Fr. Iannuzzi: No shortage of Catholics who are rebellious that don't follow what the Church teaches.
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses the importance of obedience within the Catholic Church, emphasizing the role of the magisterium and the potential for misunderstandings or disobedience. It features insights from Father Joseph Vusi on informed obedience, the hierarchy of obedience to conscience, God, and the Church, and the consequences of disobedience leading to diverse interpretations of Church teachings. The script also touches on the role of exorcism and the challenges faced by priests, using examples from Father Gabriele Amorth to illustrate the reality of demonic possession and the necessity of faith in performing exorcisms.
Takeaways
- 🤔 The importance of obedience within the Catholic Church is emphasized, with a call for members to either follow the rules or consider leaving if they cannot align with the teachings.
- 📜 The script discusses the concept of informed obedience, suggesting that while obedience is crucial, it should not lead to blindly following orders that are clearly against one's moral judgment.
- 🔗 It highlights the hierarchical structure of the Church, explaining that obedience should be aligned with one's conscience, divine revelation, and the teachings of the Church.
- 🙏 The video script touches on the challenges of obedience, including the potential for misunderstanding or misinterpretation of Church teachings, which can lead to different degrees of Catholic beliefs.
- 👎 It acknowledges the negative reactions, such as dislikes and unsubscribes, that videos promoting obedience and unity with the Church may receive.
- 🌟 The script references Father Joseph Vusi and Father Gabriele Amorth to convey messages about obedience, Church teachings, and the reality of spiritual warfare.
- 🗣️ It addresses the issue of people setting themselves up as interpreters of Church documents without proper credentials, which can lead to division and misunderstanding within the Church.
- 🤝 The video aims to educate and guide viewers towards walking side by side with the Church, emphasizing the importance of unity and understanding the Church's teachings.
- 🤔 The script explores the reasons behind the wide spectrum of Catholic beliefs, suggesting that disobedience and personal interpretation of Church teachings are significant factors.
- 👁️🗨️ It discusses the signs and symptoms of diabolic possession, as well as the role of exorcism and the importance of recognizing the authority and responsibility of the Church in such matters.
- 🔑 The final takeaway is a reflection on the nature of hell, suggesting that it is a place of profound solitude and regret, where individuals are consumed by their own torment and separation from others.
Q & A
What is the main issue discussed in the video script regarding the Catholic Church and its followers?
-The main issue discussed is the lack of obedience to the Church's teachings and the resulting division among its followers, with some believing they know better than the Church's authority and canon law.
What does the speaker suggest is the appropriate response to those who believe they know more than the Church's teachings?
-The speaker suggests that such individuals should either follow the rules laid down by the Catholic Church or be honest and leave if they cannot comply.
What does the video script imply about the consequences of disobedience to the Church's teachings?
-The script implies that disobedience can lead to a schism and a misunderstanding of the Church's teachings, causing people to stray from the faith.
What does the script say about the role of obedience in the development of saints?
-The script suggests that obedience is a foundational aspect of the development of saints, as they too had to navigate and mature through the concept of obedience to their superiors.
What is the concept of 'informed obedience' as discussed in the video script?
-Informed obedience refers to the understanding that obedience should be given within the bounds of reason and morality, not blindly following orders that could be harmful or evil.
How does the script differentiate between Divine teaching and Church teaching?
-Divine teaching is based on divine revelation found in scripture and tradition, while Church teaching includes governance, discipline, morals, and faith as interpreted and practiced by the Church hierarchy.
What is the significance of the conversation between Father Gabriele Amorth and a bishop regarding exorcism?
-The conversation highlights the reluctance of some priests to perform exorcisms due to fear or disbelief, and the importance of bishops taking responsibility when no priest is available to carry out this duty.
What are some of the signs that may indicate a person is under the influence of evil, according to the script?
-Signs include severe and unresponsive headaches, sudden inability to learn or concentrate, aversion to the sacred, strange or violent behavior, and physical symptoms like acute pains in the neck or stomach that defy medical explanation.
What does the script suggest about the relationship between different degrees of Catholic beliefs and obedience?
-The script suggests that disobedience is the main reason for the wide spectrum of beliefs within Catholicism, ranging from ultra-conservative to ultra-liberal, with many degrees in between.
What advice does Father Amorth give to the bishop who is unsure about how to start an exorcism?
-Father Amorth advises the bishop to start by reading the instructions in the ritual and reciting the prescribed prayers over the person who requested them, as this is the established starting point for exorcism.
How does the script describe the role of a priest in relation to preaching, hearing confessions, and performing exorcisms?
-The script describes the role of a priest as one who should have the courage to preach, hear confessions, and perform exorcisms when necessary, as these actions can cause greater spiritual impact and are essential duties of their ministry.
Outlines
😔 The Struggle with Obedience in the Catholic Church
This paragraph discusses the challenges faced by Catholics in adhering to the teachings and authority of the Church, particularly canon law and the magisterium. It emphasizes the importance of obedience and criticizes those who claim superior knowledge, suggesting they either follow the Church's rules or leave. The speaker introduces the topic of obedience by referencing Father Joseph Vusi and acknowledges the potential backlash of the video, including dislikes and unsubscribes, due to its controversial nature. The paragraph also touches on the difficulty of reaching those who believe in schism or reject Pope Francis's authority. A key point is the concept of 'informed obedience,' illustrated with a story about a seminarian asked to jump off a building, highlighting that obedience is not blind but should be informed and reasonable.
📜 The Hierarchical Structure of Authority and Obedience
The second paragraph delves into the hierarchical structure of the Catholic Church and the concept of obedience within it. It discusses the authority given to the Church by God, as illustrated by the example of Moses and the hardness of people's hearts. The paragraph explains the three levels of obedience: conscience, divine revelation (found in scripture and tradition), and church teaching (including governance, discipline, morals, and faith). It also addresses the diversity of Catholic beliefs, from conservative to liberal, and suggests that disobedience is the primary reason for this spectrum of interpretations. The paragraph concludes with a discussion on the importance of understanding and following the Church's teachings rather than personal interpretations.
🤔 The Complexity of Obedience and Interpretation within the Church
This paragraph continues the discussion on obedience, focusing on the varying degrees of Catholic beliefs and the role of obedience in shaping these beliefs. It highlights the dangers of self-interpretation of Church documents without proper understanding or credentials. The speaker emphasizes the Church's careful clarification of its teachings and the importance of adhering to these teachings rather than personal beliefs. The paragraph also touches on the role of theologians in interpreting and sharing the Church's teachings with the faithful. Additionally, it mentions the reluctance of some priests to perform exorcisms due to fear or disbelief, contrasting this with the importance of exorcism in the Church's fight against evil.
😈 Signs of Diabolic Influence and the Role of Exorcism
The final paragraph shifts the focus to the signs of diabolic influence and the process of exorcism. It describes physical symptoms, such as severe headaches and unexplained stomach pains, as well as behavioral changes like an aversion to the sacred or sudden inability to concentrate. The paragraph details the signs of possession, including superhuman strength and knowledge of unknown languages. It also recounts a case of a young man named Mark who was possessed and the successful exorcism performed by Father Amor. The paragraph discusses the investigation process for determining the need for exorcism, including the examination of the patient's history with occult practices. It concludes with a story from Father Candido about the eternal solitude of souls in hell, emphasizing the gravity of sin and its consequences.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Canon Law
💡Magisterium
💡Obedience
💡Schism
💡Vatican II
💡Informed Obedience
💡Conscience
💡Divine Revelation
💡Ecclesial Teaching
💡Exorcism
💡Sorcery
Highlights
The importance of obedience and unity within the Catholic Church, as opposed to schism and personal interpretation of doctrine.
Father Joseph Vusi's perspective on informed obedience, including the story of a seminarian asked about obeying an order to jump off a building.
The concept that obedience to the Church's hierarchy is part of one's faith, with disobedience leading to various degrees of Catholic beliefs.
Discussion on the stability of core Church teachings, such as the normative method of receiving communion, and the dangers of misinterpretation.
The authority of the Church to bind and loosen as per Matthew's Gospel, and the responsibility of the Church hierarchy in teaching and discipline.
The three levels of obedience according to Cardinal Ringer: conscience, divine revelation, and Church teaching.
The diversity of Catholic approaches due to disobedience, leading to a broad spectrum from ultra-conservative to ultra-liberal.
The dangers of self-interpretation of Church documents without proper education or credentials.
Father Gabriele Amorth's insights on the reluctance of priests to perform exorcisms and the importance of belief in their power.
The signs and symptoms that may indicate diabolic possession, including physical manifestations and behavioral changes.
The role of exorcism in the Catholic Church, with a focus on the proper procedures and norms to be followed.
Father Amorth's experience with a possessed individual who displayed superhuman strength, challenging conventional medical understanding.
The investigation into the causes of possession, including the involvement in occult practices and the discovery of objects indicative of sorcery.
A case study of a young man named Mark, who was severely possessed and unresponsive to psychiatric treatments until exorcism was performed.
The spiritual implications of disobedience and the potential for eternal consequences as illustrated by a hypothetical scenario in hell.
A call to support the educational mission of the video creator, with an invitation for donations and prayers for the audience.
Transcripts
you know and it's it's surprising to me
well really it isn't if you think about
the state of the church today how people
can think they know more than the code
of canon law then more than the
magisterium oh we don't have to listen
to these seals well then why are you a
Catholic you know make up your mind
either you follow the rules the Catholic
Church lays down or leave be honest
don't be a hypocrite but uh the point is
it's not easy to obey bless the Lord my
soul and all isin me
name hi thanks for tuning in to Armor of
God again and as always thank you so
much for taking the time to be here with
us and hopefully you'll be edified with
what we've put together for all of you
here anyway for this video I'd like to
share something from Father Joseph vusi
now usually when I make videos that
cover what father yanui is saying
something about being obedient towards
the church the magisterium this type of
video will receive a lot of thumbs down
and people unsubscribing but for those
of you who are struggling with being
obedient and are open to learning then
hopefully you'll find this video helpful
I realize by now it's really difficult
to get through the stubborn hearts for
those who have already decided that Pope
Francis is not the pope Schism is
somehow okay and not a big deal Vatican
2 is a problem in everything else that
comes along with it so I don't mind
people unsubscribing and hating on this
video because I really want to share and
spread the right message with the
platforms that I have and that is Unity
obedience and walking side by side with
the church in fact let me share you this
very short bit from father yanui before
we get on with the rest of the video
same maximan Kobe he was asked the
question what if a superior tells me to
do something that's evil I actually
asked this to my Superior when I was a
seminarian it was 1991 in Italy so when
it came to obedience I said to him I
don't understand quite what that means
so I said what if my Superior says jump
off a fivestory building am I supposed
to obey him and the superior who's
teaching me obedience said to mewhat
would you do and I said I would say
after you and he said to me good answer
so he agreed with me so that's informed
obedience okay now suppose I don't
understand the concept of obedience and
I do follow the superior and jump God
will not hold that against me because I
my intention was to obey and this
happens and has happened to almost every
saint as the grew and matured and it
happens to us I think that lays the
foundation quite perfectly for the rest
of this video now the reason I want to
make this video around the subject of
obedience this time is not with the
intention of creating a toxic comment
section after this is released if at all
it's much easier to make videos that
make everybody feel good to make videos
that will not make people unsubscribe
and receive hundreds of thumbs down but
from the beginning I always want to make
videos that educate and guide people to
walk side by side with the church not
everyone is going going to agree with
this but that's the message that I've
always placed great emphasis on from the
very beginning ideally it's best to be
on friendly terms with everyone but when
people are walking away from the church
due to their Disobedience and
misinterpretation of what the church
objectively teaches should I then ignore
all that so anyway sorry for the rather
long Interruption but here's one that I
really want to share with you next from
father yanui now here's a question
should we stick to what we want in the
past that we preferred Church teaching
and not agree with church teaching today
for example communion on the tongue or
in the hand on the tongue is the
normative teaching and it will never
change the extraordinary method is on
the hand and it's not a sacrilege to
receive it on the hand if you do so with
reverence but some people I hear say
it's a sacrilege you can't do that it's
an immortal sin it's not if you receive
it with reverence it is not a mortal sin
but if you receive it with dirty hands
that it can be simple yes so it so for a
person to say Church teaching in the
past was right and today it's wrong
that's wrong it's not it's not so why
because God gave in MA John's gospel we
read this every Easter Sunday the
authority to bind and to loosen what you
bind or no shall shall be bound in
meaning God will abide by what the
church goes along with so you're not
responsible the church is the hierarchy
is you see and this this is why when the
apostles asked Jesus about divorce and
the Mosaic law Jesus said Moses bent the
law for you basically he he introduced a
church law to um satisfy or to uh meet
the demands of the people that he was
serving Moses had that Authority did
Jesus condemn Moses no but Jesus said
basically he bent the law for you the
church has that Authority but you're
responsible for that change the person
who makes it is responsible for that
change God gave the church that
Authority so Jesus said it was not like
this in the beginning but Moses did this
on account of the hardness of your
hearts I'm not saying the church bends
the law just for its own gratification
but the reassurance we have is that the
church is the responsible institution
that Christ instituted with a
hierarchical structure the holy orders
or the papacy the episcopacy the
presbyterate they're the ones respond
responsible and it's our duty to obey
our conscience God and the church in
that order for the next clip of father
yanzi he was actually responding to a
question that goes this way to whom do
we have to be obedient because it's
natural to think Catholic priests have
the authority of course and we have to
listen to the priests so to every
Catholic priest if the priest is saying
something to us who should we listen to
and Obey in fact Cardinal ringer put out
a document on how we have three in a
high hierarchical system obligations of
obedience number one is your conscience
that starts there but it doesn't end
there because that's the first thing to
form even before you know what the
church teaches you know what's right
from wrong that God puts in you what is
your conscience it's the voice of God
and your soul telling you don't do this
do that and you don't even have to get
educated to have this knowledge in terms
of basic principles of right and wrong
like killing your parents I use this
example how do you know it was wrong to
kill your parents who told you that
nobody told me that I just know it's
wrong well where did that come from God
that's your conscience so if someone
gets angry at you you don't want to just
kill them get rid of them but you don't
do that because your conscience kicks in
and says no you don't need someone to
tell you to do that yourself and God
that's your conscience number one the
second obligation of obedience after the
conscience is a god that is found in
scripture this is divine revelation it's
found also in TR tradtion tradition
includes the writings of the listeners
to the apostles that iterated what the
apostles verbally taught then the third
is church teaching so you have Divine
teaching and then ecclesial teaching and
this includes governance discipline
morals and Faith for example the
difference between Divine and church can
be sometimes they are one and the same
like the resurrection it's Church
teaching and it's also Divine teaching
the Immaculate Conception Church
teaching Divine teaching but you have
things that are just church teaching
that are not Divine teaching like how to
gestures of worship during the Liturgy
years ago they were different than they
are today according to the different
rights or liturgies so for example in
the East Catholic the Byzantine right
they don't genuflect they bow they don't
make the sign of the cross from left to
right but from right to left that's not
Divine that's Church teaching okay so
our obedience must be with our
conscience with God and with the church
for the next clip father yanui explains
the reason why there are so many types
of Catholics out there from the
conversative ultraconservative liberal
and then the ultra liberals and I think
by now you must have figured this one
out and it's all down to obedience and
that is the two tiers of Catholics in
the church today certainly there are
subdivisions Within These two tiers and
people generally refer them to such
names like liberal or conservative now
it's not that
generic it's not that broad even though
people tend to use these generic terms
because there's a whole series of
degrees in between conservative and
liberal and there are degrees outside
not with between them but beyond them so
you may have those that are Ultra
liberal that go past the Liberals in the
far Spectrum far right spectrum and then
the ultra liberal Ultra conservatives
yeah that's what I meant to say Ultra
conservatives who go beyond the
conservatives in the far right spectrum
and the ultra liberals who go be on the
Liberals in the far left Spectrum now
why are there so many degrees of people
in this broad spectrum that goes from
ultraconservative to ultra liberal why
is that why can't they all be in the
same degree there are several reasons
but one of the main reason is
Disobedience that is probably the main
reason people like to do what they wish
they don't like to follow what the
church says some people they like to
follow what they believe theur church
should say and this is called
Disobedience and it can be moderate
Disobedience or it could be pretty grave
or severe Disobedience when people for
example set themselves up as judges of
how to interpret Church documents even
though they don't have any schooling or
credentials to do so and this is
dangerous and we've seen that not one
generation has had a shortage of these
individuals who are rebellious and that
don't follow what the church teaches and
the church is very clear whenever it
gives a teaching pedagogy catechesis or
even commentary through magisterial
documents Pap Bulls
exhortations um councils sins and the
this goes on and on and the church is
very careful to qualify and clarify what
it means when it teaches what it does
because among all these degrees of
different Persuasions of Catholicism
Orthodoxy protestantism all of which are
Christian
with different Faith systems people
follow what they think the church means
without actually going to the documents
and reading what the church teaches
that's my job as a theologian not all of
you have the time to do this so I'm
sharing this with you so the church has
canons like the code of canon law and it
makes statements and then it has
commentaries on what these words mean
and then some people will disagree with
it say no this is not what it means I
know what it means and you ask that
person well what makes you a Authority I
just feel it that way and this is the
reason why there were all these
different degrees from Ultra
conservative to ultra liberal because
most people and I'm not saying it's
they're bad intentioned most people
don't go out of their way to find out
what the church means when it says
something but they just they interpret
it the way they think the church means
without actually seeking to know what it
act objectively teaches and now for the
second part of this video I'd like to
continue where I left off from the last
video where I shared with the late
father Gabriel amorth on the Pains of
hell but this time I'd like to share a
conversation between Father Amor and a
bishop which I think you'll find quite
interesting so what happened was one day
a bishop called and asked father Amor to
exercise a certain person at first
father Amor answered that it was his
duty to appoint an exorcist and the
bishop replied that he had been unable
to find a priest who would accept the
task unfortunately according to Father
Amor this is a common occurrence often
priests do not believe in exorcisms but
if the bishop offers them the office of
Exorcist they feel as though 1,000
demons are upon them and refuse and many
times before father Amor had written
that the evil one is much more enraged
when we take Souls away from him through
confession than when we take away bodies
through exorcism in fact we cause the
devil even greater rage by preaching
because Faith Sprouts from the word of
God and this is why father Amor used to
say that a priest who has the courage to
preach and hear confessions should not
be afraid to exercise many priests are
afraid of reprisal and forget that the
devil already causes all the harm that
God allows him we can negotiate no peace
with the devil if the priests have lost
their faith to the point of not
believing in their power of exorcism and
do not use it anymore this is a horrible
Misfortune a cruel duplicity that leads
to the irrevocable abandonment to the
worst of enemies of those Unfortunate
Souls who fill the hospitals and who are
deemed victims of Hysteria
and so returning to the telephone call
between father amorth and the bishop he
told the bishop that if he could not
find a priest he was obligated to
perform the exorcism personally and the
bishop said me I would not know where to
start to which father amorph retorted
with the words that father candido used
with him when he began his
apprenticeship start by reading the
instructions in the ritual and recite
the prescribed prayers over the person
who requested them this is the point of
departure the ritual for exorcisms
starts by listing 21 Norms that must be
followed by The Exorcist the ritual
Begins by cautioning The Exorcist
against an easy belief in the presence
of a demon and gives a series of
practical rules both to help recognize
the presence of true possession and to
guide the demeanor of The Exorcist the
confusion of the bishop where he said I
would not know where to start is
Justified as father Amor puts it we
cannot improvise an exorcism it is one
thing to read about something it is
another thing actually to see it in
reality the starting point is different
when someone comes or is brought by
family or friends to be exercised one
starts with an examination to determine
whether or not there are reasonable
grounds for proceeding within exorcism
diagnosis can be made only by such an
examination one begins with the physical
symptoms the two areas most commonly
affected by evil influences are the head
and the stomach in addition to headaches
that are severe and unresponsive to
prescriptions symptoms include a sudden
inability to learn in particular young
people who never had trouble at school
all of a sudden cannot study anymore and
their ability to concentrate disappears
the signs listed in the ritual are
limited to the most spectacular
manifestations of possession such as the
ability to speak or understand unknown
languages perfectly to know the hidden
and the remote or to demonstrate a
superhuman physical strength often
father Amor was told of strange or
violent Behavior a typical symptom of
evil influence is an aversion to the
sacred it happens then that prayerful
people suddenly stop praying others stop
going to church and become full of Rage
some suddenly blaspheme often and act
violently against sacred images almost
always father Amor also encountered such
as anger against relatives or
acquaintances and many types of bizarre
behavior the other area that is commonly
affected by evil influences is the neck
of the stomach immediately under the
sternum their one can find acute and
piercing pains for which no cure can be
found if the pain travels now to the
entire stomach then to the kidneys later
to the ovaries and so on defying the
understanding and remedies of Medicine
it is a common indication of evil
influence in order to highlight this
point father Amor provided us with a
case he worked on before where he
exercise Mark a young man who was the
victim of a severe possession he had
been confined for a long time and had
been tormented by psychiatric remedies
especially electroshock without the
slightest reaction when the doctor
prescribed Sleep Therapy for an entire
week they gave him enough sleeping pills
to sedate an elephant he never fell
asleep whether during the day or during
the night he wandered around the hosal
Hospital in the stuper with wide open
eyes finally he landed at father amorph
doorstep with immediate positive results
superhuman strength can also be a sign
of diabolic possession A demented person
in an insane asylum can be immobilized
with a straight jacket a person
possessed by demons however cannot be
immobilized he can even break iron
chains father candio once told father a
Mor of a thin apparently weak girl who
had to be subdued by force by four
strong men during exorcisms she broke
every Bond even some heavy leather
straps with which they tried to tie her
down once when she was tied with strong
ropes to an iron bed she broke some of
the iron rods and folded others at a
right angle many times the patient and
his relatives if the entire family is
struck hear strange noises Footsteps in
the hallway doors opening and closing
objects that disappear Ander appear in
the most unlikely places when father
Amor conducted his investigation into
the causes he always asked when the
occurrences started if they can be tied
to something concrete if the patient
participated in occult practices if he
approached cart readers and in case of a
positive answer how things have
progressed it is possible that at the
suggestion of some friends or
acquaintances the pillow or mattress of
The Afflicted person was opened and
there were found the most interesting
objects such as colored threads toughs
of hair Tresses wooden or iron slivers
rosaries or ribbons tied with the
tightest of knots puppets animal shapes
blood clots or Pebbles these are a
certain proof of sorcery I'll share this
one last bit from father Gabriel morph's
Mentor one day father candido asked a
13-year-old girl two enemies who hated
each other all their lives hated each
other to death and both ended up in hell
what is the relationship that they will
share now since they will be with each
other for all eternity and this was the
answer how stupid you are down there
everyone folded within himself and torn
apart by his regrets there's there's no
relationship with anyone everyone finds
himself in the most profound Solitude
and desperately weeps for the evil that
he has committed it is like a cemetery
well then that will be all for the video
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different degrees of approaches in the
church from far right to far left in
between outside of that the church would
be much more um holy I believe if they
follow this path of the Saints of
obeying unless you're told something
that's clearly evil and you don't do
that unnaturally
okay but like I said before if you don't
know it's evil and it is God will not
hold you responsible for that because
your intention is to obey and please God
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