Mar Mari Emmanuel's Response To His Suspension From The Assyrian Church
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses accusations against an individual named Mar Mary, who is also known as Robert Schon. He is accused of various violations of church laws, including living with his mother, not attending daily prayers, and wearing a traditional head covering. The speaker refutes these claims by citing historical church councils and canon laws, arguing that Schon's actions are in line with traditional practices and that there is no basis for the accusations in church law. The script also addresses allegations about using images of saints, running charity, and using modern technology like mobile phones, all of which the speaker deems permissible.
Takeaways
- 🚫 Robert Schon is not recognized as a member of the Assyrian Church of the East and is forbidden from entering its churches.
- 🔍 Schon was ordained by the ancient Church of the East but was later suspended, resulting in him not belonging to any church.
- 📧 An email was sent to His Holiness on August 15, 2014, addressing accusations and clarifying nine points related to church laws.
- 🏠 Schon argues that according to Canon 3 of the first Universal Council of NAA, clergy can live with their mothers, which counters the accusation against him.
- 🙏 He defends himself against the accusation of missing prayers by referring to Canon 80 of the second Council of Constantinople, which only holds clergy accountable for missing Holy Mass.
- 👲 Schon discusses the historical and religious significance of wearing the baruna, a traditional head covering, and its acceptance in the church.
- 🖼 He refutes the accusation of using images of saints inappropriately, citing their common use in church premises and publications.
- 🤝 Schon emphasizes that there is no church law against running charity funds, highlighting the importance of charity in Christianity.
- ☕ He dismisses the accusation of holding social gatherings after church services, stating that there is no church law against such practices.
- 💬 Schon argues that using words of endearment is part of Australian culture and does not reflect any inappropriate relationship with parishioners.
- 🌍 He defends the idea of taking parishioners on tours to Jerusalem, stating that there is no church law against such activities.
- 📱 Lastly, Schon points out that there is no prohibition in church law against using modern technology like mobile phones and earphones for communication.
Q & A
Who is the person being discussed in the script?
-The person being discussed is Robert Schon, who calls himself Mar Mary, and is not a member of the Assyrian Church of the East.
What is the status of Robert Schon within the Assyrian Church of the East?
-Robert Schon is not recognized by the Assyrian Church of the East, and his teachings are forbidden. He has been suspended from his church and does not belong to any church now.
What action was taken by the speaker regarding Robert Schon?
-The speaker sent an email to His Holiness on the 15th of August, 2014, seeking clarification and replying to nine points concerning accusations against Robert Schon.
What is the significance of the 'baruna' mentioned in the script?
-The 'baruna' is a traditional head covering worn by Assyrian holy monks and is considered an ancient practice of the Universal Church.
Why is the use of images in leaflets or church considered acceptable according to the script?
-The use of images in leaflets or church is considered acceptable because it has been a historical practice and is not forbidden by any church law.
What does the script say about charity funds in the context of church law?
-The script states that there is nothing in church law that forbids charity funds, as they are seen as an act of love and sacrifice, following the example of Jesus.
What is the script's stance on the use of words of endearment towards parishioners, especially women?
-The script suggests that using words of endearment is part of Australian culture and is not inherently wrong, as long as it reflects politeness and kindness without implying any inappropriate relationship.
What is the script's view on clergy taking their congregation on tours to Jerusalem?
-The script indicates that there is no church law forbidding a bishop from taking his congregation on tours to Jerusalem and visiting holy shrines.
What is the script's opinion on the use of modern technology like mobile phones and earphones by bishops?
-The script suggests that there is no prohibition in church law against bishops using modern technology for communication or fulfilling their duties, although it mentions potential health hazards.
What is the script's reference to the Council of NAA and its relevance to the discussion?
-The script refers to the Council of NAA and the first Universal Council convened by Emperor Constantine the Great to highlight that clergy can live with family members, such as a mother, according to Canon 3 of the council.
How does the script address the accusations against Mar Mary regarding attendance at prayers and services?
-The script uses Canon 80 of the second Council of Constantinople to argue that clergy can be held accountable only if they miss Holy Mass for three weeks in a row, not for missing daily prayers.
Outlines
🚫 Denial of Church Membership and Accusations Against Mar Mary
The speaker clarifies that they do not gossip but are compelled to address the situation involving a man named Robert Schon, who calls himself Mar Mary. Schon is accused of being non-affiliated with the Assyrian Church of the East and is not recognized by them. The speaker asserts that Schon's teachings are forbidden, and he is banned from entering their churches. Schon was previously ordained but later suspended. The speaker also discusses an email sent to the church's Holiness, addressing accusations against Mar Mary, including living arrangements, prayer attendance, and the use of a head covering called the baruna, which is defended as an ancient and acceptable practice.
📜 Counterarguments to Accusations Against Mar Mary
The speaker provides detailed counterarguments to accusations leveled against Mar Mary. They reference historical and religious texts, including the Council of NAA and the first Universal Council convened by Emperor Constantine, to defend Mar Mary's right to live with his mother, attend prayers, and wear a baruna. The speaker also addresses accusations regarding the use of images of saints, charity work, social gatherings after Bible preaching, and the use of words of endearment, arguing that none of these are against church law. They also refute the claim that Mar Mary is forbidden from taking his congregation on tours or using modern technology, such as mobile phones.
📱 Modern Technology and Health Concerns in the Church
In the final paragraph, the speaker discusses the use of modern technology, specifically mobile phones and earphones, by church officials like bishops. They argue that there is no church law prohibiting the use of such technology for communication or fulfilling duties. However, they also raise a health concern about the potential hazards of using mobile phones directly against the ear, suggesting that this could lead to health problems.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Christianity
💡Assyrian Church of the East
💡Ordination
💡Defrocking
💡Canon Law
💡First Universal Council of NAA
💡Second Council of Constantinople
💡Baruna
💡Charity
💡Endearment
💡Mobile Phone
Highlights
Robert Schon, also known as Mar Mary, is not a recognized member of the Assyrian Church of the East and is forbidden from entering its churches.
Schon was ordained by the ancient Church of the East but was later suspended.
An email was sent to His Holiness on August 15, 2014, addressing accusations and clarifying nine points.
Canon law does not prohibit clergy from living with their mothers, contrary to one of the accusations against Marari.
Clergy are not required to attend every morning and evening prayer in public daily, as per the second Council of Constantinople.
The use of the baruna or head covering by clergy, including Marari, is an ancient and accepted practice in the Universal Church.
There is no prohibition in church law against using images of saints in leaflets or church premises.
Charity funds are not forbidden by church law, and Jesus' life is cited as the ultimate charity.
There is no church law against having tea or coffee after Bible preaching, contrary to one of the accusations.
Using words of endearment towards parishioners, including women, is part of Australian culture and not against church law.
There is no church law forbidding bishops from taking their flock on tours to Jerusalem or waving the Australian flag.
The use of mobile phones and earphones by bishops, including for health reasons, is not prohibited by church law.
Marari's response to accusations includes references to historical and canonical precedents within the church.
The transcript emphasizes the importance of understanding and following the true teachings and laws of the church.
The discussion highlights the need for clear communication and adherence to church law in the resolution of disputes.
The transcript provides a detailed examination of the accusations against Marari, offering a point-by-point rebuttal.
The use of modern technology by clergy is presented as a practical tool for communication and fulfilling duties, not a violation of church law.
Transcripts
I have no habit of talking about people
but only I talk when I see someone
talking
ill about Christianity this man his name
is he calls him himself Mar Mary but his
name is Robert
Schon he is not a member of the Assyrian
Church of the East he's never been
member of the Assyrian Church of the
East we do not recognize his
teaching we completely forbid him from
entering into any of our
churches he was ordained by the ancient
Church of the east by Metropolitan
maraku then he was def frogged it means
he was
suspended from his church now he doesn't
belong to no church I sent an email
today to his Holiness on the 15th of
August
2014 and a
clarification and a reply to the nine
points that is
Holiness saying that I have
breached the cannon laws of the church
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mobile phone what does that got to do
with
church Cal can
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laws assessment of the accusations
according to church law number
one his Holiness is saying that marari
is supposedly not allowed to live with
his
mother he's not allowed to to live with
his mother according to the canon law of
the church I'm not allowed to live with
my mother I have to live in the church
premises well here is the reply to that
point the Council of
NAA the Council of NAA and the first
Universal Council of the United
Christian Church
convened by
Emperor Constantine the Great in the
year 325 ad in the third rule of the
council it is
stated the great Council has forbidden
generally any bishop or presor or Deacon
and anyone else among those in the
clergy the privilege of having a house
made unless she is either a mother
or a sister or an aunt or a person above
suspicion Canon 3 of the first Universal
Council of NAA I can live with my mom
because the Nan the n and canon law is
universal for Catholic Orthodox all
churches all
churches and I'm not sure if it's a
crime to live with
Mom number
two that marari must supposedly attend
every morning and evening prayer in
public on a daily basis in the
church his Holiness is saying that I am
not attending prayers evening and
Mornings in the church on a daily basis
I have breached the Canon laws of the
church the second second Council this is
a reply to it the second Council of
Constantinople declares in rule
80 that a clergy man can only be held
accountable if he is missing from the
services I.E Holy Mass not daily
praise if he be a clerk let him be
deposed from office but if he be a
Layman let him be removed from communion
Canon 80 of the second Council of
Constantinople but there is nothing
mentioned if he's a clergyman let him be
deposed from the church no
mention and that's only if he misses the
Holy Mass 3 weeks in a row I never
have number
three the accusation is that marari
cannot wear the beruna or head
covering the baruna this is the reply
the baruna is a very or head covering is
a very important head covering and it
was also worn by the Assyrian holy monks
of History like St a Aram St aim the
great St Isaac of ninev and countless
others of our beloved
Church there is nothing odd or
unacceptable about this because it is
the ancient practice of The Universal
Church
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another allegation that marari is
forbidden to use images of saints in his
leaflets or in
church to clarify this point my
beloveds marari is not the first clergy
men to use images in leaflets or in
church premises as previously and until
now has been seen the use of images and
also
statues let them take the statue of the
holy mother from the church of mother
Mary in
Melbourne and let them take all the
pictures and icons of saints and crosses
in the magazine that comes from Baghdad
Iraq itself where the patriarch
resides under the name of UPA The
Horizon
why is marmari now all of a sudden a law
breaker another another accusation that
marmari is is forbidden to run a charity
to help those in
need there is nothing now listen to this
there is nothing in church
law that forbids charity
funds none whatsoever because
Jesus he gave his life as a
charity to
win souls for eternal
life he sacrificed his
life there is nothing in church law that
forbids charity
funds another
accusation that marari is forbidden from
being in church hall for tea or coffee
after Bible preach so-called dinners and
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parties there is nothing in church law
it is not a cannon law what does that
got to do with having a
coffee there is nothing in church law to
validate this accusation in fact
Servants of the word and of the table is
biblical my beloved refer to the book of
Acts 6: 2
it's biblical if
anything another accusation that marari
is forbidden to use words of endearment
to members of his Parish especially
women do you know what endearment
means these kind of
words words of endearment are part of
Australian culture
anyway and they do not reflect any real
relationship but are used even to
complete to complete but are used even
to complete strangers to show politeness
and kindness of heart there is nothing
wrong with calling people darling
sweetie or any such other term God calls
us to be loving honorable human beings
not to be coldhearted miserable
wretches another accusation that marari
is forbidden to take his flock on tours
to Jerusalem or to wave the Australian
flag with them in the lanes in the lanes
of the holy
city there is nothing absolutely nothing
in church law that forbids a bishop from
taking his flock on a guided T through
the holy city and the holy shrines of
Jerusalem number nine and the last
accusation that marari is forbidden to
use a mobile phone and an
earphone there is nothing
there is nothing in the church law that
forbids a bishop from using Mo modern
technology such as mobile phones or
earphones in order to communicate with
his flock or to fulfill his duties as a
bishop
also also as a health hazard placing the
mobile phone on one's ear can lead to
health problems
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