The Drama Keeps Going...

Tectone
22 Jul 202417:26

Summary

TLDREl guion del video muestra una discusión intensa y un malentendido en la comunidad de gamers. Se cuestiona la percepción de que se critica a un creador de contenido llamado Reglin, cuando en realidad es un tema de malentendido y malas palabras. La conversación se centra en la importancia de aclarar las intenciones y las palabras dichas, y cómo la comunidad reacciona de manera protectora y a veces sesgada. La discusión también toca la dificultad de navegar las dinámicas en línea y la necesidad de manejar la comunicación con cautela y respeto.

Takeaways

  • 😕 Un malentendido se discute en la comunidad, pero no es culpa de la comunidad sino de una expresión incorrecta.
  • 🗣 Se admite que hay malinterpretaciones, pero la comunidad entiende lo que se dijo, simplemente hubo un error de comunicación.
  • 🚷 No se está haciendo gatekeeping, se está explicando la percepción de la comunidad y la diferencia con la realidad.
  • 📢 Se menciona que los creadores de contenido están siendo preguntados por jugadores y las respuestas son consistentes con lo dicho en un video anterior.
  • 🤬 Algunos se sienten ofendidos por lo que se dice, lo que lleva a malentendidos y conflictos innecesarios.
  • 👥 Se critica que se está dando mala fe a las intenciones de un tweet, sugiriendo que hay un sesgo y falta de comprensión.
  • 🏅 Se destaca a un personaje como el 'golden good boy' de la comunidad, lo que sugiere que cualquier crítica hacia él será vista negativamente.
  • 🤔 Se plantea la idea de que las palabras pueden ser distorsionadas, y que la intención no siempre es comprendida o valorada.
  • 💬 Se discute sobre cómo manejar la situación, con sugerencias de no responder o de admitir un error y continuar.
  • 🤝 Se argumenta que el apoyo público a amigos es aceptable, a menos que las respuestas subsiguientes empeoren la situación.
  • 🤔 Se cuestiona la actitud defensiva de un personaje, sugiriendo que hay un sesgo de confirmación y falta de objetividad.

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Outlines

00:00

😀 Discusión sobre malentendidos y la comunidad

El primer párrafo aborda un malentendido entre el hablante y la comunidad. Se discute la necesidad de reconocer que no es un malentendido por parte de la comunidad, sino más bien una equivocación por parte del hablante. Se menciona que la comunidad entiende lo que se dice, pero hay una falta de comunicación clara. Además, se habla de la percepción de que no se está haciendo 'gatekeeping', sino que se está explicando la relación entre la comunidad y el juego. Se menciona también la actitud de algunos jugadores que piden a los creadores que observen y cómo las respuestas han sido malinterpretadas. Se critica la actitud de ciertas personas que se ofenden fácilmente y cómo esto afecta a la relación con el hablante. Finalmente, se discute la situación de Reglin y cómo se percibe en la comunidad, destacando su imagen positiva y cómo cualquier crítica hacia él se toma negativamente.

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😐 Análisis de la situación con Rex y la comunidad

En el segundo párrafo, se profundiza en la situación con Rex y cómo se percibe en la comunidad. Se argumenta que Rex es visto como un 'golden good boy' y que cualquier comentario negativo hacia él se toma de manera negativa. Se discute la idea de que Rex no causa problemas y se enfatiza su imagen de ser un jugador tranquilo y sin problemas. Se menciona un incidente pasado entre el hablante y Rex, pero se destaca que Rex manejó la situación con calma. Se critica la idea de que se debe evitar mencionar a Rex a menos que sea en un contexto positivo. Se sugiere que la comunidad tiene una tendencia a malinterpretar las palabras y se enfatiza la importancia de entender la intención detrás de las palabras. Se concluye que Rex se toma la situación de manera demasiado defensiva y que la comunidad tiene una tendencia a reaccionar negativamente incluso ante comentarios neutrales.

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😡 Debate sobre la respuesta de Rex y la implicación de la comunidad

El tercer párrafo se enfoca en la respuesta de Rex a la situación y cómo se relaciona con la comunidad. Se discute la idea de que Rex se defiende de manera excesiva por un tweet que el hablante considera insignificante. Se argumenta que Rex está siendo demasiado defensivo y que su reacción es desproporcionada. Se menciona que Rex se involucra en la situación de manera significativa, a pesar de que su implicación inicial fue mínima. Se sugiere que Rex está siendo injusto al criticar a otros por mencionarlo, especialmente cuando se trata de observaciones que se han demostrado ciertas en múltiples ocasiones. Se concluye que Rex está actuando de manera defensiva y que la comunidad tiene una tendencia a reaccionar negativamente a cualquier comentario que no sea de elogio hacia Rex.

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😐 Reflexión sobre la dinámica entre creadores de contenido y la comunidad

En el cuarto párrafo, se reflexiona sobre la dinámica entre creadores de contenido y su comunidad. Se discute la idea de que los creadores de contenido no deberían ser responsables de las acciones de su comunidad. Se argumenta que es injusto esperar que los creadores controlen cómo su comunidad interpreta sus palabras. Se menciona que la comunidad tiende a malinterpretar las palabras y que esto puede llevar a conflictos innecesarios. Se sugiere que es mejor que los creadores se centren en crear contenido en lugar de intentar controlar la percepción de su comunidad. Se concluye que la situación actual es compleja y que hay responsabilidades compartidas entre los creadores de contenido y la comunidad en cuanto a cómo se manejan las percepciones y malinterpretaciones.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Mala interpretación

La mala interpretación se refiere a la comprensión errónea o distorsionada de lo que alguien dice o escribe. En el video, se menciona que no hay una mala interpretación por parte de la comunidad, sino que el problema es que alguien 'misspoke', es decir, habló de manera incorrecta o inapropiada. Este término es clave para entender la dinámica de comunicación y percepción entre los personajes.

💡Gatekeeping

Gatekeeping es un término que se utiliza para describir la acción de controlar el acceso a ciertos espacios o comunidades. En el contexto del video, se sugiere que no se está haciendo gatekeeping, sino que se está explicando la situación de la comunidad y cómo esta se ve afectada. Este concepto es importante para entender la dinámica de poder y control dentro de la comunidad mencionada.

💡Reglin

Reglin es mencionado en el video como una figura clave en la comunidad, descrito como 'el buen chico de oro'. La mención de Reglin desencadena una serie de reacciones en la comunidad, lo que indica su importancia y el impacto que tiene su nombre en las discusiones. La discusión sobre Reglin muestra cómo las percepciones y las reacciones a una persona pueden afectar la dinámica comunitaria.

💡Misspoke

Misspoke se refiere a una declaración que se hace por error o sin la intención de decir algo incorrecto. En el video, se sugiere que alguien 'misspoke', lo que llevó a malentendidos y a la necesidad de aclaraciones. Este término es central para entender cómo las palabras pueden ser malinterpretadas y cómo esto puede afectar las relaciones y las percepciones en la comunidad.

💡Comunidad

La comunidad es un concepto central en el video, ya que se refiere al grupo de personas que interactúan y se relacionan en torno a un interés común. Se menciona que la comunidad tiene reacciones fuertes y a menudo distorsionadas a ciertos temas o nombres, como el de Reglin. La comprensión de la dinámica de la comunidad es crucial para entender las tensiones y los conflictos que se presentan en el video.

💡Content Creator

Un content creator es alguien que crea y comparte contenido en línea, generalmente en plataformas como YouTube o Twitch. En el video, se discute cómo los creadores de contenido pueden influir en sus comunidades y cómo estas pueden reaccionar a sus declaraciones. La responsabilidad y el impacto de los creadores de contenido en sus comunidades es un tema importante en la discusión.

💡Distorsión

La distorsión se refiere a la alteración o la deformación de algo, en este caso, a las palabras o las intenciones de alguien. Se menciona en el video que las palabras pueden ser 'twisted', es decir, distorsionadas, lo que puede llevar a malentendidos y conflictos. Este término es clave para entender cómo las comunicaciones pueden ser malinterpretadas y cómo esto puede afectar las relaciones en la comunidad.

💡Prejuicio

El prejuicio es una opinión o una actitud negativa hacia alguien o algo sin una base racional. En el video, se sugiere que hay un prejuicio negativo hacia ciertos creadores de contenido, lo que puede afectar la percepción de sus acciones y declaraciones. La discusión sobre el prejuicio ayuda a entender cómo las percepciones pueden estar influenciadas por preconceptos y cómo esto puede afectar las interacciones en la comunidad.

💡Agresivo

Agresivo se refiere a una actitud o comportamiento que muestra hostilidad o confrontación. En el video, se menciona que ciertas respuestas o declaraciones pueden ser percibidas como agresivas, lo que puede aumentar las tensiones y los conflictos. La comprensión de cómo se percibe la agresión es importante para entender las dinámicas de comunicación y la forma en que las palabras pueden ser interpretadas en la comunidad.

💡Parasociabilidad

La parasociabilidad es un fenómeno psicológico en el que los espectadores o seguidores de un creador de contenido desarrollan una conexión emocional intensa con él, a menudo sin una relación real. En el video, se sugiere que la parasociabilidad puede influir en cómo la comunidad reacciona a las declaraciones de los creadores de contenido, lo que puede llevar a malentendidos y conflictos. Este término es crucial para entender la naturaleza de las interacciones en la comunidad y cómo estas pueden afectar la percepción de los eventos.

Highlights

A discussion on misunderstandings within a community and the importance of acknowledging misspeaking.

The community's perception of 'gatekeeping' and the clarification that it was merely explaining lag.

Players asking for creators to watch and the resulting discussions on community responses.

The issue of taking offense where none was intended and the impact on community interactions.

The role of Reglin as the 'golden good boy' of the community and the implications of this status.

The advice given to stop responding to those not willing to listen, highlighting the futility of certain arguments.

The concept of confirmation bias and how it affects the perception of content creators.

A debate on whether a content creator should publicly support friends and the potential backlash.

The advice to admit mistakes and move on, rather than doubling down on controversial statements.

The exploration of the impact of a content creator's community on their public image and reputation.

A critique of the idea that content creators should be held accountable for their community's actions.

The argument that offense is taken, not given, and the responsibility of individuals to manage their reactions.

The analysis of a specific tweet and the discussion on whether it was received in bad faith.

The examination of past conflicts between content creators and their influence on current interactions.

A call for fairness in evaluating the actions and intentions of content creators in community disputes.

The suggestion that content creators should focus on creating content rather than engaging in disputes.

A reflection on the nature of fighting games and their role in fostering or preventing positive community dynamics.

Transcripts

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wait a minute this is this is why you

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guys think I bash regant Matt there's a

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huge misunderstanding between what I

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said and what y'all are feeling pushing

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okay so first of all IO needs to

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acknowledge this isn't a

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misunderstanding on the community's part

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this is him misspeaking right so let's

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just be real okay well let's all once

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again I believe that's even been

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acknowledged because this whole your

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misunderstanding no people are perfectly

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understanding they just misspoke or he

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just misspoke okay let's continue there

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was no gatekeeping being done but

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instead explaining what's lag from the

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community and by how much there's even

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like three tweets that all spring up

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this week of players asking for creators

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to watch and the anwers were exactly

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what I said in the video or none if this

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is another reason folks are acting crazy

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towards me that's not even my fault it's

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like taking offens it wasn't offensive

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because you didn't like what was being

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said n IO just [ __ ] cooked on this

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another example of this and I want to

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get back to the original point was his

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tweet was his tweet towards May which is

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just incredibly in bad faith which I

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don't understand at all because I've

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done nothing but attempt to assist EO

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besides obviously call him the bad take

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guy but let's just be real the guy just

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has bad text it is what it is it's also

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just kind of a meme to say on the

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internet that somebody has bad text this

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whole line of it's really pissing me off

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purposely not being understood is just

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insane because nobody nobody is

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purposely misunderstanding someone uh

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bro is just misspeaking okay anyways

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back to the original talking but so

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chaotic

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posted wait Rex replied to what is going

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on I'm going to DM you shortly after I

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pose this and I hope you take my advice

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stop responding the very people you're

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trying to clear things up with aren't

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willing to listen the moment you bring

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up resl in any context other than praise

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your words are going to be

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twisted okay

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I'm going to say something that people

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really aren't going to like people can

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be upset by this but if you're getting

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upset by this it's because it's the

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truth Reglin is the golden good boy of

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the pgr community if you if anybody

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takes offense to that I don't know why

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you're getting upset by that that is the

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truth he is the golden good boy I will

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also admit okay I will also admit if you

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do this what he is saying is very true

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if you say any negative reason or any

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negative thing about Reglin it is going

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to be taken horribly I don't know if I

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would say twisted but I would say it

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will be taken horribly and let me tell

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you why that is regland doesn't cause

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any

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problems he really doesn't regland

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causes no

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issues okay he's just a good guy doesn't

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talk about any issues he just plays the

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game the guy is Chill from my knowledge

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unless there's some knowledge of him

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doing something horrible am I missing

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something or no

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because I have never seen Reglin cause a

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single issue and when him and I had an

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issue in the past because I had no idea

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who he was I clowned on him a little bit

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he was cool about it so I have never

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seen him cause an issue at all because

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the guy is kind of just a a robot who

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plays video games and that's fine you

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know it is what it is right it it really

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is what it is okay so now let's uh let's

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keep going here let's keep going doesn't

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matter your intent doesn't matter why

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you did it go back to enjoying even when

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ignore these people when you get back

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don't start making

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content oh ignore [ __ ] get back making

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content you don't know anyone

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explanation and you definitely don't

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need to keep making videos to explain

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because what you're temp to say and what

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you actually say will sound worse and

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worse so I disagree with this I think EO

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should just say yeah guys I misspoke and

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I was acting dumb and then just call it

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a day I think that just gets everybody

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off of his back right but but I don't

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think I don't think doubling down is the

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right play at all I really really really

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really don't just say misspoke is what

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it is but uh yeah and the people

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actively bitching about what one cc is

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saying we'll find exactly what they're

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looking for and we continue to paint you

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in a bad light so he's talking about

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confirmation bias here obviously of

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course you're a grown man you can do

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what you want but that's my advice to

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you I think this is actually um this is

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okay advice now as a guy who's been

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navigating internet [ __ ] for six

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years I don't really think this is the

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play I think the play is go live make a

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video say you [ __ ] up say you were

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stupid is what it is call a day no one's

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going to hold it against you chaotic

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tweeting this is just stupid he's just D

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Ando no I think it's fine I think I

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think there's nothing wrong with

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publicly supporting your friends yeah I

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think I think it's actually fine unless

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the the the following tweets get worse

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what does this respond response from

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this leave me out of this dude you've

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already made pie me over DM so this name

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drop is weird Okay now hold up now this

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is this is weird I've seen this whole

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thing regarding EO and it doesn't bother

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me about what was being said on the

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stream but this the moment you bring up

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RX in any context other than praise your

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words is going to be Twisted please

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clean up your own mess my involvement

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was essentially

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0% okay I don't know why Rex is getting

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upset by this I don't I I see Zero

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reason for Rex to make this post at all

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this seems like getting mad for fun I

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don't understand this at all the the

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name drop wasn't volatile it wasn't you

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know it wasn't incendiary whatsoever it

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was just it's literally just saying the

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moment you bring up Rex any conics own

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pra you're this is just true right

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because he is like for real if people

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even think that you're [ __ ] on Rex

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then they are going to be furious right

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because he's a good dude I I don't I

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don't think this is being defamatory

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whatsoever I think he perfectly fine I

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think I think right now I think reg's

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pass bias is being shown and I think

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he's probably still a little bit jaded

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about what happened towards chaotic and

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him but like I there's there's no reason

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to tweet this in my opin I think this

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just kind of weird my opinion I I I do

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think it's I think I do think it's kind

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of weird I guess Rex doesn't see it that

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way well then he's seeing it the

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incorrect way yeah anyways yeah I think

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I think that's kind of weird as I don't

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really get that uh now this makes sense

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where all these weirdo comments are

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coming from please reent you read my

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comment and you point out where I said

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you're involved in the least what I said

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was simple as [ __ ] to

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understand I mean to be honest it really

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was easy as [ __ ] to understand am I

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crazy here like I feel like okay okay I

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I want Chad's decision here was chaotic

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saying anything crazy at all

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was he saying anything crazy at all hell

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no bro said nothing other than give

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people a warning if you [ __ ] talk Rex

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people are going to get

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twisted straight up because there's no

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reason it [ __ ] talk Rex however I think

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Rex getting a little bit weird about

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this is just that [ __ ] weird there

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was nothing to get upset about he wasn't

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but I think Rex didn't want him to name

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mentioned or to be added it's really we

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keep mentioning I think it's weird where

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someone thinks they have the right to

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never be mentioned even if it was like a

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completely neutral statement I totally

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get I totally get if someone doesn't

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want to be like [ __ ] talked or brought

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up like in a defamatory sense but saying

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like never speak my name ever I don't

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think their issues were that bad right I

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mean I I really feel like it was

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completely fine yeah I don't know man I

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I think I think that if anybody sees

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this [ __ ] as weird I think you're just

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simply wrong like this is this is

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[ __ ] Will Smith be my [ __ ] wife's

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name out your [ __ ] mouth [ __ ] please

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you read my comment you point out where

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I said you were involved in the least

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what I said was as simple as [ __ ] to

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understand whoever I love this whoever

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mens your name gets berated by the

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[ __ ] parasocial weirdos in your

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community so here's the thing I don't

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think holding a content creator

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accountable for what their Community

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does is correct I think this might be

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true however bringing up what someone's

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Community does I think it's a really

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cringe [ __ ] move because it's kind of

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just like a dude who watches you so I

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think I think this is weird on both

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sides 100% he didn't do that though he

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didn't do what he didn't blame him for

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it oh yeah I know yeah I know 100% uh

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yeah yeah 100% uh Rex Rex just took

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offense where there was no offense to be

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taken that's why a good saying is

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offense is taken not given right only

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you can decide what you're going to take

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offense to right nobody can make you

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take offense to anything hold up the

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fact that you can't talk about NE

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regular be coming after you is a bad

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thing though no R has the right to be

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annoyed by that no no absolutely not

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yeah uh no I disagree hold up uh we can

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go back we can go back to the tweets

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we'll go back we'll go back we'll go

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back to the original tweet and then then

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we'll finish this one up so that wasn't

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said the moment you bring up regant in

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any context other than praise your words

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are going to be twisted doesn't matter

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your intent doesn't matter what you did

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it right so what you said that quote

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that you just said was never [ __ ]

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said that was never said at all but if

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you are once again I'll write this down

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I'll make this make sense so this is the

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quote because because I don't know what

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why people in this community are so

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[ __ ] stupid but I'll write it out for

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all the dumb babies in chat obviously

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not all you guys but uh hey guy guys

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guys if you if you see people being

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retards in chat I need y'all to make fun

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of them okay uh this is a very cut and

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dry issue okay it's very simple it's

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very simple so here here we're going to

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break this down for you okay so EO goes

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on ego trip it's fine it happens we all

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go on ego trips every now and then not

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me of course cuz I'm the best guy on

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[ __ ] Earth earth right EO goes on ego

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trip okay chaotic puts

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out supportive tweet for him good friend

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chaotic mentions regand since he was

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mentioned in eo's video and IO is

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getting backlash for it

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chaotics regant quote the moment you

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bring up Reglin in any good context

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other than praise your words are going

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to be twisted doesn't matter your intent

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doesn't matter why you did it this was

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said due to the frequent issues that

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happen when

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anyone talks

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about regl and doesn't acknowledge or

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understand why he's good at the game and

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a good

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dude because I personally

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believe that he is

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I do believe that rean is a good dude I

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do I really do okay so now let's keep

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going here reant responds with leave me

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out of this dude you made peace with me

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over DM so this name drop is weird which

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once again I don't believe there is

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anything defamatory or incendiary merely

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an observation that has been proved

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demonstrably true in multiple occasions

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that people do not like when you say

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anything other than good things about

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regon which is fine if you have an

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overprotective Community it's fine but

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at least acknowledge it right at least

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acknowledge it right Rex

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gets what I consider overly

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defensive over a nothing Burger tweet

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clean up your own mess my involvement

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was essentially zero% his involvement

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was huge because EO brought up reg's

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name

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not not intentionally but his

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involvement was huge because io's whole

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tangent was about Reglin right and the

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issue was further exacerbated by eo's

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obviously negatively perceived Prejudice

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versus regin's content and saying how

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he's not a passionate Creator which was

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obviously another blunder by eio I I can

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understand if re is going to be upset at

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eio I don't get why he would be upset at

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chaotic right so let's keep going here

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and then chaotic respond bonds with this

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makes sense where all the weirdo

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comments are coming from please reent

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you read my comment and you point out

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where I said you were involved in the

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least it was it was it was barely a

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mentioned in the Tweet what I said was

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simply as [ __ ] once again I like to say

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I'm cool with chaotic I'm cool with EO

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and I'm cool with RS 100% what I say was

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simple as [ __ ] to understand whoever

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mention name gets berated the [ __ ]

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par social weirdos in community uh

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chaotic [ __ ] up chaotic blunders by

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holding

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CC's

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over over accountable for their

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perceived communities actions the bias

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to chaotic is insane uh really how so me

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me saying that chaotic [ __ ] up is me

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having an overly bias so if ratu now

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start talking about you would you not

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clap back okay so the difference between

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chaotic and rexlent and atsu in myself

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is insane chaotic and rexlent had an

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issue years ago due to the fact of leaks

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in punishing Gray Raven me and ATU is a

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guy who made me leak my rape trauma and

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went after my previous partners and made

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my roommate attempt suicide I think

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there's a big difference in trying to

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compare the two and I think anybody

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who's going to even try to compare these

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two Dynamics is just a [ __ ] right now

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now this is a fair take I know it's not

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the same level it's still bad blood and

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that's exactly what I'm saying this post

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was made due to the previous bad blood

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and clearly bygones were not

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bygones this is 1 million per a bad

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blood post from both sides absolutely

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now I would like to say I don't think

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chaotics first tweet was necessarily in

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bad blood I think he was just talking

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about his previous experiences okay in

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nowhere did chaotic say that Reglin was

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responsible for that happening he did

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not say that we have the exact qu quote

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right here that people that people are

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going to be pissed off if you bring up

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regant in a bad sense which is fair it's

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a fair warning letting him know you

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[ __ ] up don't [ __ ] talk

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chaotic right because he doesn't deserve

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to be [ __ ] talked however I don't

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believe that regin's response was made

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in good faith I do believe it was made

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in bad faith and has pre-existing Bad

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Blood to your words not mine that

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clearly made him make that post which

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once again ignited a situation that

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didn't need to be ignited it's not a big

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deal but I'm just trying to explain

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things why why it happens why why what

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is happening is happening does that make

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sense does anybody think I'm not being

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fair does anybody think I'm not being

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fair you're being fair great Mak sense

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great okay great whoever mention your

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name gets berated by the pair of social

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weirdos in your community I I don't

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think this is fair to say once again I

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don't think content creators should be

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held responsible for the community you

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know the community people are going to

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do with your word whatever it is that

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they [ __ ] want to do with your word

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so I think this is a bad take by chaotic

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here uh let's continue here I was giving

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advice to my friend to stand down and

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enjoy the event he is had focusing

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content not a single part of my post

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said you were involved in it and was

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received this as intended till you quote

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tweeted this which only proves my

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[ __ ] point which I do think is fair I

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really think getting upset by this uh is

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a little bit unnecessary just kind of

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giving somebody a warning hey man don't

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[ __ ] talk rugs like because people are

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going to get pissed off about I feel

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like that's fair I feel like that's

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exactly what happens anyways the only

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thing I'm saying to you on this matter

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like you said I made p with you and at

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every turn you find some way to turn

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something I say with the purest intend

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into negative instead of just talking to

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me like a grown man when you know how to

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reach me you stop this [ __ ] made

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[ __ ] involving everyone else nothing

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I said was involving you grow the [ __ ]

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up yeah I think that's pretty fair

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that's just my opin once again you can

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get upset by the way he said but I think

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that is exactly what happened I don't

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really think I don't think chaotic had

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any negative intention whatso ever

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thoughts opinions too aggro yeah I I

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mean I can I can definitely I can

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definitely agree that chaotic did say it

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a little bit Agro for sure if you

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disagree with the way that he said it

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100% that's totally fine 100% chaotic

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chaotic is being pretty aggro however I

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don't think that takes away from his

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message which I do think I do think R

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like took offense where there was none

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to be taken uh but yeah a little bit

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aggro for sure other than that not

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really that big of a deal uh what do you

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all think I think chaotic had some

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negative intention because he said

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Twisted specifically when it wasn't

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Twisted I think he was letting uh well

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okay let's see here the moment you bring

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up Reglin and any Contex other than

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praise your words are going to be

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twisted I don't think that this is

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necessarily wrong to say because you

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could say something because you know how

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the gacha community does where you say

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one thing you say oh I love pancakes and

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then somebody says oh so you hate

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waffles then I think words are very

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frequently Twisted in the gotcha space

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okay uh any anything else I think I

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don't think chaotic was aggressive in

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his first message either yeah yeah

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chaotic was definitely not aggressive in

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his first message I think Regin was

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overly defensive in his follow-up

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message and then I think chaotic was

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overly aggressive in his follow-up would

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we all agree is that fair I think

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there's faults on both sides would we

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agree okay now okay I'm going to say

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something else because I don't want to

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Middle Ground fallacy this would we

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agree that this issue would not have

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existed okay well there's a lot of

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things so eo's kind of the trigger point

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and then the community twisted his words

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twisted his words but he also misspoke

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so what I'm saying is all this is e

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fault do we

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agree who

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cares yeah content creators don't like

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each other it's hard to be cordial

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sometimes it is what it is uh I'll just

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sit back here and enjoy the popcorn

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anyways what I'm saying is guys fighting

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games are evil yeah not good very very

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non-soy very very bad wow how will this

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a FR LeBron's Legacy yeah that's what

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I'm saying okay anyways

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