It’s Perfect. It’s Unusable. - Snapdragon for a Month Challenge Conclusion

Linus Tech Tips
28 Aug 202418:07

Summary

TLDRIn this video, the hosts discuss their month-long experience using laptops powered by Qualcomm Snapdragon processors. They share their perspectives on battery life, compatibility with various software, and overall performance. While acknowledging some limitations with certain applications, they highlight the laptops' suitability for browsing, light work, and as a secondary device. The conversation also touches on gaming experiences, with some popular titles not working well, and praises the laptops' build quality, keyboard, webcam, and microphone. The hosts conclude that these laptops are a good value, especially for those who don't rely on heavy applications or already own a primary computer.

Takeaways

  • 🔋 The speakers experienced a significant improvement in laptop battery life without the constant need to charge, with one going an entire week without charging.
  • 🎁 A sponsorship mention for Segways Ridge, promoting a sweepstakes with prizes like a gold-plated cyber truck or $100,000 in cash until September 13th.
  • 💻 A shift in mindset about battery usage was observed, with less urgency to charge as battery levels dropped, even when critical.
  • 🛠️ The laptop's performance was put to the test with various tasks, including video conferencing, script editing, and email management, all running smoothly on browser-based programs.
  • 👾 Some software, like Bon Jour, had minor issues but did not significantly impact the user experience.
  • 🖥️ The laptop's performance with heavy programs like SolidWorks was deemed usable, especially for small adjustments and not for handling large assemblies.
  • 🎥 Video editing with Adobe Premiere was a challenge due to emulation issues and compatibility with only the 2023 version, leading to a subpar experience.
  • 🎮 Gaming on the laptop was mixed, with popular titles not working, but the user adapted by choosing games that were compatible.
  • 📚 For university students, the laptop might be suitable as a secondary device but not for gaming or certain video editing tasks.
  • 🖱️ The physical aspects of the laptop, such as the keyboard, webcam, and microphone, received positive feedback for their quality.
  • 🌐 Wi-Fi connectivity was an issue in some cases, with the laptop disconnecting unexpectedly, which could be due to antenna design or hardware issues.

Q & A

  • What was the main concern about the laptop's battery life at the beginning of the video?

    -The main concern was that the participants were worried they might not have enough battery life to last through their work without needing to charge frequently.

  • What was the promotional event mentioned in the script?

    -The promotional event was a massive sweepstakes by Ridge, which included prizes like a Hennessy Velociraptor, a gold-plated cyber truck, or $100,000 in cash, running from the time of the script until September 13th.

  • How did the participants' mindset change regarding their laptop's battery life after using it for a while?

    -The participants' mindset changed from being anxious about charging their laptops constantly to being more relaxed and not worrying about charging until they finished their tasks, even if the battery was critically low.

  • What was the experience with video conferencing and other browser-based tasks on the laptop?

    -The experience with video conferencing, Discord, OBS, and other browser-based tasks was positive, with everything working perfectly despite the laptop being used for an extended period without charging.

  • What issues were encountered with the software 'Bong Jour'?

    -There were some slightly weird occurrences with 'Bong Jour,' but they were not significant enough for the user to be bothered and go back to worrying about their battery life.

  • How did the user's experience with SolidWorks on the laptop compare to their old laptop?

    -The user found the performance of SolidWorks on the new laptop to be usable and very similar to their old laptop, which had a low-powered 2-in-1 CPU that was slow when released two years ago.

  • What challenges did the user face when trying to edit videos on the laptop?

    -The user faced challenges with video editing software compatibility and performance. Premiere was emulated and the experience was not good, with issues rendering videos and After Effects being missing. The user also had to convert their projects to the 2023 versions for compatibility.

  • What was the user's experience with gaming on the laptop?

    -The user found that while some games worked fine, popular titles like League of Legends, Valorant, and Fortnite did not work at all, and Minecraft was too laggy. The user adapted by finding games that were compatible with the device.

  • What was the user's opinion on the laptop's display?

    -The user was impressed with the laptop's display, describing it as a fantastic 3:2 Quad HD 120Hz screen that was bright enough to use outdoors and did not stand out as a significant power draw.

  • What was the final verdict on using the laptop as a primary device for work?

    -The final verdict was that the laptop might not be suitable as a primary device for work due to software compatibility issues and the lack of a backup plan when an application does not work. However, it was recommended as a secondary or tertiary device for those who already have other computers for more demanding tasks.

Outlines

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🔋 Impressive Battery Life and Sponsorship

The video script begins with a discussion on the impressive battery life of laptops, with some participants not needing to charge their devices for days or even a week without issues. The conversation then shifts to a sponsorship promotion for Segways Ridge, highlighting a sweepstakes with enticing prizes such as a gold-plated cyber truck or cash. The participants also touch on the change in mindset regarding battery anxiety and the seamless performance of their devices, even during critical battery levels. The script also introduces an Arc GPU challenge, inviting viewers to use Intel Arc for a month, and shares the initial impressions of the challenge, emphasizing the unexpected smooth experience despite the lack of software installations on the laptops.

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🎮 Gaming and Video Editing Experiences

The second paragraph delves into the user experience of gaming and video editing on the new laptops. While some games like League of Legends, valorant, and Fortnite failed to run, others like Minecraft were too laggy, suggesting that these devices may not be suitable for gaming with friends. The video editing experience was mixed, with Premiere Pro initially not working but later becoming available, albeit with performance issues, especially when handling 4K multicam sequences. The participants also discuss the limitations of emulation and the lack of a backup plan when applications fail, leading to a reliance on traditional x86 computers for certain tasks. However, they also highlight the positive aspects, such as the good keyboard, webcam, and microphone quality, and the overall light and portable design of the laptops.

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💻 Adjusting to New Laptops and AI Features

In the third paragraph, the discussion continues with the adjustment period to the new laptops, focusing on the flexibility and adaptability of users to find games that work with the device. The screen quality is praised for its brightness and outdoor usability, and the battery life is again highlighted as a significant advantage. The conversation also touches on the importance of the webcam and microphone for video calls, the quiet operation of the fan, and the overall positive physical appearance of the laptop. Additionally, the participants express their views on AI features, particularly the co-pilot button, and how they have not utilized it as much as expected, despite being fans of AI and its accessibility.

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🛍️ Final Thoughts and Sponsor Mention

The final paragraph wraps up the video script with the participants sharing their overall impressions of the laptops. They express satisfaction with the devices, considering them excellent as secondary or tertiary computers, especially for those who already have other computers for heavy tasks. The script also mentions the competitive pricing of the laptops compared to other CPU options on the market. The video concludes with a sponsorship mention for Manscaped, promoting their dome shaver Pro and aftershave lotion, and encouraging viewers to take advantage of a discount and free international shipping offer.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Battery life

Battery life refers to the amount of time a device can operate on a full charge without needing to be recharged. In the video, the theme revolves around the impressive battery life of the laptops being discussed, with the script mentioning not having to charge the laptops for days or even a week without any issues, showcasing a significant aspect of the user experience.

💡Emulation

Emulation is the process by which one system imitates the functions of another system. The script discusses the challenges of running certain software, like Adobe Premiere, on the laptops through emulation, which is a way to make applications compatible with different hardware architectures, but it can lead to performance issues as experienced by the video creators.

💡Snapdragon

Snapdragon is a series of mobile system-on-chips (SoCs) designed by Qualcomm for use in smartphones and other mobile devices. The script mentions the use of a Snapdragon challenge, indicating a test or trial involving devices powered by these chips, which is central to the video's exploration of laptop performance and efficiency.

💡Video editing

Video editing is the process of manipulating and combining video shots to create a final product. The script describes the difficulties encountered while trying to edit videos on the laptops, such as compatibility issues with Adobe Premiere, which is a key aspect of the video's examination of the laptops' capabilities for creative work.

💡Gaming

Gaming refers to the activity of playing video games. The video script discusses the gaming experience on the laptops, noting that while some popular games did not work, others were playable, offering insight into the laptops' performance for leisure activities and the balance between work and entertainment.

💡Webcam

A webcam is a digital camera that captures and sends images to a computer, typically used for video conferencing. The script praises the quality of the webcam on the laptops, highlighting it as a standout feature that received compliments during video calls, which is important for remote work and communication.

💡Co-pilot

In the context of the script, 'co-pilot' likely refers to an AI assistant or feature that aids in tasks such as writing or research. The video creators mention using AI tools like co-pilots to enhance their workflow, reflecting the growing integration of AI in various professional and creative processes.

💡Wi-Fi 6E

Wi-Fi 6E is an extension of Wi-Fi 6 that operates in the 6 GHz frequency band, offering faster speeds and lower latency. The script mentions the inclusion of Wi-Fi 6E in the laptops, which is an important feature for connectivity, but also notes issues with Wi-Fi reliability, indicating a potential drawback in the user experience.

💡Display

The display refers to the screen of a device, which is a critical component for visual interaction. The script emphasizes the high quality of the laptop displays, mentioning specifications like 3:2 aspect ratio, Quad HD resolution, and 120 Hz refresh rate, which contribute to an enhanced viewing experience for both work and entertainment.

💡Secondary computer

A secondary computer is an additional device used alongside a primary one, often for specific tasks or for increased mobility. The video concludes with a recommendation of the laptops as suitable secondary computers, given their limitations for certain tasks, suggesting a use case for those who already have a primary device for more intensive work.

💡Manscaped

Manscaped is a brand mentioned in the script as a sponsor, known for grooming products. The script uses a humorous analogy relating to the brand's product, the Dome Shaver Pro, to the smoothness of a sphere in Las Vegas, indicating a promotional aspect of the video content.

Highlights

Laptop users can go for days without charging, indicating impressive battery life.

Sponsor Segways Ridge is offering a sweepstakes with high-value prizes until September 13th.

The mindset shift from worrying about battery percentages to focusing on finishing tasks before charging.

Using a laptop with minimal software installations can lead to unexpected battery efficiency.

Browser-based programs and video conferencing tools work seamlessly on the tested laptops.

Software like Bon Jour has minor issues but doesn't significantly impact user experience.

SolidWorks and other heavy programs show usable performance on the laptop, even for occasional use.

Car audio tuning software compatibility and performance on the laptop were surprisingly good.

Video editing on the laptop was challenging due to software emulation and compatibility issues.

The laptop's webcam received compliments for its high quality during video calls.

Gaming experience on the laptop was mixed, with popular titles not working, but others like Animal Crossing running well.

The laptop's display was a standout feature, with a high refresh rate and brightness suitable for outdoor use.

The laptop's fan was almost inaudible, making it suitable for quiet environments like lectures.

The laptop's physical appearance, keyboard, and microphone were all highly praised for their quality.

The laptop's Wi-Fi performance was inconsistent, with connectivity issues in certain areas.

The laptop is recommended as a secondary or tertiary device, not as a primary computer for all tasks.

Comparisons to AMD and Intel CPUs highlight the trade-offs between price, performance, and compatibility.

Manscaped's Dome Shaver Pro and Dome Soother lotion are promoted for a smooth and comfortable shave experience.

Transcripts

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ah good month eh right I haven't charged

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my laptop in days couldn't care less I

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didn't charge mine for an entire week

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have not had a single problem me neither

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but there has been one thing stressing

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me

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out I just want to get my work

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done I was worried we might not have

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enough content to talk about but now

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that's solved too sponsor Segways

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Ridge they're doing a massive sweep

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Stakes now until September 13th with

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prizes like a Hennessy Velociraptor not

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the dinosaur a goldplated cyber truck or

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$100,000 in cash enter for free and get

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one entry per dollar spent using the

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link in the

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description the first sign that this ch

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all was going to be a little different

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than the previous ones was the number of

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people who wanted to participate Arc GPU

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challenge anyone want to use Intel Arc

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for a

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month come on Snapdragon challenge

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anyone want to use one of these for a

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month oh my

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God and it's easy to see why people want

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it in my entire mindset has changed to

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the point where I used to see a sliver

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of battery and I would drop everything

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that I was doing and dash to the outlet

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whereas

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now I think hm interesting I guess I'll

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finish up a few things and then maybe

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I'll plug in at some point right on one

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of my first days okay I got a

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notification that I was at 10% battery

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and it was in critical mode I then

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proceeded to finish up a team's voice

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call including screen sharing on that

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call I made some edits to a script I

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then wrote a couple of emails did some

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notes checked my battery life and hm

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casual ual 6% no problem however it's

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worth noting that in the last month I've

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used my laptop the way that I use my

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laptop which is to say I've installed

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basically nothing on it we don't even

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use word in the writing Department

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anymore so almost everything I do is in

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a browser or a browser based program

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I've used it for video conferencing

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Discord OBS screen cap okay that's not

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in a browser but all of those things

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worked perfectly now

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I have had some slightly weird stuff

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happen with bong Jour always um but it

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hasn't really bothered me enough to go

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back to worrying about my battery life

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yeah for me the experience has been even

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better than I expected in a month I have

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charge my laptop a total of five times

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and if you look at the dates there is an

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entire week where I did not plug it in

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once obviously during that week I was

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not using it a ton typically two 3 hours

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a day day something like that but with

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every other laptop that I've ever used

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Windows Apple you just cannot do that

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that's actually really good point

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because lots of Windows laptops are

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rated for eight plus hours of battery

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life yeah that's not the issue the issue

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is when I go to use it the next day on

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any other laptop 20% battery end of the

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day you have to plug it in on this it's

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like okay 20% I'll use it for 4 hours

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tomorrow great the heaviest program I

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use regularly is solid works and for

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occasional use like what I do on the Go

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performance is

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usable for me it is fine because any

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large assemblies I need to tackle I just

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do on my desktop and I only run solid

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works on my laptop to make small

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adjustments to Parts in the shop but it

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is emulated and the raw performance is

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very similar to my old laptop which has

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a low powerered 2p cor CPU that was slow

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when it was released 2 years ago right

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what I was afraid would be a deal

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breaker for me was car audio but it's

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actually just totally fine our

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calibrated measurement microphones just

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worked allowing me to get these

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measurements right here for MX5 review

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watch it on short circuit and then came

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the much bigger challenge doing a new

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tune on my car no way this involved

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Niche DSP drivers a bunch of random

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Windows run times and direct lives

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licensing server all to cooperate which

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is not even a guarantee on regular x86

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Windows machine maches but it just did

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it and now I have a 2C tune of my car it

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sounds absolutely fantastic so

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unfortunately uh my work can't be really

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done on the pen and paper what are you

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saying about what I do is also work well

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my work is you know more video editing

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and uh I can't really Video Edit on like

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you know a pen and

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paper and as a recent graduate uh I

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decided to take a perspective of a

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university student because I feel like

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University students are the people who

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really buy these laptops so I just like

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oh it'd be a cool way to determine if

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this is actually good for you know

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people school yeah exactly yeah cuz

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you're not going to have another

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computer exactly yeah the first and

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simplest thing I try to do was watch

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YouTube videos but instead I got audio

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render issues saying I need to reset my

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computer fortunately I had this great

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LTT laptop bag LTT store.com man this

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thing is freaking awesome it's got all

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the room opens up so big

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oh yeah baby stores everything sorry

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sorry sorry what were you saying well

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fortunately the computer was one step

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ahead of me there because for the first

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couple of days I had a load of crashes

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that restarted the computer for me next

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I want to edit some flow plan exclusives

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which I thought be fine because qualcom

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did say that they're going to support

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Adobe crater Suites which turns out it

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was only Photoshop and graphic design

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stuff no Premiere great no I thought

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Premiere works when I first got it the

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my first thing was to try installing it

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and it was wasn't there I was like

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what's up with that it just

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works fortunately after a week of daily

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driving it it was there but there was a

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catch After Effects still missing so I

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couldn't do any of the fun Graphics

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Premiere was emulated andoss it just

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sucked honestly using premiere on this

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thing was not a good experience there is

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one more thing to say it's in the script

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he's doing his best but only the 2023

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version is supported like 2024 is three

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qus over and they're only supporting

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2023 I had to convert most of my

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projects to the 2023 versions just so I

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can start editing I tried editing three

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videos the first one was fine until I

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started adding screen caps to it which

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then it pooped itself the second one was

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a YouTube sh at 1080p which was mostly

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fine but I ended up switching to a real

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computer for animations at the end and

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the third one was a 4K multicam sequence

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and oh

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yeah it died I think it loaded it in and

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then it just didn't work there's not a

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chance

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honestly I think the most telling part

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of all of that is the way that you

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referred to a normal x86 computer as a

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real computer so in a month you didn't

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manage to completely edit a single video

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on it even though Premiere is supported

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yeah like the worst part is parsik

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didn't work that great either so I

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didn't really get to remote into my

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desktop and edit it so I was like this I

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determined that the speed I was going to

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go at parcing in versus editing on my

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computer wasn't going to justify it so I

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ended up just moving back to my computer

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yeah I didn't try to use Parc and that's

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the thing right is when an application

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doesn't work you're basically stuck if

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this is your only computer there's

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there's no backup plan the emulation all

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runs automatically so it's not like you

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can install an emulator and maybe it'll

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work now it just doesn't work I actually

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had my first near showstopper just

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yesterday talk about a buzzer beater I

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was using channelizer for the how much

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Wi-Fi is too much video and I started

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getting random crashes at first I

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thought okay it's probably a license

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issue since I haven't checked in with

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metageek for 2 years and then I realized

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oh hold on a second it's always crashing

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after a little while when I go inside

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the chamber maybe it needs an always on

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connection but obviously I wouldn't have

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any Wi-Fi in an RF isolation chamber

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then it turned out that the emulation

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was bad oh wow yeah so nothing to do

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with the license and I had another

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bizarre issue yesterday too I got a

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notification that I was running out of

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battery which was fine I hadn't charged

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it in like 6 days or something like that

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but when the speaker went off I didn't

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think about this until you mentioned

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your audio rendering issues but it

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started

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like like buzzing at me really weird

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which makes me wonder if maybe it's

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something to do with the platform you

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guys haven't actually seen this yet but

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I'm going to show you this is super

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weird

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oh what what the it's like a spaceship

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it just didn't

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stop overall I've been happy with the

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machine though especially the keyboard

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and like I said to you I never use my

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laptop outside so the screen total

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non-issue but I noticed right at the end

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that HP cheaped out on the Wi-Fi I only

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got Wi-Fi 6E instead of Wi-Fi 7 well my

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Surface laptop 7 does have Wi-Fi 7 but I

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would much rather have your 6E chip in

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there if that meant my experience was

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good in areas where my Wi-Fi strength

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wasn't great like you just know that

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spot in your house it just wouldn't work

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sometimes I would load in YouTube video

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and then halfway through it would just

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disconnect from Wi-Fi and it was super

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annoying both of you guys had good Wi-Fi

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right yeah yeah mine was mine was

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perfect actually it was really good yeah

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I used that thing for a week making the

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review I also didn't have an issue so

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that was great I think it's Microsoft

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and their antenna design wait I wonder

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if HP knows something I don't know and

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use the 60 for a reason wh which one's

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yours Wi-Fi 7 must just be the antenna

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design then yeah could also just be a

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bunk unit

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but another area that's been pretty good

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for me is gaming now in our live stream

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half of the games we tested didn't work

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but real world use is a little little

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bit different than just having you guys

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send games to us and US running whatever

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you ask like for me from the time that I

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spent with the steam deck my mentality

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shifted a little bit from I want to game

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I want to play this game and nothing

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else is acceptable to I'm in the mood to

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game I'm willing to find something that

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works with the device that's in front of

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me so obviously it's not the best but I

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actually kind of found that I was okay

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with it yeah if you treat like a second

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computer I think it's okay but I tried

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playing a lot the games that are popular

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with the youth like

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me okay 27 uh like League of Legends

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valerant fortnite and Minecraft the

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first three didn't work like it just it

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would not boot I could download it

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but uh and Minecraft was just too laggy

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so getting one of these laptops for

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school means you probably aren't playing

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games with your friends don't do that

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parents I'm kind of split on this one

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the three games that I play the most

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just straight up do not work on this

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laptop but also they straight up do not

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work on the last laptop that I used

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either so right you used to thin and

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light with old onboard Graphics anyway

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so I'm pretty flexible like I'm going on

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a long flight tomorrow I installed

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animal well on this it works great I do

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not care if I don't get to do 3D games

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on this and at the same time 120 HZ

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display this thing is awesome to game on

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I just I just want to highlight how good

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this screen is Sami screen as well

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fantastic 3x2 Quad HD 12 HZ bright

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enough to use outdoors and the most

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incredible thing is that this display

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did not even stand out in our last video

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typically the two biggest power draws on

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a laptop are the CPU and the display and

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previously I was willing to live with a

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mediocre display because the OLED scream

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option was just not worth it for battery

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life but when the CPU is this efficient

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you can just give up 4 hours of battery

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life and it will be totally fine it

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really is the closest thing that we have

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to the MacBook experience and while game

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compatibility sucks compared to normal

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windows it's still a lot better than

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mac dang sick burn one final thing about

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the surface is that the webcam is

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fantastic in the very first video call

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that I had on it I got compliments of

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just how great it looks yeah I also got

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compliments on it mic was good and

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webcam was good now here's something I'd

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like to compliment you guys you've

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lasted a long time here at lius Media

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Group being on Microsoft and Samsung's

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payroll respectively you guys what okay

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no you know what they are right they're

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right the webcam is actually a standout

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feature however I want to change the

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topic a little bit this is 2024 we got

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to talk about

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AI we love AI does it make me a boomer

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that I completely forgot about the

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co-pilot button except for the one time

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I pressed it by accident wa really I'm

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actually a big fan of co-pilot and just

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like chat ch BT like llms in general and

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I like how accessible it was to you know

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just one click button I can just look it

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up it's way more convenient than open my

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browser typing in chat GPT you kids know

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about bookmarks right do you know about

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doing up more than half of the buttons

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on your shirt it's it's it's a style

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it's

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a uh he knows style I know

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style and my Footwear is cringe my

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Footwear

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is Yo okay well you guys vote vote in

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the comments leave a like for mine and

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leave a comment for Samy's subscribe to

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Flo plane if you just want

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Runners and I do use chat GPD sometimes

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just to help with polishing my wordings

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and and just general research because

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ghou sucks we have a whole video about

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that I used co-pilot a couple times when

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I accidentally tried to lock my laptop

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went like

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that I just want to mentioned before

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people think I completely hate this

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laptop I think the like the physical

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appearance of the laptop was great great

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like you said the keyboard's great you

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know the webcam is great the mic's great

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it's extremely light i l the Samsung

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laptop with my personal heavy laptop and

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it was so light and thin I didn't notice

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a weight difference in my backpack nor

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did I feel like I had any space issues

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the fan also I don't know if you guys

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have any comments about it but mine was

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so quiet I totally forgot to comment

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about it because I didn't notice it once

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it's just that like quiet and I feel

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like you know if you're in like a

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lecture I feel like you always you

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always hear one two people that have

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like the whole time right like their

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their alien wear and that's especially

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true if they're trying to actually like

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record anything like especially with

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video like man I don't know what it is

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every Windows laptop I've ever owned all

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I got to do is get on a teams

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call it sounds like it's trying to take

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off from the desk I mean I don't blame

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it those calls are boring anyway what

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are we feeling overall guys I've had a

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great time with mine only running into a

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major issue at day 29 out of 30 that's

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pretty darn good I love it I don't think

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I'm going back to x86 I'm not sure that

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I will for now I don't feel like this

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can be your primary computer maybe not

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even your own laptop but personally I

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would highly recommend this as a

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secondary computer or tertiary by that

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point since you've got a desktop and a

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laptop already and this is just your

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Mobility focused computer but that's

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fair enough depending on what you're

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doing now one thing to remember is that

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AMD just released a lineup of CPU that

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is much more competitive battery

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LifeWise but they aren't competitive

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pricewise these come in at a lower cost

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than AMD and presumably Intel's upcoming

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latest gen mobile CPUs meaning that you

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can't really compare them directly like

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maybe by going Qualcomm you give up some

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program compatibility but you get more

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RAM or you get a better screen which

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could make things even more compelling

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if you can actually work on it though

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well yeah that that is a major issue and

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I think we're in agreement then Qualcomm

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Snapdragon X laptops excellent if

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everything you do is in a browser or if

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you already have another computer for

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the work that you need to do on another

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