Jackie Hill Perry: How Discipleship Helps You Pursue Holiness | FULL EPISODE | Women of Faith on TBN
Summary
TLDRIn this conversation, three women of faith discuss the importance of discipleship in pursuing holiness. They emphasize the need for mentorship from spiritually mature believers who can provide accountability, wisdom and a model for integrating the truth of scripture into everyday life. Though seasons and capacity for discipleship change, they urge commitment to some form of investing in others' spiritual growth. They encourage older women to share their stories of God's faithfulness rather than feeling the need to be perfect role models.
Takeaways
- 😊 Discipleship involves living out the Gospel in your own life and investing that into others
- 👥 We need community and people speaking into our lives to grow spiritually
- 💪 Discipling others keeps you accountable and helps you grow too
- 😤 Discipleship is not optional - it's an imperative from God
- 🤝 Adjust your discipleship approach for different seasons of life
- 😌 Older women shouldn't feel they must be perfect to disciple younger women
- 👀 Observing other believers helps you learn how to live out your faith
- 📝 Every woman has a story of God's faithfulness to share
- 🚶♀️ "As you go", make disciples by letting others see how you follow Jesus daily
- 🙏 Pray for courage and wisdom to disciple and be discipled well
Q & A
What is the role of discipleship in the pursuit of holiness?
-Discipleship helps believers become mature in their faith and apply God's word to their lives. It promotes accountability, spiritual growth, and living out one's beliefs. Discipleship is key for pursuing holiness.
Why was the speaker put into positions of leadership before she was ready?
-The speaker was put into leadership positions because she was gifted in communication and teaching, even though her character and spiritual maturity were not developed enough at that point.
What warning did the speaker receive about being gifted but immature?
-The woman discipling the speaker warned her that she was on track to become a popular hypocrite - able to eloquently communicate truth while not living it out personally.
What are some practical ways to make time for discipleship?
-Schedule regular meetings, have someone live with you for accountability, go for prayer walks, pay for discipleship counseling if needed. Discipleship can look different in various seasons of life.
Why is being involved in a faith community so important?
-Corporate worship, community involvement, Bible study and relationships are vital. Watching church online is not enough for spiritual growth and accountability.
How can older women be encouraged to disciple younger women?
-By focusing on testifying about God's goodness rather than perfection, valuing their life stories, and recognizing they have wisdom to impart from their walk with Christ.
What advice is given for finding discipling relationships?
-Seek both older mentors (Pauls) and younger mentees (Timothys). Find people who know Christ, not just those with compatible personalities or preferences.
What is the goal of discipleship?
-The goal is to become more like Jesus Christ in how we live, think, speak and relate to others. Discipleship moves us toward maturity.
How can discipleship happen organically?
-As you go through daily life and activities, invite others to observe and join you. Use your natural gifts and interests to model godliness.
Why must we have courage to be discipled?
-Being discipled requires humility to admit weaknesses, receive correction and change. It can be difficult and uncomfortable exposing areas needing growth.
Outlines
🌱 The Imperative of Discipleship
This segment explores the fundamental importance of discipleship within the Christian faith, highlighting personal experiences of growth and maturity through mentorship. The speaker recounts their own journey of coming to faith and the critical role that an older mentor played in aligning their abilities with true spiritual maturity. It underscores the pitfalls of premature leadership positions without character development, and the transformative power of accountability and personal investment in one's spiritual journey. The narrative emphasizes discipleship as not just learning but living out biblical truths, with a focus on the alignment of one's life with God's word through practical, everyday actions and relationships.
📚 Discipleship: A Life-long Journey
This paragraph delves into the diverse ways discipleship manifests in an individual's life, reflecting on how it changes with life's seasons. It discusses the adaptability of discipleship methods—ranging from living in a mentor's home to integrating discipleship into family and professional life. The importance of community, both in person and virtually, is highlighted as essential for spiritual growth. The conversation touches on the challenges and adjustments required to continue discipling amidst personal responsibilities and the evolving digital landscape. It brings to light the necessity of authentic, depth-filled relationships over superficial engagements for true spiritual development.
🔍 Reflective Discipleship and Community Impact
Focusing on the transformative impact of discipleship, this section reflects on the importance of having a mentor (a 'Paul') and being a mentor to others (a 'Timothy'), using biblical analogies to describe the discipleship process. It emphasizes the need for older, wiser mentors to guide younger individuals towards spiritual maturity, and the reciprocal nature of growth and learning in these relationships. The narrative challenges older individuals to embrace their role in discipleship, regardless of perceived inadequacies, highlighting the value of lived experiences and the authentic sharing of one's journey with God. The discussion underscores discipleship as an essential, non-optional aspect of Christian life, aimed at fostering a deeper, more holistic pursuit of holiness and community engagement.
🤲 Embracing the Messiness of Discipleship
This segment addresses the realities of discipleship, acknowledging the challenges and imperfections inherent in the journey. It discusses the importance of transparency about one's failures and the redemptive power of God in those moments, as a means to connect and guide others. The narrative encourages older women to engage in discipleship by sharing their stories of God's faithfulness, emphasizing that perfection is not a prerequisite. The conversation shifts towards the collective responsibility of Christians to disciple others, illustrating the importance of valuing one's personal story as a testament to God's work. It concludes by highlighting the diverse approaches to discipleship, including the significance of integrating spiritual lessons into practical, daily interactions and the impact of such lived examples on others.
🌟 The Vital Role of Storytelling in Discipleship
This paragraph expands on the concept of discipleship as sharing one's life story to illustrate God's presence and work. It argues for the power of personal testimony in discipleship, emphasizing that every Christian, regardless of their stage in life, has a valuable story to share. The discussion points out the need for Christians to see themselves as 'expert witnesses' of Jesus Christ in their lives, able to testify to His impact with authority. The segment encourages believers to recognize the divine orchestration in their life's events and to use their unique experiences as a means to disciple others. It calls for a proactive approach to finding and nurturing discipleship relationships, whether within one's family or the broader community, stressing the importance of authenticity and personal connection in fostering spiritual growth.
🙏 A Prayer for Discipleship and Unity
The final segment is a heartfelt prayer for the Christian community, emphasizing the importance of discipleship and the pursuit of holiness. It seeks God's guidance for believers to find the courage and wisdom to both disciple and be discipled. The prayer acknowledges the diversity within the body of Christ and the unique roles individuals play in fostering spiritual growth and unity. It concludes with a call for the church to embrace its collective identity, working together towards maturity and reflecting Jesus' love and unity to the world. This segment encapsulates the overarching theme of the discussion: discipleship as a critical, communal journey towards spiritual maturity and holiness, grounded in prayer and mutual support.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡discipleship
💡holiness
💡hypocrisy
💡maturity
💡accountability
💡transparency
💡mentorship
💡community
💡testimony
💡witness
Highlights
Discipleship involves taking the gospel and living it out, then investing that into others' lives
Discipleship matches our message with our lives through accountability and application
My ministry is the fruit of discipleship
Discipleship is not optional, it's a commission not a suggestion
Discipleship is about shaping people into Christ's image, not our own preferences
We need both older, wiser mentors and younger people to disciple
Discipleship can't just be a coffee chat, it should involve doing actual life together
Community and gathering physically with saints is vital, virtual church has limits
We must have people in our lives we can ask for help to carry our burdens to Jesus
Others inviting us into their lives models maturity and helps disciple through observation
Value your story and view it as necessary to share for discipleship
All women are older than someone and have wisdom to offer from their journey
Discipleship happens through the everyday moments of living out faith
Ask God to equip you for discipleship by showing you who and how to invest in
Pray for courage to disciple and be discipled in wisdom
Transcripts
I think that's the beauty of
discipleship and that's what we need is
that we need the church to be the church
to equip us for the work of ministry to
to help us become mature and it's
scary and it exposes your weaknesses cuz
it can be terrifying to tell somebody I
need help being holy right but that's
even a part of being
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holy in talking about Holiness I think
it would be uh really helpful and
encouraging to also talk about the place
that discipleship has in our pursuit of
Holiness um for me I came to faith when
I was 19 and I went to a church that was
really um happy about gifts and so they
they put me in POS yeah they put me in
positions of leadership before my
character was even ready for that and
it's because oh you can communicate well
you could teach so let me get you a mic
in the Bible and it's like but I still
haven't even learned to read it right or
even believe it and live it out until I
got connected uh with the woman who end
up disciple discipling me for a season
and I remember she told me she said
Jackie you're on your way to being a
very popular hypocrite and she said it's
because you're gifted where you can
communicate truth in such a way where
people yeah she said you can communicate
truth in such a way where people will
believe that you know what you're
talking about she was like but it's my
task in your life to make sure that your
message and your life match and so I
lived with her for 2 years where that
was a daytoday thing where we would get
in the text and whatever I read she
would make sure I applied it you
remember we read James 3 about the
tongue did you did you apply like would
you think about
Jesus were you thinking about Jesus when
you said what you said and so it wasn't
just teaching but also accountability
right and I I I've told people
consistent L my Ministry is the fruit of
discipleship right and so I guess big
picture what is discipleship and why do
we need it to be
holy I love discipleship it's near and
dear to my heart and um uh God has been
faithful in showing me how to make room
for for that in my life because it's not
optional you know it's a commission not
a suggestion it's like you must do it so
to me it is very much um taking what I
what I the news of the Gospel this good
news and living it out in my life and
then investing that in the life of
another and saying here's what the
gospel has looked like in my life I
don't approach discipleship feeling like
I need to cover the entire Bible the
Lord brings people in my path that
generally line up with my giftings my
passion my calling and and I usually
share with them things that have shaped
my life I tend I Love Inside Out L crab
jacked my whole life I love knowledge of
the Holy I love Pursuit Of God I love so
I just say these are things that were
pivotal for me and and when you leave me
you may need you may have another discip
but but this is my this is what God's
asked me to invest in you and I think um
that has been so good for me because
even in my investing right I'm growing
and so he keeps showing me that this is
the only way to live and and you can
have really gifted people like Jackie
said or people who are in great churches
or have made some great decisions for
God and there's no water in this soil
with this seed and so it's just right so
it's it can just sit there it can be it
can stagnate you know um and I think
it's dangerous to to to focus on the
moment of surrender that the salvation
commitment and then just leave it to be
whatever I think we also need to talk
about kind of the um and
discipleship you know I've grew up in so
many different discipleship Ministries
and they all had a different template
and some had a different agenda and it
wasn't until I think I was in my 30s
that I thought that wasn't discipleship
that was actually manipulation and me
being forced into a mold because
homogeny and replication was was the
goal and now I go I want somebody who's
who their their biggest theme in my life
and I always have a I think scripture
this is real simplistic is the way I
think
is I always want a Paul so I want a
Pauline somebody older and wiser more
mature in the Lord to walk with and then
I was want a a timat I always want a
Timothy real simplistic but I want a
couple of Tates and then a couple of of
Paulin um for for me to learn for me to
model after but ultimately I've got to
be under Pauls who are wise enough to go
don't model after me you you model after
Jesus the whole point here is for you to
look more like Jesus so you may sit on
your hands during musical worship or
raise your hands you may it's not about
that it's not about um um sometimes we
make it about our preferences instead of
about actually sanctification and so I
think find people who will disciple you
do life with you I think it's amazing
you lived in her home we have made
discipleship run into a coffee shop and
you know talking about stuff sometimes
it doesn't really matter and I think you
do life you do fun you but you make sure
you have some depth in that with
somebody who will say you're on your way
to becoming a very popular hypocrite and
and and I think to that point I think
that speaks to she had the margin for
that that's right so she was a single
woman she was the director of the
women's ministry of the church and so
she had margin to disciple uh on a deep
level I don't you know I have three
children a husband and a dog right and
so I've actually had to alleviate myself
of the pressure of replicating that same
kind of disciple ship when somebody was
like Jackie deciple your kids right and
so I think there there that's even a
thing where it's like I'm over here
discipling people via Instagram and I
ain't read the Bible with my daughter in
two weeks and so I have to remind myself
like no like you are her greatest
discipler as her parent and so you keep
the main thing the main thing but
whatever it looks like and they all
different during different season I mean
quite frankly I pay for my discipleship
right now because the the wisest older
sister in my life is a Christian
counselor and and the answers are in
God's word but where I've been wounded
or abused um it's like my mind gets
smaller and my heart gets fearful and I
can't always apply the Redemptive nature
of God's word to those places so with an
older older godly woman who is really an
older sister in the faith and goes do
you think that's actually her her whole
sole purpose is for me to continue
growing in christlikeness and so it will
look different for all of us but I think
you really have to have you have to be
in community I think it's and I'm going
to say this just because I'm old it is
not enough to watch Church on your iPad
now there are some people who because of
comorbidities or whatever during covid
that that you do have to do that but I
travel for work I'm kind of a traveling
evangelist and do you know I don't think
I've been to a CH Church in the last 6
months where church was open that they
said we're back to our same numbers I
was with a pastor two days ago and he
said our giving is great we're so
grateful people are giving but he said
we're running about half of what we were
running before covid and he said the
people are engaged they just now have
gotten really comfortable being engaged
from the couch and I was like that's not
okay if if you're in an area where Co
isn't obviously there's some
qualifications that in light of in light
of Global pandemic but if you're in a
place where you can gather with the
Saints physically it it doesn't do it
for me to just be in corporate worship
on an iPad I need sisters speaking into
me I need Bible study with other
believers and so I think you need
Community you need a few people who are
older and wiser and who have no agenda
who don't work for you who don't want to
be you who want you to be conformed to
the image of Christ and then you need a
few
younger people you may not have the
bandwidth for them to live with you you
it may be once a month you meet them for
two hours and you I do a lot of walk
praying and so women who go will you
disciple me I go no because I'd be a a
terrible disciple or because I don't I
don't have the time I travel all the
time but I said I will meet you once a
month at Radner and we will walk and
pray and we will go into a really deep
place so I think it can look all
different ways but we really need to be
in that iron sharpening iron kind of
place ye yes and if you approach it like
this is not optional right this is an
imperative
of you trust him to make space and show
you what your priorities are I I did it
one way before kids and then when kids
came I take a little break and we did it
another way I was like we starting late
I hope y'all night hours cuz after
everybody go L at 8:30 then y'all can
come over but I did want them in my
space I wanted them to see my husband's
shoes on the floor and if I was going to
stay Godly you know and I wanted when he
came in and whatever that that for me
was a part of it too so the way your
disciple did it it is very much truth in
life right it's this applied truth what
does it mean to not just know the
scripture but to live it out and I think
God will show you what that can look
like in your life you might have a
cousin or a sister or a friend that he
wants you to start with you might not
need a big group in a curriculum and all
of that it is just a commitment to to
really be a funnel like this like this
is what God gives me I take it I grow in
my own s ific and then I I invest in the
lives of others cuz he says basically
that's how the gospel goes forward so
it's not like a Ministry you sign up for
like he's saying No this is how
replication happens yeah in different
seasons of life you may be afforded
different things or you may say I'm not
able to do that same type of thing but
now I can do this right over here you
know and so just even as we're speaking
I'm like okay Lord like what is my role
right now you know and you you've seen
some of the the kids who you know you
know
but but it's it was kind of like hers
except to where they didn't live with me
but it's like no what did the word say
what did we just talk about right there
so how do you match your life with it
not make it match with you that type of
a thing but like now I'm in a different
space and my kids aren't involved in
that because my kids are grown you know
what I'm saying but I'm like okay Lord I
I hear you telling me what it is that
you want me to do and I think for all of
us there's something different that he
may have us to do that may not be what
we were doing before it may be better it
may be in a different facet it might be
a different age group you know what I'm
saying so um just as I'm sitting here
I'm just like okay Lord like show me and
we all have influence so we we're all
dis you know discipling people according
to other people may say oh you're
already doing it you know you're when
you're post and in your books and in
your talks and in your but we know I
mean like who's allowed in my space
who's allowed to observe me who's
allowed to walk with me so that I can
you know I have often thought of the the
man whose friends took up a corner of
Matt carried him to the roof and laded
him to Jesus I love that story I love so
many facets of that story but just the
Practical
logical aspect of that story is he had
four people who was close enough to ask
he had four people close enough to go I
I can't carry the weight of my own life
I need to get closer to Jesus I need
help and I think we live in this culture
with a whole lot of Presumed Community
because you've got so many likes I'm
like those people don't know you you
there you have to have four people at
least you've got eye to eye with that
you can go I need you to pray for me
because I'm dying today and and we were
meant to run toward Jesus in community
and I'll say just real practically
speaking you know I didn't become a mom
until I was 50 and I think I've made
every mistake known to Motherhood it has
been such a generous gift from the Lord
but the places where I've mothered well
it's because I've watched other mothers
other christian mothers even sometimes I
was older chronologically but they
invited me to do life with them they say
come on over to our house for
Thanksgiving I watched you at
Thanksgiving I watched the way you loved
your kids I watched the way you loved
people who were who were extended family
and some of the things I've been able to
emulate to the glory of the Lord It's
because somebody else modeled it for me
and as a single woman I've watched
watched women who are married I've
watched the way they love their husbands
even if I never have a physical husband
God says he's the husband the husb I
have to know how to be a bride and so a
lot of the places where I have
grown closer to Jesus where I've matured
a bit spiritually is because somebody
was was gracious enough and intentional
enough to say come do this chapter of
life with me come walk with me for a
season and so any of you I think all of
us can extend some measure of a gift of
relationship to say come on it it's
going to look a little different but
come on and do a little life with me and
let's let's move toward Jesus together
and you can't talk about Holiness and
the fact that we're not pursuing it the
way we should and people are this and if
you're not discipling because that means
I'm I'm trying to be obedient to help
write this ship right so you can't
expect that people are just going to
find it figure it out all on their own
cuz we didn't I mean somebody had to
shape us and so I think it dovetails
well with what we've been talking about
all I only didn't find it I needed to be
corrected oh yeah cuz I found what I
thought I have a question to that point
though cuz y'all are older than me and
so I think that you have an
encouragement that I can't offer um
which is when I've spoken into spaces
about the need for older women to teach
the younger which Titus 2 says um
what I've heard is that many older women
feel
incompetent in their ability to serve
younger
women how do you encourage them to know
that you don't have to be cool nor
perfect to serve or be able to exate
Greek or Hebrew like what what is the
advice there um years ago and Lori will
say something wiser because she's
sweeter than me but but um years ago a
woman that that Nicole and I used to get
to do ministry with on the road she said
Lisa um women aren't interested in where
you got it right you're interested in
where you got it wrong and God redeemed
your story so I'd say the biggest issue
is that to not think you're the role
model it's Jesus is the role model yeah
I I totally agree with that um I think
the best thing we can do is just to
testify of the goodness of God you know
there's things that happened 30 years
ago that I didn't understand for 30
years and maybe I just got last week you
know but I think the older you get the
more I have experienced the faithfulness
of God that he does come through every
time in a way that he knows that he
purposes that I might have never
understood the hard things in life that
I didn't know or why that was happening
to me um but God knew and God took care
and now I can look back right on the
history of just trusting even when I
failed even when it felt like a failure
yeah and I can tell you about the
goodness of God thank you and and that's
kind of all of our stories that's what
Better Together kind of that was what
that was birthed out of I wanted to get
my friends the ones who just y'all have
such beautiful gifts and to Mentor
people the older and the younger you
know and and if if if they don't have a
place to go if you are locked up if you
are whatever your circumstances and you
could tune in and get Jada speaking into
your life and discip Lisa and you and
Nicole and you know and and hear a voice
that would speak to your heart you know
and resonate and and help guide people
that just don't know what to do right
now that's right there's a lot of that
people are people are I think even
coming through what we have in the last
year and a half two years they're just
traumatized there's a lot of traumatized
people there's a lot of people that need
some therapy and that's what this right
here that's right is all about and
that's what this right here is about you
know and just telling them maybe we
didn't do
right but but this is how God covered me
this is his grace that empowered me and
this is the season that he got me
through even in times when I didn't get
it y'all know in Joshua 2 where um you
know at the beginning of their of the
Wilderness wanderings God said just just
sit on the banks you don't have to do
anything quit being so loud just watch
me do it then he spends all that time
with them and they get to the Jordan and
it's at flood stage and he says this
time you don't just observe the miracle
you have to participate in it and they
had to get their feet wet and then he
dried up the Jordan and when they walked
through in dry land you remember he said
take the stones from the Jordan and make
this Ebenezer make this Stone Memorial
so in the future when your kids say what
did Yahweh do for you you can go let me
tell you about the Seas he's dried up in
my life as in as an
older uh Christ follower here's what I
bring to the table I have
rocks because I can go let me tell you
I've been walking with Jesus for 52
years I've never seen God's back I have
been an idiot I have been a sinner I
have been faithless I have been idolator
I've been unkind I've been let me tell
you how he disciplined me and was
faithful and he was holy and he was pure
and he was good I just have more rocks
because I've live longer and I think
sometimes to be a to have a discipl or a
mentor who will say say he's got you
he's got you because he carried me in a
season when I couldn't walk to Jackie's
question about how to encourage women
there there has to be a valuing of your
story right if you if you don't see your
story as valuable and divine valleys and
victories that that God allowed or
approved various things and your story
you don't see it as necessary to share
and so you know when you look the the
end of Luke and then the beginning of
Acts both authored by Luke and you see
these parallels what Jesus is talking
about this the Holy Spirit and Jerusalem
what you're doing and one he's like I
want you to be Go Go Make Disciples and
in Acts he say I want you to be my
Witnesses because that's really what it
is I don't need you to be a lawyer I
don't need you to argue for me I just
need you to testify and what's
interesting is they were going to be
obviously in that season literal
Witnesses they saw the resurrection and
Ascension but but I talked about this
last night with my ladies in Bible study
some witnesses are are there because
they witnessed what happened they saw it
but there are some people who are expert
Witnesses and they didn't see the crime
but they so know the subject matter
their testimony still holds weight in
court and so even the the resurrection
Ascension things that are PIV to our
faith that we didn't see I'm me tell you
what we saw you're expert on Jesus
Christ in your life you are an expert
witness and so if you value your story
and you don't see it as optional which I
keep saying then you will believe that
God has equipped you with with wherever
you are and what you and here's what he
does he will bring people across your
path that need your story they need what
you've been through and they need your
level of expertise um and and another
thing every woman is older than somebody
our middle schoolers are disciplined our
high school every person needs to feel
like who am I constantly pouring into
and so at any age you're older than
somebody sometimes it's age sometimes
it's just in your journey and your story
is valuable and so you if you believe
that this is an imp erative this is how
God has chosen to spread the gospel
through the Earth then the question is
not should I the question is God how
will you equip me to do this will you
show me the people or the person maybe
it's family maybe it's a stranger right
make make the provision show me you know
your Providence lay it out and then be
willing to say yes because we need it
and listen I'm this my platform
corporate discipleship is not the
business everybody cannot get it from
scrollable repost the things that I need
to most of the things I need to pour
into somebody or I need pour it into me
I cannot fit it into something postable
you know every discipleship meeting
shouldn't be in my opinion I mean it can
be but it's like there are young people
that are not going to come and say I
just want to sit at your house and have
a Bible study right it might be let's do
life together or I bake so come in as
I'm baking cookies I can show you or I
like to do this right here like teach
what you know what's your gift you know
what I'm saying and in that gift in that
living in that doing life you know show
them how the how their lives are to
match with the scriptures this is what
the scriptures my DIY discipleship I
have gotten so much stuff done these I
want your disci come on girl do my P
exactly we do projects done part of the
Great Commission exactly is that
literally when he says go therefore he's
saying as you go as you move through
life Make Disciples of all Nations
teaching them to obey all that I have
commanded you and then when you observe
Jesus's life the disciples were with him
not all of them all the time but they
were able to observe and learn and I
think that DIY that's a that's a real
good phrasing of it is good because when
I moved to Chicago uh by that time I'm
married I have one daughter and so I did
I needed a different degree of
discipleship and so I connected with
another woman who's a mother a wife all
the things and she would just say just
come over and so she and my expectation
is we going to open up the Bible and she
out there doing laundry she giving her
kids a bath exactly but she told me she
she said the Lord said just live out
your life in front of Jackie and there
was this one exchange that was real um
helpful and convicting to me I ain't
going to say her name her husband be
talking a lot sometimes and we were we
were like at dinner and at no point do
she ever disrespect him or cut him off
and I just I just I just noticed her she
just tapped his knee I was like wow like
that that just made the respect your
husband come alive for me I was like and
that's Holiness that's H like she she
trained me just by being impulsively
Godly to be a good wife she ain't say
none of that but I saw it and then when
I read the text I saw the connection and
so I think that's the beauty of
discipleship and that's what we need is
that we need the church Church to be the
church to equip us for the work of
ministry to to help us become mature and
it's
scary and it exposes your weaknesses
because it can be terrifying to tell
somebody I need help being holy right
but that's even a part of being holy and
we're all a part of that exactly and so
hey lean into it lean into community so
let's pray for the for the
Saints uh God thank you for um your
kindness and that you did not just save
us as individuals uh but you saved us
and then United us with other people um
and so we thank you for your visible
church we thank you that uh you have
given us the Holy Spirit we thank you
that you have given us teachers and
apostles and Prophets and people with
the gift of hospitality and ministration
and healing and mercy um all for the
building up uh of your church until we
uh attain that unity and that maturity
and I pray God just for all the things
that are trying to keep us divided uh
that we would be one as you and the
father I one so that the world would
believe that you were sent and so we
pray God just for courage to disciple
and the courage to be disciple we pray
for the wisdom to disciple and the
wisdom to be discipled and that through
all of this we would become a holy
people in Jesus name amen
amen
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