DO YOU LIKE BRAHMS? - The TRUE story of the mythical Brahms-Clara-Robert Schumann love triangle
Summary
TLDRThe video explores the real-life love triangle between Clara Schumann, her husband Robert, and their friend Johannes Brahms, which inspired the Korean drama 'Do You Like Brahms?'. It delves into the deep emotional connections, mutual admiration for music, and the complex dynamics of their relationships. Despite Brahms' growing love for Clara, her enduring love for her husband remained. The video also hints at Robert's possible bisexuality and his affection for Brahms. It contrasts the drama's portrayal with historical events, highlighting the enduring 40-year friendship between Brahms and Clara post-Robert's death.
Takeaways
- 🎭 The Korean drama 'Do You Like Brahms?' is inspired by the real-life love triangle between Clara Schumann, her husband Robert Schumann, and their friend Johannes Brahms.
- 🎵 Brahms met the Schumanns when he was 20, and they had been married for 14 years. Despite their marriage, both Clara and Robert were deeply moved by Brahms' music and personality.
- 💖 Clara Schumann was likely in love with Brahms, even while still in love with her husband, as evidenced by her diary entries praising Brahms' expressive face and beautiful hands.
- 🏳️🌈 It's speculated that Robert Schumann may have had deeper feelings for Brahms, possibly indicating bisexuality, though Brahms viewed him as a mentor and father figure.
- 🎼 Brahms dedicated his second sonata to Clara and she helped him with his third sonata, showcasing their close professional and personal relationship.
- 🏠 Brahms lived with the Schumanns, and his love for Clara grew stronger, especially during Robert's illness when Brahms provided emotional support to Clara.
- 🤔 The drama diverges from reality by depicting Brahms and Clara's deepening relationship during Robert's hospitalization, a period when Brahms' love for Clara intensified.
- 🎹 Clara, a renowned pianist and composer, played a significant role in Brahms' career, and her favorite piece by him was the Andante from his third sonata.
- 🕰️ Despite Robert's death, Brahms and Clara maintained a 40-year friendship, with Brahms never fully committing to another relationship, possibly due to his enduring love for Clara.
- 🎶 The music in the background of the video is the Andante from Brahms's third sonata, which Clara particularly loved and often performed, reflecting the deep emotional connection between them.
Q & A
What is the Korean drama 'Do You Like Brahms?' based on?
-The drama is based on the real-life love triangle that occurred between Clara Schumann, her husband Robert Schumann, and their friend Johannes Brahms.
How old was Johannes Brahms when he met Clara and Robert Schumann?
-Johannes Brahms was only 20 years old when he met Clara and Robert Schumann, who had been married for 14 years at that time.
What was the initial reaction of Clara and Robert Schumann to Brahms?
-Both Clara and Robert Schumann fell instantly in love with Brahms and his music at first sight, with Clara being particularly drawn to his music and Robert proclaiming him the next Beethoven.
Did Clara Schumann have feelings for Brahms beyond a professional relationship?
-It's almost certain that Clara Schumann was in love with Brahms, even as she remained in love with her husband Robert. She loved his music deeply and was always encouraging him to compose more.
What is speculated about Robert Schumann's feelings towards Brahms?
-It's speculated that Robert Schumann might have been bisexual and had deeper feelings for Brahms, although it's not certain. He certainly admired Brahms' music and talent.
How did Brahms view his relationship with Robert Schumann?
-Brahms looked up to Robert Schumann as a surrogate father and teacher, and it was Clara with whom he fell madly in love.
What role did Clara play in Brahms' musical development?
-Clara gave Brahms piano lessons and helped him write his third sonata. She was also the one who introduced his music to the public by playing it in her concerts.
How did the real-life love story differ from the drama in terms of Robert Schumann's health?
-In the drama, Robert's illness is a significant plot point. In real life, Robert fell ill five months after Brahms met the Schumanns and had to be placed in a hospital, which deepened Brahms' emotional bond with Clara.
What was the nature of the relationship between Brahms and Clara after Robert Schumann's death?
-Brahms and Clara maintained a deep friendship for 40 years following Robert's death, with Brahms always knowing that Clara loved her husband more than she ever loved him.
What is the significance of Brahms's third sonata in the context of his relationship with Clara?
-Brahms's third sonata, which he wrote while living with the Schumanns and with Clara's help, was Clara's favorite piece of his. It was the first piece of his that was publicly performed and reflects the deep affection Brahms had for Clara.
What other aspects of Brahms's life will be discussed in the next episode of the video?
-The next episode will explore how the character Park Jun-seo in the drama resembles Brahms in personality and appearance, as well as delve into the secrets behind the Chalmuri piece and other similarities to the backstory presented in the drama.
Outlines
🎻 The Real-Life Love Triangle of Brahms, Schumann, and Clara
This paragraph delves into the historical love triangle between Johannes Brahms, Clara Schumann, and her husband Robert Schumann, which inspired the Korean drama 'Do You Like Brahms?'. Brahms met the Schumanns when he was 20, and both Clara and Robert were immediately captivated by his music. It's suggested that Clara was in love with Brahms, possibly even romantically, while still loving her husband. Robert, a composer himself, recognized Brahms' talent, dubbing him the next Beethoven. The narrative also touches on the possibility of Robert's bisexuality and deeper feelings for Brahms. Despite Brahms' growing love for Clara, he maintained a respectful distance, seeing Robert as a mentor. The drama diverges from reality by introducing Robert's illness and hospitalization, which accelerated Brahms' and Clara's deepening emotional bond. The music featured, Brahms's Andante from his third sonata, was a favorite of Clara's and symbolizes Brahms' unrequited love.
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Keywords
💡Brahms
💡Clara Schumann
💡Robert Schumann
💡Love Triangle
💡Korean Drama
💡Musical Dedication
💡Piano Lessons
💡Sonata
💡Andante
💡Chalmurai
Highlights
The new Korean drama 'Do You Like Brahms?' is based on the real-life love triangle between Clara, Schumann, and Johannes Brahms.
The real-life love triangle was even more romantic than the show's portrayal.
Johannes Brahms met Clara and Robert Schumann when he was 20, and they had been married for 14 years.
Clara and Robert fell in love with Brahms and his music at first sight.
Clara loved Brahms' music deeply, and it's likely she was in love with him, even while still in love with her husband.
Robert Schumann proclaimed Brahms as the next Beethoven and wrote an article about it.
Clara's diary entries describe her admiration for Brahms' expressive face and beautiful hands.
It's possible that Robert Schumann was bisexual and had deeper feelings for Brahms.
Brahms looked up to Robert as a surrogate father and teacher, while he fell in love with Clara.
Brahms dedicated his second sonata to Clara, and she helped him write his third sonata.
Brahms moved in with the Schumanns, and his love for Clara grew as he provided emotional support during Robert's illness.
Clara was the most famous pianist in Europe at the time and a brilliant composer.
Brahms and Clara maintained a 40-year friendship after Robert's death.
The drama differs from the real story by showing Brahms living with Clara during Robert's hospitalization.
Brahms' music, including the Andante from his third sonata, reflects his deep love for Clara.
The Andante was Clara's favorite piece by Brahms and was the first of his works performed publicly.
Brahms' unrequited love for Clara is a central theme in the drama and his music.
The video includes a discussion of the similarities between the drama's characters and the historical figures.
The upcoming episode will explore the secrets behind the Chalmuri piece and its connection to the love triangle.
Transcripts
the new korean drama do you like brahms
that's based on the real life love
triangle that happened between clara
schumann and her husband robert
and their friend johannes brahms it
really did happen
and was in many ways even more romantic
than the show as
amazingly romantic as the show is and so
i thought i'd tell you a little bit
about
the real life love triangle and how it
does relate to the show in many ways
and some of the differences too johannes
brahms
met clara and robert when he was only 20
years old and they'd been married for 14
years already
but robert and clara fell instantly in
love with brahms and his music
at first sight clara loved his music
loved hearing him play and was always
begging him to write more music she was
really into him his music spoke to her
her heart and soul in a very deep and
intense way
and it's almost certain that she really
was in love with him
even as she was still in love with her
husband robert
her husband was also very enamored and
in love with roms from the very first
time he met him
he was in love with his music to the
point where he
proclaimed him the next beethoven for
all the world
and wrote an article about it in a paper
calling him that
clara talks about the first time she met
brahms in her diary
and talks about his beautifully
expressive face
and his beautiful hands and she also in
her diary
calls him roberts johannes that her
husband
already proclaimed him his and was in
love with him we're not really sure but
it's possible that robert was bisexual
and
had even deeper feelings for brahms
though for certain brahms
only looked up to robert as a surrogate
father and teacher
and it was truly clara who he fell madly
in love with from the very start he
dedicated his second sonata to her clara
gave him piano lessons and helped him
right third sonata
it's true that brahms moved in with the
schumann's and
even as he fell daily in love with clara
her husband was right there
right next to them watching every minute
robert likely knew
that brahms was falling in love with his
wife and i don't
think he minded clara was the
greatest and most famous pianist in
europe
at that point in the mid 19th century
she was also a brilliant composer in her
own right
and robert knew that brahms would be
helpless not to fall in love with her
too
it was kind of expected the main way
that the korean drama isn't like the
real life love story
is that five months after brahms met the
schumann's
robert fell really ill and had to be
placed in a hospital
brahms stayed and lived with clara
while she despaired that her husband was
never going to recover
he fell more and more deeply in love
with her as he
stayed with her and she depended on him
for emotional support in her husband's
absence
her number one comfort in those days was
asking brahms for more music and asking
him to play for her
she never stopped loving her husband she
always loved him
that she loved both her husband and
brahms
is very probable brahms knew that she
was always in love with her husband
and even after robert eventually died
brahms always
knew that clara would love her husband
more
than she ever loved him they lived for
another 40 years and had a 40-year
friendship i'm going to talk
much more about what happened in that
relationship
and the other women that brahms tried to
fall in love with
but never actually made the commitment
to partly because he was always too
in love with clara to commit to anyone
else the music that's been playing in
the background and you see
in the video is the andante from
brahms's third sonata that he wrote when
he moved in with the schumann's
and clara helped him write it was
clara's favorite thing that he wrote
and she played it on her concerts it was
the very first piece
of his that was ever performed publicly
and you can hear
in the music how much he's falling in
love with her
and how much he's dying for her to love
him back and
can't you just imagine clara playing the
music for him
and to him it's so lovely in my next
episode i'm going to talk about
all the ways park junior resembles
brahms
in personality and looks and i'm going
to talk a little bit
about the secrets behind the chalmurai
piece and
some of the other background things that
actually are very similar to the
backstory
in their second episode enjoy the music
and
let me know in the comments what else
you'd like to know about the brahms
clara robert love triangle
hit like and subscribe all that see you
next time
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