Dirty is exactly why you're here | Sicario: Day of the soldado
Summary
TLDRIn the script, Matt Graver discusses the value of human trafficking over drugs with a government official, suggesting people are now the most valuable commodity. The conversation shifts to defining terrorism, with the government considering drug cartels as such, planning to add them to a terrorist list. Graver hints at strategies to destabilize cartels by creating internal conflicts, similar to lessons learned from Iraq. The official expresses concern about the moral implications of such actions, acknowledging the potential for personal corruption in the process.
Takeaways
- 🔍 The conversation is between a minister and Matt Graver, discussing the most valuable commodity crossing borders, which has shifted from cocaine to people.
- 💡 The definition of terrorism is being redefined to include drug cartels, with the intention of adding them to a terrorist list, which will increase the combat capabilities against them.
- 🤔 The minister expresses a concern that eliminating cartel leaders will not stop the problem but might only fragment the cartels into smaller groups.
- 👥 It is suggested that the death of a 'king' or leader does not start a war but ends it, implying that taking out a cartel leader might bring about a resolution.
- 🔎 The minister is inquiring about the whereabouts of a cartel leader named Reyes, and it is mentioned that his family is under surveillance.
- 👨👧👦 Reyes has two children, with the youngest being 16 years old, and there is a suggestion to kidnap the younger child to provoke action from the cartel leader.
- 🌐 A historical reference is made to the Middle East, where similar tactics have been used, indicating a belief that these strategies could be effective here as well.
- 🚫 The conversation touches on the need for external military support, including supplies and air support, without the knowledge of the people involved.
- 🤝 There is an unspoken understanding that the people involved in the operation will know they are not to be identified.
- 😷 Matt Graver expresses a personal reluctance and the moral dilemma of getting involved in such a dirty and potentially corrupting operation.
Q & A
Who is Matt Graver, and what is his role in the conversation?
-Matt Graver appears to be a government official or a high-ranking officer discussing the issue of cartels and their impact on national security.
What is the most valuable commodity that the cartels are trafficking according to the conversation?
-The most valuable commodity that the cartels are trafficking is people, as they do not require cultivation or processing and can be paid three times the price even if they fail to cross the border.
How is terrorism defined in the recent context of the conversation?
-Terrorism is defined as the use of violence by individuals or groups to achieve political goals.
What is the government's plan regarding the cartels in the near future?
-The government plans to add the cartels to the list of terrorist organizations, which is expected to increase their combat capabilities against them.
Why is the speaker suggesting that the cartels should be made to fight each other?
-The speaker suggests that making the cartels fight each other would be an easier way to suppress them, drawing a parallel to the lessons learned from Iraq.
What is the speaker's opinion on eliminating the cartel leaders?
-The speaker believes that eliminating the cartel leaders will not solve the problem, as it will only lead to the cartels splitting into smaller factions.
What is the significance of the 'prince' mentioned in the conversation?
-The 'prince' seems to be a key figure in the cartel, and the speaker suggests that kidnapping him could provoke a reaction from the 'king,' possibly referring to a higher authority within the cartel.
What is the current status of the search for Reyes' hideout?
-The hideout has not been found yet, but the family members are under surveillance.
Does the speaker believe that the cartel leader Reyes is in contact with his family?
-While it is not confirmed, the speaker speculates that Reyes is likely in contact with his family.
What is the age of the youngest child of the cartel leader Reyes?
-The youngest child of the cartel leader Reyes is 16 years old.
What does the speaker imply about the potential consequences of kidnapping the 'prince'?
-The speaker implies that kidnapping the 'prince' could escalate the situation into a war and that the authorities would be implicated if their involvement is discovered.
Outlines
👤 Discussing Valuable Contraband and Terrorism
The dialogue introduces Matt Graver and discusses the most valuable contraband crossing the border, highlighting that human trafficking has become more profitable than cocaine. It touches on the definition of terrorism and the government's decision to classify drug cartels as terrorist organizations to enhance their combat strategies.
🪖 Strategy for Disrupting Cartels
The discussion turns to strategies for dealing with cartels, suggesting that inciting conflicts between them could be more effective than targeting leaders. The conversation mentions monitoring cartel leader Reyes's family and the potential of kidnapping his son to provoke a reaction. The need for external military support and secrecy is emphasized, with a commitment to taking necessary actions despite the moral implications.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Cartel
💡Cocaine
💡Human Trafficking
💡Terrorism
💡President
💡Iraq
💡Leader
💡War
💡Middle East
💡Family
💡Dirty
Highlights
Discussion on the most valuable commodity being people, not cocaine, in the context of cartel activities.
People are willing to pay three times the price of 1kg of cocaine to cross borders, even if they fail.
Definition of terrorism as using violence to achieve political goals, applicable to drug cartels.
Plans to add drug cartels to the list of terrorist groups, potentially increasing combat capabilities.
Suggestion that cartels fighting each other can be more easily suppressed, drawing from lessons in Iraq.
Acknowledgment that eliminating cartel leaders might not stop their operations but could lead to fragmentation.
Concern that killing a leader might not end a war but start it, as seen in historical precedents.
Inquiry about the whereabouts of a cartel leader's hideout and the surveillance of his family.
Speculation that the cartel leader might be in contact with his family despite surveillance.
Mention of the cartel leader having two children, with the youngest being 16 years old.
Proposal to kidnap the cartel leader's son to provoke a response and potentially end the war.
Comparison to similar tactics used in the Middle East and their potential applicability in the current situation.
Discussion about sourcing soldiers and support externally, including logistics and air support.
Concern that the involvement of external forces needs to remain covert.
Admission that executing the plan would require significant moral compromise and could be seen as dirty.
Implicit agreement to proceed with the plan despite its moral implications.
The conversation suggests a complex and potentially controversial strategy to combat cartels, involving moral dilemmas and strategic manipulation.
Transcripts
장관님
이쪽은 맷 그레이버입니다
저기 앉게
카르텔이 우리 국경을 넘나들게 하는 가장 가치 있는 상품이 뭐라고 생각하지?
20년 전에는 코카인이었죠
요즘은 사람들입니다
사람들은 경작하거나 가공할 필요도 없고
설사 국경을 넘는 데 실패해도
코카인 1kg 3배 가격을 지급하고서라도 국경을 다시 넘으려 하죠
테러리즘을 어떻게 정의하겠나? 그레이버?
그건 장관님의 소관 같군요
최근 정의는 "정치적 목표를 달성하기 위해 폭력을 사용하는
개인 또는 집단" 이라고 하지
정부 당국은 이제 마약카르텔이 그 정의에 들어 맞는다고 생각하네
다음 주에 대통령께서 마약카르텔을
테러 단체 목록에 추가할 예정이라네
이게 놈들에 대한 우리의 전투 능력을
증대시킬 거란 건 자네도 잘 알테지
지금은 카르텔 간의 상황이 안정된 상태지만
이라크에서의 교훈에서 알 수 있듯이
카르텔들이 서로 싸우게 만들면 훨씬 손쉽게 제압 할 수 있지
필요한 건 뭐든지 하겠습니다
확실하게 말해주시죠
무슨 의견 없소?
카르텔 지도자를 없애진 않을 거고
그러면 카르텔이 여러 개로 쪼개질 뿐이죠
게다가, 왕을 죽이면 전쟁을 시작하는 게 아니라 끝내는 거죠
그건 우리도 염려하는 바요
레예스의 은신처는 찾았나요?
아니, 하지만 가족들은 감시 중이오
그가 가족들과 연락하나요?
확인은 안 되지만 그럴 거라 추측한다네
- 자식은 있나요? - 2명
가장 어린 애는 몇 살이죠?
16살
16살이요?
전쟁을 시작하고 싶으시면
왕자를 납치하시죠
그럼 왕도 움직일 겁니다
중동에서도 비슷한 일을 한 걸로 아네만
그 전술들이 여기서도 통할 것 같나?
장관님이 원하신다면요
군인들은 외부에서 구하게나
보급과 공중지원도 포함해서
그들이 우리 소행인 걸 알게 되면 안된다는 건 말 안해도 안다고 생각하겠네
확실히 말하지만
정말 이 일을 실행하신다면
제가 좀 많이...
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