Anu Bradford - Digital empires: The global battle to regulate technology

Hertie School Centre for Digital Governance
17 Nov 202323:11

Summary

TLDRAnu Bradford discusses the concept of 'digital empires' in global tech regulation, highlighting three models: the American market-driven, Chinese state-driven, and European rights-driven approaches. She predicts the decline of the US model due to a shift towards privacy and competition regulations, while the EU model gains traction. However, concerns about European innovation, enforcement, and the appeal of the Chinese model in authoritarian states pose challenges. The future of liberal democracy in the digital age is at stake, with the need for effective governance by democratic entities, not just tech companies or authoritarian regimes.

Takeaways

  • πŸ“š Anu Bradford's work revolves around the concept of 'digital empires', focusing on the regulatory models of the US, China, and the EU in the digital realm.
  • 🌎 The US model is market-driven, prioritizing free speech and innovation with minimal government intervention, often leaving tech governance to private companies.
  • πŸ— China's approach is state-driven, aiming to become a technological superpower while using technology for surveillance and censorship to maintain political stability.
  • 🌍 The EU model is rights-driven, emphasizing the protection of individual rights, democratic structures, and a fair distribution of digital transformation benefits.
  • πŸ”„ Each 'empire' is exporting its model differently: the US exports the power of its tech companies, China exports infrastructure, and the EU exports regulatory superpower.
  • πŸ›‘ The 'Brussels effect' is noted, where the EU's regulations influence global tech companies, leading them to adopt these standards worldwide.
  • πŸ’‘ Bradford argues that the EU is not just reacting to US and China but is a significant player in shaping global digital governance with its distinct approach.
  • πŸ”„ The script discusses 'horizontal battles' between these empires and 'vertical battles' within each empire against tech companies over regulation.
  • πŸ“‰ There's a predicted decline in the American digital empire's influence as the world moves away from the market-driven model towards more regulated environments.
  • πŸ† The EU's regulatory model is gaining traction globally, especially in democratic countries, but faces challenges in authoritarian regions and within its own enforcement capabilities.
  • βš–οΈ The final battle is for the soul of liberal democracy, where the effectiveness of democratic governance of technology is critical to prevent authoritarian or corporate control of the digital economy.

Q & A

  • What is the main theme of Anu Bradford's book 'The Brussels Effect'?

    -The main theme of Anu Bradford's book 'The Brussels Effect' is how the European Union's regulations are influencing the global digital economy and the world, highlighting the EU's role as a regulatory superpower.

  • What are the three primary models of digital regulation according to Anu Bradford?

    -The three primary models of digital regulation according to Anu Bradford are the American market-driven model, the Chinese state-driven model, and the European rights-driven model.

  • How does the American market-driven model approach digital regulation?

    -The American market-driven model prioritizes free speech, free internet, and incentives to innovate, with the government playing a minimal role and tech companies largely self-regulating.

  • What is the focus of the Chinese state-driven model in terms of technology?

    -The Chinese state-driven model focuses on making China a technological superpower, leveraging state resources for this goal, and using technology as a tool for surveillance, propaganda, and censorship to maintain political power and social stability.

  • What does the European rights-driven model emphasize in digital regulation?

    -The European rights-driven model emphasizes human-centric digital transformation, maximizing individual fundamental rights, preserving democratic structures, and ensuring a fair distribution of gains from digital transformation.

  • Why are the three leading technology regulatory powers referred to as 'digital empires' in Anu Bradford's discourse?

    -Anu Bradford refers to the three leading technology regulatory powers as 'digital empires' to metaphorically illustrate their global influence and proactive exportation of their regulatory models beyond their jurisdictions.

  • How does the concept of the 'Brussels Effect' relate to digital regulation?

    -The 'Brussels Effect' in digital regulation refers to the tendency of European regulations to shape global standards and practices, as tech companies often adopt these regulations globally to streamline their operations.

  • What are the horizontal and vertical battles mentioned in the script?

    -Horizontal battles are conflicts between the empires themselves, such as the US-China Tech War, while vertical battles are the efforts by governments to regulate tech companies within their own markets.

  • What does Anu Bradford predict about the future of the American digital empire?

    -Anu Bradford predicts a decline in the American digital empire's influence due to a global shift away from the market-driven model towards more rights-driven regulations.

  • What are the concerns Anu Bradford raises about the European regulatory model's global adoption?

    -Anu Bradford raises concerns about the European regulatory model's compatibility with innovation, effective enforcement of regulations, and its appeal in authoritarian or authoritarian-leaning countries.

  • Why is the battle over the future of liberal democracy considered the most important by Anu Bradford?

    -The battle over the future of liberal democracy is considered the most important because it determines whether digital economies are governed by democratic principles or by authoritarian regimes or tech companies, both of which could undermine liberal democracy.

Outlines

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πŸ“š Introduction to the Speaker and the Topic

The speaker, Anu Bradford, is introduced as an influential authority on the concept of the 'Brussels Effect,' which she first explored in her book published in 2020. Her new book, which is the focus of the discussion, has been recognized by the Financial Times as a best book. The moderator expresses excitement, particularly due to their own work on 'Governing Digital China,' and invites the audience to engage with Anu's work. Anu begins by addressing the global consensus on the need for technology regulation, despite the lack of agreement on its form. She outlines three primary models of digital regulation: the American market-driven model, the Chinese state-driven model, and the European rights-driven model. Each model is characterized by different approaches to balancing innovation, state control, and individual rights.

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🌐 The Concept of Digital Empires

Anu Bradford discusses the term 'digital empires,' which she uses metaphorically to describe the global influence of the United States, China, and the European Union in technology regulation. Each empire is characterized by its unique approach to exporting its regulatory model. The US is noted for its tech companies' global reach, China for its infrastructure projects, and the EU for its regulatory superpower status. The speaker argues that these empires are not just coexisting but also competing in the global digital governance landscape, leading to both horizontal and vertical regulatory battles. Horizontal battles involve conflicts between the empires themselves, such as the US-China Tech War, while vertical battles are internal struggles within each empire's tech industry.

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πŸ›‘οΈ The Decline of the American Digital Empire

The speaker predicts the decline of the American digital empire due to a loss of trust in the market-driven model of technology governance. She notes a global shift towards privacy regulations and competition laws, moving away from the US model. The European rights-driven model is gaining traction, especially in democratic countries. However, there are concerns about the European model's compatibility with innovation, given Europe's lack of leading tech companies. The speaker suggests that factors other than digital regulation, such as market integration, capital markets, risk-taking culture, and global talent attraction, better explain Europe's position in the tech industry.

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🌟 Innovation and the European Regulatory Model

Anu Bradford addresses the myth that European digital regulation hinders innovation, arguing that other factors like market fragmentation, capital market structure, cultural attitudes towards risk, and the attraction of global talent are more significant. She emphasizes that the US's success in tech innovation is partly due to its ability to attract immigrant founders and foster a culture that embraces failure as a stepping stone to success. The speaker also raises concerns about the European model's enforcement, suggesting that without effective implementation, the regulatory victories could be hollow, and the American model might still prevail.

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🌍 The Battle for Liberal Democracy in the Digital Age

The speaker concludes with a discussion on the battle for the future of liberal democracy in the digital age. She expresses concern that liberal democracy could deteriorate if the US and EU lose the horizontal battle to China or the vertical battle to tech companies. She calls for liberal democracies to demonstrate an effective way to govern technology that aligns with democratic values. The speaker also highlights the challenge posed by China's tech industry, which has thrived without political freedom, and the potential for generative AI to become a battleground where the correlation between freedom and innovation could be tested.

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Keywords

πŸ’‘Brussels Effect

The 'Brussels Effect' refers to the phenomenon where the European Union's regulations and standards become globally influential, often adopted by companies worldwide even outside of the EU's jurisdiction. In the video, Anu Bradford discusses her book 'The Brussels Effect' and how the EU's regulatory approach to technology is shaping global practices, illustrating the EU's significant role as a regulatory superpower in the digital age.

πŸ’‘Digital Regulation

Digital regulation pertains to the governance and oversight of technology and digital platforms. The video emphasizes the need for global consensus on how to regulate technology, with Bradford outlining three distinct models: the American market-driven model, the Chinese state-driven model, and the European rights-driven model.

πŸ’‘Market-driven Model

The market-driven model is characterized by minimal government intervention, prioritizing free speech, free internet, and innovation. Companies like tech giants have significant autonomy in this model. The video discusses how this approach is being questioned globally, with a shift towards more regulation as seen in the EU's approach.

πŸ’‘State-driven Model

The state-driven model is exemplified by China, where the government plays a central role in leveraging technology for economic growth, social stability, and political control. The video highlights China's use of technology for surveillance and censorship, contrasting it with the more liberal approaches of the US and EU.

πŸ’‘Rights-driven Model

The rights-driven model, as described in the video, is the European approach to digital regulation that emphasizes protecting individual rights, democratic structures, and ensuring a fair distribution of digital transformation benefits. This model is gaining traction as an alternative to the American and Chinese models, especially in democratic countries.

πŸ’‘Horizontal Battles

Horizontal battles refer to the regulatory conflicts between the digital empires (US, China, EU). The video discusses how these empires are not only shaping their own digital landscapes but also exporting their models, leading to tensions and regulatory battles, such as the ongoing US-China tech war.

πŸ’‘Vertical Battles

Vertical battles are the internal struggles within each empire between governments and tech companies over regulation. The video notes how governments, including the US, are increasingly regulating their domestic tech sectors, reflecting a global trend towards more assertive governance in the digital space.

πŸ’‘Techno Libertarian

Techno libertarianism is an ideology that advocates for minimal government intervention in technology and digital markets. The video critiques this approach, suggesting it has led to overreach by tech companies and is being replaced by more regulatory models like the EU's rights-driven model.

πŸ’‘Splinternet

The term 'splinternet' refers to a fragmented internet, where different regions or countries have distinct regulatory environments and technological landscapes. The video argues against this notion, suggesting that while there are distinct models, there is also significant overlap and interaction between them.

πŸ’‘GDPR

GDPR stands for the General Data Protection Regulation, a comprehensive data protection law in the EU. It is mentioned in the video as an example of the EU's regulatory power and its influence on global data privacy standards, highlighting the EU's role in shaping digital rights.

πŸ’‘Digital Empires

Digital empires, as used in the video, metaphorically describes the US, China, and EU as major powers with distinct models of digital governance that are exported globally. The term underscores the extent to which these regions' policies and regulations impact the global digital landscape.

Highlights

Introduction of Anu Bradford, the author who coined the term 'Brussels Effect' and her influential books.

The concept of 'Brussels Effect' and its significance in global governance.

Three primary models of digital regulation: American market-driven, Chinese state-driven, and European rights-driven.

The American model's emphasis on free speech, free internet, and minimal government intervention.

China's focus on becoming a technological superpower and using technology for surveillance and social control.

Europe's unique approach to digital regulation, prioritizing human rights and democratic values.

The 'digital Empires' concept, explaining the global influence of the US, China, and EU in technology regulation.

How each 'Empire' exports different aspects of their regulatory models: private power, infrastructure, and regulation.

The coexistence and collision of digital Empires in the global marketplace.

Horizontal battles: conflicts between the US, China, and EU over technology regulation.

Vertical battles: governments' efforts to regulate tech companies within their own markets.

Prediction of the decline of the American digital Empire due to a loss of trust in tech company governance.

The growing appeal of the European rights-driven model outside the EU, especially in democratic countries.

Concerns about the European model's compatibility with innovation and the lack of leading European tech companies.

The challenge for the US and EU to persuade countries not to emulate the Chinese model, given China's tech success without political freedom.

The high stakes in the battle for the future of liberal democracy in the digital age.

The need for liberal democracies to demonstrate effective governance of technology to maintain their values.

Transcripts

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let me introduce to to you our speaker

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of course many of you joined because you

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know Anu Bradford about the term that

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she coined the Brussels effect um and

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her first uh book which was called the

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Brussels effect how the European Union

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rules the world published in 2020 which

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was named one of the best books um of

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2020 by Foreign Affairs her new book

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that she will speak about today has also

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already been been named a best book by

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the financial times we're very much

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looking forward um to to learning more

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about it uh of course I'm particularly

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excited because I'm currently also

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writing a book finishing up a book

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project and who knows a little bit about

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called governing digital China so um so

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I see my role later on to sort of use my

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China and also Europe head to POS some

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questions but um as I said before please

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um please use this opportunity really to

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um to pose any questions you may have

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about anus work so um alna without

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further Ado the floor is all

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yours wonderful thank you so much

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Daniela and uh and thank you all for

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joining this is truly um an exciting uh

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audience for me to engage with there's

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incredible work that is being done uh at

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hery so I am very eager to hear your

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questions and comments and and then

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after the initial remarks move to that

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conversation so let me maybe start with

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the uh some um General premises for the

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book why I wrote it and what the

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starting point is so I start from this

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assumption that I'm observing that there

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is increasingly now globally a consensus

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that technology needs to be regulated

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but there is no consensus on what that

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regulation would look like so in the

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digital Empires I argue that there are

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three primary ways to think about

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digital regulation there is the American

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Market driven model there is the Chinese

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State driven model and and then there's

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a European what I call a rights driven

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model so the American uh Market driven

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model really prioritizes free speech

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free internet and incentives to innovate

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so the government is reserved only a

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minimal role and the governance of

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technology is basically handed over

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largely to the tech companies so it is a

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technol Libertarian techno Optimist VI

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of the world the Chinese on the other

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hand they are very focused on making

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China a technological superpower and

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under the state driven model they are

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prepared to leverage State resources to

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meet the goal but China is also

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leveraging technology as a tool for

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surveillance and propaganda and

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censorship in an effort to preserve the

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political power of the Communist party

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and then to ensure social stability in

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the nation so in this debate the

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Europeans are often portrayed as being

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forced to to choose between the US and

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China because the Europeans lack a

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thriving technology industry on its own

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that would be comparable to the two uh

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superpowers in the domain of Technology

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but in the book I argue that the

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Europeans are not prepared to nor are

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they forced to to choose between the

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Chinese and the American model the

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Chinese model for the Europeans is

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simply too oppressive but at the same

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time the American model is viewed as to

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permissive so the Europeans have carved

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out their own third path forward and

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this is premised on a human Centric

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digital transformation a regulatory

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model on under which the Europeans are

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maximizing the fundamental rights of

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individuals the preservation of

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democratic structures of the society and

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they also incorporate a notion of a more

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fair distribution of the gains from

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digital transformation so the idea is

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that we are redistributing power away

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from large platforms to smaller

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companies to digital citizens and to the

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public and Society at large so these are

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the primary regulatory models that I'm

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using as an analytical framework but you

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may wonder why I call these three

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leading technology and Regulatory Powers

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digital Empires so Empires is a big term

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it is a provocative term but and I use

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it more metaphorically but at the same

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time I think it is conceptually helpful

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for us for the following reason is that

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none of the three regulatory models are

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confined to the jurisdictions themselves

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instead each Empire is proactively

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exporting its own regulatory model aboad

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but what is interesting is that each of

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the regulatory powers are exporting

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something different the Americans are

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primarily exporting the private power of

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US tech companies which basically were

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set free to take over the world which

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they have uh uh effectively done so

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companies like meta's Facebook has three

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billion users in 160 countries and

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through this Global Presence by offering

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the services and products to the users

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around the world they are also exporting

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this American Market driven model that

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all of us are now accustomed to the

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Chinese are exporting something

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different they are primarily exporting

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infrastructure power so Chinese tech

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companies are building 5G networks

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undersea cables um data centers smart

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Cities Safe cities along this digital

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Silk Road that reaches across Asia many

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parts of Africa Latin America and even

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Europe so if the American s export the

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private power of the tech companies

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Chinese are building the infrastructures

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what is the export of the Europeans

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Europeans are exporting the superpower

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they have which is regulation so this is

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now tying to my earlier work on the

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Brussels effect and I argue it is also

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taking place in the domain of digital

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economy so Europe often takes the lead

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in drafting regulations for the

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technology companies and then through

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the globalization of practices of tech

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companies they business decision to

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often adopt those those standards across

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their Global conduct or Global

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Production these companies are then

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exporting the European digital

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regulations across the global

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Marketplace so if the first argument of

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the book was that this is not just a us

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China game the EU is also an Empire the

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EU is a player we should focus on three

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players the second argument is that this

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is not just a digital world that we

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would think think about in terms of a

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splinternet where we would have these

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separate spheres of influence that do

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not overlap because each Empire is

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contributing a different layer to the

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global digital governance you have many

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nonaligned markets or unaligned powers

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where you see Chinese infrastructure

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American tech companies and European

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regulations present at the same time

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which means that these digital Empires

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are coexisting and at times colliding in

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the global Marketplace and this really

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leads to the kind of battles that the

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book then talks about and I distinguish

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between two levels of regulatory battles

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I talk about horizontal battles and

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vertical battles and these two intersect

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so horizontal battles are really the

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battles between the empires themselves

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the most notorious battle being the

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ongoing and constantly escalating us

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China Tech War it is a war for

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technological Supremacy a battle for

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economic geopolitical military and

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ideological strength in the domain of

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Technology but we also can witness a

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regulatory battles another horizontal

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battle mainly taking place between the

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United States and Europe where the US

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companies have come to the European

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marketplace where Europeans feel that

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they are

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overextending they they their power they

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are EX exercising the kind of economic

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power political power cultural power

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informational power that is too much for

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the Europeans which is why the Europeans

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have asserted themselves and then

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extended their regulations to to reach

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those American tech companies which has

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then occasionally led to criticism in

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the US saying it's not that our

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companies are overreaching it's your

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Regulators that are overreaching and

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seeking to govern our companies as well

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so in addition to those those horizontal

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battles between the empires each Empire

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is battling vertically the tech

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companies in their own Marketplace so we

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see constant efforts by the governments

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to regulate their tech companies in

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their own markets even the United States

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government is now rethinking its techn

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libertarian convictions and is looking

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to start regulating the US tech

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companies many of you may have looked at

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the may have seen the executive order by

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president Biden in the domain of

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artificial intelligence that's pretty

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far removed from a pure Market driven

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model that has a very much the same tone

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as the European rights driven model but

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at the same time the the Americans are

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considering digital regulation in the

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shadow of that horizontal battle they

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are worried that if they are too

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vigorous in restraining the tech

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companies in the domestic Market they

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are eroding the very asset they need to

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Prevail in the horizontal battle they

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need these tech companies to be

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successful they need them to innovate

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they need them to lead in AI so that

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they win the horizontal battle which

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means we will see more restraint in

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those vertical battles it's only so far

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the Americans are willing to go but the

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same way we see restrain in the

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horizontal battle the Americans are not

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going all the way restricting the flow

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of American Technology to the Chinese

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market because the American companies

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need access to that Chinese market so we

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see more restraint alongside rivalry in

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these various

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battles so let me now move to the

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question that may interest many of you

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which is who wins these battles who

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prevails what happens in the horizontal

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battle and what happens in the vertical

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battle and here I'm prepared to make a

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couple of predictions uh in the in the

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book and one of them is that I predict

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the decline line of the American digital

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Empire the US is losing the ideological

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battle there are very few individuals or

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governments around the world that

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anymore trust the governance of

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technology to the tech companies

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themselves instead there is now move

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away from the the techn libertarian

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worldview whereby governments around the

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world are adopting privacy regulations

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asserting they antitrust their

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competition regul ulations rethinking

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the disinformation looking for ways to

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regulate content and now there's a

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global conversation on the need to

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regulate artificial intelligence so this

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all is a move away clearly from the

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American Market driven model that is

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widely seen as un inept uh inep today to

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govern the challenges of today's digital

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economy so if the American Market driven

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model is no longer having the same kind

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of global appeal that is good news for

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the European rights driven model which

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is gaining more attaction also outside

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of the EU especially in the Democratic

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World in countries like Canada Australia

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or South Korea or Japan or New Zealand

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the governments are looking to the ways

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that Europe is governing the digital

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economy however there are potentially

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three concerns that I want to share with

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you that are are giving government some

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PS as as to whether the European

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regulatory model is the right one the

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first concern is this idea that can the

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European rights driven reg regulatory

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model actually be compatible with

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Innovation will it mean that if we move

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towards the European model we will see

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less successful tech companies emerge

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and this is driven really by this uh uh

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visible OBS this observation that that

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Europeans are very good good at at

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writing regulations we all know about

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the gdpr but it takes us a longer time

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to name a European tech company Europe

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does not produce leading tech companies

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which many attribute to excessive

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digital

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regulation I don't think digital

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regulation is the problem even though I

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do worry about European competitiveness

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and I think there are other reasons that

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explain why the Europeans haven't

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managed to compete with for instance

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Americans that have very little to do

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with the European commitment to protect

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the fundamental rights or otherwise

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regulate the digital economy so let me

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just mention four that I think are much

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more important so one is that compared

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to the United States there is no

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integrated digital single Market in the

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EU it is very hard for tech companies to

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grow in the EU they cannot scale if they

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face barriers that that follow the

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national boundaries in the EU second

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there is no deep IND created robust

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Capital markets in the EU Capital

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markets are also balkanized which makes

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it much harder to fund your Innovations

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in the EU third issue risk-taking is

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actively discouraged under European

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cultural Outlook but also under European

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legislative Frameworks I blame

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bankruptcy laws which are punitive in

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most European countries it is often

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fatal to f in the EU you cannot take

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risks because if you fail you cannot

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raise money again and you are not given

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a second chance whereas failure is built

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into the Silicon Valley and American

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whole Tech ecosystem and that regulatory

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model we want the entrepreneurs to try

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big things to kind of head head towards

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the cliff and some fall off the cliff

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but but that's just part of the system

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it's a right of passage you fail then

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you raise money again and maybe the next

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time you very very successful so

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Americans are much more comfortable with

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failure which also means they are much

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more comfortable for pursuing disruptive

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risky Innovations which is absolutely

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critical for Tech economy and let me

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name a fourth issue that I think really

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explains why the Europeans are not

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succeeding at the level of Americans

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which is Americans are much better inh

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harnessing the Global Talent to benefit

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American innovation base so over 50% of

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over $1 billion startups in the US have

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an immigrant founder and if we for a

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moment just look at the household names

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the leading platform companies and they

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Founders Steve Jobs of Apple is a son of

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a Syrian immigrant Jeff basos of Amazon

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is the second generation Cuban immigrant

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um Elon Musk of Tesla is South African

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Serge Brin the co-founder of uh of

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Google is a Russian and Edward sain a

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co-founder of Facebook is Brazilian

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these are just examples of how America

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has been so successful on being a magnet

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for Global Talent the Europeans are not

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succeeding at the same rate so I spent

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some extra time laying this out because

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I want to debunk this myth that somehow

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Europeans are behind because they

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committed to digital regulation I don't

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think that if we now decided to scrap

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the gdpr or decide never to go ahead

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with the AI act that somehow a year from

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now or five years from now there would

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be massive Tech economy emanating from

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Europe there are all these other

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elements other pillars of the tech

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ecosystem that the Europeans need to

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work on which also means that if the

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Americans that still remain somewhat

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hesitant now where to move towards the

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European rights Ren model it's not that

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somehow we would not have uh uh

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Innovation coming from the United States

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the federal Privacy Law in the US would

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not dismantle the US capital markets so

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prevent the Global Talent from finding

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their way to the United States so back

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to my my question what are the potential

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hesitations about the growing success of

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of the EU regulatory model I don't think

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overregulation is the problem I'm much

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more worried about the Europeans

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underdoing it by which I mean the

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Europeans are very good at writing

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regulations but they don't have the good

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track record of en forcing uh the

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regulations so we do not see as

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successful implementation and as

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effective enforcement of that ambitious

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regulatory agenda which if the Europe

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which means if the Europeans fail to

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really translate these regulations into

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effective Market outcomes they victory

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in this horizontal battle is a hollow

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one in practice the American Market

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driven model prevails if these

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regulations cannot be effectively

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enforced

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third concern that I have about the

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European uh uh models Victory it's doing

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well in the Democratic world but it

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doesn't have many takers in the

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authoritarian or authoritarian leaning

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world and that part of the world is

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constantly growing there are many

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developing countries many countries that

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are authoritarian that have no interest

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in right driven model rights driven

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model they are much more drawn to the

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Chinese State driven model and I think

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there are a couple of reasons why it is

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very difficult for Europeans and for the

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Americans if they try to work with the

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Europeans and persuade the rest of the

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world not to emulate the Chinese model

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not to take the Chinese infrastructure

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and rather align themselves with the the

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global techn democracies one issue is

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that I mentioned this Chinese

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infrastructure power that infrastructure

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is vital for many countries digital

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development that is the path that they

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cannot afford to to say no to especially

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if there is no alternative Chinese

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infrastructure is pretty good and it is

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Affordable and often it is the only game

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in town the Europeans have a couple of

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alternatives to Huawei Nokia and Ericson

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they don't come with the kind of

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financial uh subsidies that allow the

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countries to acquire them at a

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reasonable rate that the Chinese

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government is providing to support the

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Chinese infrastructure Acquisitions

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second issue and this is something that

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I was very uncomfortable writing in the

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book I I wrote this paragraph and I I

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did not like it but it had to be there

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because I think it happens to be

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intellectually honest and true China has

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shown to the world that political

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freedom is not necessary for Innovation

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they have managed to create a thriving

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Tech economy without being free so it's

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very hard for the US and the EU to go to

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the rest of the world and tell them that

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look you should not take the Chinese m

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model because if you follow the Chinese

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model the state driven one you will gain

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control but you will not see economic

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growth these countries look at China and

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say look I think we can get both we can

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have the political control and we can

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have Innovation and economic growth here

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my slide caveat is which I'm watching

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very carefully right now is that in

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generative AI the Chinese companies are

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lagging behind the US counterpart and

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one challenge for Chinese compan here is

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that any generative AI model needs to be

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consistent with the censorship regime

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which limits the amount of data that you

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can use and the ways that you can use

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the data to train these models so there

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may be a chance for the US and the EU to

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say that we are Vindicated ultimately

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Freedom does correlate with greater

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Innovation but let me now uh move to the

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to uh the the the most important Battle

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of all the one that I think really has

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the highest stake and that is the battle

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over the future of liberal democracy and

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this is the one the battle that leaves

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me most concerned and I would want to

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invite you to all to consider that this

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battle can be lost in one of two ways

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liberal democracy will deteriorate if

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the US and the EU lose the horizontal

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battle to China and I have given some

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suggestions why it might be that that

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that could be the case second we also

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need to realize that liberal democracy

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will also deteriorate if the US and the

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EU lose their vertical battle to tech

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companies a digital economy governed by

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tech companies and not democratic

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governments is also not consistent with

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liberal democracy and here I am worried

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because the United States even though

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it's now rethinking its commitment to

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markets and and is willing to regulate

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it its Congress is not capable of

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legislating China is capable of

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legislating the Europeans are able to

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legislate but they have a hard time

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enforcing China doesn't have a hard time

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enforcing if the Chinese Communist Party

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decides it's time to crack down on big

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Tech the Chinese Communist Party does

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crack down on the big Tech so what

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really needs to be done is for Liberal

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democracies like the EU to show to the

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world that there is a liberal Democratic

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way to govern technology that will be

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effective that will be shaping the

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outcomes otherwise we are forced to

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concede that Li that digital economy is

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either governed by

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authoritarians whereby democratic

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governments are destined to fail in that

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same Endeavor or in Liberal democracies

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the digital economies governed by tech

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companies and neither is a good outcome

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for anybody who believes in Liberal

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democracy as a foundation of Digital

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Society and human engagement because

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that would force us to conclude that the

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true digital Empires are the

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authoritarians and the tech companies

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