Financial Independence Without Becoming a YouTuber

Stephen Antonioni
15 May 202328:33

Summary

TLDRThe speaker challenges the notion that financial independence is only achievable by high-income earners like YouTubers or entrepreneurs. Sharing his personal journey, he details how he pursued financial independence on a modest salary, emphasizing the importance of saving and investing. He critiques common financial independence strategies, pointing out flaws in assumptions about investment returns and living expenses. The speaker advocates for a broader view of wealth that includes personal growth, experiences, and relationships, suggesting that financial independence is just one path to a fulfilling life.

Takeaways

  • 😀 The speaker emphasizes that financial independence is achievable without being a YouTuber or entrepreneur, as they pursued it on a modest income.
  • 🚀 The speaker started their financial independence journey with an annual income of around $40,000 CAD, highlighting it's possible to begin with limited means.
  • 💼 Initially working as a financial advisor, the speaker found the industry unsatisfactory, which is a reminder that one's career path can change.
  • 📊 The script details the importance of tracking income, expenses, savings rate, and investment returns for a clear path to financial independence.
  • 🏠 Living a frugal lifestyle early on allowed the speaker to save a significant portion of their income, demonstrating the impact of living expenses on savings.
  • 📈 A career progression led to increased income and savings, but the speaker also moved in with a partner to reduce costs, showing the benefits of shared living.
  • 🤔 The speaker critically examines the FIRE (Financial Independence, Retire Early) movement, pointing out that it may not be feasible or desirable for everyone.
  • 💡 The script introduces the concept of the 'four percent rule' for retirement, which is a common strategy in the FIRE community for sustainable withdrawals.
  • 🔄 The speaker acknowledges the unpredictability of investment returns and the challenges of sticking to a strict budget, which can complicate financial independence plans.
  • 💰 The importance of income is underscored, as it scales differently than expenses and is a key factor in achieving financial independence.
  • 🌟 The speaker concludes that while financial independence is a valuable goal, personal growth, experiences, and relationships are equally, if not more, important forms of wealth.

Q & A

  • What is the main question the speaker aims to address in the video?

    -The main question is whether financial independence is possible for people who are not YouTubers or entrepreneurs with high incomes.

  • What were the speaker's earnings when they began pursuing financial independence?

    -The speaker was earning around $40,000 per year in Canadian dollars, which left them with approximately $3,000 per month after tax.

  • What two reasons does the speaker give for discussing financial independence?

    -The first reason is that the speaker started pursuing financial independence years before becoming a YouTuber. The second reason is the feedback from the audience expressing frustration with financial independence advice that seems unrealistic for those not in high-income internet-based careers.

Outlines

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🤔 The Myth of Financial Independence for the Average Person

The speaker begins by challenging the common notion that financial independence is only achievable for high-income individuals like YouTubers or entrepreneurs. They share their personal journey towards financial independence, starting with a modest salary as a financial advisor in training. The speaker highlights their initial annual income of around forty thousand Canadian dollars, which equated to a monthly post-tax income of approximately three thousand dollars. They emphasize that financial independence is a realistic goal for many, contrary to what is often portrayed in media, and they aim to address the common frustrations and difficulties faced by viewers who do not belong to high-income professions.

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💼 Early Career Progression and Financial Planning

The speaker discusses their career progression from a financial advisor in training to higher positions with increased compensation, eventually reaching an annual income of around 70,000 dollars plus a pension matching program. They detail how their savings rate increased as their income grew, allowing them to save significant amounts each month. The speaker also shares their early attempts at financial planning, including projections of future income, expenses, savings, and investment returns, aiming for a total wealth of one million dollars after 16 years. They critique the assumptions made in their early financial models, such as a constant 7% annual return on investments and living off 40,000 dollars per year, pointing out the flaws and unpredictability in these projections.

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🏦 The Impact of Banking Choices on Financial Growth

The speaker recounts their experience with a traditional bank that offered minimal interest on deposits and charged fees, which hindered their financial growth. They then highlight the benefits of switching to Neo's money account, which offers a higher interest rate, no fees, and additional perks like a cash back debit card and credit card. The speaker praises Neo for its CDIC insurance and the positive impact it has had on their financial journey. They also mention a referral program for Neo, encouraging viewers to sign up for the service.

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🚶‍♂️ Embracing a Minimalist Lifestyle for Financial Independence

The speaker delves into the extreme lifestyle changes they made to achieve financial independence, such as living on a very tight budget, biking to work, and maintaining a minimalist daily routine. They acknowledge that their approach to life, which includes a lack of material possessions and a focus on simplicity, is not the norm and may not be suitable for everyone. The speaker also addresses the limitations of living on a small amount of money and the challenges of adhering to such a strict lifestyle.

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👥 The Complexities of Shared Life and Financial Goals

The speaker reflects on the complexities that arise when building a life with a partner, as opposed to living alone. They discuss the book 'Die with Zero' and how it influenced their views on spending money on experiences before the age of 40, as these can lead to more enriching life experiences. The speaker also acknowledges that their personal philosophy and approach to financial independence have evolved over time, moving away from the idea of wealth as solely a bank account balance to a more holistic understanding of wealth as personal growth and experiences.

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💼 The Overlooked Importance of Income in Achieving Financial Independence

The speaker argues that the key to financial independence is not just about saving and cutting expenses, but significantly increasing income. They point out that while expenses have a natural limit, income has the potential to scale much higher. The speaker criticizes the financial independence community for focusing too much on small savings instead of advocating for income growth. They also touch on societal issues, such as the challenges faced by nurses and other essential workers, and the broader implications of a society where fulfilling one's career and financial aspirations are increasingly difficult.

💭 Redefining Wealth and Financial Independence

In the final paragraph, the speaker shares their evolving perspective on wealth, which now encompasses personal growth, experiences, resilience, and relationships, rather than just monetary value. They acknowledge the limitations of the financial independence (FI) philosophy for the average person but also recognize its value as an entry point for learning about money and personal empowerment. The speaker concludes by advocating for 'fundamental independence' as a more holistic and attainable goal than traditional financial independence.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Financial Independence

Financial Independence refers to the state of having enough savings and investments to cover all living expenses without the need for active employment, allowing one the freedom to retire early or pursue other interests. In the video's theme, it is the ultimate goal that the speaker initially pursued and later reevaluated. The script discusses the difficulty of achieving this through traditional employment and the importance of both income and savings.

💡YouTuber

A YouTuber is an individual who creates and shares video content on the YouTube platform, often as a means to generate income through advertising, sponsorships, and other revenue streams. The script mentions YouTubers as a common example of people who seem to achieve financial independence, but also acknowledges that not everyone can or wants to follow this path.

💡Entrepreneur

An entrepreneur is a person who organizes and operates a business, taking on financial risks in order to do so, with the hope of making a profit. The term is used in the script to describe another group of people often associated with achieving financial independence, through starting and growing their own businesses.

💡High Income

High income refers to earning a substantial amount of money, which can be a key factor in achieving financial independence more quickly. The script emphasizes the importance of high income as a means to accumulate wealth faster and the challenges faced by those with average or lower incomes to reach financial independence.

💡Savings Rate

The savings rate is the proportion of income that is saved rather than spent. In the context of the video, the speaker discusses his own savings rate in the early stages of his career and how it contributed to his journey towards financial independence.

💡Investment Return

Investment return refers to the profit or loss derived from buying and selling securities such as stocks, bonds, or property. The script discusses the importance of investment returns in growing one's wealth and the challenges of relying on a fixed percentage return, such as the commonly cited 7% average annual return.

💡Four Percent Rule

The Four Percent Rule is a guideline used in financial planning that suggests you can withdraw 4% of your savings during retirement without significantly depleting your capital over a 30-year period. The script uses this rule to illustrate the point at which the speaker believed he could achieve financial independence.

💡Expenses

Expenses are the costs incurred to maintain one's lifestyle, including housing, food, transportation, and other necessities. The video discusses the need to keep expenses in check and how they relate to the concept of financial independence, particularly in the context of living on a fixed retirement budget.

💡Income Scaling

Income scaling refers to the potential for income to increase over time, often related to career progression or business growth. The script points out that income has a greater capacity to scale than expenses do, making it a critical factor in achieving financial independence.

💡FIRE Movement

FIRE stands for 'Financial Independence, Retire Early' and is a movement that encourages aggressive saving and investing to achieve financial independence at a young age. The speaker reflects on his own experience with the FIRE movement and the limitations he perceives in its approach for the average person.

💡Neo Money Account

Neo Money Account is a financial product mentioned in the script that offers features such as high-interest savings, no fees, and cash back. It is used as an example of a better financial tool that can help individuals increase their savings rate and grow their wealth more effectively.

Highlights

Financial Independence is often discussed by high-income earners like YouTubers or entrepreneurs, but it's also possible for those with more traditional jobs and lower incomes.

The speaker started pursuing Financial Independence on a modest salary of CAD 40,000 per year, emphasizing that high earnings are not a prerequisite.

The initial monthly savings rate was around CAD 700, demonstrating that even with a small income, saving is possible.

A significant salary increase to CAD 47,500 allowed for nearly doubling the monthly savings.

The importance of living expenses and how they can be managed to increase savings, even on a modest income.

The role of a pension matching program in boosting total compensation and savings potential.

A projection model for financial independence based on a 5% annual income increase and a 7% annual return on investments.

The four percent rule in financial independence planning, allowing for a sustainable withdrawal rate from savings.

The speaker's realization of the impracticality of living on a fixed amount of money without considering lifestyle inflation.

The limitations of relying on traditional banking with low-interest rates and high fees, and the benefits of switching to a high-interest money account.

The unpredictability of stock market returns and the impact on financial independence planning.

The challenge of adhering to a minimalist lifestyle to achieve financial independence, which may not be suitable for everyone.

The idea that financial independence might require deviating from societal norms and the potential difficulty of this for most people.

The importance of income in achieving financial independence, and how increasing income can be more impactful than reducing expenses.

The societal implications of people leaving essential roles due to low income and the impact on the broader community.

A shift in perspective on wealth, viewing it as more than just monetary and including personal growth and experiences.

The concept of 'fundamental independence' as a more holistic approach to life, beyond just financial independence.

Transcripts

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it seems like everybody talking about

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financial Independence is a full-time

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YouTuber or an entrepreneur of some sort

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right essentially someone with a high

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income but you might be watching these

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videos thinking well I'm not that

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because most people aren't YouTubers or

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entrepreneurs although sometimes it

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seems that way today so it begs the

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question is financial Independence

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something that is possible for folks who

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watch these videos or is it just a bunch

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of BS I wanted to try and answer this

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question with you today for two reasons

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the first reason is that I started

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pursuing Financial Independence years

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before I started a YouTube channel when

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I began my journey I was making

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something like forty thousand dollars

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per year Canadian dollars which left me

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with something like three thousand

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dollars per month after tax we'll talk

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more about the details of my journey

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later on what I think it means for you

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but for now I just want to make it very

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clear that for me in my case YouTube is

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something that came later and that in

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the beginning I was starting pretty

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small so I'll speak to that the second

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reason is because after releasing my

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most recent video where I was pretty

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critical of the fire movement it was

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really interesting for me to see you all

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sharing your different experiences and

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thoughts pertaining to this and one

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theme that kept consistently coming up I

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noticed is the frustration and

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difficulty many of you were feeling who

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were not working in an internet money

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career path which is the case for most

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people right you felt like the things

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YouTubers talked about sometimes were

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just pipe dreams for you I would like to

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explore whether or not you may be right

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to feel that way actually no I'm gonna

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spoil it a little bit right now by

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saying yes you absolutely are right to

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feel that way and if you want to stick

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around and chat with me today I think

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you'll hear a few different things in

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perspectives than you may have heard

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before so let's start this dialogue by

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heading back to the beginning when I was

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an even younger man on the cusp of this

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financial Voyage several years ago I

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landed my first real job as a financial

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advisor in training at a investment firm

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and like I said earlier if I remember

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correctly my base pay was somewhere

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around forty thousand dollars per year

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which left me with something like maybe

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twenty seven hundred dollars after taxes

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per month and I went into this job

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because I was thinking hey I'm gonna be

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able to help people learn about and

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manage their money and maybe even teach

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them about financial Independence this

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is this is going to be great

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yeah no no no no no no no no it was not

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this industry is just a complete sham

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anyway many of you already know this

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story so let's not get sidetracked today

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I'd like to take you through a bunch of

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numbers here so just bear with me I

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think it'll actually be really

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illustrative and interesting so we're

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going to be going over the green section

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here first and to quickly explain what

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we're looking at the green section was

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essentially the period of time that I

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actually experienced working in this

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kind of more traditional career path and

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then later on we're going to move into

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the orange section which is the

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projections that I made out at that time

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into the future and to quickly explain

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what we have here going left to right we

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have annual income monthly after tax

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income monthly expenses my savings rate

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how much has been saved and invested and

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then the return on that investment and

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then if we combine those two we get the

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total wealth column which again is just

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equal to the investment column so that's

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all the money I'd saved and invested and

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then plus the return on investment

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column as that obviously increases the

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amount that you have invested so in the

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first year my expenses at the time would

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have been somewhere around two thousand

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dollars rent was about 1300 where I was

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living and at this time I walked to work

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I ate simple but really healthy meals I

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had a gym in my building I had a yoga

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membership but other than that I

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basically lived you know a very simple

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lifestyle and spent very little money on

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anything else so at the time that

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resulted in about six or seven hundred

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ish let's say in savings per month which

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worked out to somewhere around eight

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thousand dollars per year

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it's not exactly what it takes to retire

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early but it's also not nothing now some

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of you at this point may be hearing that

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two thousand dollars per month number in

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expenses and thinking like how the hell

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are you how the hell did you do that

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that's that's crazy low we'll come back

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to this it's very very important to talk

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about and maybe not for the reason that

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you think now fortunately later that

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year I jumped ship into a new job with a

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starting salary of around 47 500 which

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bumped my income up to about thirty two

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hundred dollars per month after tax so

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now I could save almost double what I

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was before so bumping my total savings

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per year up to about ten thousand

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dollars again not exactly early

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retirement worthy but I was pretty happy

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with this this was a very meaningful

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number to me now eventually working at

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this new job I would move through the

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ranks kind of progress in my career

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I guess sort of quickly considering how

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a few years actually elapsed but

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basically my total compensation went all

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the way up to around 70 000 per year

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plus a pension matching program and this

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punching pension matching program was a

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pre-tax benefit so it's gonna make the

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after tax monthly amount look a bit

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weird here by the way now at this point

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in my life I had moved to a new location

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um and because of my job so this had a

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higher cost of living associated with it

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but at this point I had also moved in

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with my partner which uh as you know for

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anyone who's done it if you're splitting

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costs equally it can greatly reduce the

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amount of monthly expenses that you have

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so now between my income and my expenses

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I was able to save really significant

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money and this is basically where I left

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things at before I decided to start a

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YouTube now let's turn our attention to

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the orange section of the sheet and

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remember I said that if we went back in

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time this would be what I was projecting

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out into the future after that three

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year mark that we have covered in the

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green section and this is projecting it

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out into the future if I was continuing

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to work at my old job so essentially

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what I've done is I basically tried to

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model out my entire trajectory towards

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Financial Independence in a way that

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I've simplified here so I've basically

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used a few basic assumptions that would

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then show me what would happen if the

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future played out like that so for

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example I assumed my income would

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increase by about five percent per year

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which would give me an income of about a

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hundred and thirty thousand dollars

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after working for 16 years which I

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thought was pretty reasonable given the

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trajectory that I was on and I also

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decided to apply the same as assumption

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to my expenses as well because my

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thought process was that I would only

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allow my expenses to increase to the

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degree that my income did to try and

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keep kind of a constant ratio between

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those two things and then for my

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investments I assumed the often quoted

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seven percent annual return which left

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me with a total wealth of about one

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million dollars at that 16-year Mark now

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this is a very important point in time

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because this was the point at which I

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thought my journey to financial

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Independence would be considered

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completed why because at this point in

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time you would reach a very significant

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Point using something called the four

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percent rule with which many of you will

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be familiar with if you're at all

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familiar with the the fire movement

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basically you can withdraw four percent

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of your total wealth and live off that

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so once that four percent number equals

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your expenses you can be financially

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independent and in my case I thought

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that if I had a million dollars I could

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withdraw forty thousand dollars per year

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and that would be good for me so as a 22

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year old kid or something whenever I

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decided to kind of make this plan and

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model everything out that all sounded

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pretty good to me right I just needed to

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hit that million dollar Mark live off

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forty thousand dollars per year I would

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be set 16 years and I Steven Antonio

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will be a free man well actually you see

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here young Steven

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um there's a few problems with that

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actually quite a few problems and if you

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would allow me I would like to take you

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through several of those and then point

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out what I think are the biggest ones

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and the first of these problems was that

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this young man was not using Neo the

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sponsor of today's video obviously I'm

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joking but I'm also kind of not because

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at this point in my life I was banking

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with a bank that only gave me something

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like

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0.01 interest on my deposits it charged

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me ten dollars per month to use my

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accounts and just other garbage features

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in general that was essentially costing

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me a pretty good amount of money and not

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really doing anything to benefit me

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fortunately back in 2021 I switched to

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start using Neo's money account which

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now earns me 2.25 percent interest on my

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money has zero monthly or annual fees

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unlimited free e-transfers and also

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comes with a high cash back debit card

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that I can use to spend money out of the

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account as well as withdraw cash from

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ATMs they also have their no annual fee

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High cash back credit card which I

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personally use as by main credit card

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because that is pretty much just an

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unbeatable combination no annual fee

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High cash back you can't really go wrong

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and of course using Neo your money is

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guaranteed by cdic Insurance up to a

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hundred thousand dollars just like it

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would be at any major bank so in my mind

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there was absolutely no reason not to

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switch and a whole bunch of reasons to

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switch and I have never looked back

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since if you go to the link in my

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description you can sign up for the

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money account and get 25 added to your

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account when you deposit at least fifty

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dollars and you can also get 25 if you

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decide to open up the Neo credit card as

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well and by the way Neo has a referral

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program which you can use which means

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that if you sign up you decide you like

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it you get that fifty dollars and then

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you can refer your friends family

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whoever spread the love around and

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everybody can continue to earn more of

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those fifty dollars and with that said

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Thank you to Neo for sponsoring this

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video and for being a continuing

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supporter of my work okay so in addition

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to the problem of not being signed up

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with Neo we have also have a critical

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flaw in the investment return assumption

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here because you hear all the time that

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the stock market returns something like

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seven percent per year right but if we

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actually look at how the stock market

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performs we can see that it does not

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return seven percent per year it

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actually basically never returns seven

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percent per year you see that quote that

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everybody uses is they're talking about

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seven percent as an average but in

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reality the returns from one year to the

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other they're all over the place so

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given that we know that what if I

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changed the sequence of returns here to

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not be just seven percent every year but

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to actually be a random sporadic

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sequence of returns that we actually

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experience in reality well we can see

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that in this case I've changed the

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numbers to include a few drawdowns and

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it's actually added an extra three years

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to this plan now don't get too caught up

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on that three years specifically the

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point isn't that oh no I'll be three

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years late exactly the point is that a

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we definitely can't predict the future

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and B it almost certainly won't be a

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clean seven percent from one year to the

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next so reality will almost certainly

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not follow our projections now what

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other flaws do we have

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perhaps we should talk about that forty

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thousand dollar assumption the

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assumption that I was going to be living

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off of only 40K per year to many people

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that is going to sound Preposterous

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mortgage car payments Insurance Health

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Care kids socializing entertainment

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Hobbies traveling

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Etc all with the inflated values of

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today yeah good luck with that ah but of

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course now as soon as you start saying

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this a certain type of people will start

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coming out of the woodwork and telling

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you well of course it's possible of

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course it's possible Steve you can live

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off forty thousand dollars per year just

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use maybe some Geo geographical

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Arbitrage why don't you go move to

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Thailand move to Indonesia well yes but

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have you considered if somebody does not

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want to live in Thailand imagine that it

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looks gorgeous I've heard great things I

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love the food the martial arts really

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cool and I plan to visit but live there

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probably not for me and for many of you

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watching I would think that the answer

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is probably the same yes you're you're

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living where you live presumably because

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you want to live there oh Steve but what

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about what about budgeting what about

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money saving hacks and tips what about

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living a simple life what about what

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about what about there really is no what

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about

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the truth about living off of a very

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small amount of money is that you

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essentially have to accept living a very

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extreme lifestyle relative to most

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people yes people have and do do it I'm

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very aware you don't have to list the

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success stories in the comments okay you

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can take your fingers off of the

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keyboard after all I'm one of those

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people but this is where I think the

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fire movement falls apart for most

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people who are consumers and not

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producers of fire related media so I

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didn't need to move to Thailand I lived

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off of around two thousand dollars per

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month in Toronto an area with a very

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high cost of living and I did so with a

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very Bare Bones pretty hardcore extreme

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lifestyle and guess what

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I really enjoyed it it was great

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but it was great for me I'm not going to

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speculate as to why today but I just

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find myself tending to be better with

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less less in my mind less in my fridge

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Less in my schedule just less everything

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my daily routine back in that day would

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have looked something like this I would

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wake up early

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I would bike 10 kilometers to work have

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no breakfast then I would work and then

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for lunch I would eat the same thing

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every day that I prepared the weekend

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before and then I would bike 10

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kilometers home

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come home meditate either go to the gym

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or to yoga and then eat the same thing

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for dinner every every day and then take

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and then if it was a nice day out I

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would take a book with me to the park

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read until sundown and then go to bed

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early I was new to the city I knew very

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few people I didn't own I didn't even

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own a TV I was strictly casual

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romantically and I very intentionally

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had very few responsibilities in my life

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so I had about as much control over my

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day as like somebody could possibly have

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minus having to work a nine to five job

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and in this type of daily routine

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I thrived I want to stress that I think

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I am very weird at the time I did not

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know anyone who was living their life

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that way nor did I know anyone who would

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want to listen to this day I literally

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watch maybe one to two TV shows per year

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and I'm I'm not exaggerating unless

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something really really speaks to me I

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am just not interested and that's why I

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keep mentioning Vinland Saga because

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that's one of the most recent shows

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that's really had a big impact on me I

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really really like it but that's the

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only one I can think of in like recent

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memory I listened to like

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maybe three albums per year max if I had

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to think off the top of my head the last

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ones that I'd actually listened to

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would have been sure by Fleet Foxes than

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Kendrick's newest album and now feist's

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latest album multitudes I really like

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and we actually saw her perform a very

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small 50-person concert uh before she

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released her album when she was still

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working on the music she did like a cool

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Residency program at this place in

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Toronto which was really cool to see but

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otherwise

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I basically never listened to music I I

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literally drive my car in silence okay

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I'm giving these few examples to say

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that I'm very aware this is abnormal and

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I want to make it very clear that this

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is not something that I try to do or use

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like will power to like limit the amount

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of stuff that comes into my brain no I

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am like this is innately the way I am so

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the summation of all of this is I think

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it is much much easier to incorporate

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fire into your life if you also find

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that you deviate from a lot of other

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social norms otherwise yeah I think it's

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going to be pretty tough sure maybe

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you'll reach Financial Independence in

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your 40s or your 50s which is a bit

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earlier than maybe the average

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retirement age but if you're after that

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kind of illustrious early retirement in

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your 30s the goal that everyone seems to

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be pining for

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I think it's gonna be pretty hard

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because most people are not going to be

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cool with living off of only forty

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thousand dollars per year for the rest

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of their life at that point and how can

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I say that with some confidence well

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because even me a weirdo who innately

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did the whole monk mode thing before

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that became very recently popularized I

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realized that life is best when it's

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shared and when it's shared it comes

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with a whole host of things that you

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can't project out in a spreadsheet

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building a life with someone is much

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much much much much different than

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building your own additionally as it's

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really nicely put in the book die with

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zero which I think everyone who is

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interested in financial Independence

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should definitely read my friend Maddie

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recommended it to me because he knew all

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the crazy stuff I was thinking about

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financial Independence and it was a

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really great kind of counter Viewpoint

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to a lot of of it but basically the

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author makes the case that there's

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actually an optimal window to spend

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money on certain things like experiences

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whether that's travel or other related

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things and that optimal window kind of

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happens before you're 40 years old

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because after that point things start

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happening in your life that's going to

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prevent you from having more interesting

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experiences you know you just get older

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it becomes much harder to do crazy

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things like multi-day treks to give an

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example of a lot of the different things

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that I would like to do and not to

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mention the formative effects having

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those experiences earlier on in life

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will give you and then will constantly

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enrich your life as you continue to grow

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older so so far we've identified two big

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problems here the requirement of being

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able to deviate from a lot of social

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norms which is by definition difficult

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for most people to do and number two the

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willingness to live off of a very small

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amount of money now but Steve what if I

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waited until I reached Financial

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Independence until I had a lot of money

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so I didn't have to live off of a small

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amount of money this brings me to

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problem number three perhaps the biggest

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problem of them all

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income let's think about something for a

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moment why is it that YouTubers

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entrepreneurs social media personalities

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whoever

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seems to be the most vocal ones on the

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stage of financial Independence and of

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course you can include me in this group

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it's because we earn high incomes

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the road to financial Independence for

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the average person is like the roads in

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my hometown

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barely any lines

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full of potholes just downright

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treacherous

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the road to financial Independence for

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somebody with a high income

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is like the Autobahn the FI Community

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puts such an emphasis on nickel and

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diming on saving and expenses but in my

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opinion the real key

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is income I mean it let's just think

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about it logically for a moment

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expenses just don't scale the same way

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that income does after a certain point

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your expenses are just going to hit a

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ceiling I mean there's only so much

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money a reasonable person can spend in

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their life there is a quality of life

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that can be achieved with a certain

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level of expense expenditure that is

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going to satisfy most people

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but income on the other hand that scales

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in a completely different fashion and

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the Inconvenient Truth is while it may

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be easier and more fashionable to tell

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somebody to save a few bucks by making

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iced coffees at home

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it's a lot more difficult to tell

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somebody the truth which is that hey you

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kind of have to increase your income

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from fifty thousand dollars to a hundred

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and fifty thousand dollars it's hard to

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tell someone if freedom in your 30s is

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really what you desire then you kind of

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have to massively skew your efforts and

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your energy towards increasing your

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income as opposed to decreasing your

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expenses I mean tell that to a nurse in

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Ontario who's only entitled to receive

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something like a one percent raise every

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three years oh they should just quit and

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go into a higher paying industry

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uh yeah that's that's what's happening

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but that's not a good thing because

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that's a net loss for society because

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we're kind of running low on nurses and

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I think this is just one of many

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examples across a whole bunch of

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different Industries right now and May

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maybe I'm wrong but from my perspective

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it seems like we're kind of reaching a

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bit of a boiling point here where

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people's frustrations are just kind of

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hitting their limit the inability for

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people to lead a standard and fulfilling

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life while working a job that is

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actually integral to the function of

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society is crazy to me in the modern

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world yeah no things are way better

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than they were a thousand years ago

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Stephen Pinker this Stephen Pinker that

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but that's exactly my point

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things are so good that there is

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absolutely no reason why somebody who is

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so essential for the function of a

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healthy Society like a nurse should be

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frustrated to the point where they are

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quitting in droves so yeah I think it's

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pretty incorrect to talk about fire as

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if it's something that anybody can or

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should do

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unless they are willing to unless they

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are willing to or naturally

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predisposition to deviate pretty far

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from a lot of social norms and yet

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I can't think of any philosophy out

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there that is a better Gateway or entry

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point to get into to learn about the way

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to learn about the world of money and to

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empower yourself you see as much as I've

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been critical about fire lately it was

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the philosophy that I found that caused

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me to become obsessed with learning

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about money because that end goal of

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being able to break free from the

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perceived system was exactly what I was

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looking for so it was my Gateway but

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just because something is a gateway

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it doesn't mean you have to keep walking

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on that trail because if you look around

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within the same park you just entered

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into you'll see that there's a whole

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bunch of different trails and maybe a

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different Trail is now better suited for

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you and who you and what you want out of

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life ultimately at least in my case

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which is the only thing I can really

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speak to my perspective on wealth

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has changed is changing and I'm sure

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will continue to change but at this

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point I see wealth as less and less the

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number in my bank account and more and

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more as the wealth contained

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within my own being I guess to put it in

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a frustratingly vague way I suppose I

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mean the information and experiences

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that I accumulate the capacity I have to

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endure hardship or to lend a helping

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hand to someone the ability to separate

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the wheat from the chaff mentally

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speaking the vitality and strength of my

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physical body

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and my relationship with which we make

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hesitatingly call the Divine and if any

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of that sounds pretentious to you you

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can Google the song Sorry by Beyonce go

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to the first verse look at line number

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five

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you have my response to you half Jokes

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Aside all of those flowery things that I

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just listed I believe are very strongly

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correlated to one's ability to generate

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wealth monetary or otherwise at least

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that has been my observation in my own

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life and others around me Financial

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Independence is good

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but I think fundamental Independence is

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better and

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that does not require a YouTube channel

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