K-Silver JH16 modules in depth
Summary
TLDRIn this video, the host explores the K Silver jh16 modules used in various gaming controllers, highlighting their cost-effectiveness and performance. They compare these modules to cheaper alternatives like the favor Union sticks and the more durable TX switches. The discussion covers controllers from brands like Turtle Beach, Victrix Gambit, and BFG, noting the differences in build quality and materials. The video also delves into the internal mechanisms of these controllers, comparing spring types and the impact on longevity and precision. The host shares their personal experience with controllers using jh16 modules, emphasizing their impressive performance despite the initial skepticism about their use in high-end controllers.
Takeaways
- 😀 The video discusses various thumbstick modules used in gaming controllers, focusing on K Silver's JH16 modules.
- 🔧 Cheaper controllers often use lower-quality thumbsticks with 1 million rotations and switches rated for 100,000 presses.
- 💷 High-end controllers like the Fusion Pro 3 and Nonon Revolution X use standard AlPS thumbsticks for better durability.
- 🔄 Victorix Gambit and BFG controllers use higher-rated modules with 2 million rotations and 1 million button presses.
- 🔩 The Thrust Master CNK modules offer variable spring strengths, providing customization not available with other brands.
- 🧲 K Silver's JH16 modules boast 5 million cycles of service life and use permanent magnets for high-temperature resistance and zero drift.
- 🛠️ The internal construction of thumbsticks varies, with cheaper models using a platform and spring system versus higher-end models with a more robust spring and shaft design.
- 🎮 Snake Bite Hair's GamePad RGB controller surprisingly uses the same K Silver JH16 modules found in much more expensive controllers.
- 📊 The video compares the resolution and performance of different controllers using JH16 modules, with some showing high resolution and others lower.
- 🔩 The video script suggests that the JH16 modules' performance is reliable, even with added weight from accessories like Control Freaks.
- ❓ The video ends with a call for viewer feedback on the longevity and performance of JH16 modules in controllers with extensive use.
Q & A
What types of controllers are using K Silver's JH16 modules?
-Controllers like the GamePad RGB by Snake Bite Hair, Nikon Revolution 5 Pro, and Turtle Beach Recon are using K Silver's JH16 modules.
What is the rating of the Hall effect thumbsticks used in cheaper controllers?
-The Hall effect thumbsticks used in cheaper controllers are rated for only 1 million rotations and the TX switch is rated for 100,000 presses.
How do the Victorix Gambit controllers differ in terms of thumbstick modules?
-The Victorix Gambit controllers use higher module thumbsticks rated for 2 million rotations and a million button presses, which is a significant upgrade from cheaper controllers.
What unique feature does Thrustmaster's CNK module offer that sets it apart?
-Thrustmaster's CNK modules offer the ability to choose different spring strengths, providing a customizable rotational force for the thumbsticks, which is not offered by Favor Union.
What is the claim made by Kilver about their JH16 thumbsticks regarding service life?
-Kilver claims that their JH16 thumbsticks have a service life of up to 5 million cycles, which is a significant claim compared to other thumbsticks on the market.
What is the difference in construction between cheaper thumbsticks and higher quality ones?
-Cheaper thumbsticks have a spring under a platform holding the housing against the shell, while higher quality ones have a larger diameter spring and metal parts, as opposed to the plastic parts found in cheaper modules.
Why might Kilver not have given a life rating for the TX switch used inside the controller?
-Kilver might not have given a life rating for the TX switch because they may have decided that the 5 million cycle rating for the thumbstick is the failure point, and they haven't provided a separate life rating for the metal conductive dome inside the stick.
How do the JH16 modules perform in terms of longevity and slop after extensive use?
-After extensive use, including over 150 hours of game time, the JH16 modules maintain good performance with minimal slop, even when used with additional weight from accessories like Control Freaks.
What is the reviewer's opinion on the use of JH16 modules in more expensive controllers?
-The reviewer believes that the use of JH16 modules in more expensive controllers is justified due to the high rotation claim and the engineering seen in the modules, which suggests they will hold up well over time.
What feature is the reviewer hoping to see implemented in future controllers?
-The reviewer hopes that future controllers will implement a true zero dead zone option, as they believe a Pro Controller should not have any dead zones.
Outlines
🎮 Controller Module Comparison
The paragraph discusses the various joystick modules used in different gaming controllers, focusing on their quality and price points. It starts with the cheaper controllers that use favor Union sticks with a 1 million rotation rating and a TX switch rated for 100,000 presses. The video then contrasts these with higher-end controllers like the Fusion Pro 3 and nonon Revolution X, which use standard Al sticks. The Victrix Gambit and BFG controllers are highlighted for using higher-rated modules with 2 million rotations and a million button presses. The paragraph also introduces the cnk modules, which offer variable spring strengths, a feature not commonly found in favor Union sticks. The discussion concludes with the Kilver jh16 modules, which claim high precision, no drift, and a service life of up to 5 million cycles, with a focus on the permanent magnets' resistance to high temperatures and no temperature drift.
🔩 Internals and Build Quality of Joystick Modules
This paragraph delves into the internal mechanisms and build quality of the joystick modules. It explains how cheaper modules have a different internal structure compared to higher-end ones, with the spring placement and materials used being key differentiators. The video script mentions that cheaper modules use metal parts and a different spring design, while higher-end modules transition to plastic parts and a larger diameter spring for better quality. The paragraph also discusses the TX switches found on the sides of the modules and how they are integrated differently across various brands. The Kilver jh16 modules are again highlighted, with a focus on their internal design, including the use of tiny magnets and a metal conductive dome for improved durability and performance.
🕹️ Performance and Longevity of Joystick Modules
The final paragraph discusses the performance and longevity of the Kilver jh16 modules in various controllers. It covers the user's experience with controllers using these modules, such as the GamePad RGB by Snake Bite Hair and the Nikon Revolution 5 Pro, and how they perform in terms of resolution and build quality. The paragraph also touches on the user's personal experience with the G7 SE controller, which has seen extensive use and shows promising durability. The video script invites viewers to share their experiences with controllers using the j16 modules, especially those used with additional thumb grips like Control Freaks. The discussion concludes with the user's positive outlook on the future of Hall of effect sticks and a call for viewer feedback to help inform other gamers.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡K Silver's JH16 modules
💡Favor Union sticks
💡TX switch
💡Hall of effect sticks
💡Gamers G7
💡Resolution
💡Zero Dead Zone
💡Thrust Master CNK modules
💡Control Freaks
💡Longevity
Highlights
K Silver's jh16 modules are used in cheaper, licensed controllers like the enhanced by power a hair and the PDP rematch.
Turtle Beach Recon controllers also use the cheaper favor Union sticks rated for only 1 million rotations.
The TX switch used in these controllers is rated for a minimum of 100,000 presses.
Higher-end controllers like the Fusion Pro 3 use standard Alps sticks.
Victrix Gambit uses favor Union's higher module rated for 2 million rotations and a million button presses.
BFG controllers and Thrust Master use sticks with different spring strengths, a feature not offered by favor Union.
Cheaper controllers under $50 with back buttons typically have cheap sticks.
The Gamer G7 is the cheapest controller with two back buttons using the higher-quality Alps sticks.
Kilver claims their sticks offer no drift, high precision, long life, and a non-contact feel.
Kilver's j16 modules have a service life of up to 500 million cycles.
The internal structure of cheaper modules differs from higher-quality ones, affecting durability and performance.
The K Silver sticks are used in affordable controllers like the GamePad RGB by Snake Bite Air.
The Nikon Revolution 5 Pro is one of the most expensive controllers using K Silver sticks.
The Ultra controller using K Silver modules has the lowest resolution among the tested controllers.
The G7 SE by Turtle Beach, using K Silver modules, has performed well over 150 hours of game time.
The future of Hall of effect sticks looks bright, with improvements in performance and true zero Dead Zone options.
The video creator encourages viewers to share their experiences with controllers using j16 modules.
Transcripts
hey everyone it's a photot I hope you're
all doing well today's video is on K
Silver's jh16 modules so all the cheaper
license controllers like the enhanced by
power a hair and uh the PDP rematch and
to my surprise even the Turtle Beach
Recon these are using the cheaper favor
Union sticks uh which are rated for only
1 million rotation and that TX switch
that they use is only rated for a
100,000 press as a minimum sort of
rating it's only when you get up to
something like the Fusion Pro 3 that
uses the standard Els sticks or the
nonon revolution x uh again these are
using the standard Al sticks so these
are around $100 $80 to $100 or £ 88,200
here in UK uh but that's basically the
that's the norm has been that the
cheaper controllers under 50 with back
buttons they have cheap sticks and it's
only when you really move up that you
get like you know the better sticks
victrix Gambit is a little bit different
cuz the this one is
using the favor unions higher module so
these are rated for 2 million rotations
and a million button presses so uh
Victor gambade and then we have uh the
BFG controllers they are using these
sticks as well and uh another stick that
I've come across is the thrust Master
the cnk modules now cnk modules I've
mentioned this in the past if you go
online they will tell you that they have
2 million rotations 1 million button
presses but one extra thing the cnk are
doing they're giving you the ability to
basically have a different spring
strength so you can have a different
sort of like rotational force sort of
sticks uh that you can order which is
something that favor union doesn't do on
their order forms for uh their sticks
but thrustmaster is getting from cnk
I've opened them and I've seen the cnk
logo cnk is offering um that option so
all the cheaper controllers are using
these cheap favor Union Saks like I said
only 100,000 presses and they say that
you can order between 1 million and 2
million Cycles but I doubt that
anybody's ordering 2 million Cycles
because these controllers are so cheap
they're probably going for the cheapest
one and the elps like I said you'd have
to either buy a standard controller that
uses the El sticks uh or you have to um
uh move up uh in price to get the
standard l sticks uh you have to get to
the Fusion Pro 3 or you have to get up
to the neon Revolution x uh that's why I
think some of the Chinese manufacturers
they make a point of mentioning the L
sticks used because they are of higher
quality compared to the cheaper ones
also the cheapest controller with two
back buttons that is using the elf
sticks is the gamer G7 the standard G7
so kilver are saying that their sticks
if you basically Translate the text on
their website um they're saying that no
drift High Precision long life and
they're saying zero way um eliminat
drifts the non contact feel is smoother
which yeah I think most of us have
experienced with a j16 The Rocker has a
service life of up to 500 W I think this
is where um gamer have used this and
they they mentioning 5 million Cycles
minimum like you know 5 million minimum
cycles of the sticks and I think that's
to do with the spring and the rocket
that's use is not this the the magnets
because they say and the permanent
magnets are resistant to high
temperature and have no temperature
drift so big claims here uh and uh it's
um they are not giving kilver are not
giving any rating for the TX switch
that's being used inside the controller
and um I have a feeling why they've done
that when I show the internals I'll talk
a bit more about it but yeah they say 5
million Cycles so there is a failure
point and it's a 5 million Cycles
they're mentioning it so it's like more
than double what elps and the higher
favor Union sticks are claiming so here
I have um an L STI well it says is an L6
I doubt it because I bought this off
Amazon um so but it's basically made on
the L STI modules and is supposed to be
identical how uh they work and um we
have you know those normal two potenti
reports inside basically so that's the
base what we have is we have a shaft
that goes inside this resin you know the
shaft that's actually going in the
plastic U sort of thumb stick the spring
is actually inserted inside this
basically so when you are rotating it
this is the it's the spring that brings
uh it back to Center so the spring is uh
essentially sitting in the middle inside
the stick itself these cheaper modules
work a little bit differently they
actually have a spring under a platform
that holds the whole housing against
that shell so the spring is not in a
shaft or anything like you know the
shaft is separa thing it's underneath a
platform that is
holding the the metal um part that's
going in the
potentiometers so it's here it's
basically sits on top of it and uh so
the reentering spring in the cheaper
favor Union ones also is the same thing
in the higher quality ones that are used
by the
cnk uh and um and and and the victrix
Gambit and BFG it sort of like pushes it
up so the spring is underneath is much
uh bigger in diameter if you see look at
that uh compared to the elps ones and um
it's uh in the cheaper controllers the
parts are metal uh the cheaper sticks
and if you go to the higher stick
modules uh the spring changes and the
parts are uh made of plastic so this is
one of the broken modules I bought of
eBay uh it's the cnk ones so for the
thrustmaster and it's the same thing so
the plastic sort of shaft uh and you
have these two holders that sort of like
you know they move the um potentiometers
they sit on this platform and the spring
is underneath but the spring in these
higher modules definitely of better
quality uh than the ones used in the
cheaper module so that's one thing
that's quite apparent when we look at
the spring using the higher modules
compared to the ones in the cheaper ones
now the elps also the cnk the favor
Union and even the cheaper favor Union
they have TX switches on the sides uh
that sort of like you know the housing
has to have a sort of plastic tab coming
out to be able to press them uh but they
are their individual units there like
full they have their contact points they
have to be solded onto the board and
stuff uh but they are separately on the
side now let's let's quickly take a look
at the K silver ones here is the K
silver stick and you can see those two
tiny magnets are held in place inside
the plastic housing and then we have
this little tiny tab here this is
basically used to when you push it in
this is pressing the metal conductive
dome instead of the whole tag switch on
the base plate which we'll look at next
and then the shaft inside is holding the
spring in so here are the sensors on the
base one is here one is there for the
magnets to basically this one reads all
all their output and stuff and this is
the tag switch it's a metal conductive
Dome it's actually not a full tag switch
it's just the innard of a tack switch
and the little plastic tab I showed
basically pushes that in what I really
like is they've used this um film on top
of it so it's not actually metal pushing
against uh the plastic resin whatever
that is so it's not going to wear out uh
they've actually thought about that and
yeah so the contact Point has a covering
on it and uh I guess this is the reason
they haven't given a life rating to it
maybe is it 5 million whatever they've
decided that when they press it that's
what they got so they haven't given a
separate life rating to the metal
conductive Dome uh inside uh the stick
but the sticks are very easy to open and
close and the only one I was able to
actually open and close without damaging
it uh the jh16 modules so that say
something about them Kil j16
spring cnk and FV unions highes stick
module that's the spring the cheaper
sticks found in the cheap controllers
that's the spring from them and then the
elves sticks copy that I got of the eBay
that's the size of the spring there all
right once more we have the kver h16 the
highest favor unit modules the cheapest
ones and then the elves and they have
their Springs basically assembled this
is how internally these are
assembled so the K silver sticks are
being used in really affordable
controllers like the GamePad RGB by
snake bite hair which is absolutely
amazing I can't believe that they've
brought the same sticks that are being
used in like five times more expensive
controllers to this price point so I do
think snake bite is doing something very
unique uh when it comes to uh their
affordable controllers um the RGB and uh
even the pro model uh that's absolutely
amazing that they using the same kilver
j16 modules at first I was a little bit
worried that people you know the cheaper
controllers are using that but after
seeing the stick I think snake bu is
doing an amazing job of bringing these
at the most affordable price Nikon
Revolution 5 Pro is like my most
expensive controller that's using the K
silver sticks it's 008 in UK when I got
it it was like 210 something that I paid
but
different implementation same Stakes but
they have a lot more software options
and uh this is probably the highest yeah
this is definitely the highest
resolution that I've seen uh cuz every
increment is like 3.4 depending on what
shaft insert you are using so um higher
resolution than any other controller
that I've seen but yeah this is the most
expensive one and it's using the cas
stakes and the modules are heavier
because they have metal shafts and the
top is heavy and stuff so we'll see uh
what happens with it in terms of
longevity but yeah so very expensive
controller using the same six stealth
Ultra again using the Kil j16 modules
this one has the lowest resolution I
made a video on it uh you can check it
out but performance- wise again really
good and um this one I would say has
about 50 hours of game time so this I I
I'm going to keep on playing with my G7
SE for the longevity but yet
performance- wise uh with the low
resolution how they've implemented
Turtle Beach yeah this is performing
really well as well my G7 SE has the
most game time at least over 150 hours
now and I am actually uh playing a lot
more with it because I want to see what
the failure point is going to be cuz I
use Control Freaks and I am really
interested to see what happens with that
little spring with the added weight of
control freaks while gaming so I would
like to ask you guys to definitely share
your experience and your thoughts um
especially what you feel like you do you
like the j16 modules are you thinking
that uh it's a mistake for these sticks
to be used in the more expensive
controllers personally speaking for me
after opening them and seeing how
they've been engineered I'm okay I think
I I can see a reason why uh the
manufacturers like nonon and Turtle
Beach decided to go with K Sila uh
because that 5 million rotation claim
that they are making I think it will
hold true cuz I have serious amount of
game time like I said on my G7 SE with
Control Freaks and the sticks are the
slop is actually really good uh
considering what I have with controllers
that have a similar amount of game times
like using a different uh sticks I do
think these sticks are not comparable
like they are not one to one apparity
with a really good implementation of
elps or the favor Union or cnk sticks I
think thrust Master is doing amazing
things with the resolution and how they
have those cnk modules uh calibrated and
stuff but I do think that we can get
there especially now we getting true
zero Dead Zone options uh from a lot of
Manufacturers turtle be still lacking
and I do hope that they Implement a true
zero Dead Zone option as well cuz it's
getting to a point where I don't think
it's a Pro Controller if it has any dead
zones I'll make a separate video on that
talking especially about the bug that
happened to me in the Modern Warfare 3
now it's happened four times now uh but
yeah that's a separate video so I do
think uh the future is definitely bright
for Hall of effect Stakes cuz initially
went this I made a review of the G7 SEI
mentioned that I felt it was very
sluggish uh but yeah no they are
performing well and like I said I would
like to know your thoughts your
experiences and what do you think
especially if you have a controller with
a lot of game time with the J 16 and if
you were using control fix or any other
thumb grip or whatever you know that
adds weight I'm very interested to know
what's happened with your Stakes how
much is the slop what do you think and
what are your thoughts so not only going
to help me out it will help a lot of
other Gamers out as well and once again
guys thank you so much for everyone who
subscribed your support me means a lot
and I hope this video was um you know
had some useful information in there it
was definitely interesting for me thank
you so much for watching it hopefully
I'll catch you in one of my other videos
bye for
now
Посмотреть больше похожих видео
Sistem Komputer Kelas XII Informatika Kurikulum Merdeka Part 1
Мёртвые зоны. Бомбит от обзоров. Почему НЕ СТОИТ ЭКОНОМИТЬ на ГЕЙМПАДАХ, на примере Canyon CND-GPW3
Why is Everyone Buying This Controller?
8bitdo Controller Buying Guide: Ultimate Bluetooth vs. Ultimate 2.4 vs. Pro 2
Best DJ Gear for Every Budget!
PID Controller Explained
5.0 / 5 (0 votes)