Criminólogo entrevistó a un descuartizador y explica una macabra anécdota a Jordi Wild
Summary
TLDRThe video script discusses the disturbing yet intriguing topic of dismembering a body post-mortem. It explores the psychological aspects of such an act, suggesting that it is not a sign of excessive coldness but rather a reaction to fear and panic, particularly when the perpetrator is dealing with a large stash of drugs and the potential consequences of being caught. The speaker recounts a case where a man dismembered his victim's body over two months due to a lack of strength and will to dispose of it quickly. This act was driven by the need to eliminate evidence and protect oneself from severe punishment. The video also touches on the reasons people might dismember a body, which include necessity for survival, protection of another person, or criminal motivations. It emphasizes the moral violence associated with dismembering a body and the powerful motivations behind such an unnatural and violent act.
Takeaways
- 🔍 The act of dismembering a body does not necessarily indicate excessive coldness but could be driven by fear and panic, as illustrated by the case discussed in the script.
- 🚫 Fear of being caught with a large drug stash can lead to extreme actions such as dismembering a body to avoid police scrutiny, as mentioned by the subject in the interview.
- 🕰️ The process of dismembering a body can be prolonged, as the individual in the case study kept the body in his room for two months, dismembering it piece by piece over time.
- 🤔 The decision to stop dismembering was not due to the task being too complicated, but rather an emotional limit being reached, particularly after dismembering the head.
- 🗑️ The method of disposal involved putting body parts in garbage bags and throwing them away to avoid detection, highlighting a concern for not being caught.
- 🧐 The investigator questioned why the dismemberment process was not completed more quickly, which led to further insight into the psychological aspects of the crime.
- 🧑 The first part of the body to be dismembered is typically the head, as it represents the person's individuality and humanity, which the perpetrator may wish to avoid confronting.
- 🚫 Dismembering a body is considered a moral taboo, and doing so without having killed the person is extremely rare and generally only occurs for specific reasons such as survival, protection, or concealment of a murder.
- 🔎 The investigator's research confirmed suspicions that dismembering a body is usually a criminal act, driven by strong motivations such as avoiding a life sentence in prison.
- 🏥 The idea of spending a long time in prison is a deterrent for some, leading them to extreme measures like dismembering a body to avoid being caught and convicted.
- 🤨 The script challenges the notion that anyone would dismember a body, suggesting that it requires a specific mindset and motivation, rather than being a common reaction.
Q & A
What does the speaker suggest about the act of dismembering a body?
-The speaker suggests that dismembering a body is an act that indicates a strong motivation behind it, often related to criminal elements or self-preservation.
Why does the speaker think that the head is usually the first part to be dismembered?
-The head is usually the first part to be dismembered because it contains the face, which represents the person's individuality and humanity. Removing the head eliminates the accusing eyes and the human aspect of the victim.
What was the man's motive for dismembering the woman's body according to the speaker?
-The man's motive was to dispose of the body because he was afraid of being implicated in her death and wanted to avoid a lengthy prison sentence.
What did the speaker find out about the possibility of dismembering a body without killing the person?
-The speaker discovered that dismembering a body without killing the person is possible but is usually done for specific reasons such as necessity for food, protection of another person, or in the case of having killed the person.
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Why did the man stop dismembering the woman's body?
-The man stopped dismembering the woman's body because he could not bear to continue after he had cut off her head, which was too emotionally overwhelming for him.
What does the speaker imply about the psychological state of someone who dismembers a body?
-The speaker implies that someone who dismembers a body must have a very strong psychological drive or be in a state of extreme distress and fear, as it is a highly unnatural and violent act.
What is the speaker's opinion on the commonality of dismembering a body in criminal cases?
-The speaker believes that dismembering a body is not a common act even among criminals, as it breaks a significant moral taboo and requires a powerful motivation.
What was the man's initial reaction after the woman's accidental death?
-The man was very scared because he had a large stash of drugs and did not want to call the police or medical services for fear they would find and investigate the drugs.
How did the man dispose of the body parts after dismembering them?
-The man would cut off a piece of the body and then wait for the garbage truck to come, put the piece in a bag, and throw it away to avoid it being in the container for too long.
What was the man's reason for keeping the body in his bedroom for two months?
-The man kept the body in his bedroom because he did not have the strength or will to dispose of it quickly and effectively, and he was trying to figure out how to get rid of it without being caught.
What did the speaker conclude about the man's actions after interviewing him?
-The speaker concluded that the man's actions were driven by a need for self-preservation and a fear of being implicated in the woman's death, rather than a lack of empathy or coldness.
Outlines
😨 Disposing of a Body: A Criminal's Dilemma
This paragraph discusses the case of a man who dismembered a woman's body after she died accidentally in his home. He was afraid to call the police due to a large stash of drugs and decided to dispose of the body by cutting it into pieces over two months. The man could not bring himself to dismember the head, as it represents the victim's humanity. The speaker also explores the reasons people might dismember a body, including for survival, to protect someone, or because they committed the murder. The information provided was crucial in the investigation.
😱 The Psychological Aspects of Dismemberment
This paragraph delves into the psychological reasons behind dismembering a body. The speaker argues that it takes a strong motivation to commit such a violent, unnatural act. Dismembering a body is a huge moral taboo, and if someone is capable of doing it, they must have a powerful reason. The speaker also discusses the concept of self-preservation, as disposing of a body is a common reaction when trying to avoid being caught and facing severe punishment. The paragraph concludes by questioning whether someone would dismember a body if they had not committed the murder.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Dismemberment
💡Fear
💡Moral Violence
💡Autopreservation
💡Taboo
💡Humanity
💡Drug Stash
💡Criminal Motivation
💡Survival
💡Guilt
💡Self-Defense
Highlights
The fact that someone dismembers a body after killing it does not necessarily indicate excessive coldness.
Many people might be capable of such an act out of fear and anxiety.
The interviewee maintained that the woman's death was accidental and he panicked due to having a large drug stash.
He did not want to call the police or medical services for fear they would find his drugs.
Facing the absurd situation, he decided he had to get rid of the body but lacked the strength and will to do it quickly and effectively.
He kept the body in his bedroom for two months, dismembering it bit by bit each day.
The dismemberment process was too much for him to bear, so he stopped after cutting off the head.
The head is usually the first part dismembered as it represents the person's humanity and individuality.
Dismembering a body is a huge moral taboo, so if someone does it, there must be a very powerful motivation behind it.
If a person was really killed accidentally, you would not dismember the body due to the immense moral violence involved.
Dismembering a body is usually done for three reasons - out of necessity for food, to protect someone else, or because you committed the murder.
If you are caught with a body you did not kill, you might dismember it out of love to protect the real perpetrator.
If you killed someone and want to avoid a life sentence in prison, dismembering the body out of self-preservation is a logical choice.
Once you have killed someone and broken a major taboo, dismembering the body becomes a less daunting task.
The interviewee's account provided crucial information that confirmed the interviewer's suspicions.
The interviewer also researched whether it's possible to dismember a body without killing the person first.
The movie 'Andes' is mentioned as an example of dismembering a body out of survival necessity.
The interviewee's account reveals the complex psychological motivations behind such a violent act.
Transcripts
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y el hecho de trocear alguien que acabas
de matar No indica una frialdad
excesiva o o nos sorprendería lo que
seríamos capaz miedo el miedo a la
aprensión
mira eh Porque para muchos es un acto
asqueroso mir caso mira en un caso en el
que en el que trabajé en el que también
el hombre troceo
a a su víctima
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Eh bueno eh trabajé para la acusación le
entrevisté a él él de manera fantástica
habló conmigo con lo cual se lo
agradezco mucho porque me dio muchísima
información
y él mantenía la tesis de que la mujer
había muerto por accidente y que él se
asustó mucho porque tenía un alijo
grande de droga y no quiso Llamar a la
policía o a los servicios sanitarios
porque pensó que podrían investigar y
buscar y encontrarle la droga Entonces
él dijo yo enfrentado esa situación Por
muy absurdo que parece lo que la
conclusión a la que llegué Es que tenía
que deshacerme del cadáver pero yo no
tenía fuerz ni voluntad para hacerlo de
manera rápida y eficaz entonces lo que
hizo fue meter el cuerpo de la pobre
chica en su dormitorio y tenerlo ahí
durante dos meses y cada mes o sea
durante dos meses o un mes y en fin no
me acuerdo mucho tiempo y cada día
cortaba un trozo verdad y yo le digo y
le digo pero tío Esto no es muy
complicado ya que te pones Claro Por qué
no acabas pronto y dice Esto para mí era
demasiado era demasiado Entonces yo le
pregunto Y por qué paras porque esto lo
que hacía es que cortaba un poco se
esperaba que viniera el camión de la
basura ponía una bols y lo tiraba para
que no estuviera mucho tiempo en el
contenedor no y digo por Qué paraste
Entonces me dice mira dice es que cuando
ya le corté la cabeza aquello ya no pude
más no pude más y ya no pude seguir
cortando y es verdad que luego el cadá
el resto lo que quedaba era un tronco en
fin un poco las extremidades verdad unos
muñones y un poco de los muslos no y
bueno al final la policía preguntando le
encontró a él y él le dijo Oiga usted ha
visto esta persona y dijo sí Dónde está
dijo en mi casa di en su casa dice Sí
dice Bueno lo que queda de ella no pero
bueno lo importante es que yo le
pregunté Oye y por qué dejaste de de
cuartear a la mujer y me dijo No porque
yo no pude resistirlo Pero claro esa
información fue muy
importante porque yo investigué Sobre el
asunto y algo que ya sospechaba Se
confirmó Y es que cuando tú troce El
cadáver durante un tiempo
e y en general incluso aunque sea poco
tiempo lo primero que cortas es la
cabeza por qué Porque la cabeza la cara
es donde está la humanidad la
individualidad de la persona entonces tú
lo que quieres es no tener los ojos
acusadores verdad Y tú imagínate de
abrir las puertas de tu dormitorio
porque vas a cortar y de ver y ver ahí a
la pobre chica mirándote
Perdona Mira otro lado está educada No
claro Entonces lo primero que haces es
quitar la cabeza Ajá Vale entonces ahí
me mintió luego también hice una
investigación
eh sobre la sobre la siguiente
pregunta es posible descuartizar a un
cadáver sin haberlo
matado vale Y lo que encontré en la
investigación es
que la gente solo descuartiza El cadáver
por tres razones una por necesidad
alimenticia los Andes viven llegaste a
ver la película Bueno ahora hay una
nueva no ve a Carlitos Páez a uno
de supervivientes figura en mi lista en
mi Play mi Playlist es verdad y también
quiero ver la película porque me han
dicho que está muy bien pero bueno yo he
visto la antigua
película Bueno entonces por alimentación
para que nos entendamos en segundo lugar
para proteger a otra persona Tú puedes
trar un cadáver sin haberla matado tú
sospechas que una persona a la que
quieres puede haberlo hecho y tú por
amor puedes hacerlo y En tercer lugar
porque la has matado salvo el primer
elemento el segundo y el tercero
incluyen elementos criminales dicho de
otra manera si esa mujer de verdad
hubiera muerto por accidente tú no la
troce porque la la la violencia moral es
tan enorme es un tabú trocear un cuerpo
es un tabú la violencia moral es tan
enorme comprendes que si tú eres capaz
de entre comillas armarte de valor para
hacer eso es porque hay una motivación
poderosísima que está detrás de un acto
tan antinatural y violento Y es que no
quieres pasar el resto de tu vida en la
cárcel a ti no te cuadró que no la
hubiera matado entonces claro es decir
yo encontré y alguna vez he visto ese
titular que claro que muchas veces los
titulares te asustan un poco no yente
Garrido fue
lógico que desparti ara eso se acabado
de contesto diciendo normal todo el
mundo lo haría vamos a ver cómo no
descorrió antes el c ver no ent yo lo
que quiero decir es que si tú has matado
a una persona y se sabe que tú tienes un
vínculo con esa persona y no quieres que
te descubran lo normal es que te que te
deshagas del cadáver porque si no
encuentran el cadáver Aunque la policía
piense que tú lo has podido matar tú
estás en una situación mucho mejor de
Cara a una posible acusación Entonces se
hace por lo que se llama por razones de
la autopreservación Entonces yo lo que
te tú me preguntas tienes que ser muy
psicopata para descuartizar no solo te
tiene que importar no estar 25 años en
las cárceles infernales de
Tailandia si tú estimas tu trasero y la
idea de no vivir 25 años de infierno tú
descuartizas a este hombre Claro que lo
descuartizas Porque además has tenido el
deseo de matarlo cómo no lo vas a
descuartizar ya ya has roto una bar un
tabú claro y ahora te estás jugando
estar en el infierno comprendes Entonces
en ese sentido es Es lógico pero claro
en este contexto en este contexto verdad
si Lu queda como Bueno y cómo no Tris a
la gente si es lo
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