Why Revolutions Fail
Summary
TLDRThis video script explores the complex dilemmas faced by revolutions, particularly focusing on the aftermath of overthrowing a dictatorship. It discusses the challenges of maintaining unity among diverse factions, the role of the military, and the influence of international powers. The script uses Egypt's 2011 revolution as a case study, highlighting the difficulties of transitioning from a state of unrest to a stable, democratic society. It also touches on the potential for counter-revolutions, the impact of international support, and the importance of effective implementation of revolutionary goals.
Takeaways
- 🏆 Revolutions are complex and often start with a delicate balance of factors, requiring careful nurturing to succeed.
- 🔄 Ideological disagreements can quickly fracture unity among revolutionaries, leading to infighting and potential failure of the revolution.
- 🤝 Elite factions may join a revolution for their own gain, which can lead to conflicts of interest and counter-revolutionary actions.
- 🕊️ Post-revolutionary periods require faith in new institutions, but if people believe they cannot achieve their goals through these systems, they may reject them.
- 💡 The success of a revolution is not just about overthrowing a dictator; it's also about the subsequent governance and meeting the promises made to the people.
- 🌐 International support can be crucial for a revolution's survival, but it often comes with strings attached, potentially undermining the revolution's goals.
- 🛑 Implementation of revolutionary goals can be challenging due to logistical, infrastructural, and bureaucratic hurdles.
- 🔄 The transition from revolutionary fervor to stable governance can lead to disillusionment if the new regime fails to deliver on its promises.
- 🏛️ Historical perspectives on past regimes can influence current attitudes towards revolution, with some people idealizing the past despite its flaws.
- 🌍 The global political landscape can significantly impact a revolution's trajectory, with external forces sometimes using revolutions to serve their interests.
Q & A
What dilemma did Egypt face in 2011 after overthrowing dictator Hosni Mubarak?
-Egypt faced the dilemma of managing ideological disagreements among various factions such as labor unions, secular activists, military factions, and the Muslim Brotherhood, which led to internal conflicts and power struggles after Mubarak's resignation.
What is referred to as the 'three eyes' of a revolution?
-The 'three eyes' of a revolution refer to infighting, international support, and implementation. These factors can significantly impact the success and stability of a post-revolutionary society.
Why did the elections in Egypt after Mubarak's resignation lead to chaos?
-The elections led to chaos because the Islamist Muslim Brotherhood won, causing clashes between leftwing labor unions, conservatives, secularists, and Islamists, and ultimately resulting in the military-backed candidate taking power in 2014.
How did the ideological disagreements contribute to the failure of the Egyptian revolution?
-Ideological disagreements among the revolutionary masses led to a lack of unity and a halt in the push for change, allowing existing elites, particularly the military, to become the biggest obstacle to change.
What role did international support play in the Arab Spring revolutions, and what were the consequences?
-International support played a crucial role in the Arab Spring revolutions by providing money, people, and aid. However, this support often came with demands for trade guarantees and access to resources, which could undermine the revolution's autonomy and lead to a loss of momentum.
What is the 'implementation gap' in the context of a revolution?
-The 'implementation gap' refers to the difference between the aims of a revolution and the practical problems that arise during the implementation of those aims. This gap can lead to disillusionment and instability if the revolution fails to deliver on its promises.
Why do some revolutions devolve into dictatorships rather than democracies?
-Revolutions may devolve into dictatorships because democracies require a robust and sophisticated bureaucracy to function effectively. In the absence of such infrastructure, military rule, which is cheaper and logistically simpler, often rises out of pre-existing structures.
How did the Soviet Union's dissolution affect the perception of the USSR among Russians?
-Despite the USSR's autocratic nature and human rights abuses, a significant percentage of Russians in 2019 felt that the Soviet Union took care of ordinary people and regretted its dissolution, possibly due to a positive view of the past regime or the implementation gap post-dissolution.
What challenges do post-revolutionary societies face in terms of dealing with the past regime's supporters and beneficiaries?
-Post-revolutionary societies struggle with how to handle the supporters and beneficiaries of the past regime, balancing the desire for justice and revenge with the need for stability and the potential for counter-revolutionary sentiment.
Why might people idealize the past, even when it includes autocratic regimes with poor human rights records?
-People might idealize the past because every regime is good for someone, and they may not see or care about the negative aspects experienced by others. Their identity may be wrapped up in a narrative that they want to view positively.
What are some of the common pitfalls that a revolution might encounter after overthrowing a dictator?
-Common pitfalls include internal divisions among allies, lack of trust in the military, economic instability, the rise of extremist factions, and the struggle to fulfill promises of jobs, equality, human rights, and democracy.
Outlines
😣 Dilemma of Post-Revolutionary Governance
This paragraph discusses the complex situation a new regime faces after overthrowing a dictatorship, as seen in Egypt's 2011 revolution. It highlights the challenges of fulfilling promises of jobs, equality, human rights, and democracy. The military's ambiguous role and the dilemma of trusting extremist radicals are underscored. The paragraph also touches on the economic survival of the new regime amidst international interests in the country's resources. It concludes with a plug for the speaker's writing and world-building books, which offer in-depth discussions on such topics.
🌪️ The Dynamics of Revolutions and Their Aftermath
The paragraph delves into the intricacies of revolutions, using the example of Egypt post-Mubarak. It outlines the 'three eyes' of revolution—internal conflict, international support, and implementation—as critical factors. The summary details the ideological clashes between various factions, the military's power grab, and the struggle to establish a new governance system. It also discusses the societal divisions that can emerge and the potential for democratic backsliding, as seen in Egypt's experience. The paragraph emphasizes the importance of unity among revolutionary masses and the challenges posed by ideological disagreements.
🛡️ The Role of Elites and International Forces in Revolutions
This section examines the motivations and actions of elites and international actors during and after revolutions. It discusses how elites may join revolutions for personal gain and how their interests can diverge from the revolutionary goals, potentially leading to counter-revolutions or power struggles. The paragraph also addresses the impact of international support, which can be conditional and sometimes used to manipulate new regimes, as illustrated by examples from the Cold War and recent history. The summary points out the vulnerability of revolutions to external influences and internal power dynamics.
🏗️ The Challenges of Implementing Revolutionary Change
The paragraph focuses on the difficulties of translating revolutionary goals into tangible policies and societal changes. Using the example of Mao's China and its economic policies, it highlights the 'implementation gap' where ambitious plans fail due to logistical, technological, and bureaucratic challenges. The summary discusses the potential for corruption, the complexity of reorganizing society, and the pitfalls of relying on hard power or military rule. It also touches on the tendency for revolutions to devolve into dictatorships due to the simplicity of establishing authoritarian rule over democratic systems.
🔄 The Complexities of Post-Revolutionary Society
This section explores the complexities of society following a revolution, including the struggle to meet the promises of better living standards and the potential for economic decline. It discusses how people may idealize past regimes due to various factors, such as personal benefits or a perception of failure in the new system. The paragraph also addresses the potential for societal divisions to worsen and for radical ideologies to take root in the vacuum left by a revolution. The summary emphasizes the importance of understanding the nuances of post-revolutionary societies and the challenges they face.
🏛️ Reflections on Revolutions and Their Impact
The final paragraph offers a summary of the key points discussed in the script, focusing on the internal and external challenges revolutions face. It emphasizes the potential for ideological disagreements, elite conflicts, and the manipulative role of international forces. The summary also touches on the difficulties of implementation and the complexities of post-revolutionary society, concluding with a call to action for viewers to support the speaker's work through book purchases or Patreon.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Revolution
💡Dictatorship
💡Infighting
💡International Influence
💡Economic Instability
💡Democracy
💡Human Rights
💡Elites
💡Counterrevolution
💡Implementation Gap
💡Ideological Disagreement
Highlights
The dilemma of what to do after overthrowing a dictatorship, as exemplified by Egypt's situation post-Mubarak.
The importance of unity among revolutionaries and the challenges posed by ideological disagreements.
The role of the military in post-revolutionary scenarios and the potential for betrayal or support.
The complexities of balancing the needs of various factions, including radicals and international powers, in a new regime.
The impact of infighting on the success of a revolution, as seen in Egypt's struggle between secular and Islamist factions.
The challenges of transitioning from a revolutionary state to a stable democracy or another form of governance.
The potential for democratic backsliding and the failure to achieve revolutionary aims due to elite infighting.
The role of extremist ideologies in revolutions and the potential for them to derail the original goals of the revolution.
The importance of public faith in institutions and the political system for a successful transition post-revolution.
The potential for democratically elected leaders to slide into dictatorship and the dangers of unchecked power.
The complexities of dealing with factions seeking revenge and the ethical dilemmas of post-revolutionary justice.
The symbolism and challenges of post-revolutionary governance as depicted in The Hunger Games.
The influence of international support on the success or failure of a revolution, with examples from the Cold War.
The potential for international interests to exploit revolutions for access to resources, as seen in Libya's case.
The difficulties of implementing revolutionary aims and the gap between aspirations and practical realities.
The tendency for revolutions to devolve into dictatorships due to the complexities of establishing democracies.
The exploration of post-revolutionary challenges in literature, such as in Brown's Red Rising series.
The psychological impact of revolutions on the populace and the tendency to idealize past regimes.
The summary of key challenges in post-revolutionary scenarios, including ideological conflict and elite motivations.
Transcripts
revolutions face a choice imagine you're
from a small economically unstable
country without much International
influence and after weeks of protests
and violent clashes with the state with
hundreds of people lifted in the streets
you've just overthrown a brutal
dictatorship which has held power for
decades you've promised the people jobs
equality human rights democracy and now
you've got to deliver the question is
what next the military swears to well
quote protect the revolution but you
don't know how much you can trust them
and even though you worked with some
extremist radicals to overthrow the
dictator can you really rely on them now
they want some pretty bad stuff your new
regime needs money to survive and all of
these other rich countries are
scrambling eyeing up your oil reserves
breaking ties with any of these people
might see the death of the Revolution
but keeping them around might destroy it
too this was the exact dilemma Egypt
faced in 2011 after alting dictator hny
Mubarak after three decades of power
part of the Arab Spring this is the
revolution's
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video part one a tender flame in the
words of plutar Heavens be revolutions
are a tnder flame there a storm of
complex factors all coming together at
once you can watch my other video about
that on the dictators dma they need to
be nurtured with a little kindling and
warmth and they're so easily snuffed out
and that's because of what we can call
the three eyes infighting international
support and implementation after over
dictator hosne Mubarak Egypt found
itself at a Crossroads the revolution
had been led by labor unions secular
activists military factions in the
Muslim Brotherhood and while they all
agreed that Mubarak needed to go down
ideological disagreements showed the
cracks between them the moment the
Revolution was won see officially mub
passed on power to the Supreme Council
of the Egyptian Armed Forces who went on
to dissolve parliament and then pinky
promised definitely crossed my fingers
HHO to die SW or that they would only
hold on to power until things calm down
but then suddenly it's deao martial law
and when the Constitutional assembly is
finally allowed together the secular
politicians clash with the growing
islamist faction who disagree on whether
this new state should be based on
liberal human rights or the Quran and
the Armed Forces well they want to
enshrine themselves as the ultimate
executive Authority in the Constitution
and when the elections are finally
allowed to take place it's the islamist
Muslim Brotherhood who win with their
president Muhammad Mory taking power
needless to say chaos the leftwing labor
unions clash with conservatives the
secular with the Islamic the Christians
with the Muslims and Mory only last a
couple of years before being replaced by
the Army's presidential candidate in
2014 despite promising freedom of
expression and interplace brutality a
stable democracy and better working
conditions very few of these are at all
realized because of elite infighting and
there's been Democratic backsliding for
some years now even though it's in a
better place than it was before it's
still fallen short of a lot of those
aims the revolution did not ultimately
succeed because the Revolutionary masses
failed to keep United and continue their
push for change after mb's resignation
existing Elites particularly the
military have become the biggest
obstacle to change ideological
disagreement is especially poisonous for
revolutions given revolutions tend to
attract people of more radical
ideologies be it political extremism
religious extremism or ethnic EX
extremis M Stalin used the power
struggle between bolik leaders over
smaller and smaller ideological issues
to throttle the Revolution and
marginalize his competition till he
ended up with autocratic power in a
transition period like Revolution people
need to have faith in the institutions
and political system like democracy that
they're supposedly meant to hand over
power to but if they don't think that
they can achieve their aims what they
revolted to do through that new system
even something like democracy
why would they give up power to it you
got to remember that it's very easy for
a democratically elected leader to slide
into becoming a dictator disagreements
breeds gridlock gridlock breeds collapse
and collapse breeds chaos and War and
we're back on that cycle half measures
and civil unrest once more and often old
social religious and ethnic tensions are
going to Bubble to the surface again
revolutions are important forces in
society forcing change in static often
terrible systems but beating the
dictator is only the start and they've
got a long way to go before they're
really successful I know it's a ya book
but I've always admired how The Hunger
Games doesn't shy away from those
post-revolution difficulties
symbolically perhaps but it does
acknowledge them president coin assures
the world she will pinky promise cross
my fingers hope to die only take power
in her interim government until
democratic transition is possible Right
the revolution though turns on itself
pretty godamn quickly you know canis
ends up having to kill her people
espouse these values but when they want
to do stuff things like democracy can
suddenly become an obstacle I've said it
before and I'll say it again democracy
simply doesn't work but more than that
how do you deal with the significant
faction of people who are going to want
revenge on those who were in power and
not just the politicians and dictator
but the civilians aligned with them like
the Egyptian revolution wanted a public
trial for hosne Mubarak but what about
his supporters and the districts
publicly executed snow but coin wanted
to go further she wanted to hold a new
Hunger Games for the capital's children
there's revenge in that the people who
benefited from and perhaps supported
Snow's regime how far did the
punishments and trials go the
representatives their families the
people who profited from it the children
who happened to be benefiting if
revolutions are down ethnic lines then
they'll often end up targeting the
people who happen to be the same
demographic as those who were in power
even though they may not be directly
responsible but it's complicated because
they benefited from it and it's not
necessarily right for them to keep what
they have if it's down class lines well
let's just say the phrase eat the rich
is there for a reason so when you're
writing Revolution you're going to want
to figure out where these cracks start
to appear and importantly you're going
to have to figure out kind of one of the
only three ways that they deal with it
do they one compromise two are they
ousted or three do those aims get a che
counter revolutions like in 2014 ating
Mory are incredibly common you know
these factions turn on each other in the
struggle over who gets to decide what
this new world will look like well the
Hunger Games yeah it's not the most
complicated exploration of these issues
it does at least acknowledge them and
how they can threaten revolutionary aims
easily slipping into an oppressive cycle
this is kind of what happened with
Stalin as well despite the revolution's
aspirations of a democratic liberal
socialist republic ideologic iCal
disagreements LED Stalin to slowly
concentrate power in himself using the
chaos of the post-revolution world to
eliminate competition and undermine the
role of the Soviets till it was just him
the ideological disagreement prevented
the perhaps more popular other factions
from working against him and his rule
was a simpler way out of the chaos and
while people in Russia rightly wanted to
revenge against the uber wealthy Stalin
also used that desire to persecute
demographics he wanted marginalized
often against the aims of Lenin's
original reevolution
but it's not just ideological
disagreement the elite and Powerful will
often join a revolution in hopes of
gaining something else power or money or
position to stay within the circles of
power when they know it's coming and the
Egyptian Military can be read this way
Egyptian history is a record of the army
guarding the interests of the secular
State and their own Elite position in
the system of power the Supreme Council
of the Armed Forces did not intend to be
sidelined either nor did it want to lose
its self- ascribed role as the guarantor
of constitutional legitimacy and
security and be stripped of its economic
privileges in other words the military
could see the writing was on the wall
for hos Mubarak and wanted to ensure
that they weren't excluded from the
circles of power and so Revolution and
we can see this by the way in George AR
Martin's A Song Of Ice And Fire series
tywan Lannister doesn't revolt against
the manad king out of a sense of
morality or justice but because he's
been alienated from the circles of
tararan power and wants to get in on
Robert's new regime he knew that if he
didn't help then there was no chance of
it and taking King's Landing put him in
a powerful position to do so when the
Soviet Union fell Russian oligarchs saw
a huge opportunity to seize State assets
and make a ton of money and that's a
huge motivator you know they don't ever
care for pesky things like human rights
or the vision of the Revolution it's
about getting a better position from a
world falling apart chaos is a ladder
and the question is these Elites the
powerful the rich what happens when they
don't get what they want how does the
revolution survive without their support
without their money without their men
without their resources so don't just
think about how Elites might help the
revolution happen but where their
interests might diverge and what that
point of tension how you know how is
that resolved because it can lead to a
counterrevolution or an impotent
government or another civil war one
detail I really like and I think it's
the Mandalorian is that After the
Revolution after the evil empire is
overthrown we get all these evil
scientists and soldiers who have
committed atrocities what do you mean to
do with them well supposedly they're
sent to be rehabilitated and taught the
error of their ways but in reality the
rich and Powerful basically tell them in
secret oh we're just happy to have you
on our side you know on the side of the
Republic rather than it being about
Justice like the revolution claim they
instead bring them in make money off
them put them in positions of power and
use those skills again just from a
slightly different angle they
superficially supported the revolution
but spoil its aims when it comes down to
the Brass tax they don't care about
Justice Just money and power part two
International puppeteers many
revolutions live or die on International
support money people aid from other
countries and all too often this comes
in return for trade guarantees access to
Resort forces for their own security
interests I.E the entire cold war in
Korea Vietnam Angola Afghanistan
Nicaragua mosm Ethiopia Lebanon and a
myriad across South America over and
over Western Powers have stifled
communist revolutions with sanctions and
blockades and sabotage preventing them
from integrating with the International
Community I'm not saying we shouldn't
sanction North Korea but it is what has
been happening for decades and the
United States has been strangling Cuba
for a long time in the case of North
Korea their economy was intimately
reliant on aid from the Soviet Union or
after it fell now China see revolutions
put countries in really vulnerable
positions they're piss poor disorganized
they don't have the institutions or
Logistics that the other regime might
have had and they're struggling not to
slip back into chaos and in that
environment other countries come looking
for concessions and guarantees following
Libya's Revolution at the same time
during the Arab Spring France sent oil
companies to secure oil reserves that
they could not get to undera Gaddafi
French foreign minister at the time Ela
jup even said it was quote fear and
logical that those who supported the
revolution would get access to its oil
pressing their claim without the support
or not giving in to sometimes exorbitant
demands these revolutions might be left
to die before they're even given a
chance to see change but it also comes
across as giving up a lot of autonomy
and future investment and that does not
reflect well on the government
especially if they perhaps promised to
nationalize assets
sometimes revolutionary support and
weapons and Manpower and money is to
disrupt something like a nuclear program
or a new industry in the area or to
Simply depose a regime they consider
unfriendly like what happened during the
Cold War once that objective is achieved
then they might pull that Manpower and
money and Munitions and then the
revolution is left dead in the water
killing any momentum the revolution has
towards its goals and taking away any
security buffer that allows old powers
and squabbles to sweep back in and Chaos
part three implementation it's 1949 Ma
has taken Beijing and proclaimed the
People's Republic of China we know now
today and is pursuing new communist
economic policies focusing on peasant
lead collectivized farms and
decentralized communes to boost the
economy but it fails utterly these new
policies prove more difficult to
implement than he ever thought China
doesn't have the logistics to
reorganized people and resources on this
scale it doesn't yield what Ma thought
it would China lacks the technology to
really make it work but it can't afford
it because it's been at War for so long
and Ma refuses as an ideologue to let it
go and there's corruption at every level
down the command chain making it
difficult to know just what's happening
anyway in the ironically named Great
Leap Ford millions of people starve to
death in one of the largest man-made
famines in history people who make for
good revolutionaries for good generals
do not necessarily make for good
peacetime leaders so when World building
look for what we're going to call the
implementation gap between the aims of
the Revolution and the problems they may
not have considered do you have the tax
money to do what you want the votes the
bureaucracy the logistical and
infrastructure support you can promise
to raise the minimum wage but what does
that mean when your country is suddenly
struck with hyperinflation or you want
to raise taxes but the rich people can
just bribe their way out of that and the
judicial system that you're left with is
too fractured to deal with that in the
first place reorganizing Society is hard
and that's why a lot of revolutions will
try to do something big and ambitious
and aspirational and they will end up
doing it pretty poorly and of course
that just means that people look at the
Revolution and feel like it kind of
failed them like you can't do what you
promised if there's a massive gap
between the aims and implementation then
it can lead to counterrevolution and
throw the state into chaos once more
this is also something that's very
difficult for like left-wing Revolutions
in particular like a right-wing
Revolution you can sell off State assets
easy that's that destroying the state un
you know undoing what is is a lot easier
building up something new logistically
is very complicated especially if it
hasn't been tempted in the place before
this is also why there's a tendency for
revolutions to devolve into
dictatorships rather than democracies
democracies are complicated systems they
require a robust and sophisticated
bureaucracy to work I love democracy if
you don't have that you risk poisoning
democracy from the start military rule
on the other hand is cheaper and
logistically easier and often Rises out
of pre-existing structures you've
already got and the more you rely on
hard power the more entrenched those
people and that way of doing things
becomes a newborn Revolution still needs
to keep the people who keep them in
power happy and that can lead to some
pretty toxic relationships with the
military with the church with oligarchs
with the wealthy with other countries
even the big difference is that stable
democratic governments are self-
sustaining they're self-sufficient they
don't need to rely on oligarchs or the
like to keep them going at least you'd
hope so and you can actually say the
same of like a stable monarchy or
whatever but the point is how do you
achieve what you set out to do when
you're simultaneously having to
privilege this other group P Brown's Red
Rising series is a fantastic exploration
of all this like it has the main
character daro lead a revolution against
the oppressive system but then he finds
himself struggling with the complexities
of governance you know over and over his
mistakes make things worse with
different factions vying for power
leading to Revolution and counter
Revolution but Brown makes a point with
all of this dictatorships are less
complex systems you know it's easier for
them to rise out of a revolution than
democracy democracies need an informed
and engaged populace and if you corrupt
that they fall apart Darrow finds
himself in conflict with the Senate an
allegedly Democratic body but clearly a
flawed one and you want to know a weird
thing in 2019 a poll found 59% of
Russians felt the Soviet Union quote
took care of ordinary people and 66%
regretted its dissolution in 2012 38% of
Armenians said their country quote would
always need a leader like Joseph Stalin
and I spoke about this in previous
videos but people will IDE idealized the
past even autocratic undemocratic states
with a terrible record of Human Rights
abusers I mean we see this today with
people like idealizing the 1950s America
period which was an awful period for you
know women and people of color this is
because every regime is good for someone
and often more than you think it's no
surprise that Russians are more likely
to think Fally of the USSR when it was a
system which privileged Russian culture
language and people it's it's easy to
look back funly when you don't see or
just don't care about the terrible
things that other people or other
cultures had to endure at that time we
come up with ways to justify it we have
a very different narrative and often
times our identity you know is wrapped
up in that narrative and so we we want
to think positively of it but all of
this affects our relationship with the
past regime we're more likely to give it
the benefit of the doubt and it effects
how we see this revolution because we
see all the things that it's tearing
down and not just the new things that
it's building and hoping to do however
this positive view of past regimes also
comes from the implementation Gap
post-soviet countries often struggled in
the wake of the revolutions and the
ussr's dissolution the Soviet Union I
thought you guys broke up yes that's
what we wanted you to
think the transition to a market economy
often meant gutting social services and
a downtune economically for a time
especially when it came to pension
systems see the USSR had a sophisticated
and very generous pension system that
was a lot higher and often a lot better
than what we see today so people who
benefited from or worked for that were
very attached to it and and reasonably
so right these new Democratic liberal
governments promised better living
standards but weren't always able to
deliver and for a lot of people it's
kind of like well how good is it really
in some pretty awful cases some radical
groups will start start to blame this
decline of their quality of life on
women or minorities and that can lead to
some pretty dangerous ideologies I.E
fascism but also I want to point out
that I know it's easy for us sitting
here in our modern liberal Democratic
wealthy societies to sit here and
pontificate about the virtues of freedom
of speech and democracy and religion and
stuff but it's important to note that
like the vast majority of people around
the world just want to get by they want
food on the table and to feel safe and
when you think about why people don't
always just Revolt for this stuff it's
it's because of that they value
stability and revolutions are inherently
unstable things people kind of identify
with systems which they feel are just
kind of okay to them you know but you
can leverage all of these symtoms to
create some really interesting
relationships in your world building you
know the the community who believed in
the revolution and then find themselves
worse off the people who kind of were
fine with the autocratic regime but now
find themselves kind of again destroyed
and reminiscing about the past the
people who find themselves way better
off than before the people who didn't
used to clash but now because of the
Revolution are brought into conflict
with each other and also we've talked in
this video about revolutions as kind of
forces for positive change but that is
not always true military juns and coups
and revolutions are sometimes for very
bad oppressive ideology
it's easy for radical ideas to get
slipped in with more reasonable
justifications we see this a lot with
Islamic extremism mixed in with
anti-colonial discourse revolutions are
complicated and people are going to have
an interesting time internalizing the
Now versus the before and if you are
going for a negative Revolution how do
people think about the past how do they
memorialize it you know how do they feel
about it cuz I think Margaret Edwards
the handmaid's tale is just a brilliant
example of this and forgive the TV show
cover I'm so sorry I know this crime
cannot be forgiven Luke and I used to
walk together sometimes along these
streets we used to talk about buying a
house like one of these an old big house
fixing it up we would have a garden
swings for the children we would have
children although we knew it wasn't too
likely if we could ever afford it it was
something to talk about a game for
Sundays such Freedom now seems almost
weightless so you've just overthrown a
brutal dictator things I on the up but
you have no money you're not quite sure
who you can trust to actually enforce
your reforms and cracks are starting to
appear with your allies you try to start
new elections but local governments are
corrupt and only take orders from one of
the other factions your allies are
trying to seize property from the rich
but some of the wealthy on your side are
protesting the people who supplied your
weapons who do you side with you've
promised people jobs but you don't have
the money to pay them and now riots are
starting up and you have to send in
forces to keep the peace International
delegations are promising to support you
in exchange for your oil reserves but
you know it'll mean ousting your allies
and handing over resources you promised
you wouldn't before only if you don't
take power now it'll mean Bloodshed down
the line and suddenly you look
around and you have become the very
thing you swore to
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revolutionary summary one ideological
disagreement can poison the
post-revolution world be it moderates
versus radicals extremist ideologies old
ethnic or sociological tensions or in
Elite infighting two Elites often Revolt
for very different reasons bringing them
into conflict with other factions in the
post-revolution world World
International support may help a
revolution but it's also often used as a
tool of disruption or coercion and
without it in the post-revolution world
the revolution may be dead in the water
sanctions or Co blockades May prevent a
new Society from succeeding
revolutionaries do not necessarily make
for good peacetime leaders some people
will idealize the past regime be it
because it benefited them because
implementation issues create the
impression of a failed Revolution or
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