Why This Astrophysicist Left Atheism & Found Jesus
Summary
TLDRThis video script narrates a personal journey of discovery into the origins of the universe and the search for truth. The speaker, raised in Canada, recounts his childhood curiosity about stars, leading him to study physics and astronomy. His exploration of various religious texts and philosophical works culminates in a deep study of the Bible, which he finds remarkably consistent with scientific evidence. This leads him to a profound realization about the existence of a personal God, creator of the universe, and his commitment to Christianity. The narrative also touches on the implications of cosmic fine-tuning and the inadequacy of the multiverse theory as an explanation for the universe's design.
Takeaways
- 🌟 The speaker was born in Montreal, Canada, and moved to Vancouver, British Columbia at the age of four, where he was raised and educated.
- 🔭 At seven years old, a curiosity about stars led the speaker to the library, sparking a lifelong interest in physics and astronomy.
- 📚 The speaker's school trip to a public library with over 3 million volumes was pivotal in shaping his future career in astrophysics.
- 🤔 A debate on the nature of the universe during his teenage years led the speaker to explore various cosmologies and philosophies in search of answers.
- 🌌 The speaker's study of cosmology at 16 years old and the evidence favoring the Big Bang theory led him to consider the existence of a cosmic beginner.
- 📖 After exploring various religious texts, the speaker found the Bible's account of creation to align remarkably well with scientific findings.
- 🔬 The speaker's use of the scientific method to analyze the Bible's creation narrative revealed a consistency and accuracy that he did not find in other religious texts.
- 📚 The speaker's commitment to Christianity at the age of 19 was influenced by his inability to find contradictions or errors in the Bible, and its alignment with scientific discoveries.
- 🌐 The speaker discusses the development of space-time theorems, which suggest that space and time have a beginning, implying a creator beyond matter, energy, space, and time.
- 🔍 The speaker's exploration of cosmic fine-tuning provides evidence for a personal God, as the universe's specific conditions necessary for life suggest intentional design rather than random chance.
- 💭 The speaker addresses the anthropic principle and the multiverse theory, arguing that the improbability of the universe's fine-tuning points to a purposeful design rather than mere chance or infinite possibilities.
Q & A
Where was the speaker born and where was he raised?
-The speaker was born in Montreal, Canada, but his family moved to Vancouver, British Columbia when he was four years old, where he was raised and educated.
What sparked the speaker's interest in astrophysics?
-The speaker's interest in astrophysics was sparked at the age of seven when he looked up at the stars and asked his parents why they were hot, leading him to visit the library and read books on physics and astronomy.
What was the speaker's initial belief about the existence of God?
-The speaker was not raised in a Christian home and neither of his parents believed in a God that created the universe.
What led the speaker to start searching for the 'Cosmic beginner'?
-The speaker began to search for the 'Cosmic beginner' at the age of 17 after studying cosmology and being convinced by the evidence favoring the Big Bang cosmology, which suggested that the universe had a beginning.
What was the speaker's initial impression of the Bible when he started studying it?
-The speaker was astounded to find that the Bible followed the scientific method and accurately described and ordered the creation events, as well as the initial conditions of planet Earth.
How did the speaker's study of the Bible influence his personal beliefs?
-After 18 months of studying the Bible and finding no provable errors or contradictions, the speaker concluded that it was at least 10 to the 220 times more reliable than the second law of thermodynamics, leading him to put his trust in the message of the Bible.
What was the speaker's experience with the moral teachings of the Bible?
-The speaker found the moral teachings of the Bible to be incredibly beautiful and elegant, and he was attracted to living according to its moral standard, although he found it challenging to meet that standard.
What was the turning point for the speaker in his spiritual journey?
-The turning point for the speaker was when he realized that Jesus Christ offered to trade his moral perfection for the speaker's moral imperfection, which led the speaker to commit his life to Jesus at the age of 19.
How does the speaker view the concept of fine-tuning in the universe?
-The speaker views the fine-tuning of the universe as evidence of a personal God who created everything with the purpose of making possible the redemption of billions of human beings from their sin and evil.
What is the speaker's response to the idea that the universe could be eternal?
-The speaker argues against the idea of an eternal universe by referencing space-time theorems that suggest space and time have a beginning, implying a causal agent outside of matter, energy, space, and time that created the universe.
How does the speaker address the objection that the universe's fine-tuning could be a result of chance?
-The speaker uses an analogy of a firing squad missing their target to argue that the incredibly remote probabilities of the universe's fine-tuning suggest that someone intended for life to exist, rather than it being a product of pure chance.
Outlines
🌌 Early Curiosity in Astronomy and Biblical Revelation
The speaker recounts their childhood in Canada and their initial interest in astronomy sparked by a question about the stars. This led to a voracious reading habit in physics and astronomy from a young age. The narrative then shifts to their exploration of the origins of the universe through cosmology, where they were particularly drawn to the Big Bang theory. This scientific interest intersected with a philosophical and spiritual quest, leading the speaker to investigate various religious texts in search of a 'cosmic beginner.' The speaker's journey through different religious philosophies ultimately led them to the Bible, which they found to align remarkably well with scientific understanding and to provide answers to life's big questions.
📚 The Bible's Consistency with Science and Personal Conviction
The speaker delves into their rigorous study of the Bible over 18 months, seeking any contradictions or errors that would undermine its credibility. They found none, instead discovering numerous instances where the Bible accurately predicted future scientific discoveries. This reliability, compared to the second law of thermodynamics, led the speaker to a profound trust in the Bible's message. The speaker's scientific background as a physics student at the University of British Columbia is highlighted, emphasizing the significance of their findings. The narrative culminates in a commitment to Christianity at the age of 19, a decision deeply rooted in both the Bible's alignment with scientific truths and its moral teachings.
🔭 The Inconsistencies of Other Worldviews and the Clarity of Biblical Teaching
The speaker contrasts their findings in the Bible with the inconsistencies they encountered in other religious texts, such as the Quran and Hindu scriptures. They critique the repetitive and vague language in these texts, which they found to be spiritually unsatisfying and scientifically inaccurate. The speaker also discusses the philosophical debate between an eternal universe and an eternal God, highlighting the space-time theorems that suggest a beginning to the universe and, by extension, a creator. The speaker's Christian worldview is reinforced by these scientific findings, which they believe confirm the Bible's account of creation.
🛡️ The Importance of Safe and Wholesome Digital Content for Children
Shifting focus from personal narrative to societal concern, the speaker introduces an app called 'True Play,' designed to provide children with safe, wholesome, and God-centered content. The app offers games, comics, and animated shorts, all free from ads, in-app purchases, and chat rooms. It is presented as a peace-of-mind solution for parents concerned about the content their children are exposed to online. The speaker emphasizes that while this app is not a substitute for family time and other nurturing activities, it can serve as a protective measure in an increasingly digital world.
🌟 The Case for a Personal God and the Fine-Tuning of the Universe
The speaker addresses the ongoing debate about the nature of the universe and the existence of a creator, highlighting the shift in scientific literature towards conceding the possibility of deism. They argue that the evidence for cosmic fine-tuning overwhelmingly supports the existence of a personal God, as opposed to a non-personal force. The speaker discusses their work on cosmic fine-tuning, explaining how the precise conditions necessary for life suggest intentional design rather than chance. They also refute the idea of the anthropic principle and the multiverse theory, using an analogy to illustrate the implausibility of design resulting from infinite universes.
🙏 Embracing Christianity and Experiencing Moral Transformation
The speaker concludes their narrative by sharing the personal transformation they underwent after embracing Christianity. They describe the moral teachings of the Bible as beautiful and compelling, leading them to strive for a higher moral standard. However, they also acknowledge their inability to meet this standard on their own. The speaker recounts the realization that Jesus Christ's life and sacrifice offer a path to moral perfection and forgiveness. This realization led them to commit their life to Christ, resulting in a profound personal change. The speaker reflects on the Holy Spirit's role in their ongoing transformation, illustrating the tangible impact of their spiritual journey.
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Keywords
💡Astrophysics
💡Cosmology
💡Big Bang Cosmology
💡Relativism
💡Scriptures
💡Scientific Method
💡Moral Training
💡Redemption
💡Fine-Tuning
💡Theological Debate
💡Anthropic Principle
Highlights
The speaker was born in Montreal, Canada, and moved to Vancouver, British Columbia at the age of four, with a profound interest in the stars sparked at seven years old.
A childhood visit to the library and a field trip to the OU Public Library led to a voracious reading habit in physics and astronomy, shaping the speaker's future career in astrophysics.
At the age of 16, the speaker delved into cosmology, influenced by ongoing debates about the nature of the universe, including the Big Bang theory.
The realization that the universe must have had a beginning led to a search for the 'cosmic beginner', exploring various philosophical and religious texts.
A critical analysis of religious texts, including Hinduism, Buddhism, and Islam, revealed inconsistencies with astronomical knowledge and led to further exploration.
The Gideon Bible's alignment with the scientific method and accurate descriptions of creation events stood out as a significant finding for the speaker.
The speaker's 18-month study of the Bible revealed no contradictions and over a hundred accurate predictions of future scientific discoveries.
A pivotal moment occurred when comparing the reliability of the Bible to the second law of thermodynamics, leading to a deep trust in the Bible's message.
At age 19, the speaker committed their life to Jesus Christ, influenced by the Bible's consistency and the implications of its teachings on morality and redemption.
The speaker's journey involved a detailed examination of the scientific method as applied to the biblical creation narrative, emphasizing the importance of establishing a frame of reference.
The speaker critiqued other world religions for their lack of consistency with scientific knowledge, highlighting the Bible's unique alignment with observable facts.
The exploration of space-time theorems and their implications for the creation of the universe, supporting the existence of a causal agent beyond space and time.
The speaker's books on cosmic fine-tuning provide evidence for a personal God, arguing against the idea of an uncreated eternal universe.
A response to the anthropic principle and the idea of being winners of a cosmic lottery, emphasizing the intentional design of the universe for human life.
The critique of the Multiverse theory as an escape from the implications of fine-tuning, using a thought experiment to illustrate the philosophical fallacy of infinite universes.
The speaker's personal transformation through embracing Christian faith, recognizing the moral teachings of the Bible and the transformative work of the Holy Spirit.
An analogy used by Richard Swinburne to counter the argument of pure chance in the existence of life, advocating for the intentionality behind the universe's design.
The speaker's personal story of moral struggle and the realization of the need for divine intervention, leading to a deeper understanding of God's offer of moral perfection through Christ.
Transcripts
[Music]
so tell me about your Origins your your
family and what was
your initial view of life the universe
the answers to the big questions I don't
know just help me understand your
mindset at
onet well I was born in Montreal Canada
but when I was four years of age uh
family moved out to Vancouver British
Columbia and so I was born raised and
educated in Canada and when I was seven
years of age uh I looked up at the stars
and I said Mom Dad are those Stars hot
and they said yes son they're hot I said
can you please tell me why they're hot
and they said well for that you'll have
to go to the library well it was and
when I was age seven our school had a
field trip to the OU Public Library
which at that time had more than 3
million volumes and uh I was given we
were all given a card so I came home
with five books on physics and astronomy
and every weekend I would go back and
check out another four or five or six
books on physics and astronomy from the
age of eight onwards I knew my future
career would be in
astrophysics now I was not raised in a
Christian Home in fact I didn't know of
any Christians growing up uh but my
parents believed in Morality and so they
gave us moral training uh but neither
one of them believed that there was a
God that created the universe uh but
every year uh growing up I would focus
on a different subdiscipline of
astronomy and so when I was aged 16 I
spent a year studying
cosmology that's the science of the
origin and history of the universe and
at that time there is a debate going on
is it a hesitating universe is it an
oscillating Universe a steady state
universe or a big bang universe but even
at that time the astronomical evidence
was heavily favoring Big Bang cosmology
and I knew if it was Big Bang then the
universe had a beginning if it had a
beginning there must be a cosmic
beginner so as at age 17 I began to
search for that Cosmic beginner Ry
didn't know where look but I thought a
good place to start would be Emanuel
Kant uh he's the father of cosmology so
I read his critique of pure reason and
some of his other writings and
recognized that uh things were not
consistent with what I knew to be true
in astronomy I looked at renie Dart a
couple of other philosophers and I said
I think I'm going to have to look at the
world's holy books to try to get some
understanding I began with the Hindu vas
and I says oh this is where the
oscillating Universe model comes from
Hinduism is founded on the idea of
reincarnation and fundamentally on the
principle that the universe
reincarnates but as I read the vas I
realized they got the number wrong
because every cycle of reincarnation for
the universe they said was 4.32 billion
years and I knew the universe was older
than that uh and I also knew that the
Universe had way too much tropy for
there to be any mechanism to rebound the
universe so I put Hinduism aside I next
looked at Buddhism and as I read the
Buddhist commentaries realize that they
have the same cosmology as Hinduism then
I looked at the Quran and that there's
three creation texts in the Quran but
they're not consistent and I was
particularly Disturbed that it claimed
that the stars were closer to us than
the planets it's like you don't need a
telescope to know that that's incorrect
I looked at Zoroastrianism I looked at
several other religions but finally I
picked up a Gideon Bible that was given
to me uh in our public school and when I
went through that Gideon Bible you know
just looking at the very first page
Genesis 1 I was astounded that I
perfectly followed the scientific method
now I was naive I didn't know where the
scientific method came from years later
I discovered it had its origins in the
Bible's creation text uh but as I used
that scientific method I recognize that
all the events in Genesis 1 were
correctly described and the correct
chronological order the best I'd found
outside of the Bible was the en numaish
which got two out of 14 correct uh but
the Bible got a 10 for 10 score on the
order and the description of the
creation events and four for four on the
initial conditions of planet Earth and
so that's what motivated me to say you
know what this book The Bible deserves
serious study and I spent 18 months
reading and studying the Bible uh
anywhere from an hour to an hour and a
half a day uh looking for provable error
contradiction because I felt if this is
from the one that created Universe there
will be no erors there will be no
contradictions and by the time I went
got to revelation 22 I realized I'd not
found a single provable error
contradiction instead I found over a
hundred places where the Bible had
accurately predicted future scientific
discoveries in fact at that time I was a
sophomore physics student at the
University of British Columbia and when
I came to that conclusion it was the
same week our physics professor said
here's an assignment calculate the
probability that one of the students in
this class will be killed by a sudden
reversal of the second law
thermodynamics within the next seven
days that probability is roughly one
part in 10 the 80th it's so extremely
remote that we realize such an event has
never happened anytime anywhere in the
universe but what I had just determined
is that these predictions of future
scientific discoveries showed that the
Bible was at least 10 to the 220 times
more reliable than the second law
thermodynamics and since I trusted my
life and the reliability of the second
law thermodynamics I said the only
rational thing to do is put at least
that much confidence in the message of
the Bible so that's what motivated me to
sign my name in the back of a Gideon
Bible at age 19 committing my life to
Jesus Christ
receiving his gift of forgiveness uh for
all of my offenses against God and other
people and also realizing it only makes
sense to put Jesus in charge of my life
he knows better than I do what's best
for
me so now we have to spend the next hour
unpacking your intro there because you
covered so many different things that I
want to drill into Let's uh I I don't
know if this is too much sort of off the
top of your head or whatever but I am so
fascinated what those 10 criteria were
that you had in mind and then what those
four criteria were so I don't know if
that's better just to tell people to go
to a certain article or whatnot but
that's I want to point right point to
that I could do that okay I Do cover it
in detail in my book navigating Genesis
but like step one of the scientific
method do not interpret until you first
establish the frame of reference or the
point of view and for the six days of
creation in Genesis 1 Genesis 1 tells us
the spirit of God is hovering over the
surface of the Waters of planet Earth
underneath the cloud layer not above the
cloud layer and that's also clarified in
Job 38 where it says that God had
blanketed uh the Seas of the ear Earth
with clouds that kept the Seas dark so
that's the frame of reference Genesis
1:2 also gives you the four initial
condition s that it's dark everywhere
over the surface of the waters the
waters cover the whole surface of the
Earth and the Earth is formless and
empty it's unfit for life and it's empty
of life but now the spirit of God begins
to work and what you see in the six days
of creation is God step by step filling
the Earth with life and preparing the
Earth physically uh for his creation of
human beings 10 specific creation events
and as I mentioned they're all correctly
described relative to the established
scientific record and they're all in the
correct chronological
order now when you were talking about
the different contradictions that you
experienced within the other world
religions prior to you're seeing the
consistency that you found within the
biblical worldview you talked about
within Islam that there was what did you
say there was three
different cosmology occurr three
different major texts on creation okay
one of which is looks like has been
borrowed from the Bible then you got two
others uh but one that Disturbed me is
where it talks about how the universe
can be described by seven spheres and
there's different objects on those
spheres uh but they actually have the
planets on a sphere above the sphere
that has the Stars so it's like uh I
knew that wasn't correct I knew the
description of the seven spheres wasn't
correct either so uh that's that's just
one of many things the other thing that
bothered me about reading the Quran it's
incredibly
repetitious and its language is quite
vague and it looks like uh the author of
the Quran is going overboard to make it
sound spiritual and so there's all these
references to the Great and Powerful God
but it's repeated so many times it's
like you know what are you trying to
prove and that's something I also saw in
the Buddhist commentaries and in the uh
the Hindu vas this highly repetitious
and overly esoteric and spiritual
sounding language and you when I read
the Bible I noticed that Jesus made the
comment do not make repetitious prayers
God hears you you don't have to repeat
over and over again and so we need to be
specific about our prayers uh but to go
into repetitious ritual is not something
that God wants and I says that sounds
very reasonable for someone who created
the universe and wants a relationship
with each individual human being I've
been coming up against this comment on
this channel a lot where and it's sort
of it sort of comes out of I've been
doing some sort of debate commentary
when it was like John Linux and Richard
Dawkins debate
and you know the big question comes out
of is it an
uncreated eternal universe or an
uncreated eternal God and there's sort
of is almost like this false equivalency
if you believe that those are both
equally theoretically feasible I want to
zoom in on what you were saying about
the actual science regarding the
universe and because I think a lot of
people it seems like still believe that
it could be Eternal e even even uh even
before getting into multiverses and all
of that uh it seems like people still a
lot of people hold a steady state type
of model in their in their mind and I'm
just wondering if you can actually kind
of talk the audience through what like
what are the what are the options at
this point and what is almost like the
development of thought around the origin
of the universe and where are we
actually at today to try to clear up you
know some of this confusion well what
bothered me about reading the great pH
philosophers is that they talked about
time and space being Eternal I also saw
that in the Eastern religions what I saw
in the Bible was that space and time are
not Eternal God creates space and time
when he creates the universe so that's a
key factor that separates the Bible from
the non-biblical religions of the world
and I was doing this study at the same
time that physicists in Britain and
South Africa were developing the first
of the space-time theorems we now have
over 30 of these space-time theorems and
they're based on two fundamental
assumptions the theorem is true if the
universe contains mass and you and I are
living proof that the Universe indeed
contains Mass the second condition is
that the equations of general relativity
reliably describe the movements of
massive bodies in the universe now when
I was first exploring this in my teenage
years astronomers could only prove that
to be correct to about 1 or 2% percision
we can now prove that that's correct to
better than 15 places at the decimal so
today there's no basis for doubting
these two conditions and what the
theorem States is that space and time
have a beginning space and time are
created which implies that there must be
a causal agent outside of matter energy
space and time that creates our universe
of matter energy space and time and so
the space time theorems basically
establish it's the god of the Bible that
created the universe a God who has the
power to create space-time Dimensions at
will and remove them at will and so this
is what distinguishes the god of the
Bible from the gods of the non-biblical
religions now I think some people here
are going to say how do you how do we
know that it's
not uh in other words how do we know
that it's a personal being as opposed to
some sort of force or I've heard people
talk about I don't even know what people
are making up Quantum winds or just you
know some idea of a of a of a power
that's capable of this but that's not
necessarily you know Yahweh or or even a
God who has manifested himself in any
particular way well you're correctly
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in the description now back to Dr Ross
I mean I've got many books written by
atheist scientists in my library but
what I've noticed in the last five years
books produced by atheist physicists and
astronomers are conceding deism I mean
even Lawrence Krauss is saying on page
173 of his book a universe from nothing
that we cannot take deism off the
scientific table the force of the
SpaceTime theorems established there
must must be a causal agent beyond space
and time that creates our universe the
debate has really shifted is this God
this deistic God a theistic God is this
God a personal being and that explains
why I've written seven books on Cosmic
fine-tuning uh over my career because
that is the go-to evidence to establish
we're dealing not just with Transcendent
causal agent but a personal being
because what you notice in the Bible it
makes the point repeatedly that God
began his works of redemption before he
created anything at all which implies
that everything that God created is for
the purpose of making possible the
Redemption of billions of human beings
from their sin and evil so in my latest
book on fine tuning designed of the core
I make the point that the universe as a
whole and all of its size scale
subcomponents going from the cosmic web
down to our Super Galaxy cluster our
galaxy cluster our local group of
galaxies our galaxy The Local bubble in
which we're existing the local fluff our
solar system I mean our star the planets
the asteroid and Comet belts our planet
uh the interior of our planet the Moon
the interior of the Moon every bit of it
is uh designed to make possible the
Redemption of billions of human beings
from their sin and
evil and we actually are able to
establish numbers on the degree of fine
tuning if people want to see that uh we
have at reasons.org
finetuning a 300 page compendium which
gives all the calculations of the degree
of fine-tuning that's necessary for
example just to get human beings on one
planet in the universe and that
probability is less than one chance in
10 to the 1600th power that's 1600 zeros
after the one and I compare that with
the very best examples of human
inventiveness and design and there we
get like one chance or you know one part
in 10 to the 25 or 10 to the 26 so we're
getting with the one that created the
universe is not 26 zeros after the one
we got, 1600 zeros after the one which
makes the point that the one that
created the universe at a minimum is 10
to the 1500 times more intelligent more
knowledgeable more creative more
powerful more caring than we human
beings and those are only attributes
that a personal being can manifest but
the degree to which we see these
personal attributes again isolates the
god of the Bible from the gods of the
other major religions of the world you
know it's the god of the Bible that is
so intimately related with his
creation Playing devil's advocate for
just a second because I know that
someone is going to hear what you said
and and have a knee-jerk response to to
say well this is just the privilege that
we have as the winners of this Lottery
and so we have the Fe feeling that it's
designed for us when really probab you
know probabilistically we just are at
this place now and so we're looking back
and we have this feeling that it's so
unlikely sort of the anthropic principle
idea how how would you address that type
of push back to say no this isn't just
that we got lucky and things played
themselves out but like what do you make
help me help that person to see why it's
more reasonable that this is actually
designed rather than just lucky I'm not
the first one to deal with this uh the
British philosopher Richard swinburn
more than 30 years ago responded to that
objection and he came up with an analogy
I mean they're about to be executed by a
firing squad and so they have you stand
blindfolded and uh there are 20
Sharpshooters with high powered rifles
uh standing 30 ft away and they're told
to shoot and kill you and so the 20 of
them shoot their guns and somehow you
survive and you look out at the 20
Sharpshooters after they take the
blindfold off and said wow they all
missed Richard swinburn makes the point
the only reason that they would have all
missed is either somebody put blanks in
all of their guns or all 20 of those
Sharpshooters wanted you to live there's
no way they would have not have killed
you at had the intent of murdering you
or executing you and likewise they say
when you look at these incredibly remote
probabilities the only rational
conclusion is there's somebody out there
who wanted us to live and that wanted us
to get the victory over the sin and evil
uh in our life it makes no sense that
we're just here by a product of pure
chance now what some atheists have done
is to propose what's called the
Multiverse fact I've been speaking on
fine tuning since the
1970s and I remember telling audiences
in the
1980s that the evidence for fine-tuning
the points of the god of the Bible is
getting a minimum of a thousand times
stronger with every month of new
scientific discoveries it's
exponentially increasing in the degree
of evidence and eventually uh the case
uh for a personal God is is going to
become so overwhelming that atheists
will have nowhere else to go but to
propose there's an infinite number of
universes where they're all different
from one another and we happen to live
in the one lucky Universe where
everything is just right but what I told
audiences in the 1980s whenever any
skeptic appeals to Infinity they've got
nothing and basically explain to lay
audiences infinity plus infinity is
infinity infinity times infinity is
infinity infinity to the Infinity power
is infinity so by appealing to Infinity
you can explain anything you want now
what I've done in my book The Creator in
the cosmos fourth edition is to give you
an analogy that drives home that point
if there really is an infinite number of
universes where they're all different
from one another you'll of an infinite
number of planets identical to our
present planet Earth and on those
infinite number of planet Earth you're
going to have an infinite variety of
birch tree species and birch trees have
the property that they peel thin white
pieces of bark but if you get an
infinite variety of birch tree species
one of those species at least one will
peel thin white pieces of bark that are
perfectly rectangular that measure 8 and
a half by 11 in and these pieces of bark
will fall on soils with random chemical
in them that'll make random markings on
those pieces of birch bark which will
duplicate every equation every
photograph every paragraph every diagram
and every scientific research paper
that's ever been published so those
millions of scientific research papers
they did not come from the minds of
scientists the Multiverse did it so
you're basically exposing the
philosophical fallacy of appealing to a
Multiverse to get around the design if
you do that there is no design anywhere
all of our human designs are negated at
the same
time that's fascinating I need to chew
on that but I really I really I've never
heard that before and I really like that
analogy that's very interesting let's
get back for a second to your personal
story because I'm curious now so far
everything we've covered is is very much
sort of in the realm of your truth Quest
and I'm curious at what point did did
this kind of come home for you and at
what point did you actually um enter
into a relationship with this God that
you had been searching for and studying
about well while I was going through the
Bible over that 18mon period trying to
determine is this the inspired inherent
word of the one that created
Universe I was also fascinated by the
morality I was seeing promoted in the
Bible and realize it's moral message is
incredibly beautiful and elegant it's
unlike any other moral message I saw in
any other religion I was very attracted
to it and said I want to live that way
so I remember during those 18 months
doing everything I could to live up to
the moral standard that I saw in the
Bible but the harder I tried the more I
realized I don't make that standard I'm
falling
short uh but as I read through the Bible
I realize that's the message of the
Bible that every human being falls short
of God's standard he's written as law in
the heart of every human being the
conscience that's within it and all of
us have failed to live up to our
conscience and so it told me God does
not great on a curve he demands moral
perfection I don't have it but as I read
through the 66 books of the Bible I kept
seeing repeated over and over again God
wants to do for me what I can't do for
myself he wants to trade my moral
imperfection for his moral perfection
and he even sent the creator of the
universe God the son the planet Earth to
live a life of moral perfection in front
of us and when I read the gospel
accounts What impressed me Jesus of
Nazareth in front of a large crowd that
included his mother and his brothers and
his sisters said can any of you accuse
me of sin or a moral failing no one
could I mean you're not going to fool
your mother you're not going to fool
your brothers they all agreed he was
morally perfect and so I said this is
the one and then Jesus as it tells us in
the gospel accounts willingly took upon
himself the penalty for all the offenses
of every human being that ever lived and
basically said uh I will pay for you
which you can't pay for yourself I said
that's a that's a a that's an offer I
can't turn down and as I mentioned
earlier also realizing he knows better
than I do what's best for my life and so
becoming a Christian is receiving God's
offer forgiveness through his payment on
the cross but also realizing I need to
make him the master of my life and take
direction from him and what you see in
the gospel account says if you do that
God will say send you as Holy Spirit and
your Holy Spirit step by step day by day
uh will transform you into the character
of Christ and I've experienced that
process that's the proof that this has
really taken home in my life because I
realize the character attributes I
manifest today are not what I manifested
before I gave my life to Jesus
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