear.

Transcripts

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we're going to talk about really knowing

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God's will in your life and I think the

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answer is going to be both

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true but maybe really

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annoying father March Mary with the

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Franciscan friers of the renewal and

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this is Ascension present how do you

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know at the end of the day how do you

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have fullprof total

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confirmation that the inspiration you're

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feeling is God's will the answer is

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because it actually happens you might

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feel so profoundly like called

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to become a priest or to become a

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religious or you might be called to a

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certain type of business or company or

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nonprofit or you might feel so called to

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maybe move somewhere or to marry a

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particular person or to be married and I

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and I come across people who feel this

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so deeply this is the number one thing

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that they are sure of in their life and

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then it doesn't

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happen and then the experience is one of

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like really profound confusion I I this

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was what God was saying like did it and

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it didn't happen like where how did was

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he fooling me was he tricking me did I

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not hear him can I not hear God at all

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and it can just really be disorienting

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in a Catholic worldview and perspective

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um discernment is never purely

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subjective especially the big type of

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stuff like there's there's love discern

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which is not just subjective it's not

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just what I feel in I am convinced of

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there's a communal Dimension to that and

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this is again this is a Catholic

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worldview with this inspiration we're

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going to be in called to a three-fold

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obedience okay there's an obedience to

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what God is personally asking us in

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prayer like if we feel God is calling us

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to something there's an obedience to

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that there's an obedience to rightful

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Authority and then

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thirdly God's going to speak to us and

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therefore there's going to be obedience

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simply to reality so the first one is

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this like yeah if you feel God calling

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you to something we're called to respond

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to it if you feel like there's an

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inspiration in prayer to acts of Charity

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to a greater conversion to leaving

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things behind to reaching out to

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somebody to to a deeper prayer life to

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particular maybe sharing a word of

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encouragement to somebody you you you

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meet if you're feeling called to

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marriage if you're feeling called to a

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particular Mission or min

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if you're feeling called to a particular

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vocation like we want to respond to it

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we can through sin or through

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Disobedience just like say no to God

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God's going to adjust he's going to

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respond to it but but there is a real

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Dimension to that but if God's calling

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us to it like yeah we want to respond

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but we also respond and we hold these

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things with a slightly loose grip

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there's a sense like I I kind of would

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have this like I feel strongly like that

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God is calling me to this and so I'm

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going to make the right action steps but

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at times these invitation or these

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action steps are going to involve other

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parties you might feel called to

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Seminary and by that you feel a certain

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desire to it or to religious life and so

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you're going to make the

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steps that call we hold lightly like I'm

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following this I think this is it like

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and we can't really go much deeper than

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that until like the church confirms it

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there's a part for those who are going

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to be ordained where like church calls

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in they receive the call and like we you

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are chosen you will be ordained

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similarly the call to like a religious

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Institute is confirmed when that

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religious order says yes so there is

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this this rightful Authority part to it

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also you might be called feel called to

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marry a particular man or

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woman they have to say yes you know you

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know you know that this is God's call in

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your life when you exchange marriage

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vows and you get married you might feel

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called to a particular job or something

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like that but again

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like you have to get hired

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and so the thing is like if we don't get

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accepted the Seminary or we don't get

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ordained or we don't marry the person we

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want to or we don't get get the job we

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want like we actually have to trust that

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God is working in those details we have

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confidence that we can hear God's voice

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but there is a part as well where it's

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like I'm pretty confident this is what

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God is saying so we follow as best we

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can but then we also have to trust that

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God's going to Shepherd us through the

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details and often he Shepherds us like

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most directly through closed doors

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that's my experience at least is often

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like it's through the closed doors that

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God is most concretely and clearly

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taking us to a particular direction and

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so we have to trust God with those

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details and this this last level of

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obedience is just to reality I could

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potentially feel a deep conviction that

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I'm called to be you know the next

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brother Isaiah the next Matt marah the

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next big Catholic

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musician I can't sing I might feel

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called to be in the NBA but like that's

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just not going to happen at this point

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in my life there's a part there isn't

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this obedience to reality in all of this

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like obedience is ultimately possible

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when we have the confidence that God

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speaks that God is at work and also God

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is trustworthy that God is trustworthy

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in these details and I I echoed it and

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you can go back to it again uh with that

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that uh the quote from Mother Teresa

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like Mother Teresa felt so deeply called

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to start religious order and so she

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responded she was obedient to if you

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will the um the inspiration then as well

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like she was obedient and she waited for

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rightful authority to say yes and then

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she went forward so friends again this

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might feel um a little bit frustrating

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or annoying but also maybe sometimes the

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fullness of the truth is frustrating and

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annoying and I get because it's not

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maybe as clear cut cut or black and

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white as you might want it to be but

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this is really this is really ultimately

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how we know what God wants in our life

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um because when we follow through it it

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actually happens and so as God speaks to

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us and he inspires us we want to be

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obedient we want to say yes but then

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also there's the The Obedience this

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Catholic authentic human obedience to

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rightful Authority and to reality and so

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when rightful Authority and reality both

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also say yes and the thing actually

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happens you get you get the you enter

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into the vocation you have the the the

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wedding you get the job Etc um then we

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can have confidence then we know that

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this was ultimately God's will we TR

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confidence in him but with a loose grip

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and sort of a a disposition of trust and

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surrender to the Lord as the details

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unfold hopefully this is helpful and can

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help make sense of some things that

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you're experien or have experienced and

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um yeah it's not to be dismissive of the

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pain of of the no but also to have this

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authentic Catholic trust and confidence

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that God is at work and the details and

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that in the closed door in the no

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there's still fullness and richness for

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what God wants to do in your life it's

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just not maybe where you thought all

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right thanks so much for watching and uh

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we'll see you again next week remember

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we are pilgrims on the Serv so p po po

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little by little B say you are we're

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going to make it

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bye I want that phone to not be ringing

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but it is ringing so it's God's will for

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me to be in here with it ringing

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sh go

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away good

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