Martyrs ending finally SOLVED!!! | Deep analysis and multiple theories. 💀

Summary

The video script delves into the psychological horror film 'Martyrs,' discussing its disturbing nature and the film's ability to provoke existential fear. It contrasts 'Martyrs' with other horror films like 'The Human Centipede' and 'A Serbian Film,' which are often deemed gross or shocking but lack the psychological depth. The script explores various theories about the movie's ending, suggesting that the true horror lies in the characters' suffering and the film's unresolved narrative, leaving viewers with a sense of unease and a profound existential crisis.

Takeaways

• 🎬 The video discusses the difficulty of finding genuinely scary and disturbing movies, often being disappointed by films hyped as 'the most disturbing thing you'll ever see'.
• 🔍 The script mentions that 'Cannibal Holocaust' was the first found footage horror movie, leading to its director's arrest due to its convincing realism.
• 🤢 It argues that 'The Human Centipede' and 'A Serbian Film' are often cited as disturbing but are more gross-out or parody than genuinely unsettling.
• 🧠 The importance of psychological horror over visceral gore in creating a truly disturbing film is highlighted, with 'Martyrs' being an example that pushes the limits of suffering.
• 🎭 The script suggests that the key to a disturbing movie is making it unpleasant to watch, with 'Martyrs' being a film that, despite its intensity, only needs to be seen once.
• 👻 The theory that 'Martyrs' could be interpreted in various ways, including the possibility that the entire film is a hallucination or that the cult is actually fighting supernatural forces, is explored.
• 🔮 The idea that the hallucinations experienced in 'Martyrs' might be real and part of a curse related to forbidden knowledge of the afterlife is presented.
• 🤔 The script questions the definition of a 'martyr' within the context of the film, suggesting that perhaps only one character truly fits the bill.
• 💡 It proposes that the cult in 'Martyrs' might be demon hunters or have a purpose beyond what is revealed, using torture to extract information from those infected by supernatural forces.
• 🔚 The ending of 'Martyrs' is noted for its abruptness, leaving many questions unanswered and suggesting multiple possible interpretations of the cult's motives and the consequences of their actions.

Q & A

What is the speaker's opinion on movies that are labeled as 'disturbing'?

The speaker believes that very few movies are genuinely scary and even fewer are disturbing or uncomfortable to watch every time. They often find that movies hyped as 'the most disturbing thing you'll ever see' fail to live up to that reputation.

What was the public's reaction to 'Cannibal Holocaust' when it was released?

When 'Cannibal Holocaust' was released, many people thought it was real because of its convincing found footage style and the director's marketing strategy, which included the actors not making public appearances until after the movie's release.

Why does the speaker consider 'The Human Centipede' not disturbing?

The speaker views 'The Human Centipede' as a gross-out horror movie with campy acting and strange characters, which is not meant to be taken seriously, and thus not disturbing.

What aspect of 'A Serbian Film' makes the speaker unable to take it seriously?

The speaker finds 'A Serbian Film' too ridiculous with fake characters and unnatural story elements, and lacking the courage to show truly disturbing content, making it feel like a parody rather than a disturbing film.

What does the speaker believe is key to making a movie truly disturbing?

The speaker believes that the key to a disturbing movie is to accentuate existential elements and make the movie unpleasant to watch, rather than focusing solely on visceral gore.

Why does the speaker consider 'Martyrs' the most disturbing film?

The speaker considers 'Martyrs' the most disturbing because it pushes the limits of suffering and psychological torture, making the audience feel hopeless without providing an emotional or narrative resolution.

What is the speaker's interpretation of the ending of 'Martyrs'?

The speaker suggests that what Anna might have said to make Mademoiselle kill herself could be related to seeing heaven and the realization that the only way to get there is through self-sacrifice, thus checking all the required boxes for the character's actions.

What alternative theory does the speaker propose about the hallucinations in 'Martyrs'?

The speaker proposes that the hallucinations might be real manifestations from another dimension, possibly as a consequence of trying to see into the afterlife, and that this could be a form of supernatural punishment.

Why does the speaker think the cult in 'Martyrs' might not be evil?

The speaker suggests that the cult might be demon hunters or ghostbusters, torturing specific people to force the hallucinations to show themselves and provide information on how to close the doors to the afterlife.

What is the speaker's take on the term 'martyr' in the context of the movie?

The speaker questions the use of the term 'martyr' for the characters in the movie, as none of them fit the traditional criteria of a martyr, and proposes that perhaps Mademoiselle is the true martyr in the story.

What unresolved questions does the speaker have about the plot of 'Martyrs'?

The speaker questions why the characters stay in the house after the killings, why Mademoiselle would tell everyone to come to the house if she was going to kill herself, and the true beliefs and objectives of the cult.

Outlines

00:00

🎬 The Illusion of Disturbing Cinema

The speaker begins by discussing the difficulty in finding genuinely scary movies and the even rarer occurrence of films that are disturbing or uncomfortable to watch repeatedly. They express disappointment with movies that are hyped as the most disturbing but fail to live up to that reputation. The speaker then critiques films like 'A Serbian Film' and 'The Human Centipede' for not being as disturbing as they are claimed to be, suggesting that their shock value is more about gross-out humor than true terror. They also touch on the concept of the uncanny valley in relation to excessive gore in films, arguing that it can detract from the horror rather than enhance it. The segment concludes with the assertion that a truly disturbing movie should be unpleasant to watch, and the speaker shares their belief that 'Martyrs' achieves this level of discomfort due to its psychological torture and lack of narrative resolution.

05:01

🔪 The Subversion and Twists of 'Martyrs'

The second paragraph delves into the plot of 'Martyrs,' highlighting its numerous twists and subversions that keep the viewer guessing until the end. The story is described as starting with a young girl named Lucy escaping from a torturous secret society, leading to her life in an orphanage and her subsequent violent actions as an adult. The speaker discusses the film's raw and direct storytelling, the development of its characters, and the natural flow of its plot. However, they also point out some inconsistencies, such as the characters' decisions to stay in a house after a violent incident. The paragraph concludes with the speaker's analysis of the film's ending, suggesting that what the character Anna says to the cult leader could have multiple interpretations, but ultimately leads to a puzzling and thought-provoking conclusion.

10:02

🤔 The Theories and Interpretations of 'Martyrs'

In this paragraph, the speaker explores various theories and interpretations of 'Martyrs,' starting with the idea that the entire story might be happening in the protagonist's head. They discuss the possibility that the characters Lucy and Anna could be the same person, supported by details such as their simultaneous panic attacks and the director's use of similar themes in other films. The speaker also considers the idea that the cult in 'Martyrs' might be demon hunters or ghostbusters, suggesting that their actions are part of a larger, hidden battle against supernatural forces. They propose that the hallucinations experienced by the characters could be real manifestations of these forces, leading to tragic consequences for those who learn too much about the afterlife. The paragraph ends with the speaker questioning the nature of the protagonist and the true identity of the real 'Martyr' in the story.

15:03

💥 The Consequences of Forbidden Knowledge in 'Martyrs'

The speaker continues to unpack the themes of 'Martyrs,' focusing on the idea of forbidden knowledge and its consequences. They liken the film to H.P. Lovecraft's work, where characters often face tragedy after delving into the unknown. The speaker suggests that the process of creating a 'martyr' in the film might be a way to desensitize them to pain, allowing them to see into the afterlife without being overwhelmed by supernatural hallucinations. They propose that knowing about the afterlife might carry a curse, causing those who learn too much to be driven to suicide. The paragraph also explores the possibility that the cult members are not the villains but are instead trying to prevent the spread of dangerous knowledge, possibly by torturing those who have been exposed to it. The speaker concludes by questioning the definition of a martyr within the context of the film and pondering the true nature of the cult's beliefs and goals.

20:05

🏆 The Cult's Beliefs and the True 'Martyr' in 'Martyrs'

In the final paragraph, the speaker theorizes about the cult's beliefs and the identity of the true 'martyr' in 'Martyrs.' They suggest that the cult leader, Mademoiselle, might have been planning to commit suicide all along, believing that her death would absolve the sins of the other cult members and grant her access to the afterlife. The speaker questions why Mademoiselle would gather everyone at the house if she intended to kill herself, proposing that her death might have been part of a prophecy or a fulfillment of a deeper, cult-related purpose. They also consider the possibility that the film's ending was meant to be more conclusive, but the final act was cut short, leaving the story open-ended. The paragraph concludes with the speaker reaffirming that Mademoiselle is the true martyr of the story, as her death carries significant meaning within the context of the cult's beliefs.

Keywords

💡Disturbing

The term 'disturbing' in the context of the video refers to the emotional and psychological discomfort that certain movies can cause due to their graphic or unsettling content. It is a central theme in the video, as the speaker discusses the impact of films like 'A Serbian Film' and 'Cannibal Holocaust' and how they are often labeled as disturbing for various reasons, including their subject matter and the reactions they elicit from audiences.

💡Found Footage

The 'found footage' concept is a genre of film-making that suggests the events in the movie were recorded by characters within the film, often adding a layer of realism. In the script, 'Cannibal Holocaust' is cited as the first found footage horror movie, which contributed to its controversial reception because viewers initially believed the events were real, leading to the director's arrest due to accusations of murder.

💡Uncanny Valley

The 'uncanny valley' is a hypothesis in aesthetics and robotics that describes the discomfort or eeriness felt by humans when they encounter humanoid objects that look and act almost, but not exactly, like real humans. In the video, the concept is used to explain why excessive gore in films can sometimes be perceived as amusing rather than horrifying, as it triggers a similar defense mechanism that protects the viewer from the disturbing content.

💡Gore

Gore refers to the explicit depiction of violence or injury, often involving blood and body parts. The video discusses the fine line filmmakers must walk when presenting gore, as too much can lead to a comedic or absurd effect rather than achieving the intended horror. The speaker uses the term to critique films that fail to effectively convey horror due to an overreliance on graphic imagery.

💡Martyrs

In the context of the video, 'Martyrs' is the name of a film that the speaker considers to be the most disturbing due to its psychological aspects and portrayal of torture. The film 'Martyrs' pushes the boundaries of suffering and existential dread, making it a central point of discussion in the script. The term 'martyr' is also used to explore the film's themes of sacrifice and the consequences of seeking forbidden knowledge.

💡Psychological Torture

Psychological torture is a form of abuse that involves the infliction of mental suffering through manipulation, threats, and other non-physical means. The video discusses how 'Martyrs' uses psychological torture to create a sense of hopelessness and unease, forcing viewers to experience the characters' despair and contributing to the film's reputation as disturbing.

💡Cult

A 'cult' in this video refers to a secret society in the film 'Martyrs' that practices extreme rituals involving torture, with the belief that extreme suffering can lead to visions of the afterlife. The script explores the cult's practices and beliefs, suggesting they may have a more complex or hidden agenda than what is initially presented.

💡Hallucination

Hallucinations, as discussed in the video, are sensory experiences that appear real but are generated by the mind, often as a result of mental illness or extreme trauma. In the context of 'Martyrs', hallucinations are a key plot device, with characters experiencing violent visions that may or may not have a supernatural origin.

💡Subversion

Subversion in the video refers to the act of deliberately undermining or reversing expectations, particularly in the context of storytelling. The script mentions subversion in relation to the film 'Martyrs', highlighting how the movie subverts typical horror tropes and narrative structures to create a unique and unsettling experience.

💡Afterlife

The 'afterlife' is a concept referring to the existence or realm of an individual's consciousness after death. In the video, the afterlife is central to the beliefs of the cult in 'Martyrs', who torture individuals in an attempt to gain insight into what lies beyond death. The concept is also used to explore the existential themes of the film and the potential consequences of seeking such knowledge.

💡Sacrifice

Sacrifice in the video is discussed in the context of self-giving or forgoing something valuable for a greater cause or belief. The script uses the term to analyze the actions of characters in 'Martyrs', particularly in relation to the cult's practices and the film's title, suggesting that the act of sacrifice may have deeper implications within the narrative.

Highlights

The speaker discusses the rarity of genuinely scary and disturbing movies, challenging the reputation of films like 'A Serbian Film' and 'Cannibal Holocaust'.

The impact of 'Cannibal Holocaust' as the first found footage horror movie, leading to the director's arrest due to its convincing realism.

Critique of 'The Human Centipede' as a gross-out horror movie rather than genuinely disturbing.

Analysis of 'A Serbian Film' as a parody with unrealistic elements that prevent full immersion.

The importance of the uncanny valley in the perception of gore and its effect on the audience's reaction to disturbing content.

The definition of a disturbing movie as one that is unpleasant to watch, with a focus on psychological rather than visceral elements.

The psychological impact of 'Martyrs' and its unique approach to the portrayal of suffering and torture.

The lack of a cathartic resolution in 'Martyrs', leaving the audience in a state of despair.

The exploration of the fantasy fulfillment in horror movies and the subversion of expectations in 'Martyrs'.

The raw and immersive storytelling in 'Martyrs', with a focus on the film's pacing and character development.

The puzzling and open-ended conclusion of 'Martyrs', inviting various interpretations and theories.

The potential interpretation of 'Martyrs' as a story of forbidden knowledge and its consequences, drawing parallels to Lovecraftian themes.

The possibility of 'Martyrs' being a story of a single person's hallucinations, suggesting a twist similar to 'High Tension'.

The role of the cult in 'Martyrs' and the speculation about their true motives and beliefs.

The idea that the cult members in 'Martyrs' could be demon hunters, adding a supernatural layer to their actions.

The concept of martyrdom in the context of the film and the debate over who the true martyr is.

The potential religious and supernatural beliefs of the cult, suggesting a deeper meaning to their actions and the ending of 'Martyrs'.

Transcripts

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we have such SES to show you there's

very few movies that I would call

genuinely scary and there's even fewer

still that I would consider disturbing

or uncomfortable to watch every time

I've been told a movie was going to be

the most disturbing thing you'll ever

see or so Extreme as band in 26

countries always end up being

disappointed because they never live up

to that reputation the human centipede a

Serbian film and cannibal Hol

are on every top 10 most disturbing

movies list but I never thought any of

those were disturbing at all Cannibal

Holocaust was the first found footage

horror movie ever so when it came out a

lot of people thought it was real and

this is still true today because

whenever anybody talks about it it's

never about the plot or the characters

it's always about if people really died

in the movie today everybody knows that

found footage is a gimmick but it was so

convincing in 1980 that the director

ended up getting arrested for murder you

see the director was ahead of his time

because not only did he Market it as

real found footage but he had all all of

his actors agreed to not do any public

appearances until after the movie was

out for a while so the only reason

anybody thought it was disturbing in the

first place was because of a genius

gimmic and genius marketing that tricked

everyone into thinking it was real The

Human Centipede is another one that

people call disturbing but it's really

just a gross out horror movie that's not

even supposed to be scary it has campy

acting strange characters and a concept

that's not supposed to be taken

seriously so I have to put it in the

same category as Tusk or ich the killer

I mean how could I think this is

disturbing when people are always

talking about eating

nowadays a Serbian film is another movie

that I can't take seriously because

there's way too many ridiculous scenes

that make it feel like a parody the

characters feel fake the story doesn't

feel natural and it doesn't even have

the balls to actually show us the

disturbing stuff and it's not even shot

in that grainy 8 mm film quality that

would have made it feel more like a real

snuff film so there's a part of me that

can never be fully immersed in the story

because I know it's just a movie that's

trying really hard to be edgy it's kind

of like a movie from a Rick and Morty

parallel universe where everything is

centered around sex so instead of the

usual old special forces guy using his

training to rescue his family their

version of an action movie is an old

porn star that has to come out of

retirement to save his wife and kids and

he has to use his porn star skills to do

it well that's just silly I think it

would have been better with a grittier

appearance because the editing is too

sharp and the cinematography is too

artistic so it kind of feels like

natural-born Killers there's a very thin

line that a filmmaker has to walk when

it comes to showing Gore or things that

people might find disturbing because

when it comes to seeing disturbing

things our brains try to protect us with

this uncanny valley type of fil

now it's not exactly the same but it is

a primitive defense mechanism that makes

excessive Gore more amusing than

horrifying so it kind of looks silly

when there's too much blood or too many

chopped up body parts so the key to a

disturbing movie isn't so much about the

visceral elements as much as it's about

accentuating the existential things of

course this is always going to be a

subjective topic because there's a

spectrum of what everybody can handle

but I think the one thing a disturbing

movie has to be is unpleasant to watch

there's a lot of movies that have

disturbing scenes but because they make

up such a small amount of the overall

movie it's easy easy to see them as

entertaining and not something that will

make you want to turn the movie off or

walk out of the theater now in my

opinion Martyrs is the most disturbing

film you'll ever see but not for the

same reasons that other movies are

called disturbing it's not the blood or

the death or even the woman with the

straight razor the part that everyone

finds uncomfortable is the psychological

side of the torture Martyrs pushes the

limits of suffering in a way that's

never been done before because it forces

us to feel hopeless just like the

characters and it never gives us an

emotional or narrative resolution so if

you were hoping to have some cathar

rewarding experience at the end you're

going to be terribly disappointed with

this one because nobody in the story

gets to win part of why we like horror

movies so much is the fantasy

fulfillment that comes with seeing

people survive because we tell ourselves

that if we were in a similar situation

we would survive too I really love this

movie because of how immersive and raw

it feels but because the entire

experience is pretty unpleasant it's the

type of movie that you only really need

to see once although there's some

unavoidable similarities to other films

Martyrs is one of the few that feels

fresh and original but it's also the

type of idea that can never become a

franchise well it could if someone like

me got to write it because I think I

could easily turn this into a Trilogy

and flesh out some of the details and

the ambiguous Parts about the cult and

what they're actually trying to do but

for now this is just a film festival

type of movie that'll never have a wi

fan base because it'll only appeal to

the most hardcore horror fans so what is

Martyr about the film opens with a young

girl named Lucy running away from a

warehouse where she was being tortured

by a secret society that belongs in a

Hellraiser movie she ends up in an

orphanage where she meets Anna and even

though she tries to make her feel safe

she can't protect her from the Demonic

woman that torments her at night and

then in one of the best setups for a

subversion it cuts to a family having

breakfast before a grownup Lucy busts in

and kills everyone with a shotgun this

scene is a great representation of

exactly why this movie is so special

because every scene is raw and straight

to the point so there's never a single

moment of wasted time in the story this

is also a perfect subversion of

expectations a happy family being gunned

down with no build up or explanation is

the most unexpected thing that could

have happened but before we even have

time to process what happened the story

takes yet another unexpected turn when

the Demonic woman that haunted Lucy as a

kid shows up and starts beating her and

cutting her with a razor she calls Anna

to come and help her and this is when we

learned why she killed his family Lucy

is convinced that these people are the

ones that tortured her as a kid but you

get the feeling that this isn't the

first family she's killed this movie is

full of so many twists and subversions

that you really don't know what the

story is about until near the end so the

first time you see the woman you don't

know if this is a supernatural horror

movie and ghosts and demons are going to

be part of the story The Woman ends up

being a hallucination so everything we

saw her doing to Lucy she was actually

doing to herself the film making up to

this point has been Flawless the

characters are perfectly developed the

pacing and action are immersive and the

plot details feel natural and easy to

understand the only real problem I have

with the plot is I can't figure out why

they stayed in the house so long after

everyone was dead they don't have any

connection to these people and nobody

even knows who they are so why are they

trying to clean up and hide the bodies

like they live there it gets even more

confusing when Anna stays in the house

overnight after Lucy kills herself but I

didn't notice this until I was making

the video so it's easy for me to see the

minor flaws when I have time to analyze

it but the pacing is so smooth that you

can't help but be fully immersed in

every scene you get the feeling that

Anna didn't really believe this family

tortured Lucy so when she finds the

secret door that leads to the basement

you kind of forget about how stupid it

is for her to still be there but if

staying in the house wasn't dumb enough

she does probably the dumbest thing that

I've ever seen in a horror movie I don't

know what she was expecting to find or

why she needs to do this but instead of

running away from this house immediately

after seeing these pictures she decides

to go down deep her into a locked sub

basement where she finds a woman that's

chained to the wall now a normal person

would have left as soon as their friend

died and even if they did find a

basement there's no way anyone would

have gone down two levels to explore it

it's kind of messed up that I've seen so

many horror movies that if I ever found

someone chained up like this I would

probably think they were dangerous it's

like maybe she's a werewolf or a demon

or maybe she has some sort of power like

Cindy from the boys anyway she decides

to do something even dumber than staying

in the house and going into the basement

when she unchains the woman and stays in

the house for a second night night in a

row there's no way anyone would stay in

this house with all these dead bodies in

a secret torture lab in the basement

especially because she's not trapped or

injured and she even has a working car

so there's really only one reason why

she's still here because the movie has

to happen the clerics from equilibrium

show up do a little gunata and then they

drag Anna into the basement and this is

when things really start to get

uncomfortable the leader of this secret

society shows up and gives Anna the

exposition dump official torture

orientation and then they chain her up

in the basement and start slowly turning

her into a martyr this is the same group

that tortured Lucy as a kid and the

reason they did it is because they think

with enough pain a person can see into

the Afterlife the next 15 minutes are

basically Anna getting tortured day

after day until she finally sees

something and tells M moiselle the

entire cult shows up so they can hear

what she said but instead of telling

them mm moiselle goes into the bathroom

and herself this is one of the most

puzzling endings in cinematic history

and because we have so little

information about the organization or

any of the characters it's almost

impossible to figure out what Anna said

almost there's really only a few

possible things that she could have said

and if we simply reverse engineer the

final scene we can separate all the

individual boxes that would need to be

checked whatever Anna said has to be

something that Melle believes has to

make her want to kill herself has to be

something that she doesn't want to tell

anyone else and her final words keep

doubting have to have a deeper meaning

whenever I see people talk about this

ending they always approach it from the

same boring unoriginal perspective and

they never think that maybe they're

looking at this movie the wrong way

everyone only considers that Anna could

have said one of five things but none of

the those give us a satisfying answer of

course she could have said she didn't

see anything or she could have said she

wasn't going to say if she saw something

or not but neither of those check any of

the boxes she could have also said she

saw hell or something she can't explain

but there's no reason why these would

make Melle want to kill herself or why

she would keep it a secret now if I had

to pick a completely normal explanation

that everyone would agree with I would

say that heaven makes the most sense

Heaven is definitely something she would

believe and is obvious why she would

kill herself and it easily checks all

the boxes with a little explanation the

fear of death is the cult's main

motivation it's the reason why they're a

part of this it's the reason why they're

obsessed with the afterlife but it's

also the reason mzelle didn't tell

anyone Anna told her that she saw heaven

but the only way you can get in is if

you sacrifice something important

suicide is the most obvious way to

self-sacrifice but it's also proving

that she's no longer afraid of dying

she's mocking everyone with keep

doubting because she knows none of them

would be willing to do it she knows that

even if every one of them can see the

Afterlife with their own eyes they still

wouldn't be willing to kill themselves

because they feared death so much just

think about this this what do they plan

to do after they see the afterlife what

do they think this is going to

accomplish if they believe in the

afterlife then they believe they'll get

to see it someday so the only reason

they would spend this much time and

effort on this is if they're trying to

eliminate their fear of death now that

makes sense right I mean it checks all

the boxes it gives a reasonable

explanation to the ending and for being

honest that 60-second theory was

probably one of the best you've ever

heard about the ending of this movie and

even though that's a completely

acceptable explanation something about

it just doesn't feel right this woman

kidnapped killed and tortur people for

almost 20 years and instead of getting

punished for it she gets to cheat Cod

her way into heaven I think this movie

deserves something better something that

actually fits the tone of the story

something that's a little bit more

[Music]

complicated when it comes to theories

it's always easier to say that

everything was all a dream or all in

somebody's head but I've never seen

anyone say the opposite and claim that

an imaginary thing was actually real at

first I thought this would be more

difficult to do but when I started to

look for details to support this idea

the first thing I noticed was how easy

it would be to say that it was all in

her head now I know everyone hates this

as an explanation so if you wanted to

skip this part I completely understand

but I had to explore this idea so I can

make the opposite claim I don't really

believe it was all in her head but

there's a lot of details that could lead

you to that conclusion if you really

wanted it to I know the director

probably didn't put much thought into

this scene because he didn't think

anyone would question it but after Lucy

kills the family she calls Anna on a pay

phone and my question is how did Anna

know Lucy was going to call her and how

did Lucy know Anna would be waiting by

the pay phone this takes place in 1986

back when almost nobody had a cell phone

or a pager so how did they even

coordinate this at first I thought it

might be something they do all the time

but Anna has this old ass picture from

when they were kids and she acts like

she hasn't talked to her since then I

figured it was just an easy way to move

the story along and the director didn't

know another way for them to meet up

again but for me it opened the idea that

maybe both of these girls are the same

person the last time we saw both of them

was 15 years ago in the orphanage but

when we get reintroduced to Anna right

before Lucy calls her she's having a

panic attack just like Lucy

is it makes sense for Lucy to be acting

this way because she just killed four

people and she's severely mentally ill

but there's no reason why Anna would be

sitting in a parking lot eating a

sandwich and also having a panic attack

too as I said before this pay phone

scene doesn't really makes sense but if

you think of Anna and Lucy as being the

same person it would explain why they're

having the same reaction at the the same

time in very different circumstances and

the more I thought about it the more it

started to make sense because there was

another extreme French horror movie that

came out a few years before this caught

High attention and I'm sorry I got to

spoil the twist but in the end we find

out there never was a truck driver

killing people and it was really just

the girl killing everyone in imagining

that she was being chased by the trucker

the reason she started killing people

was a little vague but it's heavily

implied that she was in love with her

friend and not being able to have her is

what made her snap martyr has a similar

subplot too because Anna's in love with

Lucy but Lucy doesn't feel the same way

both movies play with sexual repression

mental illness and violent

hallucinations so because they're both

so thematically similar it's easy to

think that they could both share a

similar twist the biggest issue I have

with this idea is trying to explain the

cult the minute they show up it kills

the idea that Lucy is fake because it

would be an impossible coincidence for

Anna to have made up the cult and the

torture as part of Lucy's backstory and

then they end up being real exactly like

she imagined them so this idea doesn't

actually work when you start to ask more

questions but I just wanted to share

some of the the interesting details I

noticed because they could change your

interpretation of the

movie everyone's interpretation of

Lucy's Hallucination is that it's a

manifestation of her survivor's guilt

but something mm moiselle said directly

contradicts that theory the mental

trauma starts to break them and that

small easily open crack makes them see

things that don't exist in our world did

she see anything not even one monster

did she see things that wanted to

she said that everyone they torture

hallucinates something violent that

means Lucy's experience isn't unique and

her hallucinations can't be survivors

guilt something about the way they

torture people is causing everyone to

have violent hallucinations but for a

group that's actively trying to see into

another dimension they never consider

that what these girls are seeing might

actually be real just think about this

if an afterlife exists then a god

probably exists too and because seeing

into the Afterlife is pretty similar to

cheating death there would definitely

have to be consequences for opening

Pandora's Box anyone who SE sees into

the Afterlife or learns what happens

after death will be cursed with a

violent hallucination that will

eventually make him commit suicide if

you really think about the process of

creating a martyr is actually the

process of giving them armor they

systematically desensitize the Martyr by

making them accustomed to pain so when

they look into the Afterlife they can't

be hurt by the hallucinations but what

they didn't account for was the

possibility that even knowing what the

Martyr sees has the same consequences as

seeing it for themselves this movie is

very love crafty and at its core because

the central theme in all of his stories

is the consequences of forbidden

knowledge people going places they

shouldn't go seeing things they

shouldn't see and learning things they

shouldn't learn always ends in tragedy I

think trying to see until the afterlife

definitely meets the criteria and

because the afterlife is Supernatural it

only makes sense that the hallucinations

will be real when we first see the

scarred woman we don't know she's a

hallucination yet but after we see that

Lucy was doing everything to herself we

have to ask how could she cut her back

like this now I know a straight razor is

sharp but even if she was really

flexible it would would be very

difficult to apply enough pressure to

cut this part of her back this deep I

think the ghost woman really killed Lucy

and the only reason we didn't see her do

it is because we're seeing it happen

from Anna's perspective we only see her

when no one else is around so when

Anna's there and she watches Lucy's

throat be cut it looks like she's doing

it to herself in the final scene where

mzelle is alone in the bathroom we're

not seeing it from her perspective

because she's no longer the protagonist

the real protagonist of this scene is

her servant ATN from his perspective he

wouldn't be able to see whatever's

making her do it so just like with Anna

we can't see it either typically the

first character in a horror movie is

either the protagonist or a random

person that gets killed before the

credits but this opening scene goes

against that formula because Lucy

doesn't fit into either category for the

first 20 minutes she's kind of the

protagonist but then she ends up being a

temporary antagonist and then the focus

switches over to Anna but it's the same

situation with her because she's not

even the main character by the end

because the focus ends up switching over

to M moiselle and then finally to ATM I

would argue there never really was a

real protagonist because the story is

centered around a situation more than a

specific character and that allows the

story to be told from several different

perspectives when Anna told Melle what

she saw she passed the curse to her so

even though she didn't see the afterlife

anyone who knows what happens after

death has to be punished in the same way

she couldn't tell anyone what she heard

or else they would have to suffer the

same fate so she decided to take her

secret to the Grave so even if she could

handle the hallucinations and she had

the willpower to never tell anyone

there's a house full of people desperate

to know what she heard and are obviously

okay with using torture to get

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it I know it's hard to believe that a

group of people who kidnap and torture

people to death could be the good guys

but there's a few things that say this

might just be the case we don't know

what these people are really trying to

accomplish and we don't know what they

believe in but because they put so much

money time and effort into this

operation we know they have to believe

in something mm moiselle talks about

Jesus God and sin and she even believes

in the afterlife but the God she

worships can't be the Christian God

right why would she believe in chrisan

chis rewards for self-sacrifice but not

in Christian punishments for torturing

and killing people trying to see into

the Afterlife was never a convincing

objective to me and the one thing that

proves they're doing something other

than what they're telling us is the fact

that when we first see them they have

guns and tactical training the only

reason they came to the house was

because Anna left the phone off the hook

so why would they show up with their

guns out unless they were expecting

something dangerous to be there they

obviously know about the hallucinations

so when we look at the guns and the

tactical response to a phone that was

left off the hook we can assume that

they know the hallucinations are real

judging by the way they dress and the

way the organization is structured it

makes more sense for them to be demon

hunters or Ghostbusters than it does for

them to be doing whatever [ __ ]

they're telling us what if they're

torturing specific people because

they're potentially infected with one of

the hallucinations and the torture is

designed to force it to show itself and

give them information on how to close

the doors that allow them to cross over

into our world again just think about

why they would need guns for this

situation and if we take this path this

could even explain some of the questions

about Lucy I said in the beginning that

it didn't seem like this was the first

family she's killed and when you look at

the way she dresses and the Tactical gun

control she looks exactly like the other

cult members did when they showed up

she's definitely done this before

because she's way too comfortable with

killing innocent people you would only

wear all black if you were going to

commit a crime at night so the only

reason Lucy would be wearing all black

to commit a crime early in the morning

is because this is how the cult members

dress every day it makes sense for her

to be a former member of the cult but

they didn't know she was one of the

girls they tortured before Lucy was

tortured 15 years before she killed his

family and we're supposed to believe

that a 10-year-old kid locked in a dark

dirty ass Warehouse was able to

recognize the people who did it from a

small picture in the newspaper 15 years

later I think the reason she was able to

find the family is because the

hallucination convinced her that this

family was responsible for what happened

but the real reason she wanted to go

there is so she could free the woman in

the basement just think about this the

only reason Anna found the door to the

basement is because the hammer fell over

but unless there was an earthquake or

something there's no possible way this

could have fallen over well unless

something we can't see knocked it over

because it wanted Anna to find the door

to the basement

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what is a martyr a martyr is a person

who dies suffers or sacrifices something

important because of a principle or a

deeply held belief so the question is

how can Anna be a martyr she didn't

volunteer to be a part of this and she

doesn't believe in whatever these people

believe in so she doesn't meet the

criteria on any level as a matter of

fact none of the other potential Martyrs

die for a belief either and Melle even

points out that none of them believed in

God she didn't believe in God now this

could just be a semantic issue and

Martyr is just with chose to call them

but if the technical definition is the

same then the only person that meets the

criteria to be a martyr is M moiselle

the ending was so effective because it

cut out the entire third act there was

never a final showdown or a resolution

to the story so there should have at

least been 10 to 15 more minutes of

movie we never got a resolution we never

got to see everyone's reaction to what

she did and we don't even have any clue

what happens next in the story literally

anything could have happened and because

we don't know what they believe or what

they're really trying to accomplish we

can't say if her death was a good or a

bad bad thing I know everyone wants to

know what she could have heard that

would have made her kill herself but the

bigger question is why didn't she tell

anyone what she heard and I'll take it a

step further why did she tell everyone

to come to the house if she was just

going to kill herself when they got

there she obviously knew she was going

to do it before she went into the

bathroom so the only reason she would

have waited until everyone got there is

if everyone was already expecting it to

happen maybe Anna didn't actually say

anything important and madmoizelle was

going to kill herself no matter what so

when everyone heard the gunshot it meant

a prophecy was fulfilled or something

beneficial happened mm moiselle talks

about Jesus and how Martyrs carry the

sins of others so it's not hard to

believe that she would think killing

herself would take away the sins of the

other cult members and she would gain

access to the afterlife if we're all

being honest every religion has several

ridiculous beliefs if you look at them

objectively and Cults have even more

extreme idea so it's not a stretch to

think that these people would believe

something like this so if you can accept

that her death could have had a deeper

meaning to the cult and it wasn't

spontaneous then the only thing that

makes sense is if mm moiselle is the

Martyr

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yeah