Range, efficiency, charging comparison: Standard Range LFP v pre Heat Pump Long Range Tesla Model 3
Summary
TLDRIn this video, Richard compares the efficiency and real-world range of two Tesla Model 3s: a 2019 long-range version and a 2022 standard range with a heat pump and LFP battery. They test both cars in cold, damp UK weather to see if the newer standard range can match the long-range model's performance. The test includes a 170-mile journey and a charging speed comparison, revealing the surprising efficiency of the standard range car despite its smaller battery.
Takeaways
- 🚗 The video compares the real-world range difference between a pre-heat pump Tesla Model 3 Long Range and a post-2021 heat pump Standard Range.
- 🔋 The Long Range model has a dual motor, bigger battery, and 4-wheel drive, while the Standard Range model is noted for its efficiency with a 60 kWh LFP battery.
- 📈 The test involves charging the cars to their recommended daily limits (90% for the Long Range and 100% for the Standard Range) and then driving them in cold, damp weather to assess efficiency.
- 🌡️ The video highlights the impact of cold weather on the cars' efficiency and battery conditioning, with the Standard Range model showing better efficiency despite the weather conditions.
- ⚡ The charging process is also compared, with the Standard Range model charging slightly quicker due to its smaller battery size, despite starting with a lower state of charge.
- 🛣️ The journey covered is approximately 170 miles, and the cars' efficiency is measured throughout the trip, with the Standard Range model outperforming the Long Range model in this test.
- 🔄 Preconditioning of the battery is used to warm it up for optimal performance, with the Long Range model using more energy for this process during the journey.
- 📊 The video provides detailed efficiency data, showing that the Standard Range model has a significantly lower energy consumption per mile compared to the Long Range model.
- 🚧 The test acknowledges that the Long Range model's 19-inch Sport Wheels may have reduced its efficiency compared to the 18-inch Aero Wheels on the Standard Range model.
- 🔄 The video also notes an oversight where Sentry Mode was left on in one of the cars overnight, resulting in a 6% battery loss, but this is accounted for in the efficiency calculations.
- 🏁 In conclusion, the video finds that the Standard Range model is more efficient and can travel just as far for the same battery percentage, despite having a slower recharging speed.
Q & A
What is the main purpose of the video?
-The main purpose of the video is to compare the real-world range and efficiency differences between a Tesla Model 3 Long Range and a Tesla Model 3 Standard Range with a heat pump and LFP battery.
What are the key differences between the two Tesla Model 3s being compared in the video?
-The key differences include the presence of a heat pump and LFP battery in the Standard Range model, the Long Range model having a dual motor, a larger battery, and 4-wheel drive capabilities.
What is the significance of the heat pump and LFP battery in the newer Tesla Model 3s?
-The heat pump and LFP (Lithium Iron Phosphate) battery are significant as they contribute to increased efficiency and potentially longer range in the newer Tesla Model 3s.
What was the plan for testing the efficiency of the two Tesla Model 3s?
-The plan was to charge both cars to their recommended daily charge limits, drive them in cold and damp weather conditions, and compare their efficiency over a journey of approximately 170 miles.
Why was preconditioning turned off during part of the journey?
-Preconditioning was turned off to prevent the use of additional battery power for the entire journey, allowing for a more accurate comparison of the cars' efficiency without the extra energy consumption from preconditioning.
What was the impact of Sentry mode on the battery percentage overnight?
-The Sentry mode was left on by mistake, causing a 6% loss in battery percentage overnight due to the car's systems being active.
How did the weather conditions affect the efficiency of the Tesla Model 3s during the test?
-The cold, damp, and wet weather conditions required increased climate control activity, which cost 0.9% of the trip's energy, affecting the overall efficiency of both cars.
What was the difference in efficiency between the two Tesla Model 3s after the test?
-The Standard Range Tesla Model 3 showed better efficiency with 314 W hours per mile compared to the Long Range model's 340 W hours per mile.
How did the charging speeds of the two Tesla Model 3s compare after the test?
-Although the Long Range model started charging at a higher rate, the Standard Range model charged quicker overall due to its smaller battery size and less energy consumption.
What additional insights are provided about the Tesla Model 3s in the video?
-The video provides insights into the cars' efficiency in real-world conditions, the impact of different features like the heat pump and Sentry mode, and the comparison of charging speeds and efficiencies between the two models.
Outlines
🔋 Tesla Model 3 Range Test Introduction
In this video, Richard introduces a comparative test between two Tesla Model 3s: a pre-heat pump long-range model and a post-2021 standard range with a heat pump and LFP battery. The goal is to determine the real-world range difference between the two models, especially considering the efficiency improvements in the newer standard range. Richard explains the test plan, which includes charging the cars to their recommended limits, driving them in cold and wet weather, and comparing their efficiency over a 170-mile journey. He also mentions that the long-range model has a dual motor, larger battery, and 4-wheel drive, while the standard range model is more efficient with its 60 kWh LFP battery. The actual test will be conducted by Gins and Serge, with the results to be shared in the following video.
🚦 Real-World Efficiency Comparison of Tesla Model 3s
This paragraph details the ongoing efficiency comparison test between the Tesla Model 3 long-range and standard range cars. The narrator discusses the cars' preconditioning, which uses additional energy and affects efficiency. The test involves driving 50 miles and checking the battery percentage and efficiency of both cars. The standard range car, driven by the narrator, shows better efficiency with 71% battery left and an average of 250 Wh/mile, compared to the long-range car with 64% battery left and an efficiency of 379 Wh/mile. The narrator also notes the impact of cold weather on energy consumption, with the car's systems using extra power for climate control, tire drag, and battery conditioning. The test continues with the preconditioning turned on and off at different points to see its effect on efficiency and range.
🔌 Charging Speed and Efficiency Conclusion
The final paragraph wraps up the Tesla Model 3 range and efficiency test. After completing the journey, the narrator compares the efficiency and charging speeds of both cars. The standard range car, despite having a smaller battery, charges quicker due to less energy consumption. The long-range car, with its larger battery and 19-inch sport wheels, has lower efficiency but still offers benefits like faster speed and acceleration boost. The narrator emphasizes the impressive efficiency of the standard range model and its ability to travel the same distance as the long-range model for the same battery percentage. The video concludes with a discussion about the advantages of the long-range model and a teaser for the next video, which will feature a Tesla Model 3 Performance with over 100,000 miles on its odometer.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Tesla Model 3
💡Used Car Market
💡Long Range
💡Standard Range
💡Heat Pump
💡LFP Battery
💡Real World Range
💡Efficiency
💡Preconditioning
💡Sentry Mode
💡Charging Speed
Highlights
Comparison of two Tesla Model 3s: Long Range vs. Standard Range with heat pump and LFP battery.
Used car market prices for Tesla Model 3s in the mid to upper 20s.
Real-world range test between preheat pump Long Range and heat pump Standard Range Tesla Model 3s.
Long Range model features dual motor, bigger battery, and 4-wheel drive.
Post-2021 Standard Range models are noted for their efficiency with a 60 kWh LFP battery.
Daily recommended charging limit of 90% for the Long Range and 100% for the Standard Range.
Weather conditions impact on efficiency: cold, damp, and wet.
Sentry mode left on accidentally, resulting in a 6% battery loss overnight.
Efficiency comparison during a 170-mile journey.
Preconditioning battery for optimal temperature during the drive.
Difference in efficiency between the two models: 250 Wh/mile for Standard Range vs. 379 Wh/mile for Long Range.
Charging speed comparison: Standard Range charges quicker due to smaller battery size.
Final efficiency data for both models after the journey.
Discussion on the practicality of Long Range vs. Standard Range for used car buyers.
The impact of 19-inch Sport Wheels on the Long Range model's efficiency.
Upcoming video on a Tesla Model 3 Performance with over 100,000 miles.
Transcripts
Hello everybody welcome my name is
Richard and in this video I want to
compare two Tesla Model 3s so on the
used car market obviously prices vary
but now even in the mid 20s and upper
20s you see Tesla Model 3 long ranges
like this one here and you see the later
standard ranges so this when I say later
I mean the post 2021 the ones with a
heat pump and lfp battery and I want to
see what the real world range difference
is between the two so a preheat pump
long range and a heat pump standard
range is there going to be that much
difference between them now obviously
the long range is dual motor it does
have a bigger battery is faster as well
and it's 4-wheel drive but these later
ones are really efficient with a 60 K
lfp battery in this one you charge it to
100% every day if you want to and
they're so efficient that I don't think
the real world range is too far off so
in this video we're going to do a test
and find out now I'm not available
tomorrow but Gins behind the camera
there and our colleague Serge you in
know both different videos before are
going to be taking these cars down to
colal to do a comparison in the real
world So the plan is uh we're actually
going to charge these cars up now this
one has a a daily recommended charging
limit 90% so we charge it at 90% 100%
charge limit on this one uh which is
recommended daily so this would be 100%
charge they're going to leave here at
those states of charge they're going to
be going home tonight and tomorrow
morning from a cold start and we've got
some terrible weather at the moment it's
not especially freezing but it's cold
and damp and wet and horrible uh as
anyone in the UK in the beginning of
January will know and see how their
efficiency Compares as they drive down
on a journey kind of 170 odd miles
tomorrow how much of the battery
percentage will they use and what will
their efficiency be that's what we're
going to find out so I'll leave you from
here that's the introduction it's going
to be over to ginson searge to let you
know some of the details how they get on
tomorrow and the difference between the
2022 standard range 60 K hour lfp and
the 20 19 model 3 long range one thing I
will just highlight before I leave is
that our model 3 this is gray it's one
of our cars been a l of videos um he's
on a 19-in sport wheel so they're
probably going to be a little bit less
efficient than the 18-in arrows on this
car so we're going to make a little bit
of an allowance for Graham for that but
earli car without the the heat pump from
a cold start tomorrow let's see exactly
what the efficiency difference is and
how much difference there is in the
worldwood range right here we go um it's
7:36 in the morning me and s s just
there so we just entered the first stop
which is going to be supercharger at
lifting so my car thinks we can drive
there with 29% and what about you Serge
18% so he's in Long Range I'm in a
standard range and the cars are actually
saying they're preconditioning now both
of them mine and surges so we're going
to let them uh do whatever they want to
do and see how it pans out 2 hours 45
minutes 123 mil to go and serge just
told me there's going to be storm coming
up our way storm hang cool off we go
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and just a quick thing forgot to say I'm
going to start at 89% of battery from
the location we just met and ser is
going to start at 82 so while we're
stuck in the traffic 8:00 in the morning
perfect we were just looking at the map
and seeing what the car is doing um
regarding just precond conditioning and
navigation of supercharger as I said
earlier video we're navigating to lift
and supercharger and my car thought we
going to ride over 29 % and my car
started preconditioning straight away
and it was doing so for for the journey
until now which is about 15 20 minutes
and I'm like well that's bit weird like
it's 2 and a half hour journey and it's
already preconditioning using low
battery and I went to this a new energy
screen and the car told me already use
2.1 miles from the trip extra to
precondition the battery and we'll do so
throughout the whole journey so what are
we going to do now is we're going to
switch off preconditioning the the total
Journey we have to do now until
supercharge is 120 Mi so we're going to
switch off preconditioning so we're
navigating there for 60 m without
preconditioning and then rest of the 60
Mi we're going to turn the pre
conditioning on so the battery can warm
up as much as it needs to so this is
what we can to do now a small thing
forgot to say regarding the battery
percentages is that we both took these
cars home and we supposed to switch off
the Sentry mode off and both of the cars
so s Sentry mode was off and I thought
my Sentry mode was off as well because I
didn't see the red light the red eye
thing whatever that's recording and I
was like cool that's off and when I got
this in a car this morning I was like oh
no it's on so unfortunately I forgot to
switch it off well I thought it switched
off but it wasn't so therefore the car
lost 6% of the battery overnight um
which is not brilliant uh but it's not
going to really change anything for us
because we're measuring efficiency
rather than the used battery percentage
and we we can compensate that adding
plus 6% to the battery and when we get
there so it's fine but the main thing
efficiency data will still be
[Music]
correct right so we both have covered 50
miles so let's check in so I got 71% of
battery left and my average is 250 W
hours per mile and I use 13 KW hours so
I've got
64% um I've used 17
KW and my efficiency is 379 W hours per
mile right so do you hear that so he
used 17 kilowatt hours I used 13 so
there's a difference and his efficiency
is much worse than mine so his car
thinks he's going to arrive at 30% to
our pin which is just next to the
liftting supercharger my car thinks it's
going to be
40% so there's a 10% difference so we
still have 85 miles to go uh in about 25
mil are we going to turn on the prec
conditioning as then just press the n
naate to supercharg and the car will
start pre pre conditioning if it needs
to so and then we'll compare data with
the pre conditioning as
[Music]
well and another thing I just went to
the energy screen and it says here
increased climate control activity air
Dr Tire drag and battery conditioning
due to cold weather cost 0.9% of this
trip so means what the car does is
actually still preconditioning battery
for the drive not for the charging
though so it's probably keeping optimal
temperature for the battery and cuz a
region actually came back now so I think
it's managing the optimal temperature
for the battery where all the regions
available and so you have no problems
with driving it uh but for the charging
I think it will struggle now so we have
4 miles left and we're going to turn
preconditioning on so we get 61 miles
left till supercharger uh let's do some
data now and then we'll turn on the
precond conditioning so let me have a
look autop pil is working nicely so
let's have a look so 76 M covered 18 KW
hours used 230 W hours per mile that is
efficient we'll put the calculations
here um 61% battery left so let's see
how SE doing uh I've got
53% uh left um used 24 KW so far and the
efficiency is
314 W hours per
mile so he used 24 KW hours so there's a
6 Kow difference as always Sun ranges
shows how efficient it is compared to
and even though the long range is very
efficient but this car is just in
another level okay let's turn on the
preconditioning for the Supercharger so
the serer car before preconditioning
would arrive with a or pin with 27% now
the return on the precond conditioning
is going to ride over with 19% minus 41
before 29 now
so again the battery uh sizes are
different but mine would use a bit more
more percent to warm up and as we think
lfp battery needs a bit more heat anyway
so but the moment I'm arriving with more
battery percentage than SE so let's
finish the journey and then compare
[Music]
efficiency so after about 43 mi into the
joury after we switched on the prec
conditioning pre conditioning has
stopped so the car is preconditioned in
my turn back on briefly before we arrive
to just to make sure the temperature up
up up to the standard but it looks like
the car's prec conditioned now and yeah
numbers have increased efficiency has
worsen a bit uh but we'll tell numbers
when we get there we'll compare to the
long range behind me right so we have
arrived let's have a look at the numbers
so since last charge which was yesterday
evening 1 38 Mi 36 kows used uh now the
average is
259 that's including pre conditioning
you can also have a look at this graph
so it used 4.4% for battery uh
preconditioning and they arrive at
28% cool let's have a look at the surg
stats okay so 130 M covered same as me
340 W hours per mile and as you can see
this car is not as as efficient as the
other one battery conditioning used much
more than me actually 8.2% used compared
to mine 4 something so these are the
numbers so let's plug the cars in and
see which charges quicker I think it's
going to be this one and he arrived here
with 18% I at 28% so 10% difference in
arrival Sun R ride with 28% about 72
miles left of range long range ride with
18% about 50 odd Ms left in a battery
but remember that started with 100% this
started with 90 but I also used 6%
overnight in tension mode they forgot to
switch off these V4 massive and I has
some light where is that where's some
screens or something yeah let's have a
look I don't think it says anything no
it doesn't turn off it's also raining I
think you need to jacket so we just
plugged in both cars let's see what they
do this is a standard range 45
KW
52 59 Serge what are you doing 25 all
right so s at 255 I'm at
126 Graham is charging always
ridiculously fast don't know why but
it's still rumping up let's see
143
144 okay it looks like this is where
it's going to stay 143
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142
[Applause]
so in 10 minutes I recharge back to 61%
added 19
Kow and same time in 10 so there's been
10 minutes and surges at
60% and how many kilow 20 30 Kow and
there we go so they actually took
they're the same now both at 60% and one
added less one added more that charges
quicker that charges slower but smaller
battery bigger battery so actually the
same thing so there we go so here we go
it just clicked 15 minutes over here I'm
at
73% 73% 26 K hours at it and serge is at
71 71% and
30 look at that that's actually charged
quicker than Graham interesting so that
was that that was a little interesting
trick trip and comparison between long
range 2019 and 2022 standard range as
you can see standard range is much more
efficient and it'll put all the data of
the pro router range and efficiency on
the table here and also interestingly
charging speed although that car was
charging much quicker at 250 straight
away as you plugin rumped up to 250
stayed there for a bit this was slowly
rumping up to 145 is and then went down
to 130 for stayed there for a bit and
then slight slightly uh decreased again
but overall actually charge quicker
because it has a smaller battery it use
less energy so therefore this actually
charged a couple minutes quicker than
the long range which is quite
interesting as well okay that was really
interesting I was really looking forward
to seeing that video myself so I hope
you have done as well um well done
Against The Surge for filming that good
work now I have to say from our long
range there our car we call Graham that
surge was driving that's about the worst
range of efficiency we've seen from that
car it was terrible weather that day and
again and I will reiterate we've got the
upgraded 19in Sport Wheels which would
have cost it some efficiency as well now
the efficiency of the newer long ranges
is better 2021 cars onwards had the heat
pumps and mein did film a day driving
around Wales with the older long range
and newer long range so we can show you
the differences of efficiency on that
video and I'll try and put a link in the
description below but from this one what
we've just taken away is that on used
Market you might be comparing these two
and actually the standard range goes
just as far for the same battery
percentage and actually though it has a
slower recharging speed recharg the same
number of miles in the same amount of
time in fact slightly better so that was
a really interesting aspect of that
video I thought now what's the pointed
by a long range well it is faster it is
forward drive you do have that potential
if you charge it 100% for some extra
range and it's fine to go to 100% as
long as you're going to use it so I
personally would I pick a long range
well I probably would actually because I
like that little bit of extra turn of
speed and you can do acceleration boost
so it's even faster but really
interesting comparison and amazing
efficiency from the standard range there
very interesting indeed so I hope you
found that interesting useful I
certainly did uh so make sure you hit
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run and this has got now over 100,000
miles it's been trouble free it's a
brilliant car and so we're going to do
some filming with that and how that's
held up over 100,000 miles what's the
battery health is like and that kind of
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