John 6:51-58 Commentary by Dr. Tom Boomershine

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17 Dec 201407:59

Summary

TLDRThe script delves into the provocative discourse of Jesus, where he speaks of giving his flesh to eat, not symbolically but literally, emphasizing the doctrine of transubstantiation. It explores the intimacy of the relationship between Jesus and believers, conveyed through the metaphor of eating his flesh and drinking his blood. This relationship is described as one of ongoing love and trust, leading to spiritual and eternal life. The discourse concludes with Jesus' passion prophecy, offering his life for the world, inviting listeners to a radical closeness with God, contrasting the emotional distance often found in religious communities.

Takeaways

  • 🤔 The script discusses a provocative question from the biblical tradition about Jesus' words on eating his flesh and drinking his blood, suggesting a deeper meaning beyond literal interpretation.
  • 🍞 The doctrine of transubstantiation is mentioned as an attempt to interpret these words, suggesting that the bread and wine in the Eucharist become the body and blood of Jesus in substance.
  • 🔍 The discourse emphasizes relationship over substance, indicating that Jesus' words are about the intimate relationship believers have with him through the act of eating the bread.
  • 💞 The term 'abide' signifies the ongoing intimate relationship of love and trust between Jesus and believers, highlighting the importance of spiritual oneness.
  • 🌟 Spiritual life and eternal life are found in the intimacy of this relationship with God, as described by Jesus in the Bread Discourse.
  • 📜 The Greek word 'meno' is used to convey the idea of remaining in an intimate relationship, suggesting a deep connection and togetherness with Jesus.
  • 🙏 The discourse is a call to believers to enter and remain in the intimacy of the relationship with Jesus, which is central to their spiritual journey.
  • ⚔️ The use of radically realistic language serves to break through the cultural sense of alienation and separation from God, offering a close and intimate presence instead.
  • 🏛 The script contrasts the emotional distance often found in religious communities with the intimate closeness that the discourse invites.
  • 🕊️ The climax of the discourse is a passion prophecy, where Jesus gives his flesh for the life of the world, symbolizing his sacrifice for the sake of believers.
  • 🌐 The invitation to closeness in relationship with God is presented as radically different from what was the norm in the ancient world and is often still the case today.

Q & A

  • What is the provocative question and statement that begins the bread discourse in the script?

    -The provocative question and statement that begins the bread discourse is 'How can this man give us his flesh to eat?' which introduces a set of statements that have been the subject of intense theological debate and interpretation.

  • What is the doctrine of transubstantiation as mentioned in the script?

    -The doctrine of transubstantiation is a theological explanation that suggests during the Eucharist, the bread and wine are transformed into the actual body and blood of Jesus Christ, not just symbolically but in their substance.

  • How does the script interpret the literalism of Jesus' words about eating his flesh and drinking his blood?

    -The script interprets the literalism of Jesus' words as a metaphor for an intimate relationship with God, rather than a literal consumption of physical flesh and blood.

  • What is the main focus of the bread discourse according to the script?

    -The main focus of the bread discourse, as per the script, is the intimacy of the relationship between Jesus and those who believe in him, rather than the substance of the bread and wine.

  • What is the significance of the term 'abide' in the context of the bread discourse?

    -The term 'abide' signifies an ongoing intimate relationship of love and trust between the believer and Jesus, indicating a state of remaining and staying connected spiritually.

  • How does the script describe the relationship of spiritual identity mentioned by Jesus?

    -The script describes the relationship of spiritual identity as one of intimacy, where believers become one with Jesus through the metaphor of eating his flesh and drinking his blood, leading to eternal life.

  • What is the passion prophecy referred to in the script?

    -The passion prophecy is Jesus' statement that he will give his flesh for the life of the world, signifying his impending death and sacrifice for the sake of humanity.

  • How does the script suggest that Jesus' words were meant to break through cultural norms?

    -The script suggests that Jesus' radically realistic language was intended to overcome the sense of alienation and separation from God present in the culture of his time, offering an intimate and close relationship instead.

  • What is the contrast the script draws between the religious communities of the ancient world and the message of the bread discourse?

    -The script contrasts the often emotionally distant nature of many religious communities in the ancient world with the message of the bread discourse, which invites believers into a closeness and intimacy with God that is radically different.

  • What is the climax of the bread discourse as described in the script?

    -The climax of the bread discourse is Jesus' invitation to his listeners to enter into an intimate relationship with him and to remain in that relationship, symbolized by the act of eating the bread and drinking the wine.

  • How does the script relate the message of the bread discourse to the experience of being part of a religious community today?

    -The script relates the message by highlighting the need for a close and intimate relationship with God, which is often lacking in many religious communities even today, and invites believers to seek that depth of connection.

Outlines

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🍞 The Intimacy of Communion

This paragraph delves into the provocative discourse of Jesus' words regarding the consumption of his flesh and blood, as a metaphor for a deep spiritual relationship. It challenges the traditional doctrine of transubstantiation, suggesting that the literal interpretation of Jesus' words is not about the physical transformation of bread and wine but about the intimate connection believers have with Jesus. The paragraph emphasizes the ongoing, intimate relationship of love and trust ('abide') between Jesus and believers, highlighting the spiritual life and eternal life found in this union. It concludes by explaining that this metaphor of eating flesh and drinking blood symbolizes oneness and spiritual identity in Christ, leading to eternal life.

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🕊️ The Passion Prophecy and the Invitation to Intimacy

The second paragraph continues the theme of intimacy, focusing on Jesus' passion prophecy where he declares his intention to give his flesh for the life of the world, signifying his sacrificial death. This act is portrayed as the climax of the discourse, calling for his listeners to enter into and maintain an intimate relationship with him. The use of realistic language serves to counter cultural alienation and separation from God, offering instead a close, personal relationship. The paragraph contrasts typical religious experiences, which can be emotionally distant, with the proposed closeness in the religious community. It concludes with an invitation to a radical form of relationship with God, as presented by Jesus in the discourse, which is a stark departure from the norms of both the ancient world and contemporary religious practices.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Bread Discourse

The 'Bread Discourse' refers to a section of the biblical narrative where Jesus uses the metaphor of bread to explain the spiritual nourishment and relationship with God. In the video, the discourse is described as provocative and leading to a deeper understanding of the relationship between Jesus and his followers, illustrating the intimacy of spiritual connection through the metaphor of eating his flesh and drinking his blood.

💡Transubstantiation

Transubstantiation is a theological doctrine that asserts the transformation of the bread and wine into the body and blood of Christ during the Eucharist. The video discusses this concept as an interpretation of Jesus' words, suggesting that the church in the medieval period used this doctrine to provide a literal understanding of the metaphorical language used by Jesus.

💡Intimacy

Intimacy, in the context of the video, signifies a close, personal, and spiritual connection. It is central to the theme of the Bread Discourse, where Jesus describes the deep relationship believers can have with him, which is likened to eating his flesh and drinking his blood, symbolizing a profound spiritual oneness and ongoing relationship.

💡Spiritual Life

Spiritual life, as mentioned in the video, is the eternal and divine existence that believers can attain through their intimate relationship with God. It is depicted as the ultimate goal of the spiritual journey, where believers partake in the metaphorical bread and find everlasting life through their connection with Jesus.

💡Eucharist

The Eucharist is a Christian sacrament that involves the consumption of bread and wine, symbolizing the body and blood of Christ. In the video, the Eucharist is tied to the concept of transubstantiation and is the ritual through which believers partake in the spiritual life offered by Jesus.

💡Abide

The term 'abide' is used in the Greek text as 'meno', meaning to remain or stay in an ongoing intimate relationship. In the video, it is emphasized as a key aspect of the believer's relationship with Jesus, suggesting that by partaking in the Eucharist, believers remain in an intimate and everlasting spiritual connection.

💡Metaphor

A metaphor is a figure of speech used to express one thing in terms of another, suggesting a resemblance or analogy. In the video, the metaphor of eating Jesus' flesh and drinking his blood is used to describe the spiritual nourishment and the intimate relationship believers can have with God.

💡Oneness

Oneness, in the context of the video, refers to the spiritual unity or the state of being one with God. It is derived from the metaphorical act of eating the bread, which signifies believers becoming one body with Jesus through their intimate spiritual connection.

💡Prophecy

A prophecy is a message that is believed to foretell the future or reveal the will of a divine power. In the video, Jesus' words about giving his flesh for the life of the world are interpreted as a passion prophecy, indicating his sacrificial death for the sake of humanity and the establishment of an intimate relationship with God.

💡Religious Community

A religious community is a group of people who share the same religious beliefs and practices. The video discusses the emotional distance often found in religious communities and contrasts it with the intimate relationship that Jesus offers to his followers, emphasizing the unique closeness and togetherness in the spiritual journey.

💡Radical Language

Radical language refers to the use of strong, unconventional, or provocative terms to convey a message. In the video, the term is applied to describe the language used by John in the Bread Discourse, which is intentionally shocking to break through the cultural norms and to convey the deep intimacy and presence of God in the lives of believers.

Highlights

The bread discourse begins with a provocative question and statement, introducing a puzzling aspect of the biblical tradition.

Jesus' words in the discourse are highly realistic and literal, not symbolic, emphasizing 'eat my flesh and drink my blood'.

The discourse explores the meaning behind Jesus' statements, often interpreted as the doctrine of transubstantiation.

Transubstantiation is the medieval church's conclusion that bread and wine become the actual body and blood of Jesus in the Eucharist.

The literalism of Jesus' words became the basis for a philosophical description of the Eucharist.

The discourse emphasizes relationship over substance, focusing on the intimacy between Jesus and believers.

Jesus describes the climax of the relationship movement as an intimate connection with spiritual and eternal life.

The Greek word 'meno' conveys the ongoing intimate relationship of love and trust between Jesus and believers.

The metaphor of eating flesh and drinking blood symbolizes oneness and spiritual identity in the relationship with God.

Jesus invites listeners to enter into and remain in the intimate relationship for eternal spiritual life.

The discourse is a passion prophecy, with Jesus giving his flesh for the life of the world through his death.

Jesus' sacrifice is for those in relationship with him, whom he loves.

The climactic appeal is for listeners to enter into and abide in the intimate relationship with Jesus.

John uses radically realistic and potentially offensive language to break through the sense of alienation from God.

The discourse contrasts the emotional distance often found in religious communities with the intimate relationship offered by Jesus.

The invitation extends to experiencing a closeness of relationship radically different from the cultural norm.

Transcripts

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this section of the bread discourse

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begins with an incredibly provocative

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question

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and statement

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it is a puzzle

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that

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introduces one of the most provocative

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set of statements in the whole of the

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biblical tradition

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Jesus words

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explaining

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his answer to the question how can this

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man give us his flesh to eat

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are

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highly realistic

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he does not

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make

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these words symbolic

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rather

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it is

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that you eat my flesh and drink my blood

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now part of the question that underlies

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the puzzle of this

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discourse and of this particular section

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which is the

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which is what it leads up to

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is what does this actually mean

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generally

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these statements are taken as doctrinal

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descriptions of what has become the

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doctrine of transubstantiation

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that is that is a way of trying to

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interpret what Jesus means here

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the church in the medieval period

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concluded that in the Eucharist

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that the

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Bread and Wine became Jesus body and

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blood in their actual substance

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so that the literalism of this

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of these statements then became the

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basis for

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a philosophical description that was

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itself

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even more

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realistic and literal in its uh hearing

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of these words but the thing that

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becomes clear in the telling of the

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story

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is that this is not so much about

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substance as it is about relationship

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the bread discourse has what is in

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effect a kind of long decrescendo it's a

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long getting softer and softer and more

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and more intimate

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and this is the climax of that movement

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of relationship

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what Jesus is describing here is the

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intimacy of relationship that exists

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between himself and those who

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believe in him

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and who then

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eat the bread that he provides

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and

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the understanding of the bread

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that was given at the feeding of the

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five thousand

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is then made very explicit

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in terms of relationship

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the relationship is a relationship of

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intimacy

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and that in that intimacy

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people will find

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spiritual life they will find

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eternal life

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by being part of this intimate

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relationship with God the words are not

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them pronouncements

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so much as they are descriptions of

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intimacy

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so one of the key words in the middle of

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this is the word abide whoever eats my

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flesh will abide in me

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this word meno in Greek

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means to remain to stay

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to be in an ongoing

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intimate relationship of love and Trust

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you and me I and you I am them

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it is an intimacy of contact

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an intimacy of togetherness

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of literally being one body by being

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joined through eating

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flesh drinking blood that's the metaphor

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is Oneness

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and whoever eats this bread whoever

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enters into this relationship then

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this relationship of spiritual identity

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will live forever

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in that spirit

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that Spirit of love

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so

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what

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matters in the telling of this story is

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to communicate that intimacy

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that love

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and the climax of that

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of this discourse is

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Jesus

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saying that though that what he will

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give for the life of the world is his

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flesh

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this is a passion prophecy

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that what he will do for the life of the

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world is to die

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that he will literally give himself

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for the sake of the world

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for the sake of those who

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are in the world

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those who are in relationship with him

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Those whom he loves

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so what is happening

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in this climactic

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part of the discourse is an appeal

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from Jesus

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two his listeners

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to enter into that intimacy of

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relationship

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and

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to remain to stay to abide

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in that intimacy of connection

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so why would John use such a

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radically realistic

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language here that is so offensive

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one of the reasons may be

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that John is trying to break through

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the sense of alienation separation

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distance from God that was present in

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his culture

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these words

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are

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about God

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in Jesus being intimately present with

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everyone who believes

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not distant

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but close

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this is also true of

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religious experience

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terms of worship the scriptures

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the overall experience of being part of

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a religious community

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Many religious communities are

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emotionally distant

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they are not intimate close

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this discourse

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ends with an invitation to an a

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closeness of relationship

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that

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is

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radically different than what was the

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norm in the ancient world and also often

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most of the time today

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