Ayn Rand & Karl Marx, Key Differences - EXPLAINED
Summary
TLDRIn this video transcript, the speaker discusses the parallels between the philosophy of Ayn Rand and Marxism, emphasizing the importance of individual morality in shaping economic systems. They critique the lack of true capitalism in the U.S., arguing that regulations and government programs distort the free market. The speaker also addresses the issue of child labor, asserting that it historically declines with economic development and capitalism, contrary to the narrative that capitalism inherently exploits children.
Takeaways
- 🤔 The speaker discusses parallels between the philosophy of Ayn Rand and Marxism/Communism, noting that both philosophies believe in the moral actions of individuals leading to societal benefits.
- 🏭 The speaker contrasts the views of Marx, who admired the factory system as a modern miracle, with Rand's belief in the moral benefits of a free economy.
- 👶 The issue of child labor is raised, with the speaker arguing that capitalism has historically reduced child labor as societies become wealthier and parents can afford to keep their children out of the workforce.
- 💡 The speaker emphasizes that every political system is based on some form of morality, but not all moralities are equal in promoting human life.
- 🚫 The speaker criticizes the current state of the United States, arguing that it is not true capitalism due to the presence of government intervention and welfare programs.
- 🌎 The speaker asserts that the closer a society gets to pure Marxism, the more death and destruction it experiences, citing examples like the Soviet Union and China.
- 💰 The speaker argues that capitalism, when practiced closer to its ideal form, leads to increased wealth, longer life spans, and reduced poverty.
- 🏛️ The speaker refutes the idea that capitalism inherently leads to negative outcomes like pollution and lack of regulation, instead suggesting that these are symptoms of a mixed economy, not pure capitalism.
- 📚 The speaker points out that children historically worked on farms and in factories, and it was only with the rise of capitalism and increased productivity that children were able to stop working and attend school.
- 🌾 The speaker argues against the romanticization of pre-capitalist societies, stating that children worked out of necessity and high mortality rates.
- 🔄 The speaker suggests that nationalization and socialism have consistently failed, and privatization leads to success and growth in industries.
Q & A
What is the main similarity between the philosophies of Ayn Rand and Marxism according to the speaker?
-The main similarity is that both philosophies are based on the premise that if people act morally, they will make decisions that benefit both themselves and others.
What does the speaker argue about the morality in different political systems?
-The speaker argues that every political system is based on some form of morality or ethics, but not all moralities are the same; some promote human life while others destroy it.
Why does the speaker reject the morality of Marxism?
-The speaker rejects the morality of Marxism because it rejects individual sovereignty, denies the individual's ability to make decisions for their own life, and ultimately leads to a dictatorship where the state decides for you.
What does the speaker believe about the current state of the economy in the United States?
-The speaker believes that the United States does not have a true capitalist system, but rather a mixed economy with elements of socialism and capitalism, which they describe as 'rotten'.
What is the speaker's view on the relationship between child labor and capitalism?
-The speaker argues that child labor has historically been a part of life in poor societies, and it is only when societies become wealthy enough through capitalism that children are no longer required to work, thus improving their quality of life.
According to the speaker, what is the outcome of implementing Marxist policies in various countries?
-The speaker claims that the implementation of Marxist policies has historically led to death, destruction, and famine on a large scale, citing examples like the Soviet Union and China.
What does the speaker suggest is the alternative for children if sweatshops in poor countries are shut down?
-The speaker suggests that if sweatshops are shut down, the alternative for children in poor countries is often poverty, as there are no schools or government support to provide for their education or well-being.
What does the speaker believe about the role of government programs in a capitalist society?
-The speaker believes that in a true capitalist society, there should be no government programs such as welfare, social security, Medicare, or Medicaid, as these are forms of intervention and not part of pure capitalism.
How does the speaker describe the impact of privatization on industries?
-The speaker describes the impact of privatization as overwhelmingly positive, stating that industries thrive when they are privatized, in contrast to when they are nationalized and often fail.
What is the speaker's view on the criticism of child labor in poor countries by people from wealthy backgrounds?
-The speaker criticizes this perspective, stating that it is often people from wealthy backgrounds who do not understand the harsh realities of life in poor countries and why children must work to survive.
What does the speaker suggest is the reason for the persistence of socialist ideas despite historical failures?
-The speaker suggests that the persistence of socialist ideas is due to a lack of self-esteem and confidence in people's ability to live for themselves, and a belief that others cannot survive without state intervention.
Outlines
🤔 Philosophical Parallels and Capitalism's Morality
The speaker initiates a discussion on the philosophical similarities between Ann Rand's views and Marxism, noting that both philosophies propose that moral actions lead to benefits for individuals and society. They contrast Rand's advocacy for a free economy with Marx's vision of a collective good, pointing out the disparities in outcomes such as child labor and pollution due to lack of regulation. The speaker challenges the notion of deregulation in the face of apparent moral failings, suggesting that the current state of capitalism leads to discontent and a superficial freedom to consume, rather than a substantive freedom.
📚 Capitalism vs. Socialism: Impact on Life and Child Labor
The speaker refutes the notion that capitalism equates to the current socio-economic systems, arguing that true capitalism involves minimal state intervention and emphasizes private property and the rule of law. They compare the outcomes of socialist policies to those of capitalistic ones, asserting that the former often results in death and destruction, while the latter correlates with increased wealth and life expectancy. The discussion then shifts to child labor, with the speaker arguing that children historically worked due to necessity and high mortality rates. They claim that it is only during periods of economic prosperity, brought about by capitalism, that child labor decreases, as parents can afford to keep their children out of the workforce and in education.
💡 The Myth of Child Labor and the Reality of Economic Prosperity
Continuing the debate, the speaker dismantles the myth that capitalism inherently causes child labor, asserting that it is poverty, not economic systems, that forces children into work. They explain that as countries reach a certain GDP per capita, child labor naturally declines as parents can afford to provide for their children without requiring their labor. The speaker also addresses the misconception that shutting down sweatshops would benefit children in poor countries, arguing that without alternative educational or employment opportunities, this action could lead to increased poverty. The conclusion emphasizes the importance of understanding the economic context and the role of capitalism in reducing child labor and improving living standards.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Philosophy of Ayn Rand
💡Marxism
💡Communism
💡Capitalism
💡Regulation
💡Morality
💡Freedom
💡Self-interest
💡Child Labor
💡Socialism
💡Nationalization
💡Privatization
💡Empirical Evidence
Highlights
The comparison between the philosophies of Ayn Rand and Marxism, emphasizing the role of morality in both systems.
Ayn Rand's view that a moral free economy benefits both the business creator and society as a whole.
Marx's perspective on the factory as a modern miracle and the potential benefits of a moral society working for the common good.
The critique of deregulation leading to negative consequences such as child labor and environmental pollution.
The argument that the current capitalist system does not reflect the true principles of capitalism as defined by Ayn Rand.
The distinction between the moral philosophies of Ayn Rand and Karl Marx, and their impact on individual freedom.
The claim that every political ecosystem is based on a moral code, which influences the system's structure and outcomes.
The assertion that the United States does not practice true capitalism, but rather a mixed economy.
The historical context of child labor and its relation to economic development and societal wealth.
The assertion that child labor decreases as a country's GDP per capita increases, leading to legislation against it.
The argument that shutting down sweatshops in poor countries can lead to increased poverty and a lack of alternatives for children.
The discussion on the failure of state nationalization of industries and the success of privatization.
The critique of the middle class and wealthy individuals' perspective on child labor without understanding the context of poverty.
The call for self-esteem and confidence in individuals to live for themselves without relying on state intervention.
The final remarks on the importance of supporting the Iran Brook show and engaging with the content.
Transcripts
yes um well first of all thank you for
coming here very interesting
so when I think of the philosophy of Ann
ran and what the speakers have said
today I I can't but think about the
parallels with Marxism and communism
because both say people if they act
morally
will make decisions that will benefit
themselves and others
so Ann ran says if everybody is moral
then this free economy will not only
bring benefits to the person creating a
business but also I'm a student to
everyone else sure Marx also says
the greatest miracle in the modern world
is the factory greater than the pyramids
itself and he comes to a different
conclusion and if we're all moral we can
all work for the common good and the
working class who actually provides the
labor will benefit so my question to you
is we right now in some economies
have freedom from regulations
some of them I know you want more I just
I'll be honest I would want less and we
see for example child labor
until very recently child labor was
common
right now in the United States which I
think you're from there was a big train
derailment for a lack of regulations and
people in a town are suffering pollution
owner is allowed to do what they want
they might be doing more
now you can argue they don't have the
morality that Anne Rand is talking about
by making decisions that are in the best
interest of everyone but you it seems
like you're advocating to remove
regulation when this morality doesn't
exist and the result is death and often
poverty and people are very discontent
with the current states of capitalism
right now because it is hard to afford
things and the freedom that they have is
just the freedom to consume and choose
between various tastes of ice cream or
makeup so I find that to be kind of the
kind of the comments here because our
capitalist system causes people to bang
in the streets and the young man who
said oh I want to help this person but
that is the reality of what we see and
we also see in the United States with
homeless encampments sure
oh wait there's a lot there
um so let me try to let me try to unpack
this a little bit one
yes there uh is it there is a similarity
between Marxism and Iran in the sense
that both systems are based on morality
I think every system in the world is
based on some model code some ethics
that's true Marxism that's true of every
single idea but some moralities are true
in some moralities are false some
moralities actually promote human life
in some moralities destroy human life
um the morality that I ran bases her
ideas on is a very different morality
than Marx bases his ideas on and I will
take Iran any day over Marx and pretty
much over anybody else for a couple of
reasons one Marx's morality rejects the
individual denies the individual denies
the individual any sovereignty you don't
have a say in your own life ultimately
the proletarian decide for you what you
do the positivity decides for you what
is truth there is the dictators of the
palitarian in which you don't get to
make decisions for yourself
that's you know and secondly again why
should I sacrifice other people why not
live for yourself there is no ultimate
answer to the to the to that question
let me get to the child they haven't
finished believe me we'll get to the
child
um so so to begin with I don't expect
anybody to sacrifice for me and I don't
I will not sacrifice for anybody else
that is a moral code that results in
Freedom in in a capitalist in a
capitalist version
so morality always leads to a certain
political system you cannot have a
political ecosystem with no morality
every political ecosystem assumes
something about a mall code
and I'm arguing that I'm all code of
Marxism the Marco's of status and the
moral code that exist today in America
and the mall code that exists today in
in Colombia All Along because they're
not I'm random consequence we have
political systems that are huggable that
are bad that are wrong that Iran Rejects
and I reject
which brings me to the question about
but what about America well first
put aside the morality of America we
don't have capitalism in America
you people like to call anything they
don't like capitalism but the reality is
what is capitalism actually mean
capitalism means a separation of States
from economics capitalism means a system
where the econ the state doesn't
regulate some the state the state
doesn't regulate at all
not capitalism means
private property the rule of law the
protection of contracts and no
regulations
no intervention by the government
if you allow intervention then it's a
mixed economy some socialism some
capitalism in capitalism there's no
welfare state in capitalism there's no
social security Medicare Medicaid and a
million other government programs that
they're there to facility now I know the
common definition dictionary definition
of capitalism is
describes everything in the world today
but that's not the capitalism I Iran
talks about it's not the capitalism I
talk about the system in the United
States today is rotten
it's better than a lot of other places
but it's rotten
but let me just make this comparison
with Marx because you brought Marxism in
the closer we get to Marx
the more people die
not just kids working we'll get to kids
working in a minute but literally kids
dying by the tens of Millions
that's the Soviet Union
that's China indeed every country in the
world that is socialized farming that is
socialized fruit production suffers from
famines and death and destruction just
look at Venezuela right now
socialism kills and it kills in large
numbers
now the Socialists always say well we've
never tried it fully we've never gotten
it right
but the closer you get to it the more
death and destruction there is
capitalism on the other hand the closer
we get we've never really achieved it
but the closer we get the more wealth
the longer life
the the the most successful people are
and indeed the fewer people die of
starvation the fewer people the poor
people they are and I even will argue
the fewer children uh work
but let's talk a little bit about uh uh
child labor one of my favorite topics
what did children do before capitalism
what do children do 500 years ago
they worked we prayed children played
the children didn't play they walked on
the farm and and and parents would have
10 12 children why did why do we have so
many children back there
one because they needed to work but B
what was the other reason we had so many
children back then they died half of
them didn't make the age 10. 50 of
children didn't make the age of 10. she
had a lot of children so the few would
survive so they would be cheap label on
your farm
children have always worked when did
children stop working
only one period in all of human history
in that hundred thousand years of human
history children stopped working only
once
you're going to answer the question
that's
so so
so so
let me answer the question because that
is that is that is complete mythology
now there's let me finish let me
know
I haven't answered
it's complete nonsense
every single country if you look at the
countries in the world when they reach a
certain GDP per capita
and when children are no longer working
in factories governments pass laws to
exclude children this happened in
England it happened in the United States
it's happening right now in Indonesia
and Malaysia and Asia when parents can
afford to keep the kids from work if
they can afford to send them to school
then they pull them out of the workplace
they send them to school and the
government then takes the credit for it
after the fact by passing a law check
your history
I you can see this in every single
country it's always at the certain at
this at the same GDP per capita oh is it
to some the same place there's a there's
a little book just about child labor and
sweatshops
um by um from Texas Tech University uh
I'll think of his name in a minute but
that documents empirically the exact
relationship between child labor and
when the laws pass and what happens the
the reality is the children have always
worked they stop working when capitalism
makes them so productive that they now
make enough money to be able to feed
their children without the child working
because what happens if today you shut
down uh sweatshops in poor countries
what happens to those kids what's the
alternative instead of working what's
the alternative for them
there is no schools the governments
don't have enough money to pay for the
schools there are no schools in these
places so what would they do
star yeah that that's a that's a route
to Poverty very very fast and Speedy
route Department you see how the
mythology survive it is fascinating to
see how in spite of all the empirical
evidence in spite of all the history of
the last 100 250 years in spite of the
fact that socialism and nationalization
have been disastrous every single time
they've been tried every single time
they've been tried we still latch onto
them because we don't have the
self-esteem and the confidence to
believe we can live for ourselves we
don't have the self-esteem and
confidence to believe that maybe you
believe that you can live for yourself
but oh no those other idiots out there
they can't they can't survive if if the
state doesn't help them God forbid we
leave them alone to live for themselves
you you know much better how other
people should live than they know about
their own life so you want to dictate
their life for them but every single
example of State nationalization of
Industries has failed empirically just
ask Francois who was the Socialist
president of France in the 1980s and who
nationalized the entire banking system
and four years later I had to
re-privatize them because it was such a
disaster as the kid would see him in
Israel who were these beautiful
socialized farming communities that seem
to be incredibly successful until it was
discovered that they were completely
subsidized by the government and as soon
as the subsidies ended they all failed
and today the Nokia would see him in
Israel you can go industry after
industry after industry when they're
nationalized they fail they die they
disappear you want a success look what
happens when you privatize Industries
then they go through the roof but the
reality is the child labor is what
happens when we're poor as soon as
parents get rich enough we pull our
children out of Labor and the
alternative children have is to walk or
to die
and it's only Rich middle class people
from relatively wealthy backgrounds and
Wealthy countries who sit back on their
nice cushy Sofas in comfortable
countries who think oh my God those kids
shouldn't work over there really I you
know my kids don't work so they could
just didn't work without having any
concept of what life is like in these
countries and why these kids have to
work in order to survive
I'm sure there are parts of the question
I didn't answer but yes
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