Victory Leadership Podcast: Relational Unity
Summary
TLDRIn the Victory Leadership Podcast, Pastor CJ Nunez interviews Pastor Gilbert Foliente, Executive Director of Every Nation Philippines, on the art of being a relational leader. Pastor Gilbert emphasizes the importance of building trust and unity through strong relationships, drawing on biblical principles and practical advice. He discusses the significance of valuing people, effective communication, and conflict resolution while highlighting the role of love and learning in becoming more Christ-like leaders. The conversation concludes with a prayer for leaders striving to improve their relational skills.
Takeaways
- 😀 CJ Nunez introduces the Victory Leadership Podcast, which aims to equip leaders in their calling to God and to make disciples.
- 👋 Pastor Gilbert Foley Entei, the executive director of Every Nation Philippines, is the guest speaker known for being a relational leader.
- 🔗 The importance of being relational is emphasized through a 2012 Gallup report, which highlights the significance of having a friend at work for job fulfillment.
- 🤝 Building relationships is crucial for trust in leadership, as trust is the currency of leadership, and relationships enhance it.
- 👨👩👧👦 The concept of being relational is not about changing one's personality but valuing others, as exemplified by Jesus' treatment of people.
- 🌐 The phrase 'better together' is connected to relational intelligence, suggesting strength in unity and the ability to accomplish more collectively.
- 🤔 Being relational involves maintaining healthy relationships, which includes resolving conflicts and promoting unity within groups.
- 🙏 Forgiveness and overlooking offenses are the first steps in dealing with conflicts, as per biblical teachings in Proverbs.
- 🗣️ Communication is a vital skill for relational leaders, including the ability to confront and reconcile in a respectful and effective manner.
- ❤️ The two main aspects of being a relational leader are love and learn: love for God and people, and learning interpersonal skills to convey that love.
- 📚 Listening is a critical part of communication and is essential for avoiding miscommunication and understanding others' perspectives.
Q & A
What is the main topic of the Victory Leadership Podcast episode featuring Pastor Gilbert?
-The main topic of the episode is being a relational leader and how it helps in leading Every Nation Philippines.
How does Pastor Gilbert define a relational leader?
-Pastor Gilbert defines a relational leader as someone who values people, similar to the definition given by Akoni in his book 'Relational Intelligence'.
What does Pastor Gilbert believe is the currency of leadership?
-Pastor Gilbert believes that the currency of leadership is trust, and building relationships with people is a way to increase trust.
How does Pastor Gilbert connect the concept of being relational with the teachings of Jesus?
-Pastor Gilbert connects the concept of being relational with Jesus by pointing out that Jesus treated people with value and called his followers friends, as mentioned in the book of John.
What does Pastor Gilbert suggest as the first step in dealing with conflicts among leaders?
-The first step in dealing with conflicts, according to Pastor Gilbert, is to forgive and let go of the offense.
What is the biblical reference Pastor Gilbert uses to emphasize the importance of unity?
-Pastor Gilbert refers to Ephesians chapter 4, which speaks about keeping the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.
What are the two main components Pastor Gilbert suggests for becoming a relational leader?
-The two main components Pastor Gilbert suggests are to love (God and people) and to learn (interpersonal skills).
How does Pastor Gilbert view the importance of communication in being a relational leader?
-Pastor Gilbert views communication as a vital skill for relational leaders, emphasizing the need to avoid miscommunication and to express thoughts and feelings honestly and openly.
What does Pastor Gilbert believe is essential in maintaining a healthy relationship with people?
-Pastor Gilbert believes that being humble, gentle, and patient with one another, as well as resolving conflicts, is essential in maintaining healthy relationships.
What is the prayer request Pastor Gilbert makes at the end of the podcast?
-Pastor Gilbert prays for the leaders to pursue a relationship with God, to become more like Christ, and to see every person they lead as immeasurably valuable to God.
What does the phrase 'Better Together' signify in the context of the podcast?
-The phrase 'Better Together' signifies the strength in numbers and the ability to accomplish greater things when working together, as supported by Ecclesiastes chapter 4 in the Bible.
Outlines
🎙️ Podcast Introduction and Importance of Relational Leadership
The transcript starts with an introduction to the Victory Leadership Podcast hosted by CJ Nunez, a pastor at Victory. The podcast's goal is to equip leaders in their calling to God. The episode features Pastor Gilbert Foley Entei, the executive director of Every Nation Philippines, discussing the significance of being a relational leader. It emphasizes a 2012 Gallup report highlighting the importance of having a friend at work for job fulfillment. Pastor Gilbert shares how being relational helps in building trust and a sense of family within the organization, which is crucial for personal and collective fulfillment.
🤝 The Essence of Relational Leadership and Biblical Insights
This paragraph delves into the importance of relational leadership, drawing parallels with trust as the currency of leadership. It references biblical teachings from 1st Thessalonians and the Gospel of John to illustrate the relational terms used by Jesus and Paul. The discussion explores the misconception that being relational requires a particular personality, emphasizing that it's about valuing people, much like Jesus did. The concept of 'better together' is introduced, linking unity and relational intelligence for greater productivity and efficiency.
🔗 Maintaining Healthy Relationships and Dealing with Conflicts
The conversation shifts to maintaining healthy relationships and the importance of unity amidst differences. A Peanuts strip analogy is used to illustrate the power of unity. The Bible's teachings from Ephesians chapter 4 are cited to emphasize humility, gentleness, and patience in maintaining unity. Conflict resolution strategies are discussed, including forgiveness as the first step, followed by direct confrontation with the aim of reconciliation. The importance of being both relational and confrontational in a healthy manner is highlighted.
🛠️ Tips for Becoming a Relational Leader and Skills to Develop
Pastor Gilbert offers advice on becoming a relational leader, simplifying it to two key components: love and learn. Loving God and people is essential, as is learning interpersonal skills to effectively communicate that love. He suggests that communication skills, handling offense, and working with different personalities are vital to develop. Listening is particularly emphasized as a crucial part of communication to prevent misunderstandings. The paragraph concludes with a reminder that striving to be like Christ is the ultimate goal in becoming a relational leader.
🙏 Closing Prayer and Final Thoughts
The final paragraph of the script concludes with a prayer led by Pastor Gilbert, asking for God's grace to pursue a more Christ-like character and to value every person in leadership. The prayer serves as a blessing for those striving to become better leaders and to resolve conflicts. CJ Nunez expresses gratitude to Pastor Gilbert for his contribution to the podcast and reiterates the aim of the Victory Leadership Podcast to inspire leaders to grow in their roles.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Relational Leadership
💡Fulfillment
💡Trust
💡Unity
💡Conflict Resolution
💡Communication
💡Forgiveness
💡Humility
💡Personality
💡Christ-like
💡Learning
Highlights
CJ Nunez introduces the Victory Leadership Podcast and its aim to equip leaders.
Pastor Gilbert Foley Entei, Executive Director of Every Nation Philippines, is the guest.
The importance of being a relational leader in leading Every Nation Philippines is discussed.
A 2012 Gallup report is cited, emphasizing the value of having a friend at work for job fulfillment.
Relational leadership is linked to trust-building and fulfilling roles within an organization.
The concept of relational leadership is distinguished from personality traits.
Relational intelligence is defined as valuing people, as per Akoni's book.
Jesus is presented as the ultimate example of a relational leader.
The phrase 'better together' is explored in the context of relational intelligence.
Ecclesiastes 4 is referenced to highlight the strength in unity and numbers.
Maintaining healthy relationships involves believing in the power of unity.
Ephesians 4 is cited to discuss the importance of unity and peace in resolving conflicts.
Forgiveness and overlooking offenses are presented as the first steps in conflict resolution.
The importance of confronting issues directly for reconciliation is emphasized.
Tips for becoming a more relational leader include loving God, people, and learning interpersonal skills.
Communication skills are highlighted as vital for effective relational leadership.
The ability to handle offense and work with different personalities is discussed as key interpersonal skills.
Listening is underscored as a crucial part of the communication process in leadership.
A closing prayer is offered for leaders striving to become more relational and to resolve conflicts.
The final thoughts encourage leaders to pursue becoming more Christ-like for effective relational leadership.
Transcripts
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hi everyone I'm CJ Nunez one of the
pastors in victory and you're watching
the victory leadership podcast this
podcast aims to equip leaders like you
in light of the calling that God has for
you as we honor him and make disciples
today's episode is a very special one
because we have with us pastor Gilbert
Foley Entei
the executive director of every nation
Philippines pastor Gilbert welcome hey
CJ thanks for inviting me here well it's
such an honor for me to interview you
today what we're going to talk about
today is a very important topic which
are very much known for it's going to be
being a relational leader Cox and pastor
Gilbert I know that you're known to be a
relational leader how does that help you
in leading every nation Philippines how
this being relational helped me in my
role well I remember a 2012 Gallup
report where it says that in the
workplace 50 percent of those people who
feel like they have a very strong
connection at work they do so because
they have a friend at work and there are
many more studies that says having a
fail at work is more important for their
fulfillment in their job than the actual
work itself so even in every nation as
we continue to build the organization
work together
I believe it plays a major role for
people to feel like they're part of a
great group of people they're part of
family they find people there that they
would consider not just work mates right
but really friends I really think that
helps me first for me personally to find
fulfilment in my job and second for the
people to also find fulfillment in their
job as we build together relationally
how important is being relational in
light of leading people oh very
important I would say because the
currency of leadership is trust every
great leader is rich in trust and other
ways we build trust and not only build
trust but increases trust is when we
build relationship with people the more
we build with people the more we connect
with people the more they trust us in
1st Thessalonians when Paul was
addressing the church he would use
relational terms like mother father
sister brother even a nursing mother he
used that term Jesus in the book of John
said I no longer call you servants I
call you friends now not a lot of people
would say I am very relational I would
say by may you what would you say for
those people what does it take to be a
relational leader does that mean to say
I had to change my personality that's a
good question though a lot of people
have this miss nomer about what it is to
be relational some people think I need
to be outgoing yes I need to be
talkative I need to be like a politician
I entered the room and I see someone
here I see someone there I like the most
famous person in the group but I would
say that being relational is far from
being just an outgoing person it's not
about personality it's not about your
outlook in life right I really feel like
being relational is what things Akoni in
his book relational intelligence defined
it as a person who values people so
being relational means I value you I
value the people who goes in my victory
group I value the people I work with I
value the people I interact with and if
we look at Jesus and how he treated
people he always treated people with
value and that's why I believe Jesus is
the most relational leader that we can
we can emulate it's great to understand
that we don't have to change
personalities it starts internally being
able to build relate
Cinelli also has got to do with how
whole you are inside how God has crafted
you right and how God has made you into
this wonderful creation it's very common
that we hear the phrase better together
in our movement how does that better
yeah hashtag better together how does
that relate to relational intelligence
there a connection between the two in
the Bible in Ecclesiastes chapter 4 when
the Bible talks about meaningless it
says there's another meaningless thing I
saw under the Sun there was a man all
alone mm-hmm but then it says two are
better than one so if I'm going to
paraphrase what the Bible is saying and
what we're always saying hashtag better
together that's like what brother Steph
would say there's strength in numbers
and that's very important very important
to know that we can be more productive
when we're together we can be more
efficient when we're together we can do
greater things when we're together
that's what we always say if I can do
this this much accomplish this much when
we do things together we can accomplish
this much so I really believe that with
all my heart we are better together
thank you for that
after Gilbert and I personally believe
that as well
seeing what our leaders would do for us
the next generation as we all function
together on in that sense creates a
better result for all of our movements
now as you've mentioned the value of
being a relational leader pastor Gilbert
how can we then maintain a healthy
relationship with people that's a great
question I remember uh I'm going to go
deep now okay go ahead
a peanut stripped Carson strip where
Lionel's and Charlie Brown and talking
about
he said Charlie Brown said - can you
give me the remote control - said no I
won't and he said give it to me and he
said give me one reason why I said this
and said Five Fingers what does it seem
as if these five fingers they don't mean
anything okay but when I start curling
them together it becomes a very strong
weapon that's a power of unity and I
think it starts with us believing that
there's power in unity we can do greater
things together and as long as we think
that then I believe we will avoid being
divided because of differences because
of a friends because the fact is all of
us will be offended by someone we have
been offended even by people close to us
yeah but that's the whole point of
making sure that no matter what happens
we fix it we resolve it because we're
committed to unity the Bible says in
Ephesians chapter 4 to keep the unity of
the Spirit through the bond peace yeah
but then previous to that there was a
verse that says be humble be gentle be
patient with one another so I guess all
those things will really help us keep
the unity amid conflicts and
disagreements and passionate discussions
and debates so my next question is how
should we deal with conflicts with other
leaders in the church or even within our
victory groups if you look at the
biblical way of how to respond to
conflict the first step really is to be
able to forgive and let go of the
offense that's the first posture the
Bible says in Proverbs that it is to a
man's glory to overlook an offense so if
by the grace of God and by the power of
the Holy Spirit you're able to overcome
and overlook that's really the first
step now if you really feel like is too
much I can sleep I can eat it's really
affecting me then you go to what the
Bible says you confront immediately
the fun front means to talk about it and
with the end goal in mind of fixing it
to reconcile please pause their passage
Ober - it means to say that you could
actually be relational in
confrontational at the same time yes in
fact that's one part of being relational
to be able to talk freely
be honest be open and express to you
what I feel in what I think and yet also
being open to what you think and what
you feel about me and amidst that we're
able to fix this reconcile and still
walk together can I be honest with you
then I'm having a little nervous now I
can if I could be honest to you I think
both guys look great right I am
absolutely certain no agenda
now going back to the topic if we are we
are to promote being a relational leader
what are some of the tips that you could
give our victory group leaders in light
of becoming more relational I'm sure all
of them are making some attempts out
there and how they could become better
leaders and this is one of those factors
so how could you encourage them to
become one so I want to make it simple
I'm sure there are a lot of things you
can say about how to be a relational
leader but if I would simplify it it's
two things love and learn mm-hmm first
it's love love God if we love God we
would forgive if we would if we love God
we will humble ourselves if we would it
will of God we would be patient and I
love people value people because the
more you value people the more you treat
them right so that's the first love
second is learn because even us we love
our spouse's we love our kids and at our
times that what we communicate to them
is something different
that's why we have to go to even as
pastors do couples retreats
parenting seminars so that we could
learn some skills to be able to
communicate our kids in our spouse that
we love them so it's the same way I
might value you and I might love you but
if I don't have the skills to be able to
communicate and convey that love to you
you will never appreciate it and you
will never know and you will never feel
like I am a relational leader so love
love God love people and learn learn
interpersonal skills there's a lot to
learn and I am certainly not very good
at so far away you've said awhile ago
known to be a relational either as I
said not sure about that I'm as much on
this journey as you and everybody else
to becoming the relational leader that
Jesus was now talking about learning as
you've mentioned what are some of the
you've alluded to some of them already
but what are some of the skills that you
think are vital for us to learn so that
we could become again one major is
communications communication okay and we
were married people we know that
communication is not easy right even
though the person you love the most the
person you're closest with the person
who who knows you best
and the person whom you know Beth
there's still miscommunication through
so communication skills I always would
say if you're gonna confront someone
don't do it to text oh yeah because when
you text then you forget to put smiley
and they get offended why because they
put pone
they put a facial expression and before
you know it the relational connection
that you built for months or years as
you get cut off just like that so
communication skills is big
the ability to handle an offense the
ability to work with different
personalities all those are very
important interpersonal skills that we
can all learn right
how important is listening in this
entire process listening is very
important because it's part of
communication through a lot of
miscommunication happens when you don't
listen and and again I am as guilty as
anyone else in leadership position can
be because sometimes when people start
telling things or start giving out
opinions or giving out suggestions my
mind's racing right away to how I'm
going to answer that and I have to
constantly catch myself and say I have
to listen why again I go back because
this person is valuable to God because
this person's opinion is valuable so I
have to rein in what I think and what I
feel and I have to give my undivided
attention and listen to what he says
thank you so much for that Pastor
Gilbert any final thoughts for those who
might be feeling that you know it's hard
for me to learn right now or maybe my
situation it doesn't look like there's a
way for me to resolve this kind of
conflict any thoughts for them yes I
really still believe that we can all be
relational leaders Jesus is the example
and being more christ-like makes you
become a better relation a leader so
don't just try to be relational right
now I just try to be outgoing strive to
be like Christ and a more christ-like
you become the more effective of a
relational leader you become totally by
the grace of God totally by the power of
the Holy Spirit just continue to push
through him and I believe all of us can
become more christ-like thank you so
much from that and it's always great to
hear from you after Gilbert thank you
you're always a blessing thank you what
we could do now for the sake of our
viewers is if we could take some time to
pray for them I would like to ask you if
you could pray for them some of them are
striving and desiring to become better
leaders and this could be like a more of
a setback for them it's hard for them to
become relational if you could just
speak a word of blessing towards them
right now and for those conflicts that
may need to be resolved if you could
address them I would love to could we
pray yes lord thank you that you are a
relational God
it took time to get out of your throne
come here on earth and become like one
of us so that you can connect to us and
you can save us and redeem us Lord I
pray for all our Victor group leaders
all our infants and everyone else would
hear this podcast I pray Lord that you'd
give us the grace to pursue you we're
not pursuing relational leadership we're
pursuing you give us the grace to be
more like you give us the grace to see
every person we meet and every person we
lead in the same way that you see them a
person who is immeasurably valuable to
God Lord thank you that by your grace
nothing is impossible so here we are
Lord make us the kind of leaders that
you desire and that you designed us to
be speak a blessing to each one of them
in Jesus name Amen amen amen
Pastor Gilbert thank you once again for
being a part of today's podcast and I
just want to say this that when I grow
up I want to become just like you thank
you to our viewers thank you again I'm
TJ nuna and this is victory leadership
podcast
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