Mahavatar Babaji & Bodiless Yogis | Sadhguru
Summary
TLDRIn this thought-provoking discussion, Sadhguru explores the concept of time, the power of imagination, and the mystical abilities of yogis. He introduces the idea of Nirmanakayas, spiritual beings who can recreate their bodies at will, transcending the limitations of time as we understand it. Sadhguru emphasizes that time is a relative experience, varying based on perception and energy, and cautions against indulging in unchecked imagination. He compares the spiritual perspective on time with modern science's fuzzy logic, suggesting that both seek to explain truths beyond conventional understanding.
Takeaways
- 😀 Nirmanakayas are spiritual beings who can recreate their physical bodies when needed, and Gautama Buddha is believed to be one of them.
- 😀 Time perception is relative and varies greatly between different creatures, from humans to insects, with each experiencing time differently based on their lifespan.
- 😀 Once transcending the physical body, time loses its significance and becomes an irrelevant concept to spiritual beings.
- 😀 A yogi's intense spiritual experience can distort the perception of time, making an hour feel like a minute, and vice versa.
- 😀 The experience of time is subjective: on happy days, 24 hours can pass like moments, while on unhappy days, the same time can feel like a year.
- 😀 Time for the physical body is calculated differently depending on its age and species, indicating that time is not universally fixed.
- 😀 The idea of time being relative extends beyond human understanding, suggesting that experiences of time can vary significantly across different states of existence.
- 😀 Fuzzy logic in modern science reflects the attempt to explain phenomena that don't fit traditional logical frameworks, although it essentially means illogical concepts.
- 😀 Spiritual beings with heightened intensity or energies experience time at an accelerated rate, with a year feeling like a mere moment to them.
- 😀 The more one lives with spiritual intensity, the faster time seems to pass, highlighting the relationship between energy and time perception.
Q & A
What is a Nirmanakaya, and how does it relate to the concept of body recreation?
-A Nirmanakaya is an advanced yogi or spiritual being who has the ability to retain the subtle essence of their body after transcending physical limitations. Such beings can recreate their physical bodies at will, sometimes centuries after they initially left them. This concept is linked to the ability to manifest a youthful, ideal form whenever necessary, as seen in figures like Gautama the Buddha.
How does Sadhguru explain the relativity of time in the context of spiritual experience?
-Sadhguru explains that time is a relative experience, varying depending on one’s state of being. For instance, time seems to pass faster when a person is happy or engaged, but it can feel much slower when they are unhappy or distressed. As one’s spiritual intensity increases, time seems to pass more quickly. In the realm of Nirmanakayas, the concept of time becomes even more fluid, with beings perceiving hundreds of years as just a moment.
What does Sadhguru say about the popular stories surrounding Babaji?
-Sadhguru cautions against becoming too obsessed with the legend of Babaji, particularly because it has been widely speculated and commercialized, often leading to distortions. He refrains from discussing Babaji in depth, as such stories can trigger hallucinatory experiences in people who lack control over their imagination. Sadhguru emphasizes the importance of not relying on such myths without a direct experiential understanding.
Why does Sadhguru warn against discussing topics that are not part of people’s direct experience?
-Sadhguru warns against discussing spiritual topics that are not directly experienced by people because it often leads to confusion and hallucinations. He explains that people, especially those with less mental discipline, may start seeing divine figures or angels, not because they are actually experiencing them, but because they lack control over their imagination.
How does Sadhguru describe the experience of time for different life forms?
-Sadhguru highlights the varying experiences of time among different life forms. For example, one human year is equivalent to about fifteen years in a dog’s life. An insect may experience one human day as fifty years. He emphasizes that time is not a universal constant and that different creatures experience it differently based on their unique life cycles and perspectives.
What does Sadhguru mean by saying time is relative, and how does this relate to human emotional states?
-Sadhguru suggests that time is a relative experience rather than an objective measure. The way we perceive time depends largely on our emotional states. When we are happy or engaged, time seems to fly by, but when we are unhappy or bored, time feels much slower. This relativity of time becomes more pronounced when one engages in deep spiritual practices, where time can seem to vanish entirely.
How does Sadhguru explain the concept of time once the physical body is transcended?
-Sadhguru explains that once the physical body is transcended, time no longer holds any significance. He suggests that for beings like Nirmanakayas, what might seem like hundreds of years to humans is simply a brief moment. These beings are not bound by linear time, and their experience of time is drastically different from that of ordinary human beings.
What is Sadhguru’s view on modern science’s approach to 'fuzzy logic'?
-Sadhguru humorously critiques modern science's adoption of 'fuzzy logic,' which he describes as a way to explain things that do not conform to strict logical reasoning. He suggests that scientists are using terms like 'fuzzy logic' to avoid admitting that they are becoming illogical. Sadhguru parallels this with spiritual experiences that cannot be neatly explained by logic, emphasizing that some phenomena are beyond rational explanation.
Why does Sadhguru believe it is difficult to logically explain spiritual experiences?
-Sadhguru believes that spiritual experiences transcend the limitations of logical reasoning. When one enters a state beyond the physical and mental constraints, the usual rules of logic no longer apply. He points out that trying to logically explain these experiences often leads to nonsensical conclusions, which is why he warns against over-intellectualizing spiritual phenomena.
What does Sadhguru mean when he says, 'once you have dropped your physical body, time is not an issue'?
-Sadhguru suggests that once a being transcends their physical body, they are no longer bound by the constraints of time as humans understand it. The experience of time becomes irrelevant because such beings are not confined to the linear progression of moments. Their perception of time becomes so fluid that what seems like centuries to humans is experienced as just a moment by them.
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