Author Rebecca MacKinnon on the Global Struggle For Internet Freedom

Summary

En esta entrevista con Rebecca McKinnon, se discuten los desafíos que enfrenta la libertad en internet, destacando cómo el internet, aunque es un poderoso medio para la democracia y la creatividad, también puede ser utilizado por gobiernos autoritarios y corporaciones para censurar y vigilar a los ciudadanos. McKinnon menciona ejemplos de China, Facebook y Apple, subrayando la necesidad de que la evolución de internet sea compatible con los valores democráticos y proteja los derechos de los usuarios. Además, se aborda la importancia de la protesta contra legislaciones como SOPA y PIPA.

Takeaways

• 🌐 El Internet se considera una fuerza liberadora, pero también se usa para la vigilancia y represión de libertades civiles.
• 🔒 La legislación como SOPA y PIPA plantea preguntas sobre quién controla el acceso y el contenido en línea, lo que podría tener consecuencias políticas.
• 📱 Los gobiernos autoritarios están adaptando nuevas formas de censura y vigilancia en la era de Internet, utilizando empresas privadas para controlar el contenido.
• 🇨🇳 En China, las empresas locales de Internet son responsables de monitorear y censurar a los usuarios para cumplir con las demandas del gobierno.
• 📵 En democracias, la censura en línea, inicialmente destinada a proteger la seguridad y el orden público, puede expandirse más allá de su propósito original.
• 👤 Las configuraciones de privacidad son cruciales, especialmente cuando los gobiernos pueden monitorear y acceder a publicaciones en línea sin restricciones.
• ⚖️ Las leyes de privacidad y acceso del gobierno a la información en línea están erosionando derechos fundamentales como la protección contra búsquedas y confiscaciones irrazonables.
• 💻 Las empresas como Facebook, Apple y Amazon han tomado decisiones que restringen la libertad de expresión, incluso cuando no se han cometido delitos.
• 📅 Las protestas en línea, como el apagón de Wikipedia, subrayan la preocupación generalizada por la censura en Internet, incluso en países democráticos.
• 🛡️ La evolución de Internet debe garantizar que sea compatible con los valores democráticos, protegiendo los derechos de los usuarios en el espacio digital.

Q & A

¿Cuál es el papel de Internet en la organización política y el activismo, según Rebecca McKinnon?

Rebecca McKinnon explica que Internet y las plataformas digitales son fundamentales para la vida política y el activismo, permitiendo a los ciudadanos organizarse y participar en el discurso político. Sin embargo, también advierte que estas plataformas están sujetas al control tanto de gobiernos como de corporaciones, lo que puede limitar la libertad de expresión y la capacidad de organización.

¿Por qué Rebecca McKinnon considera preocupante la legislación como SOPA y PIPA?

McKinnon considera que leyes como SOPA y PIPA son preocupantes porque otorgan demasiado poder a entidades gubernamentales y corporativas para decidir lo que los usuarios pueden ver y hacer en Internet. Esto puede llevar a abusos de poder y a restricciones en la libertad de expresión y acceso a la información.

¿Qué es el 'Control 2.0' y cómo lo utiliza China, según la autora?

El 'Control 2.0' se refiere a la forma en que los gobiernos autoritarios, como China, están evolucionando en la era de Internet. En lugar de cortar el acceso a Internet, China lo expande pero controla estrictamente el contenido que sus ciudadanos pueden ver. Utilizan empresas privadas para llevar a cabo la censura y vigilancia, manteniendo un control rígido sin desconectar a la población de la red global.

¿Cómo afecta la política de nombres reales de Facebook a los activistas en regímenes autoritarios?

La política de Facebook que exige el uso de nombres reales expone a los activistas a riesgos, especialmente en regímenes autoritarios. McKinnon menciona el caso de Egipto, donde los activistas que usaban nombres falsos tuvieron sus cuentas cerradas, dificultando su capacidad de organización y exponiéndolos a represalias gubernamentales.

¿Qué crítica tiene McKinnon sobre las políticas de censura de empresas como Apple y Amazon?

McKinnon critica a empresas como Apple y Amazon por censurar contenido en sus plataformas que consideran controvertido, incluso cuando es legal según las leyes de derechos humanos y la Constitución de los Estados Unidos. Por ejemplo, Apple censuró aplicaciones como la del Dalai Lama en China y contenido satírico en EE.UU., mientras que Amazon dejó de alojar WikiLeaks bajo presión política.

¿Qué problemas señala McKinnon con respecto a la vigilancia y la privacidad en la era digital?

McKinnon destaca la erosión de los derechos de privacidad debido a la vigilancia gubernamental y corporativa. Menciona cómo leyes como el Acta Patriota facilitan el acceso del gobierno a correos electrónicos y datos en servidores corporativos sin una orden judicial, lo que supone una amenaza para los derechos de privacidad protegidos por la Constitución.

¿Qué impacto tiene la censura de Internet en las democracias según McKinnon?

McKinnon argumenta que la censura en Internet no solo es un problema en regímenes autoritarios, sino también en democracias donde leyes y políticas pueden limitar el acceso a información y restringir la libertad de expresión. Esto ocurre cuando las leyes se aplican más allá de su intención original, lo que ella llama 'creep de misión'.

¿Por qué es importante que las personas comprendan cómo evoluciona Internet, según McKinnon?

Según McKinnon, es fundamental que los ciudadanos comprendan que la evolución de Internet no es un fenómeno natural, sino algo que depende de las decisiones que tomemos como usuarios, consumidores y votantes. Es crucial asegurarse de que Internet evolucione de manera que sea compatible con los valores democráticos y no solo para beneficiar a gobiernos autoritarios o grandes corporaciones.

¿Qué cambios en las políticas de privacidad de Facebook generaron preocupación y qué acciones se tomaron?

Las políticas de privacidad de Facebook generaron preocupación cuando, a fines de 2009, cambiaron sin previo aviso, exponiendo información privada de los usuarios. Como resultado, la Comisión Federal de Comercio de EE.UU. multó a Facebook y alcanzó un acuerdo para proteger mejor la privacidad de sus usuarios.

¿Cuál es la postura de McKinnon sobre el papel de las empresas tecnológicas en la protección de los derechos de los usuarios?

McKinnon cree que las empresas tecnológicas deben considerar más cuidadosamente los derechos de privacidad y libertad de expresión de sus usuarios. Las decisiones que estas empresas toman sobre qué contenido permitir o bloquear pueden tener grandes implicaciones para la capacidad de los usuarios de ejercer sus derechos democráticos y hablar en contra del poder.

Outlines

00:00

🌐 El papel de Internet en la lucha por la libertad digital

Rebecca McKinnon explica cómo el internet, aunque se ve como una fuerza liberadora, también es utilizado para vigilar y restringir derechos civiles. Habla de cómo plataformas y servicios que usamos diariamente son controlados por gobiernos y corporaciones, afectando lo que podemos ver, publicar y acceder. Además, menciona la importancia de la lucha legislativa en EE.UU., como con las leyes SOPA y PIPA, que podrían otorgar demasiado poder sobre la libertad digital.

05:02

🕵️‍♀️ Censura en democracias y dictaduras

McKinnon expone cómo el internet puede empoderar tanto a dictadores como a demócratas, y cómo la censura no es exclusiva de regímenes autoritarios. En democracias como EE.UU. y Europa, las leyes que buscan proteger derechos pueden terminar censurando más allá de lo previsto. Además, alerta sobre la dificultad de controlar la expansión de la censura una vez implementada.

10:03

📱 El control gubernamental y las empresas privadas

La autora detalla cómo China ha mantenido su autoritarismo a pesar de la expansión del internet, delegando a empresas privadas la tarea de censurar y vigilar. Las grandes corporaciones como Facebook, Google y Apple también juegan un rol controversial, ya que sus decisiones pueden limitar la libertad de expresión, como con la censura de apps o la exposición de identidades de activistas en lugares como Egipto o Irán.

15:05

🔐 La privacidad y las vulnerabilidades en las redes sociales

McKinnon aborda casos específicos de vulnerabilidades en plataformas como Facebook, donde activistas en Egipto perdieron acceso a sus cuentas por violar políticas de nombres reales. También menciona cómo gobiernos autoritarios, como Irán, utilizan redes sociales para obtener información que puede ser utilizada en torturas, y cómo cambios repentinos en configuraciones de privacidad han expuesto a usuarios a peligros.

🛡️ Erosión de la privacidad y la vigilancia gubernamental

La discusión gira en torno a cómo las leyes recientes en EE.UU. han facilitado el acceso del gobierno a datos privados sin las protecciones que históricamente se aplicaban a la correspondencia física. McKinnon critica que la privacidad en correos electrónicos y otros datos almacenados en servidores de empresas privadas ha sido erosionada, permitiendo un acceso casi ilimitado por parte de agencias gubernamentales.

🌍 La protesta global contra la censura en internet

El cierre temporal de sitios como Wikipedia en protesta por leyes de censura en EE.UU. es un ejemplo de cómo la censura afecta tanto a democracias como a dictaduras. McKinnon concluye subrayando que es responsabilidad de todos, como usuarios y votantes, asegurar que el internet siga siendo un espacio compatible con los valores democráticos.

Keywords

💡Guerra en Vietnam

La guerra en Vietnam es un conflicto que ocurrió entre 1955 y 1975, involucrando a Vietnam del Norte y del Sur, con la participación de Estados Unidos apoyando al sur. En el contexto del video, se menciona como un ejemplo histórico de una guerra controversial y debatida, similar a la lucha actual por la libertad en internet y la vigilancia estatal.

💡Libertad en internet

La libertad en internet se refiere a la capacidad de los usuarios para acceder, compartir y publicar contenido sin restricciones indebidas por parte de gobiernos o corporaciones. En el video, se discute cómo esta libertad está en riesgo debido a la censura y la vigilancia, tanto por gobiernos autoritarios como por corporaciones que controlan las plataformas digitales.

💡Censura

La censura es la supresión o control de información, generalmente por parte de un gobierno o una corporación, para limitar lo que la gente puede ver o decir. El video subraya cómo la censura en internet se está expandiendo, no solo en países autoritarios como China, sino también en democracias que imponen restricciones por motivos de seguridad o moralidad pública.

💡Surveillance

La vigilancia implica la monitorización y recopilación de datos sobre las actividades de los individuos, usualmente por parte de gobiernos o corporaciones. En el video, se discute cómo la vigilancia en internet, a menudo realizada por empresas privadas bajo órdenes gubernamentales, puede llevar a la represión de la disidencia política y la violación de los derechos de privacidad.

💡Primavera Árabe

La Primavera Árabe fue una serie de levantamientos y protestas en varios países del Medio Oriente y el norte de África, comenzando en 2010, que llevaron al derrocamiento de varios regímenes autoritarios. El video menciona cómo internet y las redes sociales jugaron un papel clave en la organización de estas protestas, aunque también se destaca que el papel de internet en la construcción de democracias estables en esas regiones es aún incierto.

💡Acta de Protección de la Propiedad Intelectual (PIPA)

El Acta de Protección de la Propiedad Intelectual (PIPA) fue una propuesta de ley en Estados Unidos destinada a expandir las capacidades del gobierno y los titulares de derechos de autor para combatir la piratería en internet. En el video, se menciona en el contexto de un debate más amplio sobre el poder y la responsabilidad de las corporaciones y gobiernos en la regulación del contenido en internet.

💡Primera Enmienda

La Primera Enmienda de la Constitución de Estados Unidos protege la libertad de expresión, prensa, religión, reunión y petición. En el video, se discute cómo ciertas decisiones de las empresas de tecnología, como Apple al censurar aplicaciones políticas, pueden ir en contra de los derechos protegidos por la Primera Enmienda, a pesar de operar dentro de una democracia.

💡Gran Cortafuegos de China

El Gran Cortafuegos de China es una iniciativa del gobierno chino para controlar y filtrar el contenido de internet que se considera políticamente sensible o peligroso para el régimen. En el video, se describe como un ejemplo de 'Control 2.0', donde un estado autoritario puede mantener la estabilidad al controlar lo que sus ciudadanos pueden ver y discutir en línea.

💡Amazon y Wikileaks

El video menciona cómo Amazon decidió retirar su servicio de alojamiento a Wikileaks tras las presiones políticas de Estados Unidos, a pesar de que Wikileaks no había sido acusado de ningún crimen. Este ejemplo se utiliza para ilustrar cómo las decisiones corporativas pueden impactar la libertad de expresión y cómo las empresas pueden ceder ante las presiones gubernamentales en lugar de proteger los derechos de sus usuarios.

💡Democracia

La democracia es un sistema de gobierno en el que el poder es ejercido por el pueblo, a menudo a través de representantes electos. En el video, se explora cómo la evolución del internet y las políticas que lo regulan pueden afectar la salud de las democracias, subrayando la importancia de mantener un internet libre y abierto para asegurar que los derechos democráticos sean respetados y protegidos.

Highlights

The internet has been touted as a liberating force but is often used for surveillance and cracking down on civil liberties.

Internet services are vital for political discourse and activism, making accountability for those in power crucial.

The SOPA and PIPA legislations raise concerns over who controls what people can access online, risking potential political consequences.

Existing copyright laws have been abused to prevent critics from speaking out.

The internet empowers everyone – from activists to dictators, democrats to criminals, making governance crucial.

Ensuring the internet evolves in a way that supports democratic values is critical to prevent power abuses.

Countries like Tunisia, post-Arab Spring, are grappling with censorship and surveillance debates in their new democracies.

Even democratic countries are enacting censorship laws that risk political misuse and can expand beyond their original intent.

China exemplifies how an authoritarian state can survive the internet age through a mix of censorship, surveillance, and filtering.

Private corporations in China are heavily involved in censoring and monitoring internet users at the state's request.

Facebook’s policy of requiring real names has exposed activists in countries like Egypt and Iran to governmental repression.

Privacy settings on social media platforms like Facebook and Twitter are vital as governments increasingly monitor online activities.

Companies like Apple have censored politically sensitive apps, like those related to the Dalai Lama, to comply with national regulations.

Amazon dropped WikiLeaks under political pressure, raising concerns about companies’ role in protecting free expression rights.

The erosion of privacy rights under laws like the Patriot Act allows easier access to private data stored on corporate servers.

Transcripts

why I oppose the war in Vietnam this is

democracy Now democracynow.org The War

and Peace report I'm Amy Goodman we're

joined by Rebecca mckinon in Washington

DC author of consent of the network the

worldwide struggle for internet Freedom

we welcome you to democracy Now um

Rebecca the internet has been touted as

such a tremendous liberating Force when

we look at the events of this past year

um the uprising throughout the Middle

East part of the discussion of how that

moment came is because of the internet

uh because of social media and yet you

talk about more often than not the

internet is being used to spy on to

crack down on spy on people crack down

on civil liberties talk about what you

have found and how this relates to the

legislation that we're seeing now being

developed in

Washington well thanks very much Amy for

having me on here today and just to

connect uh my book to the the issues

that you were just discussing in the

previous segment about um uh the protect

IP Act and the stop online piracy act I

think the reason why this these issues

are so important for ordinary Americans

and really go beyond um just sort of a

nerdy geeky technical issue is that in

in today's society we as Citizens

increasingly depend on Internet services

and platforms mobile services and

platforms not only for our personal

lives and our businesses and our jobs

but also for our political discourse and

political activism um getting involved

with politics and so it's very important

that people who are exercising power

whether they're corporate or whether

they're government um that are

exercising power over what we can see

over what we can access over what we can

publish and transmit through these

digital spaces um need to be held

accountable and we need to make sure

that power is not being abused in these

digital spaces and platforms that we

depend on and so that's why uh this

soapa and pea legislation and the fight

over it is so important it's is who are

you empowering to decide um what people

can and cannot see and do on the

internet and how do you make sure that

that that power is not going to be

abused

in ways that could have political

consequences and we've actually seen how

um existing copyright law has sometimes

been abused um by different actors who

want to prevent critics from speaking

out um and but but coming back to the

Arab Spring my my book is not about

whether the good guys or the bad guys

are winning on the internet the internet

is empowering everybody it's empowering

Democrats it's empowering dictators it's

empowering criminals it's empowering uh

people who are doing really wonderful

and creative things but the issue really

is how do we ensure that the internet

evolves in a manner that remains

consistent with our democratic values

and that continues to support people's

ability to use these Technologies for

descent and political organizing and

while the internet was part of the story

in the Arab Spring in terms of how

people were able to organize it's not so

clear to what extent it's going to be

part of the story in terms of building

stable democracies in in countries like

Tunisia and Egypt uh where the dictators

did fall um let alone in a number of

other countries in Tunisia for instance

there's a big argument going on uh now

that they've had their uh set of

democratic election elections to the um

constitutional assembly and they're

trying to write their constitution and

figure out how to set up a new democracy

and Tunisia under uh Ben Ali was

actually one of the most sophisticated

Arab countries when it came to censoring

and surveillance on the internet and

quite a number of the people who've been

democratically elected in Tunisia are

calling for a resumption of censorship

and surveillance for national security

reasons to maintain public morals and

public order and there's a huge debate

going on about what is the role um of

censorship and surveillance in a

democracy and how do you make sure that

power is not abused and they turn and

look at at at the United States they

look at Europe and censorship laws are

proliferating around the Democratic

world and there's not sufficient um

discussion and

consideration um for how these laws are

going to be abused and we've seen

actually um in Europe with a number of

efforts to uh censor both um uh

copyright infringement as well as child

pornography and so on that a lot of this

internet blocking that happens even in

democracies um often times uh exercises

Mission creeps so things that weren't

originally intended to be blocked end up

getting blocked when when the systems

are in place it's really difficult to

make sure that uh the the censorship

does not spread Beyond its original

intent it's very hard to control

um so this this is one of the the issues

it's not that the Internet isn't

empowering it's not that the internet

can't help the good guys it certainly

does but we're at a critical point I

think in history where the internet is

not some force of nature how it evolves

um and how it can be used and who it

empowers really depends on all of us

taking responsibility for making sure it

evolves in a Direction that's compatible

with democracy and that it doesn't

empower

um the most powerful incumbent

governments or the most powerful

corporations to decide what we can and

cannot see and do with our technology

Rebecca mckinon talk about the

phenomenon of control

2.0 right so control

2.0 uh is what I refer to in in terms of

how

authoritarian um governments are

evolving in the internet age and so one

example I use is is China and China in

in many ways is exhibit a for how an

authoritarian State survives the

internet and how do they do that they

have not cut off their population uh

from the internet in fact the internet's

expanding rapidly in China they now have

over 500 million internet users and the

Chinese government recognizes that being

connected to the global internet is

really important for its economy uh for

its education its culture for Innovation

yet at the same time uh they have worked

out a way to filter and censor um the

the content overseas that they feel

their citizens should not be accessing

and what's even more Insidious actually

is the way in which the state uses the

private sector to conduct most of its

censorship and surveillance so actually

what we know is the great firewall of

China that blocks t Twitter and Facebook

that's only one part of Chinese internet

censorship actually most Chinese

internet users are using Chinese

language websites that are run by

Chinese companies based in China and

those companies are all held

responsible for everything their users

are doing and so they have to hire

entire Departments of people to monitor

their users at the uh police's behest um

and also to not just block but delete

content that uh the Chinese government

believes infringes Chinese law um and of

course when in a country where crime is

defined very broadly to include

political and religious dissent that

involves a great deal of censorship and

it's being conducted to a great degree

not by government agents but by private

corporations who are complying with

these demands in order to make a profit

in China Rebecca talk about uh specifics

like Facebook Facebook uh changes in

Facebook features and privacy settings

uh exposing identities of protesters to

police in Egypt and Iran uh talk about

Google talk about Apple removing

politically uh controversial

apps right so so for instance with

Facebook um Facebook has its own kind of

type of governance which is why I call

Private Internet companies the the

sovereigns of cyberspace and so Facebook

has a rule where it requires that its

users need to use their real name their

real identity and while some people

violate that rule that makes them

vulnerable to having their account shut

down if they are discovered and so the

reason they do this is is that they want

people to be accountable for their

speech um and prevent bullying and so on

and that may make sense in the context

of of a western

democracy assuming that uh um you're

you're not vulnerable in your workplace

or anything like that which is even a

question but it it means that um you

have to as as an Egyptian activist or as

an activist in in Syria and so on um

you're more exposed because you have to

be on Facebook using your real name and

and actually um a a group of prominent

activists in Egypt who were using using

Facebook to to organize an anti-torture

movement um were doing so before the

regime fell under fake names and

actually at a critical point where they

were trying to uh organize a major

protest their Facebook group went down

because they were in violation of the

terms of service and uh they actually

had to find somebody in the US to take

over their their Facebook page so that

they could continue to operate um and

you also have a lot of cases of people

in Iran um there have been a number of

reports of being people being tortured

for their Facebook passwords and and so

on and the fact that um Iranian uh users

are are in in most cases using their

real names makes them um a great deal

more vulnerable and um as as you know um

the in here in the United States um

Facebook recently was subject to um uh

to to fine um and had to reach a

settlement with the the um Federal Trade

Commission because of the changes in in

its privacy settings that had been

sudden at the end of 2009 uh people had

made assumptions about um whether their

friends could be seen or not publicly

suddenly those settings changed and it

exposed a lot of people in ways that in

some cases were very dangerous um but

also let's take some other companies and

um some of the issues um that uh that

users face Apple um in its App Store uh

it has different versions of its App

Store in different parts of the world

and their Chinese app store sensors um

applications that um that the Chinese

government um believes to to be

controversial so for instance the Daly

Lama app um uh in the Apple Store is not

available in China uh but Apple

employees these are also making a lot of

other judgments about what content is

and isn't appropriate that goes um

according to standards that are much

more narrow than our first amendment

rights so for instance a um American

political cartoonist Mark Fior had an

app uh in which he was making fun of um

a range of politicians including

President Obama and uh Apple App Store

uh nannies um decided to censor that app

uh because they considered it to be too

controversial uh even though that speech

was clearly protected under the First

Amendment so you have companies making

these judgments that that go well beyond

sort of our judicial and and

constitutional process you also have

Amazon for instance dropping Wikileaks

even though it had not been accused let

alone convicted of any crime simply

because a number of American

politicians uh object Ed to WikiLeaks um

and and so there there's this issue of

our companies in the way in which they

operate their services considering the

free expression rights and privacy

rights of their users sufficiently to

ensure that we're able to have robust

dissent that people can speak truth to

power in a manner that may be making um

current government officials very very

comfortable but which is clearly

protected both under our Constitution

and the universal Declaration of Human

Rights Rea are should we be expecting

companies to push back a bit more I

wanted to ask you about the newly

released government documents that are

revealed the Department of Homeland

Security hired the military contractor

General Dynamics to monitor postings of

US citizens on dozens of websites uh the

sites monitored included Facebook and

Twitter as well as several news sites

including the New York Times w The

Huffington Post General Dynamics was

asked to collect reports that dealt with

government agencies including CIA FEMA

ice your

thoughts well this this is exactly the

kind of issue that we need to deal with

in a democracy now uh if they have been

hired to monitor postings that citizens

are putting on a public we website um I

think that's a reminder that uh our

public information uh is public and that

it's being mined and and uh and watched

by all kinds of people um but it's also

a an example of why privacy settings are

so important and why um why it's

important that people should be able to

be anonymous um if they want to be on

the internet uh if they fear

consequences or if they fear fear misuse

of the way in which they're can carrying

out political discussions that could be

used against them in different ways um

and there's also a a real issue I think

in the way in which our laws are

evolving uh when it comes to government

access to information stored on

corporate servers that is supposed to be

private that we are not intending to be

seen um in public which is that

according to to the Patriot Act and and

a range of other law that has been

passed in recent years it's much easier

for for government agencies to access

your email to access information about

your postings on on Twitter even if

they're Anonymous um then it is for for

government agents to come in your home

and and search your personal effects to

do that they need they need a warrant

there there is very clear restriction on

the government's ability to read your

mail yet according to current law if

your email is older than 180 days old

the government can access your your

email if it's stored on Gmail or or

Yahoo or Hotmail without any kind of

Warrant or court order so there's a real

erosion of the our our fourth amendment

rights really um to protection from

unreasonable search and seizure and this

is going on I think um to a great degree

without a lot of people realizing the

extent to which which our privacy rights

are being eroded Rebecca we have 30

seconds but the significance of

Wednesday of Tomorrow of uh uh Wikipedia

many other websites going dark uh in

protest of the legislation here in the

United States what do you think is uh

the most important issue people should

take away um from what's Happening and

also from your book consent of the

network well to I think the action

tomorrow really demonstrates that

internet censorship affects everybody

it's not just affecting people in China

that this is an an issue that we all

need to be concerned about and it can

happen in democracies as well as in

dictatorships and the core message of my

book is that if we want democracy to

survive in the internet age we really

need to work uh to make sure that the

internet evolves in a manner that is

compatible with democracy and that means

exercising our power not only as

consumers and internet users and

investors but also as voters

to make sure that our digital lives

contain the same kind of protections of

our rights that we expect in physical

space Rebecca McKinnon I want to thank

you very much for being with us senior

fellow at the new America Foundation

co-founder of global voices online her

new book is called consent of the

network the worldwide struggle for

internet Freedom this is democracynow

democracynow.org the Warr