Tensions between Israel and Hezbollah 'could escalate further' | 7.30
Summary
TLDRIn this interview, Dr. Abdal Abh Habib discusses the ongoing conflict between Hezbollah and Israel, emphasizing that while there is already a war in South Lebanon and Northern Israel, peace talks are ongoing with the hope for a ceasefire. He highlights Lebanon's desire for peace, the negative impacts of the conflict on the economy and daily life, and the importance of a two-state solution for the Palestinian crisis. Dr. Habib also addresses concerns about the potential spread of Hezbollah's ideology to Australia, asserting that it is not a legitimate fear given the different circumstances in Australia.
Takeaways
- 🔍 There is an ongoing war between Hezbollah and Israel, particularly in South Lebanon and Northern Israel.
- 🔄 The assassination of Hezbollah Commander Fad shukar by Israel is seen as an escalation of this conflict.
- 🕊️ There is a current effort to give peace talks a chance to succeed, with a general desire for peace among involved parties.
- 🤝 Lebanon has indirect communication with Hezbollah through various levels of government, including the parliament.
- 🏠 The resistance movement exists due to the occupation of Lebanese land by Israel, and it would cease if the land is returned.
- 🚫 Lebanese people do not want war and desire Israel to withdraw to internationally recognized borders.
- 🛡️ Lebanon seeks a secure border and peace with Israel, without the constant threat of conflict.
- 🚨 The rocket firing by Hezbollah towards Israel is seen as detrimental to Lebanon's economy and livelihood.
- 🌍 Lebanon has a deep understanding of the refugee crisis, hosting millions of Syrians and approximately 170,000 Palestinians.
- 🇦🇺 Developed countries like Australia are being urged to take more refugees from the war in Gaza, but Palestinians primarily wish to stay in Gaza.
- 🏛️ The solution to the Palestinian issue is seen as the establishment of a Palestinian State, aligning with the two-state solution proposed by the United Nations in 1948.
- 🚫 Dr. Abdullah buh Habib disagrees with making it illegal for Australians to travel to Hezbollah-controlled areas in Lebanon, considering it a risky but not necessarily prohibited action.
- 🛂 The fear of Hezbollah's ideology being imported to Australia is not seen as legitimate, as the context of resistance in Lebanon does not apply to Australia.
Q & A
What is the current situation between Hezbollah and Israel according to Dr. Abdal Abh Habib?
-Dr. Abdal Abh Habib states that there is already a war going on between Hezbollah and Israel, particularly in South Lebanon and Northern Israel.
How does Dr. Abdal Abh Habib view the assassination of Hezbollah Commander Fad shukar by Israel?
-He believes that the assassination escalated the war and could potentially lead to further escalations in the future.
What is the current stance of Lebanon on the peace process?
-Lebanon is giving a chance for peace talks to succeed, as everyone wants peace, but acknowledges that new conditions from Israel often arise, hindering progress.
What is Dr. Abdal Abh Habib's opinion on the influence of Lebanese government on Hezbollah's actions?
-He mentions that there are indirect representatives of Hezbollah in the government, and they are part of Lebanese society, indicating that there is communication and consultation with them at all levels of the government.
What is the primary reason for the resistance movement in Lebanon, according to Dr. Abdal Abh Habib?
-The resistance movement exists because Israel occupies part of Lebanon's land. If Israel returns the land, the reason for resistance would vanish.
What do ordinary people of Lebanon want regarding the conflict with Israel?
-Ordinary people in Lebanon do not want war and wish for Israel to withdraw to its internationally recognized borders, thereby securing peace on the borders.
How does Dr. Abdal Abh Habib view the impact of Hezbollah's rocket firing on Lebanon itself?
-He would like Hezbollah to stop the rocket firing as it is hurting Lebanon's economy and life, particularly damaging the livelihood of some sectors of the economy.
What is Lebanon's understanding of the refugee crisis in the Middle East, particularly with Syrians and Palestinians?
-Lebanon has an acute understanding of the refugee crisis, hosting millions of Syrians and approximately 170,000 Palestinians, and is aware of the challenges this brings.
What is Dr. Abdal Abh Habib's view on developed countries taking more refugees from the war in Gaza?
-The transcript does not provide Dr. Abdal Abh Habib's direct opinion on this matter, but it implies the complexity of the issue and the desire for a Palestinian state as a solution.
What is Dr. Abdal Abh Habib's stance on making it illegal for Australians to travel to Hezbollah-controlled areas in Lebanon?
-He disagrees with making it illegal, stating that it is risky and dangerous, but it should be a matter of personal choice, not law.
Does Dr. Abdal Abh Habib believe that Hezbollah's ideology could be imported back to Australia?
-He does not believe so, stating that Hezbollah is a resistance movement due to the occupied land, and Australia does not have these problems, implying that the ideology would not be relevant or transplantable.
Outlines
🕊️ Hezbollah and Israel Conflict
Dr. Abdal Abh Habib discusses the current state of conflict between Hezbollah and Israel following the assassination of Hezbollah Commander Fad shukar in Beirut. He acknowledges the ongoing war and expresses hope for peace talks to succeed. Despite the wish for peace, he mentions that new conditions from Israel often disrupt the peace process. He also addresses the influence of the Lebanese government on Hezbollah, explaining that Hezbollah is part of Lebanese society and parliament, and that the resistance would vanish if Israel returned the occupied land. The ordinary people of Lebanon are described as wanting peace and secure borders, and Dr. Habib highlights the negative impact of the conflict on Lebanon's economy and livelihood.
🏛️ Lebanese Perspective on Refugees and International Involvement
In the second paragraph, Dr. Abdal Abh Habib speaks about Lebanon's acute understanding of the refugee crisis, with millions of Syrians and approximately 170,000 Palestinians living in the country. He discusses the reluctance of Palestinians to leave Gaza and the importance of establishing a Palestinian state as a solution to the ongoing conflict. Dr. Habib also addresses the Australian parliamentary committee's proposal to make it illegal for Australians to travel to Hezbollah-controlled areas in Lebanon, expressing disagreement with the idea of making it illegal but acknowledging the risks involved in such travel.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Assassination
💡Hezbollah
💡Fad shukar
💡South Lebanon
💡Northern Israel
💡Peace Talks
💡Ceasefire
💡Resistance
💡Internationally Recognized Borders
💡Refugee Crisis
💡Two-State Solution
💡Parliamentary Committee
Highlights
Dr. Abdal Abh Habib believes there is already a war between Hezbollah and Israel in South Lebanon and Northern Israel.
The assassination of Hezbollah Commander Fadl Shukair by Israel escalated the conflict and could lead to further escalations.
There is hope for peace talks to succeed, as everyone desires peace, but Israel often introduces new conditions that hinder progress.
Lebanon does not want war and wishes for a peaceful resolution, including a ceasefire in Gaza.
Dr. Habib discusses the possibility of influencing Hezbollah's actions through government and parliamentary channels.
The resistance movement exists due to Israel's occupation of Lebanese land, and if the land is returned, the reason for resistance would vanish.
Ordinary people in Lebanon want Israel to withdraw to internationally recognized borders to avoid war.
Lebanese citizens desire a secure border and peace with Israel, but also wish for Hezbollah to stop rocket firings that harm the economy and livelihood.
Lebanon has a deep understanding of the refugee crisis, hosting millions of Syrians and approximately 170,000 Palestinians.
Dr. Habib suggests that developed countries like Australia should take more refugees from the war in Gaza.
Most Palestinians want to stay in Gaza, and mass immigration would imply Israeli occupation, which is not acceptable.
The solution to the Gaza and West Bank issues is a Palestinian state, as proposed by the United Nations in 1948.
Dr. Habib disagrees with making it illegal for Australians to travel to Hezbollah-controlled areas in Lebanon due to war risks.
Australians have the right to travel, but the fear is that Hezbollah's ideology could be imported back to Australia.
Dr. Habib dismisses the fear, stating that Australia does not have the same problems as Lebanon and Hezbollah is a resistance movement specific to the situation.
The interview concludes with thanks to Dr. Abdullah buh Habib for joining and wishing him good luck.
Transcripts
Dr abdal abh Habib welcome to
7:30 thank you thank you for having me
now will Israel's assassination of
Hezbollah Commander Fad shukar in Beirut
inevitably lead to war between Hezbollah
and Israel well in fact there is a war
now between Hezbollah and Israel and
South Lebanon and Northern Israel we
wish it is not there but it is and uh I
think what the Israelis did uh by
killing for they escalated the war and
it could escalate further in the future
I think at the present time everybody is
giving a chance for the peace talks to
succeed because everybody wants peace
and but every time we reach a certain
level of Peace then there are new
conditions coming from Israel so we hope
that there will be no war we in Lebanon
we don't want war we don't like Wars uh
and we we hope that the peace process
that's taking place for ceasefire in
Gaza would succeed now you are powerless
to influence hezbollah's actions inside
Lebanon do you even know what they think
about the possibility of a wider War a
bigger scale war with
Israel well we always have talks with
hasbalah they are uh in the
parliament they have also
representatives
indirect representatives in the
government so we talk to them all the
time at all levels of the government and
we consult with them they are part of
the libery society because Israel
occupies part of our land around 400
square kilers or so uh we have resisted
if Israel gives back our land I mean
this the reason for having resistance
would vanish what do the Ordinary People
of Lebanon want they don't want war and
they want Israel to withdraw to its
internationally recognized borders and
give up what occupies from Lebanon so
that we don't have war in our between us
and Israel at all we want a secure
border we want peace on the borders for
between us and Israel I mean but do they
also want Hezbollah to stop its constant
firing of rockets towards Israel I would
like them to stop all of them because
they are they're hurting our economy
they're hurting our life they already we
depend on a good summer uh for
livelihood some some sectors of the
economy and this summer has been
destroyed by by the war in the south so
Lebanon has an acute understanding of
the refugee crisis in the Middle East
with millions of syrians living in
Lebanon and I think approximately
170,000 Palestinians should developed
countries like Australia take more
refugees from the war in
Gaza well I I don't think Palestinians
want to leave the country some of them
would but most of them want to stay in
Gaza they are from Gaza the strip and
they won't stay there you know any any
Mass immigration from Gaza it means that
Israel is going to occupy Gaza and this
is impossible to do it the only solution
for the problem of Gaza for the problem
of the West Bank is to have a
Palestinian State as you know in 1948
the United Nations called for two states
in the geographic pastine one state was
established the other is still fighting
to establish and the bitterness now is
more than it was in
1948 so the best way to do it is to have
a two-state solution like what the world
wanted now a parliamentary Committee in
Australia has asked the foreign minister
to make it illegal for Australians to
travel to the Hezbollah controlled south
of Lebanon would you oppose that step
making it illegal no illegal or no
illegal I don't think anybody would go
there if there is a war it's very
dangerous although there there are
United Nations Forces there and we have
around 4,000 lianes troops down there
sometimes we get hit by Israeli forces
sometimes by mistakes sometimes
intentional but uh but it is risky and
dangerous to go sou down south but it
doesn't have to be illegal
whatever Australians want to do this is
their right to do it but I disagree with
that I think the fear is that um that uh
the philosophy the ideology of Hezbollah
could be imported back into Australia do
you think that's a legitimate fear no
theah is a resistance movement because
we have occupied land and Australia does
not have these problems and I don't
think there would be any anybody who
would uh carry out such kind of ideology
to to Australia from here Dr Abdullah
buh Habib thank you very much indeed for
joining us thank you for having me and
good luck to you
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