Q&A: Do Non-Muslim Sources Prove Jesus Was Muslim? | Dr. Shabir Ally
Summary
TLDRIn this video, Dr. Shabir answers a viewer's question about the strongest arguments that Jesus was a Muslim based on early non-Islamic data. He explains that modern scholarship portrays Jesus as a human prophet who likely never claimed to be God. By defining 'Muslim' as one who submits to God, Dr. Shabir argues that Jesus fits this description, citing instances from the Gospels where Jesus prayed and submitted to God. He concludes that the historical Jesus aligns more with the concept of a Muslim prophet than later theological views that depict Jesus as divine or part of the Holy Trinity.
Takeaways
- 📖 The discussion is about the historical Jesus and whether he can be considered a Muslim based on non-Islamic data.
- 🔍 Modern scholarship aims to understand the historical figure of Jesus as a human being, not as divine.
- 🙏 The term 'Muslim' is defined as one who submits to God, which can be applied to Jesus based on the scriptural accounts of his actions and prayers.
- 🌿 Jesus is likened to a Hebrew prophet from the Old Testament, emphasizing his human nature and role as a messenger of God.
- 🙏🏻 In the Gospels, Jesus is depicted as praying and submitting to God, especially in the Garden of Gethsemane as described in Matthew 26:39.
- 📜 The Gospel of Luke and John also show Jesus praying, with John presenting a more developed theology of Jesus as an intermediary but still subordinate to God.
- 🛐 John 17:3 specifically mentions Jesus praying to the 'only true God', indicating his submission and recognizing a higher divine authority.
- 🔑 The video suggests a distinction between the historical Jesus and the later theological interpretations that deified him.
- 💭 It is argued that Jesus himself could not have conceived of himself as part of the Holy Trinity or as God incarnate, based on historical context.
- 🕊 The historical Jesus is proposed to be more aligned with the concept of a Muslim prophet, a human messenger of God, than with later divine claims.
- 📝 The video concludes by asserting that, based on historical analysis, Jesus can be confidently considered a Muslim in the sense of submitting to God.
Q & A
What is the main argument presented in the script regarding Jesus' identity?
-The script argues that Jesus was a human being who likely did not claim to be God, and is more accurately described as a Hebrew prophet, similar to those in the Old Testament. It suggests that by the definition of 'Muslim' as one who submits to God, Jesus can be seen as a Muslim, especially in the context of his prayers and actions as depicted in the Gospels.
How does modern scholarship view Jesus in the historical context?
-Modern scholarship tends to retrace the steps to find the historical Jesus, often presenting him as a human who would not have claimed divinity, and more likely a prophet in the tradition of the Old Testament.
What is the script's definition of a 'Muslim' in the context of Jesus?
-The script defines a 'Muslim' as one who submits to God, and uses this definition to argue that Jesus, as depicted in the Gospels, was a Muslim because he submitted to God in his prayers and actions.
What does the script suggest about the Gospel of Matthew's portrayal of Jesus praying?
-According to the script, Matthew chapter 26 verse 39 depicts Jesus praying to God, showing him as a submitter to God, which aligns with the definition of a Muslim.
How does the Gospel of Luke portray Jesus' prayer according to the script?
-The script mentions that the Gospel of Luke describes Jesus praying on his knees, looking up to heaven, which again illustrates his submission to God.
What is the developed theology in the Gospel of John as per the script?
-The script describes the Gospel of John as having the most developed theology, presenting Jesus as an intermediary between man and God, and even akin to a second God or the begotten God in some ancient manuscripts.
What does Jesus pray in John 17:3 as mentioned in the script?
-In John 17:3, as per the script, Jesus prays that people may know God as the only true God and acknowledges himself as God's messenger, the Christ.
What dichotomy does the script refer to in the understanding of Jesus?
-The script refers to a dichotomy between the 'Jesus of history' and the 'Jesus of faith,' suggesting that while historical Jesus was likely a human prophet, later faith developments have presented him as divine.
How does the script differentiate between the historical Jesus and the theological Jesus?
-The script suggests that the historical Jesus was more likely a human prophet, while the theological Jesus has been developed to include concepts of divinity and being part of the Holy Trinity.
What conclusion does the speaker reach about Jesus' identity based on historical analysis?
-The speaker concludes that based on historical analysis, Jesus was more like a Muslim prophet, a human being and a messenger of God, which is closer to the original understanding than later theological developments.
What does the script suggest about the relationship between Jesus and the concept of the Holy Trinity?
-The script implies that while some theological perspectives present Jesus as the second person of the Holy Trinity, the historical Jesus likely did not identify with such concepts.
Outlines
🤔 Exploring Jesus' Identity as a Muslim Prophet
In this video segment, the speaker addresses the question of whether Jesus can be considered a Muslim based on the earliest non-Islamic data. The speaker argues that modern scholarship tends to view Jesus as a human being and a Hebrew prophet, not as a divine figure. The term 'Muslim' is defined as one who submits to God, and Jesus is portrayed as such in the Gospels, particularly in his prayer in the Garden of Gethsemane. Despite the theological developments that present Jesus as an intermediary or even a divine being, the historical Jesus is more accurately seen as a prophet, a human messenger of God, similar to the Old Testament prophets. The speaker emphasizes the distinction between the historical Jesus and the later theological interpretations that deified him, suggesting that the historical Jesus was closer to the concept of a Muslim prophet than to the divine identity ascribed to him in some Christian doctrines.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Muslim
💡Jesus
💡Modern Scholarship
💡Hebrew Prophet
💡Gospels
💡Garden of Gethsemane
💡Intermediary
💡Trinity
💡Christ
💡Dichotomy
💡Old Testament
Highlights
The strongest argument for Jesus being a Muslim is based on modern scholarship's reevaluation of his historical identity as a human being rather than a divine figure.
Modern scholars view Jesus as similar to Hebrew prophets of the Old Testament, which aligns with the concept of a Muslim as a submitter to God.
The term 'Muslim' is defined as one who submits to God, which can be applied to Jesus based on his actions and prayers in the Gospels.
In the Gospel of Matthew, Jesus is depicted praying to God in the Garden of Gethsemane, showing his submission.
The Gospel of Luke describes Jesus praying on his knees, further emphasizing his dependence on God.
The Gospel of John presents Jesus as an intermediary but also as a human being who prays to God, maintaining his role as a messenger of God.
John 17:3 highlights Jesus praying for people to know God as the only true God and himself as the messenger, reinforcing his submission to God.
There is a historical dichotomy between the original Jesus and the later theological developments that declared him divine.
The early Jesus is more closely aligned with the concept of a Muslim prophet, a human being and a messenger of God.
The speaker asserts that the historical Jesus is closer to the modern understanding of a Muslim than theologies that present him as part of the Holy Trinity.
The video encourages viewers to consider the historical Jesus as a Muslim prophet, distinct from later theological interpretations.
The speaker emphasizes that while not all aspects of Jesus' life can be historically reconstructed, the evidence points to him being a Muslim in the sense of submission to God.
The video invites viewers to engage with the content by liking, subscribing, and donating to support the work of Quranspeaks.com.
The discussion is aimed at providing a fresh perspective on Jesus' identity, challenging traditional Christian doctrines.
The video suggests that the historical Jesus' teachings and actions are more consistent with Islamic monotheism than with later Christian trinitarian beliefs.
The speaker concludes by confidently asserting that Jesus was a Muslim, based on the historical evidence and its alignment with the definition of a Muslim.
Transcripts
welcome back and now we answer questions
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shabir here's a question from
a viewer what are your strongest
arguments that jesus was a muslim from
the earliest non-islamic data
so i think maybe the strongest argument
would be that
modern scholarship which is actually
trying to retrace the steps and find out
who jesus was in history
they come up with a man who's a human
being who it's inconceivable that he
would have claimed to be god
and and and it seems most likely that he
was like a hebrew prophet
like the prophets of the old testament
now what we mean by muslim on the other
hand
is not necessarily a follower of the
muslim faith today
and because that that's what the word
muslim conjures in the minds of the for
not muslim with a capital m then yes we
can say muslim
giving the definition and meaning of the
term muslim the meaning of the term
muslim is one who submits to god
so as a submitter to god jesus can be
seen even in the gospels
to be submitting in the garden of
gethsemane it is said that he fell on
his face and prayed
according to matthew chapter 26 verse
number 39
so he was praying to god on whom he
depended uh
he fell on his knees and prayed
according to the gospel of
luke he looked up into heaven and prayed
according to the gospel of john
and and the gospel according to john has
the most developed
theology uh presenting jesus as uh
an intermediary between man and god the
the agent through which god created
everything else
even as a kind of a second god a
begotten god
as he's called in some of the most
ancient manuscripts of
john's gospel but even in john's gospel
in chapter 17 verse number 3
when he looked up into heaven and prayed
he said that they may know you as the
only true god
and jesus your messenger as christ so he
is the christ the messiah messenger of
god but he also has a god
and and that is the god that he was
praying to that that's the best that
history can
um decipher that there is a dichotomy
between
the original jesus the jesus of history
and the later thinking about jesus the
jesus of faith
so people have developed a faith about
jesus they declared him to be god
and some have said that he's the second
person of the holy trinity
but jesus himself hardly could have had
these concepts in his own mind so the
early jesus sounds more like a muslim
prophet sounds more like a muslim
prophet a human being a messenger of god
like the prophets of the old testament
so of course that does not mean that in
all respects we can
reconstruct the history and and know
that jesus was like the modern muslim
but
this is close enough and it is
definitely closer than some of the
theologies that are out there
that present jesus as uh as it as god
himself or as second person
of the holy trinity so so in the end i
think i can confidently assert that
jesus was a muslim
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