How to Win a Debate Without Even Trying | Socratic Questioning
Summary
TLDRThis script explores Socrates' renowned questioning technique, aiming to enhance critical thinking skills. It emphasizes the importance of pre-arguing to clarify definitions and assumptions, and suggests asking under what circumstances one might change their mind. The script delves into Socratic questions that seek clarification and uncover flaws in arguments, distinguishing between the causes and reasons behind beliefs. It encourages considering alternative perspectives and examining the implications of beliefs. Finally, it advises reflecting on any overlooked questions and maintaining epistemic humility to foster more profound understanding and effective debate.
Takeaways
- π― The script emphasizes the importance of critical thinking, inspired by Socrates' method of questioning to challenge beliefs and assumptions.
- π€ Pre-arguing is crucial for clarifying definitions and assumptions to ensure a productive discussion.
- π£οΈ Socrates often began discussions by asking for definitions of key terms to align the conversation and avoid misunderstandings.
- π€ Asking 'under what circumstances would you be wrong?' helps determine if someone is open to a genuine discussion or just defending their stance.
- π§ The 'ignoramus and clarification' technique involves asking for clarification to help uncover potential flaws in an argument without being confrontational.
- π Distinguishing between the causes and reasons for beliefs is important; causes may be emotional, while reasons are more logical and open to challenge.
- π Considering alternative perspectives and experiences can open minds to new possibilities and understanding.
- π The 'reductio ad absurdum' argument is a powerful tool for examining the implications of a belief to reveal contradictions or absurd outcomes.
- π Reflecting on the questioning process itself by asking if there are any unaddressed questions or areas that need further clarification.
- π‘ The script concludes that critical thinking is a skill developed over time with practice, emphasizing the need for epistemic humility and continuous learning.
Q & A
What is the main focus of the video script about?
-The main focus of the video script is on Socrates' famous questioning technique and how it can be used to enhance critical thinking, clarify definitions and assumptions, and engage in productive discussions.
Why did Socrates believe critical thinking was important in ancient Athens?
-Socrates believed critical thinking was important because he observed that many people held beliefs they could not justify, and he aimed to teach Athens the skill of critical thinking to challenge these unexamined beliefs.
What is the significance of pre-arguing in the context of the script?
-Pre-arguing is significant as it involves checking underlying definitions and assumptions before engaging in a debate. It helps to ensure that both parties are discussing the same concepts and can lead to more productive and relevant discussions.
How does the script suggest one should approach an argument about the existence of God with a deist?
-The script suggests that one should first clarify the definitions of key terms like 'God' to ensure both parties are discussing the same concept. It highlights the importance of understanding whether the deist believes God is actively involved in the universe or not, as this affects the relevance of arguments used.
What is the purpose of asking 'Under what circumstances would you be wrong?' at the beginning of a discussion?
-Asking 'Under what circumstances would you be wrong?' helps to establish whether someone is open to a good faith discussion or just defending their position. It also provides insight into the factors that motivate someone's belief.
Why does the script suggest asking 'What do you mean by that?' during an argument?
-Asking 'What do you mean by that?' is suggested to clarify the meaning of terms and expose potential flaws in an argument without making the other person defensive. It allows the person to self-identify inconsistencies or misunderstandings in their position.
What is the difference between asking about the 'cause' and the 'reason' for someone's belief according to the script?
-The script differentiates between 'cause' and 'reason' by suggesting that 'cause' refers to the emotional or pragmatic factors that lead to a belief, while 'reason' refers to the logical arguments that support it. Understanding this difference can help in determining which aspects of a belief can be challenged through logic.
How can considering alternative perspectives enhance critical thinking, as discussed in the script?
-Considering alternative perspectives can enhance critical thinking by opening the mind to possibilities that one might not have considered. It encourages empathy and understanding of different viewpoints, which can lead to a more nuanced and comprehensive evaluation of an argument.
What is the 'reductio ad absurdum' argument mentioned in the script, and how is it used?
-The 'reductio ad absurdum' argument is a philosophical technique where the implications of a position are examined to show that it leads to a contradiction or absurd consequences. It is used to challenge the validity of a belief by demonstrating that accepting it leads to an untenable outcome.
Why is it important to ask about the implications and consequences of a belief, as per the script?
-Asking about the implications and consequences of a belief is important because it allows for a deeper understanding of the belief's logical consistency and practical ramifications. It helps to identify potential flaws and ensures that the belief is not only internally coherent but also aligns with broader logical and moral considerations.
How does the script suggest one should reflect on their own questioning process?
-The script suggests reflecting on one's own questioning process by considering whether all aspects of an argument have been sufficiently examined, whether any questions have been overlooked, and if there is a need for further clarification. This reflection involves epistemic humility and an ongoing commitment to critical self-examination.
Outlines
π The Power of Critical Thinking
This paragraph introduces the concept of critical thinking and its importance in personal and societal discourse. It highlights Socrates' role as a pioneer in questioning established beliefs and promoting critical examination of one's own and others' viewpoints. The paragraph emphasizes the value of challenging narratives and engaging in debates with a strong foundation in logic and facts. It also introduces the idea of pre-arguing, which involves mentally preparing for a discussion, clarifying key terms and assumptions, and determining the worthiness of the argument. The goal is to ensure that debates are productive and aimed at uncovering the truth rather than merely winning an argument.
π€ The Art of Clarification in Debates
This paragraph delves into the Socratic method of questioning, specifically focusing on the importance of clarification. It suggests that acknowledging a lack of understanding and asking for clarification can be a powerful tool in debates. This approach not only shows genuine interest in the opponent's perspective but also helps in identifying potential flaws in their argument. The paragraph provides examples from Plato's dialogues, such as Socrates' discussion with Thrasymachus in 'The Republic,' to illustrate how asking for clarification can lead to the exposure of contradictions in one's beliefs. It also encourages self-reflection and the examination of one's own beliefs to ensure coherence and avoid blindly holding onto opinions.
π§ Exploring Reasons and Causes Behind Beliefs
This paragraph explores the distinction between the reasons and causes behind our beliefs. It explains that reasons are logical arguments that support a belief, while causes are often emotional or pragmatic factors that influence our views. The paragraph emphasizes the importance of understanding both the reasons and causes behind one's own and others' beliefs to have a more nuanced and honest discussion. It also touches on the idea that sometimes beliefs are not purely logical and that recognizing the extra-rational factors can help in self-awareness and more empathetic debates. The paragraph encourages asking questions that separate the logical from the emotional, allowing for a deeper understanding of the motivations behind different viewpoints.
π Considering Alternatives and Consequences
This paragraph discusses the importance of considering alternative perspectives and the potential consequences of one's beliefs. It suggests that imagining different life experiences can lead to a broader understanding of various viewpoints. The paragraph also introduces the method of reductio ad absurdum, where the implications of a belief are examined to reveal contradictions or absurd outcomes. It encourages questioning the implications and consequences of beliefs, both our own and those of others, to ensure that our views are well-founded and not leading to untenable positions. The paragraph concludes by emphasizing the value of epistemic humility and the continuous practice of critical thinking to improve one's reasoning skills.
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Keywords
π‘Socrates
π‘Critical Thinking
π‘Questioning Technique
π‘Definitions and Assumptions
π‘Deist
π‘Theist
π‘Causality
π‘Reasons for Believing
π‘Implications and Consequences
π‘Epistemic Humility
π‘Fallacies
Highlights
The unexamined life is not worth living, a Socratic principle emphasizing the importance of critical thinking.
Socrates' method of questioning aimed to challenge unjustified beliefs and promote critical thinking in ancient Athens.
Pre-arguing involves checking underlying definitions and assumptions to set a foundation for productive discussions.
Clarifying key terms and assumptions before a debate prevents arguments based on different definitions.
Asking under what circumstances one would be wrong can reveal the genuineness of a discussion partner's intent.
Socrates often began discussions by asking for definitions of key terms to align understanding.
The Ignoramus and Clarification technique involves admitting lack of understanding to encourage clarification.
Asking for clarification can help uncover flaws in an argument without putting the opponent on the defensive.
Examining the causes and reasons behind beliefs can separate emotional from logical justifications.
Understanding the reasons for a belief can help identify potential logical flaws and areas for challenge.
Considering alternative perspectives can open minds to possibilities not initially considered.
Implications and consequences of a belief are examined to test the validity of a position.
Reductio ad absurdum is a method of showing contradictions or absurd outcomes of a position.
Modus tollens is a logical argument form used to challenge beliefs by their implications.
Questioning Questions is a final step to ensure all aspects of a discussion have been adequately explored.
Epistemic humility is essential in recognizing the potential for oversight in our reasoning.
Practice is key to refining critical thinking skills over time.
Transcripts
the unexamined life is not worth living
here we will find out why have you ever
just known that someone was wrong about
something but were unable to put your
finger on how perhaps you wanted to
challenge the dominance narrative in a
friend group or to debate with
unparalleled skill or just dominate
imaginary people with facts and logic
while you have a shower if so you would
not be alone in this wish the father of
westom philosophy Socrates wanted to do
the same thing though maybe not the bit
about the shower Socrates would look
across ancient Athens and everywhere he
saw people holding beliefs they could
not possibly justify he could not let
things go on like this Athens had to be
taught critical thinking and Socrates
was going to do it even if it killed him
here we are going to look at socrates's
Famous questioning technique with a few
bonus additions from me and see why it
worked so well by the end of this video
perhaps you too will be able to
transform history forever get ready to
learn how Socrates would disarm an
argument without anyone even noticing
how to ensure that your worldview is not
full of holes and how we can apply
critical thinking in our everyday lives
let's get started one pre- arguing I
find that critical discussions can be a
little bit like heavy exercise it is
helpful to mentally stretch beforehand
to put yourself in the right mindset and
to see if this argument is worth your
time or your opponents and this is where
pre- arguing comes in it is something
you see socres do quite a lot in Plato's
dialogues and it often comes in the form
of checking underlying definitions and
assumptions
say you and I are having a debate about
God's existence however you happen to be
a deist that is someone who does not
believe that God controls the universe
but just kicked it off I may not know
this and assume that you are a theist
someone who believes that God is still
actively involved in the universe as a
result if I were to challenge your
worldview on the basis of some classic
theological questions like the problem
of evil then that would not be strictly
relevant here we have ended up working
with two different definitions of God
you have a definition of God where he is
uninvolved with the universe as it
currently exists whereas I have a
definition where he is the problem here
is that while we disagree over
definitions no productive discussion can
take place if I say God doesn't exist
and you say God does exist then we don't
actually contradict one another this
happens in political arguments all the
time people have vastly different
definitions of words like socialist or
capitalist or left-wing or right-wing
and then get into discussions that from
the very outset even if both parties are
arguing in good faith cannot be
productive this is a practical example
of why it is so important to clarify key
terms and assumptions before you enter a
debate that is if you want it to be a
productive discussion aimed at truth to
return to our argument about the
definition of God if I had stopped to
ask what your definition of God is I
might discover that we disagree a lot
less than I initially thought it would
also tell me not to invoke arguments
that are leveled specifically at a
theist position at the very least this
can save you and your interlocutors some
time but it its most extreme it can
prevent shouting matches over a
disagreement based on an illusion one of
the first question question Socrates
tends to ask people in Plato's dialogues
is for their definitions of some key
terms be it justice or beauty or love
Socrates wants to know how they are
using the word if they have a
disagreement Socrates often changes the
discussion to be about which definition
they should use so that they can agree
on this before they move forward without
doing this all of the dialogues would
just be a waste of everyone's precious
time and I want to make a short addition
to socrates's questions here I think a
good question to ask both ourselves and
our interlocutors at the beginning of a
discussion is under what circumstances
would you or I be wrong this works
wonderfully for a couple of reasons the
first is that it establishes whether
someone is interested in having a real
good faith discussion or whether they
are simply interested in defending their
position to the death if someone really
cannot imagine that they would change
their mind under any circumstances then
chances are the debate just is not worth
having and secondly it gives a real
insight into the factors that motivate
someone's belief if I was arguing in
favor of legalizing euthanasia I still
might concede that but I would change my
mind if most people were pressured into
the decision that would give you an
insight into the underlying ideas that
maintain my position for instance I'm
likely to think that laws should be
justified on their consequences rather
than believing they should mimic a
pre-ordained set of moral rules and I
know it can get tedious but it is
genuinely worth going through this pre-
argumentation stage before a debate
enters full swing the two key questions
to ask here are what definitions are we
using for the key terms in our
discussion and under what circumstances
would we change our our minds but
obviously we can't stop there now we
have to actually have the argument and
next we will look at my favorite type of
Socratic question one that can easily
find potential flaws in a position
without making someone Retreat into a
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description two the ignoramus and
clarification one of the most disarming
things you can say in an argument is I'm
not sure I completely understand your
position and the reason for this is too
fault first it concedes an imaginary
point to your opponent and lets them
know you are not just in this to batter
or humiliate them you are genuinely
interested in what they think and
secondly it opens up the possibility of
asking clarificatory questions and this
is often key to a productive discussion
anecdotally people are much more likely
to change or shift their position when
they spot a flaw in their argument
themselves rather than having them
pointed out by some bastard like me so
often the best way to highlight the
flaws in someone's position is to ask
them to clarify what they mean let the
holes in their argument be exposed that
way in Plato's Republic the character of
Socrates debates with thimas who argues
that Justice is whatever the stronger
person desires so Socrates asks him
exactly what he means by this and thimas
replies by saying that Justice is
whatever advantages the stronger person
but then he has immediately revealed his
mistake because what the stronger person
desires and what the stronger person
benefits from are two separate things
someone very powerful might be mistaken
about what benefits them and in such a
situation frim marus is caught in a
contradiction and it is only through
asking him exactly what he means that
Socrates was able to uncover this
contradiction in his world view to give
a more upto-date example imagine that
you and I are having a discussion and I
say we should not listen to the opinions
of immoral people you might challenge
this position by asking me what do you
mean by immoral that makes someone's
opinions no longer worth listening to I
might reply that immoral people are more
likely to make mistakes due to their
poor character but you can then ask me
what do you mean by mistakes I might
reply by saying that they will mistake
good actions for bad ones and bad for
good but at this point you can point out
that my argument only actually covers
moral debates and it leaves it open that
immoral people might be perfectly worth
listening to on other topics without
having to outright challenge my position
you've transformed it from a grand claim
into a much more circumspect one which
you could now attack in other ways
should you choose to do so the key
question here is what do you mean by
that it sounds so simple but it is
devastatingly effective and it is
important to approach this with genuine
curiosity it might expose your
interlocutor as having an outright
contradiction in their views but it
could just as easily reveal its
indisputable coherence either way you
will understand your opponent's position
much better and this is essential for a
productive discussion and it is worth
asking this question to ourselves as
well it can help us understand our own
positions when was the last time you sat
back and examined your worldview to see
where there are unclarified terms or
where you couldn't explain it simply
this can be an excellent exercise to
check that we truly know what we think
and that we are not accidentally parting
an opinion we have picked up from
somewhere else but there is a key type
of question we have yet to examine and
without it any accounts of Socratic
questioning would be woefully incomplete
three causes and reasons this is the
quintessential philosophical question
why do you think that but it's worth
noting that this in turn can split into
two further questions each with their
own purposes the first is what has
caused you to think that and the second
is what are your reasons for thinking
that I know they look SAR but there is a
crucial difference say I am again
arguing in favor of Ethan's legality and
you want to know the cause of my belief
I might answer by saying that I've heard
the testimony of many suffering people
who say in Earnest that they would like
to end their own lives and the emotions
I felt in response have to a certain
extent motivated my position this is a
causal Story one thing happened and my
belief was affected by it but
importantly the causal process did not
run through my reason or my deliberation
and this might be different to my
reasons for supporting the legalization
of euthanasia it could be that the
primary reason for my position is that I
think everyone has the right to do what
they wish with their own body provided
it is not directly harming other people
and that I think euthanasia falls into
this category of action this is not just
a cause it is a reasoned argument it's
worth noting that in some accounts all
reasons are also causes whereas in
others they are totally separate
categories but I don't want to get into
this debate here for our purposes the
distinction is important because whereas
a reason for believing can be refuted by
Logic a cause of a belief might be
emotional or pragmatic to quote a common
phrase online you can't logic someone
out of a position that they haven't
logic themselves into so these two
questions are good at separating the
types of things that are worth
challenging with reason and those logic
probably won't make much Headway on if
someone believes something because it
was their father's dying words you're
very unlikely to convince them otherwise
then honing in on the reasons someone
believes something can give us an idea
of where the flaws in their argument
might lie to return to the example of
euthanasia you might challenge the idea
that euthanasia does not directly harm
others or that we have unrestricted
rights to our own body if you are
religious you might say that our bodies
are partly the domain of God or you
might say we owe it to our community to
continue living the point is now you
have a good idea of why I believe what I
believe and can challenge my reasoning I
know that this to a certain extent
sounds really obvious but you don't have
to go far to see people completely
misunderstanding the reasons for someone
else's belief or even worse just
assuming their reasons possibly
strawmanning them in the process think
of the times you hear people say well of
course you believe that you just want to
see people suffer or all Christians are
the same you're just scared of death
instead of asking for the reasons or
causes behind someone's belief we just
make up our own and argue with them
instead it is quite tempting after all
it's much easier and these questions
also encourage us to be more honest
about why we hold our own views we can
learn to identify when we have a good
set of reasons for a belief and when
extra rational factors have crept in
there is nothing necessarily wrong with
holding a belief that is not Hune
straight from the granite rock of logic
but it's worth recognizing this just so
we're aware of what Mater material is
supporting our viewpoints but this line
of inquiry links very well with another
type of Socratic questioning one that
places the emphasis on empathizing with
the views of other people in order to
open our minds to all the possibilities
we have not yet considered four the
Alternatives there is a really famous
clip in the UK of an Italian TV chef
shouting if my grandmother had Wheels
she would have been a bik he meant it to
mock someone who had just compared what
he was cooking to a British style
carbonara but I actually think this is
kind of a fun thought experiment if you
had Wheels in place of all of your limbs
how would that affect the way you see
the world you would probably think more
in continuous distances than in
individual steps you would definitely
have a greater awareness of which
buildings in your area had ramp access
the whole orientation of your life would
be subtly changed in innumerable ways
and I think this is a great thing to ask
ourselves in discussions if I had
different experiences how would I see
this question differently if I had grown
up in a collapsing Nation I might
understandably value security a little
bit more than Freedom a lot of people
say that when they have children or go
through near-death experience their
priorities shift in a way that they
could not possibly have predicted
considering this can have a brilliant
mind openening effect on our worldview
because Downstream of these perspective
changes are all the alternative
propositions that we could inadvertently
be ignoring for instance by considering
how we might view the world differently
if we were raised in a highly
competitive and borderline toxic
environment we might understand why some
people are not so naively trusting as
ourselves on this channel I cover a lot
of philosophers with pretty cynical
views and this is partly because by
Nature I am such a crude Optimist and so
looking at these thinkers helps to
counterbalance my own biases this is
also another great way of encouraging
people to engage in critical thinking
without directly confronting them
imagine you are having a discussion with
someone who is hellbent on defending the
death penalty and you don't necessarily
want to disagree with them head on but
you want to encourage them to the idea
there might be other perspectives like
we said before a good start is to ask
them under what circumstances they would
change their mind these might be both
emotional and non-rational circumstances
like imagining someone that they knew
had been falsely sentenced to have but
also considering rational Alternatives
like what the level of false convictions
would have to be in order for them to
shift their position this obviously
links a lot with what I said in the
first section about asking under which
conditions you would abandon your
position but it is broadened in scope to
asking what perspectives or Alternatives
you are just not yet considering you
might still end up believing the same
things and so might your discussion
partner but you will have a fuller
consideration of the alternatives on
offer and if one seems more plausible
you will then have the opportunity to
switch your position a lot of the time
we don't know what we don't know and
this type of question is a good way of
simulating what the discussion would
look like through different eyes we also
might connect this with our previous
question about the reasons and causes
people hold certain beliefs even if your
opponent is obviously mistaken what
about their lives and experiences have
brought them to this point you can even
ask them this directly provided you do
so tactfully this does not mean that you
will end up agreeing with your opponent
but it helps prevent the argument from
descending into chaos and it encourages
both speakers to understand where the
other is coming from but but no
questioning model is complete without
our next point where we will have to
crack open our logic textbooks and thumb
its well-worn Pages five implications
and consequences one of the most famous
types of philosophical argument is the
reductio ad absurdum this is essentially
where you examine the implications of
your opponent's position to show either
that it is outright contradictory or
that it just has absurd consequences it
involves drawing out what would follow
from a given position actually being
true you see examples of this a lot in
debate around moral relativism a very
crude form of this position states that
an action is good if I believe it is
good is true in this scenario if I say
that murder is wrong and someone else
says that murder is Right both our
positions would be rendered true hence
there is a contradiction of course this
is a straw man version of moral
relativism they tend to respond by
saying that we've misunderstood their
position they might instead say that the
meaning of Truth in the moral sphere is
just relative to individual people so I
have my moral truths and you have yours
but they don't contradict this is
normally countered with another reductio
argument stating that if that were the
case we could never resolve moral
disagreements since every one of our
moral beliefs would be true by
definition the moral relativist might
then alter their position and so on and
so forth I don't want to get sucked into
a debate about moral relativism I just
want to look at the structures of the
arguments involved the responses to the
moral relativist here are all of the
form well if you take that position then
this also must follow but that's absurd
so the original position must be false
to use a technical term they are modus
Tolen arguments a modus OPP's argument
is of the form if a then B A therefore B
whereas a modus tolan's argument is of
the form if a then B not B therefore not
a so in the above example the argument
was as follows if moral relativism were
true then we would not be able to solve
moral disputes we can solve moral
disputes therefore moral relativism
cannot be true and this is not just
helpful for examining other people's
positions it is fantastic for putting
our own views to the test some of the
greatest critical thinkers in history
have used this approach for instance
much of St Thomas aquinus great work
Summa theologica is about working out
the consequences of different
theological and philosophical views to
see if they are acceptable likewise a
huge proportion of Plato's dialogues
consist of Socrates testing out the
consequences of his opponent's position
and working out where they might end up
contradicting themselves or asserting
something that is philosophically
tenuous he doesn't always do this
successfully there's an Infamous passage
in the Mino that comes to mind but it is
still a Cornerstone of his approach the
key questions to ask here are if I
believe this what else would follow or
conversely if I did not believe this
what would follow from that then after
we've seen the implications of a
position we can ask ourselves if it is
worth accepting the worldview given the
consequences this is a type of question
it's great to explore after having gone
through all the stages we've already
covered this is because it involves
having a clear conception of the reasons
behind someone's belief and a full
clarification of the contents of that
belief but there is one final thing
worth asking in any discussion or
self-interrogation and it's intended to
ensure that we have not missed a spot in
our logical cleaning six questioning
questions this is where we come full
circle and ask ourselves if we have
questions to our satisfaction do we
truly understand our opponent's position
or do we still need some clarity have we
really got to grips with why we believe
something or have we got our reasons and
our causes confused are there any
questions we want to ask that don't fall
into any of these camps and if so what
are they this is slightly different to
previous sections as it does not provide
a series of questions that we can list
off or a neat type of inquiry we can
make it instead outlines a sort of
General attitude to discussion or debate
it is essentially a moment where we sit
back and consult our intuitions if we
have been involved in a lot of
discussions or self- interrogations in
the past we might ask what we questioned
then that we have not questioned now or
double check that we have not made
mistakes that were previously
commonplace above all it involves a
certain level of epistemic humility of
recognizing that despite our best
efforts we might have missed something
there is no step-by-step guide I can
give you to asking this question and
arguably there shouldn't be learning how
to think critically is like any skill it
is a slow and steady process refined
over many years of practice I have
written and learned an awful lot about
formal logic and I've had a metric ton
of arguments but there is still so much
I have yet to learn the primary way to
get better from here is just practice if
we use these questions in our everyday
lives interrogating the propositions we
find out in the world and our prior
beliefs then we will increase our skills
little by little until we instinctively
know which questions to ask where the
weak points in an argument are likely to
be and what are the biases and flaws in
our own reasoning but of course none of
this will matter if our logic is full of
fallacies so check out this video to
learn the three types of fallacy and how
to avoid them and stick around for more
on thinking to improve your life
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