FINALLY Piers Morgan Says Israel’s War Has Gone Too Far

Novara Media
18 Jan 202408:43

Summary

TLDRThe video script discusses the conflict in Gaza, stating that many Western politicians and journalists have gone quiet on alleged Israeli atrocities despite a Palestinian death toll nearing 24,000. It argues this silence allows Israel to continue disproportionate bombing and destruction in Gaza, with no viable plan for peace. The host credits Piers Morgan for condemning Israel's actions, but questions why he and others didn't speak out sooner, given the predictable devastation. The host urges journalists to directly challenge Israeli apartheid instead of avoiding the topic.

Takeaways

  • 😡 The majority of Western politicians and journalists have remained silent on the high Palestinian death toll and potential genocide in Gaza after Israel's attack on Oct 7.
  • 😠 24,000 Palestinians have been killed in Gaza in the last 100 days of war with Israel, which is testing the limits of proportionality according to Piers Morgan.
  • 😥 Israel has dropped 30,000 bombs on Gaza, 8 times more than the US used in 6 years of war on Iraq, causing immense destruction.
  • 😞 85% of Gaza's population has been displaced and 70% of homes damaged in the bombardment, with only 8 out of 36 hospitals functioning.
  • 👎 Hamas continues to oppress Gazans and use them as human shields, but Israel's actions seem unlikely to eradicate them and may only increase radicalization.
  • 😕 Mainstream media in the UK seem more focused on irrelevant issues like the royal family than challenging Israeli apartheid and genocide.
  • 👍 Piers Morgan has given credit to Palestine advocates and started questioning if Israel's actions can be justified, after initially defending them.
  • ❓ Major questions remain about Israel's long-term plan for Gaza beyond continued occupation and destruction.
  • 😢 Israel has failed to learn from the mistakes of disproportionate civilian bombing in WWII, violating international law.
  • 😥 Politicians and journalists should speak out against Israeli actions in Gaza instead of avoiding the issue as the death toll continues to rise daily.

Q & A

  • What accusation has South Africa made against Israel at the International Criminal Court?

    -South Africa has accused Israel of genocide at the International Criminal Court.

  • How have Western politicians and journalists generally responded to the situation in Gaza after Hamas's attack on October 7th?

    -The majority of Western politicians and journalists have remained relatively quiet on the atrocities in Gaza, focusing instead on other topics such as internal politics and celebrity news.

  • What has been the Palestinian death toll mentioned in the script?

    -The Palestinian death toll mentioned in the script is 24,000.

  • What stance has Pierce Morgan taken regarding the conflict between Israel and Palestine?

    -Pierce Morgan has focused on the Israel-Palestine conflict, and after 100 days of war, he has stopped defending what he views as indefensible actions by Israel, highlighting the disproportionate civilian death toll in Gaza.

  • How many bombs and shells has Israel dropped on Gaza in 100 days according to the script?

    -Israel has dropped almost 30,000 bombs and shells on Gaza in 100 days.

  • What comparison is made between the current conflict and historical events like Dresden and Hiroshima?

    -The script compares the civilian casualties and the destruction caused by the current conflict to historical events like Dresden and Hiroshima, questioning if the response is proportionate and highlighting the establishment of international law post-World War II to prevent such atrocities.

  • What is the described impact of the conflict on Gaza's infrastructure?

    -The conflict has resulted in the displacement of 85% of Gaza's population, damage or destruction to 70% of homes and half of its buildings, only eight of its 36 hospitals running, and damage to two-thirds of schools and 100 mosques.

  • How has the support for Hamas changed in the West Bank according to the script?

    -Support for Hamas in the West Bank has increased by up to 30 points in the most recent poll.

  • What criticism is leveled against the media's coverage of the conflict?

    -The script criticizes the media for focusing on less significant news and ignoring the severity of the Israel-Palestine conflict, suggesting a reluctance to confront the difficult realities or challenge Israeli policies.

  • What questions does the script suggest Pierce Morgan and others are beginning to ask about Israel's strategy in the conflict?

    -The script suggests that Pierce Morgan and others are beginning to question the proportionality of Israel's response, the effectiveness of trying to eradicate Hamas through military means, and the lack of a clear plan for life after the war for both Gazans and Israelis.

Outlines

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🌍 Western Silence on Gaza Atrocities

This paragraph critiques the silence of Western politicians and media regarding the atrocities in Gaza following Hamas's attack on October 7th. While initial reactions were swift to condemn Hamas, there's a noticeable lack of engagement with the escalating Palestinian death toll, now exceeding 24,000. The media's focus has shifted to less contentious topics, avoiding the difficult conversations around Israel's actions in Gaza. Piers Morgan is highlighted as one of the few public figures still actively engaging with the issue, questioning the proportionality of Israel's response and the effectiveness of international law in preventing such conflicts. The paragraph underscores the lack of a clear plan for peace or resolution from Israel and the international community's seeming indifference to escalating violence and civilian casualties.

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🔎 Scrutinizing Media and Political Silence

The second paragraph delves into the broader media and political landscape's failure to adequately address the crisis in Gaza. It points out Piers Morgan's evolving stance as reflective of a larger shift needed in mainstream media and political discourse. Despite the clear overreach in Israel's response to Hamas, there's a general reluctance to openly criticize Israel, partly due to fear of backlash. The paragraph also discusses the counterproductive nature of Israel's military strategy, which seems to only fuel further resistance and support for Hamas. The narrative suggests a critical moment where silence and inaction by influential figures and institutions contribute to the ongoing tragedy, highlighting the urgent need for a more courageous and balanced discussion on the conflict.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡genocide

The term 'genocide' refers to the deliberate killing of a large number of people from a particular nation or ethnic group with the aim of destroying that nation or group. It is mentioned that while South Africa accuses Israel of genocide at the International Criminal Court, most Western politicians and journalists have remained quiet about the atrocities in Gaza. This highlights the severity of the crisis and killings in Gaza, which some argue may constitute genocide given the huge Palestinian death toll.

💡proportionality

The principle of 'proportionality' in warfare refers to the idea that military action should be proportionate to the threat posed, and excessive force that causes disproportionate civilian deaths should be avoided. Piers Morgan questions whether Israel's actions and the scale of civilian deaths in Gaza can still be considered 'proportionate' after 100 days of bombing.

💡Hamas

Hamas is a Palestinian Sunni militant organization that has governed Gaza since 2007. The video mentions that Hamas attacked Israel on Oct 7th, which prompted the Israeli bombing campaign. Hamas is also described as an 'oppressive misogynistic terror group' that uses human shields.

💡occupation

The video asks what Israel's plan is for Gaza beyond continued war and 'occupation or anarchy', implying that Israel aims to maintain occupation and control over Palestinian territories. The concept of occupation refers to foreign military control over a territory against the will of its people.

💡apartheid

Israeli policies towards Palestinians are described as 'Israeli apartheid', drawing comparisons with South Africa's former system of institutionalized racial segregation and discrimination. It suggests Israel operates a discriminatory, separate system that denies equal rights to Palestinians.

💡mainstream media

The script criticizes mainstream Western media outlets like the BBC, ITV and British newspapers for not giving enough coverage to the Gaza crisis and potential genocide. It's mentioned they instead focus more on other less important topics, downplaying the severity of the situation.

💡civilian casualties

The video emphasizes the huge scale of Palestinian civilian casualties, stating 24,000 Palestinians have been killed in 100 days - far more than recent conflicts. It questions whether the level of death and destruction of homes/infrastructure is justified to 'eradicate Hamas'.

💡War crimes

War crimes refer to grave violations of international law and human rights committed during warfare. While condemning Hamas' attacks, the speaker says both sides likely committed war crimes given the attacks on civilians, implying international law has failed to prevent atrocities as intended.

💡human shields

The video states Hamas uses human shields - referring to the unlawful tactic of forcing civilians to shield combatants or military targets to deter attacks. This demonstrates Hamas also bears responsibility for civilian deaths despite Israel carrying out the bombing.

💡radicalization

It's mentioned that the ongoing death/destruction in Gaza will 'radicalize another Palestinian', meaning more Palestinians will be driven to extreme views and methods. This suggests current tactics are counterproductive as they fuel support for militant groups like Hamas rather than weakening them.

Highlights

Piers Morgan is still focused on Israel Palestine after 100 days of war and has belatedly stopped defending the indefensible.

The civilian death toll in Gaza is testing the upper limits of proportionality.

Israel has dropped almost 30,000 bombs and shells on Gaza in 100 days, eight times more than the US aimed at Iraq in six years of war.

24,000 people killed in 3 months in Gaza raises the question of whether this is still a proportionate response.

Mainstream opinion now is that Israel did have a right to respond but has gone too far.

Many journalists and politicians seem to have gone silent to avoid making the argument that Israel has gone too far.

Piers Morgan openly saying Israel has gone too far is good, more journalists/politicians should say the same.

Israel's bombing seems aimed at eradicating Hamas but this is a fool's errand that will only radicalize more Palestinians.

Why has Piers Morgan only said things have gone too far now, not earlier when the same points were being made?

People seem to think we can move on from Gaza instead of reassessing our priors and admitting we may have got this wrong.

250 people a day are still dying in Gaza but many want to move on to less important topics.

Israel's genocidal intentions remain as strong as 3 months ago but people want to move on.

People should stop avoiding the issue and reassess their views instead of silence.

Strong arguments are needed now against Israel's actions instead of silence.

Journalists/politicians should speak out to stop the conflict instead of allowing the news cycle to move on.

Transcripts

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while South Africa accuses Israel of

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genocide at the international criminal

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court the majority of Western

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politicians and journalists have

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remained relatively quiet on the

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atrocities in Gaza after hamas's attack

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on October the 7th pundits and

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politicians were queuing up to offer

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their condemnations government

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departments even raised the Israeli flag

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but with the Palestinian death toll

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hitting 24,000 many pundits and

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politicians seem relieved at the chance

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to move on to other things instead of

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focusing on a potential genocide and

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Gaza editors at the BBC ITV and

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Britain's newspapers have decided a

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factional fight within the dying Tory

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party is the real news we should be

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focused on and that's when they're not

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talking about King Charles's prostate

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perhaps they prefer to ignore the daily

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deaths of children in Gaza rather than

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risk the Flack they might get for

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actually challenging Israeli apartheid

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now to his credit Pierce Morgan is still

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focused on Israel Palestine and after a

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100 days of War he's belatedly stop

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defending the indefensible the civilian

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death toll in Gaza is testing the upper

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limits of proportionality more people

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are dying every day than in any other

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conflict in modern history Israel's no

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plan for life beyond the war except

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occupation or Anarchy and the nightmare

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scenario of the conflict engulfing the

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region is edging Closer To Grim reality

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with us-led strikes on Yemen and fears

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of war in Lebanon prime minister

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Netanyahu pandering to extremists who

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prop up his government says nothing not

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even the international court of justice

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will stop him Israel has dropped almost

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30,000 bombs and shells on Gaza in 100

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days eight times more than the US aimed

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at Iraq in six years of war it's true

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that every war in human history has

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taken many lives including many innocent

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civilian lives but 24,000 people in 3

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months with God knows how many more

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beneath the rubble is that still a

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proportionate response every day of this

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war I've asked that question of many

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guests from afar is increasingly like

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the answer is becoming no it's trueth

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that the Allied Forces killed masses of

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innocent people in Dresden and Hiroshima

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and Beyond to defeat the Nazis in World

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War II but that was 79 years ago we

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created systems of international law to

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make sure the atrocities on both sides

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would never be repeated it's true this

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was Israel's 911 and there was no public

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appetite for restraint back then but

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that yearning for justice took us into

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two disastrous and deadly Wars shouldn't

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Israel learn learn from those mistakes

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and it's true that Hamas is an

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oppressive misogynistic terror group

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which hides in tunnels and uses its

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people as human Shields but 85% of the

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entire population has now been displaced

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70% of gaza's homes and half of its

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buildings are damaged or destroyed only

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eight of its 36 hospitals are running

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2third of schools and 100 mosques have

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been damaged by Israel's bombardment is

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destruction on this scale really what it

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takes to eradicate Hamas and if the

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answer is yes yes well why are they

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still in charge when will Israel provide

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some evidence that it has a plan for

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life after this war for the gazans and

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for Israel and that that plan is

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remotely workable there are major

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unanswered questions about this war with

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major consequences for the world so that

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was only part of his uh sort of big

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intro speech he did also sort of pepper

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it with with lots of um condemnation of

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Hamas barbarism now you know whatever

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you you think of um I mean I think they

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committed War crimes and I I don't think

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attacking civilians is ever Justified

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but you know I don't think he gets the

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balance quite right but it is quite you

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know powerful someone who has been very

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much you know open to the Israeli side

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of the argument over the past 100 days

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is saying this has now gone too far um

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and Helen I want your thoughts on this

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because I do now actually think that the

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sort of the mainstream position right

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sometimes when I go on mainstream media

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and there sort of the person who I'm on

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with isn't actually necessarily a

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political journalist there someone who

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is sort of you know an influencer or

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sort of you know reports on on different

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things the mainstream opinion now is

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that Israel did have a right to respond

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to the October the 7th attacks but

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they've gone way too far gone way too

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far that to me is the mainstream

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position but to me to sort of avoid

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making that argument I've Just Seen lots

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of journalists and politicians sort of

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go silent they just sort of stop talking

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about this because it's a bit

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embarrassing you know I feel like sort

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of Pierce Morgan sort of standing up and

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saying No this has gone too far is is a

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good thing and we would be in a much

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stronger position if if all journalists

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and politicians were willing to sort of

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say the same I think that throughout

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this conflict I can't believe I'm going

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to say this but I have to give some

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credit to Pierce Morgan he has been

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asking similar kind of questions for at

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least the last month if not longer he's

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had a lot of pro Palestine guests on his

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show he's not been shy about including

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both sides of the debate not that I

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think that it's much of a one but credit

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to him for at least having people on and

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because I think he's had so much

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interaction with people who aren't just

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Pro Palestine because they see the the

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devastation and they feel some kind of

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empathy but people who've done years of

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research people who are completely

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immersed within the conflict people from

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our side of the political Spectrum in

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terms of how left doing we are I think

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that because he's had so much direct

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interaction with people who have shown

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him things that wouldn't otherwise have

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seen and perspectives who wouldn't

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otherwise have seen when it comes to

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kind of mainstream media Outlets who as

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you say don't really have much of their

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own opinions and certainly don't have

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huge amounts of knowledge about the

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history and the intricacies of the

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situation that's taken him to a place

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where you there's nothing that he can do

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to defend it and therefore he has to say

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something like this although what I will

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point out the idea of him saying well is

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is say they want to be able to use this

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stuff to eradicate Hamas of course I

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think that this is of course a Fool's

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errand every as Aon bani pointed out

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when he was on GB news debating this

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very issue every single building that

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you bomb is going to radicalize another

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Palestinian the support for Hamas in the

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West Bank is increased by up 30 points

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in the rec most recent poll that's a

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huge huge leap and so this idea that

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they can bomb their way to the removal

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of Hamas um is completely nonsensical

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because even if even it's not Hamas in

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name it'll be Hamas in terms of ideology

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based upon their reaction to the current

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crisis the other thing I would ask of

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Pier is why now why is this your point

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at which you believe things have gone

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too far you know 25,000 potential people

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dead scores more injured or

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missing potential Millions displaced at

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this point when the people he had on his

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show were talking about the issues and

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calling for a ceasefire and bringing up

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all of these points

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months ago two months ago over that when

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he had his interview with Hassam zlot

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was a month into the crisis and it's

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taken him this long I mean credit to the

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guy for at least getting to this point

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now but you have to say you we were here

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way way previously when we could see

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what was going to happen and I don't

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want to say I told you so but I do want

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to think that you know maybe if he can

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get to this position there's room for

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other people to move as well what I

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think is that personally lots of people

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are moving into this position but they

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would prefer just to not talk about it

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because you know if you come out really

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strongly against what Israel are doing

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you receive black um you might feel

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uncomfortable and to me it doesn't I

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feel like the people who are sort of

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going out in the media and actively

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defending what Israel are doing is

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shrinking but instead what we're just

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getting is sort of Silence people are

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just happy for the new cycle to move on

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as I say to to topics as important as um

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the the Princess of Wales um having you

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know what seems like a fairly routin

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um operation

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or Prince Charles or King Charles now

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having a swollen prostate so I think

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it's it's really time um for people to

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stop saying oh oh the gods of War isn't

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that something everyone knows about that

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that's something in the past now this is

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still going on 250 people a day are

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still dying right the genocidal

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intentions of Israel are no less strong

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than they were three months ago but

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people seem to think we can move on to

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other things now let's not reassess our

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priors because heaven forbid we do that

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heaven forbid we admit that we might

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have got this a little bit

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wrong

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