FLAIR 58 DETHRONED?: Superkop and Sonic S7 Review
Summary
TLDRIn this video, Lance Hedrick explores if the Flare 58x espresso machine's dominance is over by comparing it with the Super Cop Espresso Machine and the MW3 Bomber Sonic S7. He discusses design, build quality, workflow, and performance, including temperature and pressure profiles. Lance finds the Flare 58x still holds its ground due to its thermal stability, built-in pressure gauge, and affordable price, despite the competitors' unique features and approaches.
Takeaways
- 🔥 Lance Hedrick discusses if the King of home lever espresso machines still reigns supreme or if it's been dethroned by new contenders.
- 🆚 Two competitors are evaluated: the Super Cop Espresso Machine and the MW3 Bomber Sonic S7, both around $800 compared to the Flare 58X at closer to $500.
- 🎥 A short sponsored segment for BetterHelp is included, offering a 10% discount for the first month of therapy services.
- 🆓 Lance received the MW3 Bomber for free to review, while the Super Cop was purchased after the Milan Expo.
- 🏆 Both machines will be given away through Patreon competitions, indicating Lance won't keep them.
- 🏷 The Sonic S7 is noted for its stainless steel construction and a unique lever mechanism similar to the Flare 58.
- 📏 The Sonic S7 includes a self-leveling tamper and two types of baskets for different coffee dosages.
- 🌡 Preheating is crucial for the Sonic S7 to achieve optimal brewing temperatures, unlike the Flare which retains more heat.
- 🔩 The Super Cop features a ratchet system for pressure application, differing from traditional lever mechanisms.
- 💧 The Super Cop does not require preheating and maintains temperature well, but the wooden base could be a point of failure over time.
- ☕ Despite the new machines' innovations, Lance concludes that the Flare 58X remains unbeaten in terms of performance, quality, and price.
Q & A
What is the main topic of the video?
-The main topic of the video is a comparison of two espresso machines, the Super Cop Espresso Machine and the MW3 Bomber Sonic S7, to determine if they can dethrone the popular Flare 58 espresso machine.
What is the significance of the Flare 58 in the espresso machine market?
-The Flare 58 is considered a benchmark in the espresso machine market, sparking a renewal of interest in lever machines for home use and serving as a comparison standard for other machines.
What is the price range of the Super Cop Espresso Machine and the MW3 Bomber Sonic S7?
-Both the Super Cop Espresso Machine and the MW3 Bomber Sonic S7 are priced around $800, which is higher than the Flare 58 that costs closer to $500 or $600 with a heating element.
What is unique about the design of the Sonic S7 espresso machine?
-The Sonic S7 features a direct lever mechanism, a built-in monometer for pressure monitoring, a self-leveling tamper, and two different types of baskets for espresso preparation.
What is the workflow of the Sonic S7 similar to?
-The workflow of the Sonic S7 is similar to that of the Flare 58, involving a lever mechanism to fill the chamber with water and press it down to extract espresso.
What is the issue with the thermal stability of the Sonic S7?
-The Sonic S7 has a stainless steel brewing chamber that lacks thermal stability and requires extensive preheating to maintain optimal temperatures for espresso extraction.
What is special about the pressure application system of the Super Cop Espresso Machine?
-The Super Cop Espresso Machine uses a ratchet system to increase pressure, which is a novel approach that makes building pressure easier on the user's arm compared to traditional lever systems.
How does the Super Cop Espresso Machine handle temperature without preheating?
-The Super Cop Espresso Machine can maintain sufficient brewing temperatures without preheating, thanks to its design that doesn't rely on external heat retention like the Flare 58's silicone wrap.
What is the potential issue with the plastic water cup of the Super Cop Espresso Machine?
-The plastic water cup of the Super Cop Espresso Machine is made from food-safe polycarbonate, but there's a concern about possible BPA leeching above 70°C and the long-term durability of the plastic.
What is the opinion of the presenter regarding the competition between these espresso machines and the Flare 58?
-The presenter concludes that while the Super Cop and Sonic S7 offer unique features and are valid options, the Flare 58 remains unbeaten in terms of performance, quality, and price, retaining its position as the 'King' of home espresso machines.
What does the presenter suggest about the necessity of a pressure gauge on the Super Cop Espresso Machine?
-The presenter notes that while the Super Cop Espresso Machine lacks a pressure gauge, users are still achieving good results, suggesting that the feel and technique can compensate for the absence of a gauge, although it adds a steep learning curve.
Outlines
🔍 Introduction to the Espresso Machine Review
Lance Hedrick introduces a video exploring whether the current 'King' of home espresso machines, the Flare 58, has been dethroned by two new contenders: the Super Cop Espresso Machine and the MW3 Bomber Sonic S7. He mentions a renewal of interest in lever machines sparked by the Flare's launch and sets the stage for a comparison. Lance also discusses his experience with mental health and introduces BetterHelp, a therapy service that sponsored the video, offering a discount for the first month of use.
🛠 A Closer Look at the Sonic S7 Espresso Machine
The Sonic S7 is examined in detail, highlighting its construction from 304 stainless steel and aluminate alloys. It features a lever mechanism similar to the Flare 58, with a piston and one-way holes for water flow. The machine includes a built-in manometer, a self-leveling tamper, and two types of baskets for different coffee doses. Lance discusses the workflow, noting the need for preheating the brewing chamber due to the lack of a heating element, and shares his initial impressions of the machine's performance.
🌡 Testing the Sonic S7's Temperature and Preheating
Lance conducts a temperature test on the Sonic S7, starting with room-temperature water and then preheating the machine. He finds that the machine requires multiple preheating sessions to reach optimal temperatures for espresso extraction. He also notes the machine's rapid heat loss due to the lack of insulation and compares it to the Flare 58's heat retention. The video captures the process of pulling a shot with the Sonic S7, emphasizing the unique flow pattern observed during extraction.
🔩 Exploring the Super Cop Espresso Machine's Ratchet System
The Super Cop Espresso Machine is introduced with a focus on its innovative ratchet system for building pressure. Unlike traditional lever machines, the Super Cop uses a piston with a gasket and a ratchet mechanism that makes it easier to achieve 9 bars of pressure. Lance discusses the machine's components, including the food-safe polycarbonate water cup and the lack of a pressure gauge, which he compensates for with a Bluetooth transducer. He also mentions the machine's aesthetic appeal and the option for wall mounting.
🌡️ Temperature and Extraction Test for Super Cop Espresso Machine
Lance tests the temperature and extraction process of the Super Cop Espresso Machine. He notes that the machine does not require preheating and can achieve suitable extraction temperatures with boiling water. The video demonstrates the use of a modified cup to measure pressure during extraction, showing that the ratchet system allows for easy pressure building but also results in pressure dips between ratchets. Lance discusses the learning curve and the importance of feel and technique when using the Super Cop.
🏆 Conclusion: The Flare 58x Remains Uncontested
In conclusion, Lance reflects on the performance of both the Sonic S7 and the Super Cop Espresso Machine. While he appreciates the unique features and appeal of both machines, he determines that the Flare 58x still offers the best value for money and performance. He acknowledges the enjoyment factor and conversational draw of the new machines but ultimately sides with the Flare 58x for its reliability and ease of use. Lance invites viewers to check out his Patreon and other social media platforms for more content and giveaways.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Flare 58
💡Sonic S7
💡Super Cop
💡Thermal Stability
💡Lever Espresso Machines
💡Ratchet System
💡Preheating
💡Monometer
💡Patreon
💡Manual Espresso Brewing
Highlights
Introduction to the question of whether the King of home lever espresso machines has been dethroned.
Review of two competitors to the reigning King: the Super Cop Espresso Machine and the MW3 Bomber Sonic S7.
Mention of the importance of the Flare 58x in the market and its influence on other machines.
Sponsorship segment discussing BetterHelp mental health services.
Honest disclosure about receiving the MW3 Bomber for free to review.
Overview of the build quality and price comparison of the Sonic S7 and Super Cop Espresso Machine to the Flare 58x.
Description of the Sonic S7's construction materials and design.
Explanation of the lever mechanism in the Sonic S7 and its similarity to the Flare 58.
Discussion on the importance of a built-in monometer for direct lever machines.
Overview of the accessories included with the Sonic S7, such as the tamper and baskets.
Mention of the unique suitcase carrying case option for the Sonic S7.
Workflow comparison between the Sonic S7 and Flare 58, emphasizing the need for preheating.
Temperature testing of the Sonic S7 and its performance at room temperature.
Observation of the standing water issue on the piston of the Sonic S7 after extraction.
Introduction to the Super Cop Espresso Machine and its innovative ratchet pressure system.
Discussion on the potential longevity and durability of the Super Cop's components.
Comparison of the pressure application and ease of use between the Super Cop and traditional lever machines.
Temperature testing of the Super Cop and its performance without preheating.
Final thoughts on whether the Flare 58x has been dethroned by the Sonic S7 or Super Cop.
Conclusion and call to action for viewers to support the channel through Patreon and other platforms.
Transcripts
what's up everyone Lance Hedrick here
and today we're going to ask the all
important question is the King
dead it's no secret that when flare
launched they began kind of a renewal of
interest in lever machines at home and
it seems to be the barometer with which
we measure everything else on the market
no King no Monarch lasts forever is it
time that this one Falls well I've got
two competitors right now that I'd like
to take a look at in today's video and
we'll see if the King has been
dethroned so today we're going to take a
look at two recent contenders which is
the super cop espresso machine and the
MW3 bomber Sonic S7 but before we get
into that here's a short segment from
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the video now it is important to make a
quick disclaimer with some of these
machines now the mhw 3 bomber I did get
for free from them in order to review
and this was before I made my video
announcing I was buying everything I got
the shipment confirmation before the new
year began and it took like 8 weeks to
get here now as for the super cop I got
it right after the Expo in Milan last
year so I've had it for quite a few
months both of these units will be going
to sumon of my patreon through
competitions so I won't be keeping them
but now let's start The
Showdown two different approaches than
how they're making espresso but two very
solidly built machines they both sit
around $800 or so whereas the flare 58x
is closer to 500 the 58 with the heating
element is around 600 you must
outperform it pretty well in order to
call for a higher price tag so first
we're going to take a look at the Sonic
S7 you may already recognize this
company they're known for making a lot
of accessories for espresso preparation
and things like that they came out with
their own original type of design to
offer the home Barista a direct lever
machine so this is constructed of 304
stainless steel aluminate Alloys and
then there's some silicon and obviously
we see wood we have a lever right here
when you lift it fills the chamber with
the water and when you go back down it
presses it so it's a similar mechanism
to the flare 58 where there's a piston
inside they're holes in it that is one
way so when you lift up the water goes
through you push down the water is
pressed using that piston
Force we have a monometer that's built
in which is a necessity these days
especially with direct lever machines in
order to follow what you're doing so you
can try to replicate your experience as
well as dial in your coffee to specific
profiles it also comes with their tamper
which is a self-leveling tamper and it
has a rippled base if you're curious
about tampers I got a video here you can
check out this little distributor which
um you if you're watching this channel
you likely know my thoughts on those but
we won't really get into it you also get
two different types of baskets one
that's heavily tapered and then one
that's kind of a bigger base basket that
holds about 20 G of coffee and this
little shot glass which is actually a 58
mm diameter kind of neat um but yeah you
can pull your espresso into it you can
measure beans with it whatever you want
you can get a strip down version or you
can get it one with the suit the
carrying case which is a very welcome
Trend with more and more machines coming
like that starting with the decent
espresso machine that kind of ships in a
case a suitcase you have the zero which
comes in the Pelican case type thing and
they also offer something like that so I
got the one with the
suitcase but this is where things are a
bit interesting it's nice it's quality
it's going to hold it it has all the
foam inside
but who in their right mind has taking
this on an airplane there's a plane on
it and that word guess what you going to
do about it you could probably just you
know have your kid call all over it or
something spray paintt it do some Fe
work or something so as you can see it
comes with all the parts that are needed
to make good espresso when it arrives it
is essentially all built you just have
to screw in the handle right here so
there's a little thumb screw right here
just screw it right on in and you're
essentially good to go what is the
workflow on it honestly it's very
similar to that of a flare 58 the
Brewing chamber is this hunk of
stainless steel you really need to
preheat the mess out of it otherwise
it's just not going to be very hot and
since there's no heating element here
it's all based on your Kettle I like on
the flare you have that kind of silicone
wrap that helps retain some of the Heat
this one you don't have that so it's
going to dissipate a bit quicker so
we're going to go ahead take a look at
that I'm obviously pulling out my
thermocouple we'll pull a shot and then
we'll move on to the super
cop so mind you I'm starting with this
at room temperature so I'm going to go
ahead and fill it up and we'll see with
the first pull completely room
temperature what it does to the temp so
we lift this up it sucks the water down
really nicely really efficiently all of
it's been sucked now we're going to push
down we're 64
65 looks like we're peeking at 65 before
it starts to plummet now we're down to
62
60
69 it's just going to stay at 59 it
looks like and then as this is going out
I'm going to go ahead and
reheat all right so we've done all the
preheating now I'm just going to release
the water and then we'll fill it up and
measure what it's like after this
preheat so here we
are get all that out now we're going to
put the skat back in like we're locking
on our actual Porta filter with coffee
and here we
go and start the push so now we're at
83.2 with one
preheat so it looks like it may need a
solid two full preheating sessions where
you put boiling water in and let it sit
in order for it to hit that 90° mark
this was obviously boiling water so it
should give us a little extra pre
preheating then we'll put boiling water
in one more time read it one final time
and then we'll move on with an actual
shot so here we go quickly time is of
the essence when you're using these
types of levers so we lift drop it in
and we go this time we are at 83 again
this steel right here it gets super hot
to the touch it's not double walled or
anything it uh it rapidly loses heat so
in order to really make sure you're
getting the best of this you really need
to preheat a lot unless of course you're
using a really dark roast in which case
one preheat will do fine 83 85° is going
to be more than fine for a dark roast of
coffee all right we've got our coffee
ready let's go ahead and dose it into
our pter
filter put this back
down we
lift and we begin
going up immediately
to um nine bar we're going to chill
here and slowly
descend it's really weird pulling from
behind the table but we're doing a good
job doing a good
job we're keeping that flow out at about
1 1.2 g a
second
and we're going to be
done
right now you lift to stop the plunger
and you're good to
go it's not bad first off because the
arm is so long it's actually a bit
easier to get that nine bar than on a
flare 58 um so it's a bit it's a bit
nicer to get that before I knew I needed
to preheat the absolute mess out of it
and before I knew that even doing that I
was still getting lower temperatures
something unique was happening when I
was pulling my espresso immediately the
bottom of the basket would cover and it
would drip out really quickly for a few
seconds and then it would almost like
choke and this actually reminds me of
the experience when you're using pretty
cool water to brew coffee now I'm
thinking back on I was probably sitting
at like 70 or 75° C when making that
espresso that water did not want to get
through at that lower temperature higher
temperatures it doesn't a better job but
what I have noticed is there's a bit of
a lack of body maybe because I'm using
lighter roast and it's doing a a cooler
temperature you also have standing water
on top of the Piston Once you pull it
back up and retract it there's a decent
amount we have quite a bit of water
that's just sitting up there that you
can't really do anything with it's been
decent espressos but when you're looking
at that 800 $850 price point
I'm I I wish I didn't have to faf around
as much if you have one and you enjoy it
very valid I'm glad you enjoy it this is
just me kind of giving my thoughts let's
move on to the super
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call we've had the spinny with the Aram
we've had the pump with the Pico presso
we've had the Seesaw with the unar Nomad
which is still one of the goats in my
opinion video link right there from a
few years ago but now we have a new way
of producing pressure we still have a
piston inside but the way that the
pressure is increased is is using a
ratchet system it's a really neat Nifty
thing and in fact I really like to watch
it without anything there so you're
going down up the rung up the rung and
you see here's a piston with a gasket
around it it's all CNC miled stainless
steel
inside and then we come to the top then
when you pull back a little bit
more so satisfying and it makes building
pressure a whole lot easier on your arm
but of course there are down Ides with
it whenever you're lifting back up
you're obviously relieving pressure from
the puck so you get a pressure curve
that kind of looks like this this one is
definitely lasting Generations upon
generations to come the only real
failure points in this would be the
water cup where you place water this is
made from a food safe polycarbonate I
didn't I couldn't find online if it was
BPA free I have to imagine it is because
we have a lot of studies that show above
70° that you're getting some leeching
going on uh but I've got to imagine it's
BPA free if it's saying uh food safe it
does you know no no dishwasher this
could obviously be a fail safe over over
the years so I would potentially buy
multiple cups if you were you know
investing in something like this and
wanting it to last decades because it's
this plastic you don't need to preheat
so similar claim to like the robot no
preheating of course we're going to put
that to the test and the other thing is
just this wooden base it can warp over
time it doesn't seem very well treated
um it's a bit difficult to rub espresso
spurts off of it they do have a second
opt
with the setup here you can get it wall
mounted now I actually love the wall
mounted look I know it's very polarizing
a lot of people don't like it but when I
was at the mumac Museum I saw this
machine right here from
F and I love the idea of sitting on a
train back in the 60s or so and you have
the you know the person on the train
come you like an espresso they walk over
and they pull it from a wall lever which
I think is so cool and when I saw that I
was like dang I really want one of those
I wonder if I can find one to restore
and mount somewhere in my house still on
the look so if you have a lead on one of
those old famous let me know cuz your
boy will pick it up and restore it but
anyway there's no real place for me to
Mount this so I'm using just the wooden
base which gives a decent counter
balance for the pressure you're putting
on the system another thing that you'll
immediately notice is there's no
pressure gauge there's no monometer how
the heck are you supposed to know what
pressure you're at well thankfully mosat
press sensor made a little prototype cup
with a hole here to read pressure using
his BL Bluetooth transducer the people
at Super cop are kind enough to let me
borrow it in order to run tests they
have no idea what I'm doing with it they
are planning on adding a pressure gauge
in the coming months or year I don't I
don't know the timeline to it but
they're trying to figure out a good
place to put
it really nice Porta filters really
heavy duty and as you notice there are
no wings on it there are no flaps on the
side you can get a spouted one and yes
other baskets do fit in
this come on baby ow here's a VST for
instance and then if you switch the
spring out you can also get like the
sworks or a fancy basket to fit in then
whenever you get your coffee ground up
you put it in the basket you Tamp it
down you just place this which has its
own gasket on it and its own built-in
shower screen you place it into the
basket like so it fits really snugly in
there due to that gasket then you put
water in here they say there's a 60 mm
limit but honestly I can get 50 to 55
mls in the cup if I go all the way um so
it's got to be more than 60 because
about I don't know 30 or 40 Ms are being
absorbed into the puck I guess when they
say 60 mil limit they're talking about
on the
scale have to get this piston all the
way up so you got to do that fun little
thing and you just slide it directly in
there's no real good way to track what
you're doing but it seems that people
are getting great shots regardless so
whenever I show you the Bluetooth
reading of the pressure don't be fretful
thinking those variations and pressure
is going to negatively affect the coffee
in a big way a lot of people love the
Simplicity of it and the fact that it is
so easy to create 9 bar without going
hard but as you can imagine especially
for people like me who are crazy and
have way too much muscle to know what to
do with cuz I am as big as the rock well
you're going to overshoot the pressure
pretty easily just know you need to go
down smoothly and get a proper grind
size I will say I think because of that
there's a pretty steep learning curve to
it but I guess it just depends if you
get lucky with the grind size if you
have experience whatever it might
be so now we're going to test the
temperature of this machine now I won't
be able to be as precise as I was with
this because the skas won't fit in here
we're going to pour the water into the
cup and we're going to see what the
temperature is inside the cup
immediately obviously whatever the
temperature is in this we we're not
going over regardless of what there is
so we know that the temperature is at
its peak once it's in here because then
we put it in we're not increasing
temperature at all yes we'll increase
the pressure which I guess guess could
have a minor effect because pressurizing
it can increase the temperature but in
reality it's not going to do too much
now we need to take into account that
this piston is stainless steel so unless
it's preheated it's going to leech some
of that temperature out even if there's
an air pocket it will still affect the
temperature so with boiling water I just
pulled off the boil and threw it in
there it's at 90 C without any
preheating at all down to 87
now yeah so it does continue to drop so
speed is of the essence whenever you're
doing this so you want to get that shot
ready tamped place this on pour it in
and go as quickly as possible so we've
got the water back at Boiling we're
going to put it in this
preheated cup and we're going to take a
temperature now we're at 92 it's already
dropping though we're at
915 so it looks like after one preheat
you can get up to about 92° if you are
using really lightly roasted coffees
it's probably worth it to preheat it a
bit make sure the basket is hot and make
sure the Piston is hot as well but other
than that even with lighter coffees 90°
is sufficient as long as you're quick
with your workflow I often pull light
roasted coffees at 90 I don't don't
really think you really need to push the
temperature too too high all right we
got our coffee tamped and ready to go
I've got my modified Cup on here let's
get our boiling
water fill this bad boy up lock it in so
you'll be able to follow along with my
extraction and see how the pressure is
with this ratchet
system so as you can see there's that
dip as I'm quickly filling up the puck
with water I did the first couple really
quickly my my grind's a little tight
right here don't really worry about that
as much as watching the pressure so this
will just be a longer shot but no
worries so we're just kind of living and
you see I'm not really I'm not having to
push that hard this ratchet system
really makes it a lot easier their goal
was to give something to where you
wouldn't need like you know a 1 meter
long lever in order to make an easy nine
bar shot so I'm dipping on the pressure
let me go back
up I've read online that some people
think each ratchet is going to give you
like a consistent pressure just
depending on your uh grind size but I've
not found that to be the case I can I
can push it really high if I want you
see that I got up to 14 bar and again
we're on the next one I can get up look
at that I can get up to 14 so that's the
issue is if you think you need to push
as hard as a flare you're going to have
some really wonky shots of coffee and
then you can kind of just live down here
but again I can force it way up I ran
out of water but that's what it looks
like when you're pulling a
shot what is inevitable is in between
each rung you are going to lose pressure
no it's not unseating the puck like a
solenoid valve wood it's not sucking
anything out you're lessening the
pressure momentarily as you're going to
the next rung that's why you saw I like
to go quickly to minimize the amount of
time that the pressure has dipped on the
Puck's surface you're going strictly off
of feel and the feel is not super
accurate because every time it feels a
little different and that's just because
you're going with this ratchet system
which is giving you kind of different
angles different torque throughout as
you're going to the different ratchet
levels it can be a little confusing that
being said this can give you incredible
texture it is very easy to use as far as
pulling down the lever it's kind of fun
and novel and honestly I think it's a
statement piece I'm sure if you had this
hanging on your wall it would be the
center of a slew of conversations always
taste what you pull even if it's not
very good and that is not very good that
being said it's not super bitter it's
just really watery and kind of and I
like
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it makes it difficult to kind of remove
the and you know what they say if you're
coming for the king you best not miss
and even though I don't think these are
misses as far as they're placed on the
market and they and they're validity to
many customers who want them or have
them I don't think that when we get down
to the Brass tax and we're looking at
bang for your buck as well as quality
and all the things kind of put into one
the flare 58x is pretty difficult to
beat in terms of its performance its
quality and its
price sometimes you just want a coffee
this does the art this does the good
stuff it gives you nice texture and
there it is the Sonic S7 while it does
look pretty nice I do wish that there
was a little bit more thought put behind
the the chamber here for thermal
stability cuz right now it just doesn't
really have much thermal stability at
all it just rapidly loses heat I enjoy
the offset lever arm I enjoy the build
of it the weight of it I think both of
these are great additions to the market
in the sense that uh it's going to add
some flavor and there going to be people
who are very much drawn to either one of
these no I don't think the King has been
dethroned the flare 58 is here to stay a
little bit longer uncontested in my
opinion yes the lever is a bit more
difficult to create the same pressure as
these two especially the ratchet system
but you have a monometer built in you
have the Porta filter with a 58 mm that
can be replaced with other ones and you
have the thermal heating element here
even if you don't have that element and
you have the X this still has a great
thermal stability due to this wrapping
that's going on up at the top to
maintain the heat really well do I love
the cfat RO robot yes and it's my choice
to brew on I prefer brewing with it it
is a more fun Brewing method than the
flare 58 but if I'm doing a light
roasted coffee this rain Supreme I'm
just giving you my point of view and so
take that for what you will I'm not
endorsing anything to be bought I am
just telling you my thoughts on these
machines because I think they're really
cool and I love to play around with
machines and share my thoughts on them
so that is kind of that thank you for
watching up until now please check out
my patreon below because you know I'll
be giving these things away uh through
competitions there uh please you know
check out my second YouTube where I do a
lot of rant style things you know my
Instagram all those different things
anywhere you want to support is greatly
appreciated by me thank you so much I
hope that you brew something tasty today
and cheers
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