No Tax on Social Security Income? The Truth About Trump's Plan and What It Means for You

Erin Talks Money
25 Nov 202410:59

Summary

TLDRThis video delves into the controversial issue of taxing Social Security benefits, a practice that began in 1984. It explains how, due to inflation not being accounted for, nearly half of all Social Security recipients are now subject to taxes on their benefits, a situation not originally intended. The video discusses arguments for and against this taxation, from fairness for retirees to the program's financial sustainability. It also touches on potential reforms, including Trump's proposal to eliminate these taxes, and considers the broader implications for both seniors and the future of Social Security.

Takeaways

  • 😀 Nearly half of all Social Security recipients now pay taxes on their benefits, a significant increase since 1984.
  • 😀 Social Security taxation started in 1984 and was adjusted only once in 1993, leading to outdated income thresholds.
  • 😀 Single filers pay taxes on up to 50% of Social Security benefits with incomes between $25,000 and $34,000, and up to 85% for incomes over $34,000.
  • 😀 Married couples filing jointly face similar taxation, with benefits taxed at 50% for incomes between $32,000 and $44,000, and 85% for incomes over $44,000.
  • 😀 These thresholds were not adjusted for inflation since their creation, meaning they now apply to many more recipients than originally intended.
  • 😀 If adjusted for inflation, the thresholds would be much higher, with single filers potentially paying taxes on benefits at incomes over $81,000.
  • 😀 The lack of inflation adjustments is seen as a political decision to increase tax revenues by stealth, gradually including more people.
  • 😀 In 1983, only 10% of Social Security recipients owed federal taxes on their benefits; today, that figure has increased to about 50%.
  • 😀 A key debate revolves around whether Social Security benefits should be taxed at all, with some arguing that it’s double taxation on money already paid into the system.
  • 😀 The argument for taxing Social Security benefits centers on revenue generation, as the program faces a projected shortfall by 2035, potentially reducing payouts to 75% of scheduled benefits.
  • 😀 Proposals to eliminate taxes on Social Security benefits would reduce revenues by $1.5 trillion over the next decade, accelerating the insolvency of the program by one year.

Q & A

  • What percentage of Social Security recipients pay taxes on their benefits?

    -Nearly 50% of Social Security recipients now pay taxes on their benefits, a significant increase from about 10% when the tax was first introduced in 1984.

  • How much of Social Security benefits can be taxed?

    -Up to 85% of Social Security benefits can be taxed, depending on the recipient's income. Single filers with incomes above $34,000 and married couples with incomes over $44,000 are subject to this tax.

  • Why haven't the income thresholds for Social Security taxation been adjusted for inflation?

    -The income thresholds for taxing Social Security benefits haven't been adjusted for inflation since they were set in 1983. This was likely a political compromise, resulting in 'bracket creep' that brings more people into the tax range as incomes rise over time.

  • What would the income thresholds look like if they had been adjusted for inflation?

    -If the income thresholds for Social Security taxation had been adjusted for inflation, single filers would be taxed on benefits with incomes between $81,000 and $118,000, and married couples would be taxed on incomes between $103,000 and $142,000.

  • What is the main argument against taxing Social Security benefits?

    -The main argument against taxing Social Security benefits is that seniors should not be taxed on the benefits they have already paid into through their working years. Adding taxes to these benefits can worsen the financial difficulties for retirees, especially those on fixed incomes.

  • How does taxing Social Security benefits affect seniors who continue working?

    -For seniors who continue to work while receiving Social Security benefits, the taxation can be seen as unfair. They pay into the system through their earnings but are also taxed on the benefits they receive, creating a potential double taxation scenario.

  • What is the argument in favor of taxing Social Security benefits?

    -The argument in favor of taxing Social Security benefits is that the program faces a projected shortfall by 2035. Taxing benefits generates revenue that can help sustain the program, preventing deeper cuts to Social Security payments in the future.

  • How would eliminating taxes on Social Security benefits affect the program's funding?

    -Eliminating taxes on Social Security benefits could reduce revenue by $1.5 trillion over the next decade. While this would provide relief to retirees, it could accelerate the program's insolvency by one year, worsening the funding shortfall.

  • How can having different types of retirement accounts affect Social Security taxation?

    -Having different types of retirement accounts, like a Roth 401(k) alongside traditional accounts, can help reduce the impact of Social Security taxation. Roth accounts do not require tax payments on withdrawals, which can help reduce a retiree’s taxable income and lower the tax burden on Social Security benefits.

  • What is the primary goal of the Social Security program?

    -The primary goal of the Social Security program is to provide financial support to retirees, especially those with limited income, and to ensure that seniors can retire with dignity. It is designed as a progressive system to provide more substantial benefits to lower-income workers.

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