“90% SHIA HADITHS ARE 🧢!” | A response to Adnan Rashid about Shia Hadiths

The Believers
3 Jun 202418:09

Summary

TLDRThis video aims to refute claims made by Adnan Rashid, who argues that 90% of Shia hadiths are fabricated. The speaker challenges this assertion by citing historical sources, including respected Sunni scholars, to demonstrate the reliability of Shia narrations and the distinct jurisprudence developed by the Shia Imams. The video examines works of prominent scholars like Ibn Taymiyyah and Imam Malik, debunking accusations against the Shia and defending the integrity of their religious teachings. The speaker urges viewers to critically assess these historical claims and respect the Shia tradition.

Takeaways

  • 🤔 The speaker is refuting the claims made by a person referred to as 'Nasi,' who accuses the Shia of fabricating 90% of their Hadith corpus.
  • 📜 The speaker asserts that 90% of what opponents claim about the Shia narrations is false and aims to refute these accusations.
  • 🧐 The speaker highlights the credibility of early scholars who referenced Imams and explains that the imams had their own jurisprudence system.
  • 🕌 Sunni scholars allegedly adopted their own jurisprudence systems and criticized the Shia's attribution of teachings to the Imams.
  • 📚 The speaker quotes Ibn Taymiyyah, stating that the majority of Shia transmissions regarding Islamic law are truthful, despite some occasional mistakes.
  • 🕵️ The speaker uses math and references to the four main Shia books to argue that over 80% of the narrations are accurate based on Sunni standards.
  • ⚔️ The speaker emphasizes the importance of responding to claims that disrespect the Shia Imams and their teachings.
  • 📖 The speaker references several sources, including Imam Malik, to argue that Sunni scholars often did not respect or trust narrations from Shia Imams.
  • 📘 The speaker brings attention to Sunni scholars who allegedly criticized and mocked narrations from certain Shia scholars, citing issues with memory and reliability.
  • 🎯 The speaker concludes that the Sunni scholars distanced themselves from later Shia Imams and avoided their teachings, suggesting a deliberate neglect of their contributions.

Q & A

  • What is the main claim being refuted in the video?

    -The main claim being refuted is that 90% of the Shia Corpus of Hadith is fabricated and forged, a claim made by Adan Rashid.

  • How does the speaker plan to refute the claim that Shia teachings are fabricated?

    -The speaker plans to refute the claim by proving that the Shia Imams had their own system of jurisprudence and that the teachings attributed to them are not fabricated.

  • Who is the first scholar referenced to support the refutation, and what is their contribution?

    -The first scholar referenced is Abu Ja'far Muhammad ibn Jarir al-Tabari, who is cited as an old and well-respected scholar. His works are used to demonstrate that the Imams had their own jurisprudence.

  • What does Ibn Taymiyyah say about Shia narrations regarding Islamic law?

    -Ibn Taymiyyah admits that the majority of Shia transmissions regarding Islamic law are accurate and truthful, although there may be some instances of unintentional or deliberate falsehood.

  • How does the speaker use Ibn Taymiyyah's admission to refute the 90% fabrication claim?

    -The speaker uses Ibn Taymiyyah's admission to show that the vast majority of Shia narrations are reliable, directly contradicting the claim that 90% of them are fabricated.

  • What is the significance of Imam Malik's attitude towards narrating from Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq?

    -Imam Malik's hesitation to narrate from Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq, until corroborated by other narrators, is used to argue that Sunni scholars did not always respect the Shia Imams or their narrations.

  • What does the speaker say about the treatment of Shia Imams by Sunni scholars in the city of Basra?

    -The speaker mentions that in Basra, a predominantly Sunni city, narrations from Shia Imams were not welcomed, and scholars would mock those who narrated from them.

  • How does the speaker address the issue of reliability in narrations attributed to Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq?

    -The speaker refutes claims of unreliability by pointing out that even Sunni scholars like Ibn Hajar al-Asqalani admitted that narrations from Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq were reliable as long as they were not from his sons.

  • What conclusion does the speaker reach regarding Sunni scholars' treatment of later Shia Imams?

    -The speaker concludes that by the time of later Shia Imams, the Sunni community had largely ignored them, resulting in few Sunni narrations about these Imams, while the Shia community continued to preserve their teachings.

  • What is the speaker's final message to the audience?

    -The speaker encourages the audience to comment, watch other videos, and like and subscribe to the channel, as it helps them out greatly.

Outlines

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🧐 Refuting Claims about Imam Teachings and Fabrication

The speaker begins by addressing a claim that 90% of the teachings attributed to prominent imams such as Imam Muhammad al-Baqir, Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq, and Imam Musa al-Kazim are fabricated. The speaker refutes this, arguing that these imams had their own established systems of jurisprudence. He cites a respected scholar to support his position and challenges those who claim that the imams' teachings are falsely attributed.

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📜 Scholarly Critique of Imam Teachings

In this section, the speaker refers to historical scholars who critiqued the imams' jurisprudence. He quotes a sociologist and historian who acknowledged that the imams established their own legal systems, based on principles such as infallibility and the prohibition of criticizing their teachings. Despite this critique, the speaker points out that these same scholars often admitted the accuracy of the Shia imams' teachings in matters of Islamic law.

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🔍 Examining Trust in Imam Narrations

Here, the speaker delves into the trustworthiness of narrations from the imams, especially in Sunni circles. He explains that certain Sunni scholars were hesitant to narrate hadiths from imams like Imam Ja'far, particularly without corroboration. The speaker emphasizes that this distrust highlights a broader bias against the Shia imams in certain historical contexts.

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🤔 Doubts about Imam Narrations from Their Own Family

This paragraph explores doubts raised about the reliability of narrations from the imams' descendants. The speaker cites a Sunni scholar who claims that narrations from Imam Muhammad al-Baqir’s children are questionable. He further challenges accusations that Shia scholars fabricate narrations, underscoring the ongoing Sunni-Shia debate over the authenticity of various hadith collections.

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Keywords

💡Nasi

In the script, 'Nasi' appears to refer to someone from a different Islamic sect or a critic of Shia Islam. The speaker uses this term when refuting a person who made claims against the authenticity of Shia hadiths. The term 'Nasi' is pivotal in understanding the script's argumentative stance, as it represents the opposing viewpoint being challenged.

💡Imam

An 'Imam' in Islamic context is a leader or a religious authority, often seen as a spiritual guide. In this script, multiple Imams are mentioned, such as Imam Muhammad al-Baqir, Imam Ja'far al-Sadiq, and Imam Musa al-Kazim. The speaker discusses the attribution of teachings to these Imams and refutes the claim that 90% of what is attributed to them is fabricated, underscoring their importance in Shia Islam.

💡Hadith

Hadith refers to the sayings, actions, and approvals of the Prophet Muhammad, which serve as a source of Islamic law and moral guidance. In the script, the authenticity of Shia hadiths is a major point of contention. The speaker aims to refute claims that a large portion of Shia hadiths is fabricated, suggesting that their transmission from the Imams is reliable.

💡Jurisprudence

Islamic jurisprudence, or 'fiqh,' is the understanding and interpretation of Islamic law. The script refers to the unique jurisprudence developed by Shia Imams, highlighting that the Imams had their own legal systems and methods, which differ from Sunni interpretations. This concept is crucial to the argument that Shia jurisprudence is distinct yet authentic.

💡Shia

'Shia' refers to the second-largest branch of Islam, which holds that leadership should remain within the Prophet Muhammad's family, particularly through Ali, the Prophet's cousin. The script focuses on defending Shia beliefs and practices, especially their approach to Hadith and the teachings of their Imams, against claims from non-Shia scholars.

💡Sunni

'Sunni' is the largest branch of Islam, which differs from Shia Islam in its interpretation of leadership succession after the Prophet Muhammad. In the script, the speaker contrasts Sunni and Shia approaches to Islamic jurisprudence and Hadith, often suggesting that Sunni scholars have misunderstood or misrepresented Shia teachings and traditions.

💡Fabrication

'Fabrication' in the context of this script refers to the accusation that many of the hadiths attributed to Shia Imams are not genuine and have been falsely attributed. The speaker aims to refute this claim by referencing Sunni scholars who acknowledge the authenticity of a significant portion of Shia hadiths, thereby challenging the concept of widespread fabrication.

💡Consensus

In Islamic theology, 'consensus' (Ijma) is a source of law that represents the collective agreement of Islamic scholars on a particular issue. The script mentions the concept of consensus in the context of Shia views on the authority of their Imams, suggesting that Shia scholars consider the consensus of their community as infallible, which is disputed by some Sunni scholars.

💡Reliability

'Reliability' refers to the trustworthiness of a narrator or source in the transmission of Hadith. The speaker discusses the reliability of various narrators and the authenticity of hadith collections, arguing against claims that Shia narrations are unreliable. This concept is central to the debate about the authenticity of Islamic teachings within different sects.

💡Refutation

'Refutation' is a key theme of the script, as the speaker systematically challenges the claims made by a critic regarding the authenticity of Shia teachings. The speaker uses historical sources, scholarly references, and logical reasoning to counter the accusation that most Shia hadiths are fabricated, making 'refutation' a core element of the video's message.

Highlights

The speaker refutes the claim that 90% of Shia Hadith is fabricated, a claim made by the speaker's opponents.

The speaker argues that Imams had their own system of jurisprudence, and that this is acknowledged in very old and respected sources.

The argument includes a reference to Imam Muhammad and Imam Jafar Sadiq, stating that their teachings are often misrepresented.

The speaker presents evidence from a historical source on page 354 that the Imams themselves created their own jurisprudence based on the idea of infallibility.

Ibn Taymiyyah is cited as acknowledging that the majority of Shia transmissions regarding Islamic law are truthful.

The speaker emphasizes that Ibn Taymiyyah's standard validates more than 80% of the Shia Hadith corpus as accurate.

The speaker challenges the respect Sunni Imams had for Imam Jafar Sadiq, claiming that Imam Malik only narrated from Jafar after political power shifted.

The speaker quotes Sunni sources that express distrust in narrations from certain Shia figures, including Imam Jafar Sadiq.

Sunnis historically mocked those who narrated Hadith from certain Shia Imams, considering their Hadith weak.

The speaker quotes a Sunni source that asserts Imam Jafar's narrations from his children are considered unreliable.

There is a focus on how Sunni scholars label narrations from certain Imams as weak, bad in memory, or immoral.

The speaker argues that after Imam Jafar, the Sunni community distanced themselves from Shia Imams due to the growth of the Shia community.

The speaker emphasizes that Shia Imams stopped caring about the Sunni scholars because they were focused on teaching their own followers.

The refutation ends by claiming that the Sunni community had no significant Hadith from Shia Imams after Imam Jafar.

The video concludes with a call to action, urging viewers to comment, like, and subscribe to support the channel.

Transcripts

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today we are going to be refuting a Nasi

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and we're just going to dive right into

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it let us take a look at what this Nasi

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has said and even Imam Muhammad albak

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and IM IM ja sadik and Imam Musa kazim

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and all the others who came after they

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attribute teachings to them which they

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never said so I would with confidence

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tell you that 90% of what you find

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in is all fabricated and forged

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90% this is a very very simple claim and

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it is a claim that many of our opponents

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many of the M have been making and

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inshallah I aim to completely refute

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this nonsense

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inshallah firstly when it comes to the

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claim that the sh do not take from IM or

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do not take from IM or do not take from

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IM and rather what they attribute to

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them is lies in order to refute this we

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first have to prove that these imams had

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their own system of the First Source we

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are be going to be referring to is

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is a very very old very well-respected

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scholar for the and he is sometimes

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known

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as page 125 the print of we read the

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following as from muhami his was Abu ja

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and he had his own he had his own Juris

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Prudence with the

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kindly show us which of their four goes

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back to IM

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muhamed or which of their books of have

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the reports of Muhammed and

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his continuing on

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in English ask for

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IM he mentions that IM had two sons

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Muhammad and abdah Muhammad their mother

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was Muhammed their grandmother was as

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ABD

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abak as for JA Muhammad he was known as

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AB abdah

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and the sect is attributed to him he

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died in Medina in the year 146 after and

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he had

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descendants now here's the thing this is

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a very very old source as in we are

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talking about a scholar who is alive and

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writing during the time

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of why is he saying that IM and IM had

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their own Juris Prudence if these imams

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had their own jurist Prudence why do the

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sunnis who claim to be following the IMS

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while we are the Liars we are the ones

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who misattribute things to them why are

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we the only ones who follow their why

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are we the only ones that have

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narrations going back to them when it

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comes

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to the next Source we're going to be

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looking at is the

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of is a scholar who requires no

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introduction no pun intended his m is

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one of the most famous books that the

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Muslim world ever produced in both the

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East and the West in

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the in the print on page

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354 says the

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following in English and the innovated

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some Ms and they themselves came up with

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their own Juris Prudence they based it

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upon the abuse of some of the sah saying

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that the IMs are infallible and

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forbidding the criticism of their

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statements all of these are futile

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principles so here we have the great

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sociologist and historian admitting that

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these come from

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the that these are the result of the

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themselves no one is lying on the they

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themselves came up with these mhbs and

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they their is separate it is unique and

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it is built upon the foundations is of

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the and the belief that their IMS are

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and he of course believes these are

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futile principles

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lastly and I wish to refute the using

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his own Master

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Now by who the refer to as

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Islam says the following regarding the

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of the Shia he says for

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so I T here in English he is saying the

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Shia consider their imams to beum like

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the prophet Sall alai wasam and they

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attribute everything they say to the

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prophet Sall alai wasam they also regard

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the consensus the of their sect as an

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infallible Authority based on these

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three principles they have described

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their Rel they have established their

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religious laws however the majority of

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what they derive from the Islamic Shar

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is in agreement with the majority of the

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Muslims and there are some areas of

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consensus some matters are disputed

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among even Sunni Muslims the prevalent

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view is that the statements attributed

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to these imams by the Shia regarding

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matters of Islamic law are generally

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truthful as in IB Tamia himself is

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admitting that the vast majority of Shia

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narrations regarding and Islamic law are

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truthful however there might be some

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instances of unintentional or deliberate

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falsehood their statements are treated

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similarly to those of their counterparts

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among the Muslim

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scholars in this clip we see Adan Rashid

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this Nasi through pure conjecture claim

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that 90% of the Shia Corpus of Hadith is

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fabricated so let's do some basic math

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if we look at what ibia says he says

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that the majority of Shia Transmissions

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regarding f is accurate it is truthful

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he says that we transmit the of the

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imams reliably now let's look at the

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four main books of of the Shia that he

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listed alfi

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the last three are almost

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entirely so according to the vast

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majority of those books are reliable now

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70% of Ali is related and that is about

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12,000 narrations that means that by the

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standard set by IB Tamia over 80% of our

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four main books of are accurate in what

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they ascribe to the IMs of

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the I could easily stop here however

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when we wish to refute the when we see

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that they have crossed the line of

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disrespecting our IMS and disrespecting

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the sh of the we must always have a

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response so now let's take a look at

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what the have to say about

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our the first person we are going to

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quote is their beloved IM

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Malik print inv Volume 2 page 134 or I'm

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sorry 143 to 144 he says the

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following and we see the bio of the IM

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begins on page 143 on the next page he

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says in English

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according

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to Malik would not narrate from mammad

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until Rose to power so this idea that

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the Sunni IM had a great level of

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respect for JA is completely false he

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only started narrating from IM when it

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became clear that the nas were no longer

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running the Muslim empire correct

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secondly according

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todah he says Malik would not narrate

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from jaur until he linked it with those

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narrators who are high and then he would

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put's narration after

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it he would not narrate from until

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someone else corroborated what

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said this in simple terms means that IM

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that Malik did not trust's narration if

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we look

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at when we go

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to

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by volume 7 page 533 to 534 he says the

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following

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according to wheni heard some criticism

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regarding IM

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from he refrained from narrating a

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single Hadith from him in his

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book another example of how much the

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love and respect IM can be found once

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again

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in on page page 144 of the second volume

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he says the following

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that

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narrated and of course concedes

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that he

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says now for those of you who may not

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know Islamic history very well B during

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this time was a Sunni Center shiism was

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intensely disliked and persecuted in BAS

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kufa was a city that was far more sh

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friendly so met with the B which as we

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said is a mostly Sunni mostly City so he

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said to

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them rather they said to

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him do not narrate to us from three

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people we do not want the reports of

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so according to he is upset with these

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buling if you were in kufa and you said

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this about IM you would have gotten the

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shoe we now look

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at volume 1 page 388 and a is written by

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the Great Western scholar from andalus

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abdb ABD Maliki records the following in

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his

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book in volume

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one page

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388 in the bio

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of he

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says according

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to his memorizing was not very

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good

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in gives us another example of the

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respect that the M had for IM he

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narrates in volume 6 page 91 the

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following so according to

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sufyan we used to laugh at people who

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used to take Hadith from the following

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as we used to Mock and make fun of

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anyone who took these three narrators

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seriously the last of them

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is because they were not good when it

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came to

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Hadith lastly we shall

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quote in his report regarding IM in his

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famous book

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volume 1 page

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574 which is where the bio begins to

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page 575 which is where I will be

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quoting from bio number

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1,120 I ha records the following on the

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authority

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ofb the

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famous he narrated a lot of Hadith

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Subhan Allah if you look at the Sunni

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book you would never know that narrated

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a lot ofth but he is not reliable and he

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is considered

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weak Subhan Allah but we are the ones

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who lie on IM we the ones who accurately

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transmitted his according to their Islam

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and there other Scholars such

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as admit he had his own then you have

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the Sunni Scholars mocking people who

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narrate from him claiming he has bad

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memory claiming he is weak in Hadith but

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Subhan Allah we are the ones who are

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fake when it comes to following

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the that's Muhammad for brevity sake I

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will narrate or show one reference

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regarding this

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is volume 3 page 251 bio number

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573 records the biography of

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IM and he says something about his son

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IM

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according to is fine his narration is

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reliable as long as it has been narrated

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from other than his children because the

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reports of his children from him are

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very M now when we look at another book

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by IB

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haar and this book is known

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as on page 86 and then also on page0 he

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says is what has been n I'm

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sorry the narrator of a report is very

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bad we further read

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one whose mistakes are abysmal or his

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negligence is massive or he has shown

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immorality his Hadi is so according to

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this Nasi who claims that we neglect IM

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and we fabricate things on M ja

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according toan who is one of their major

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Scholars he

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is as he says regarding IM his sons

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narrate things from him

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and

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IM is one of his sons so according to

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this would mean that his mistakes are

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abysmal or his negligence is massive or

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he has shown immorality thus his

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is in any case we will stop here and the

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reason why is because when it comes to

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our imams after IM

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the generally do not have biographies of

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them because they barely have any Hadith

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from them because by that time the Shia

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Community had grown so big that the M

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simply stayed away from our imams and

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our imams simply did not care about the

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M they were too busy teaching their

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teaching them and passing on the wisdom

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ofam but with that being said we will

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bring this reputation to a close I hope

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