‘Biden is going to beat Trump like a drum’ | Anthony Scaramucci

Summary

The transcript covers an interview with Anthony Scaramucci, former White House Communications Director for Donald Trump, regarding the 2024 U.S. presidential election. Scaramucci believes Trump will likely win the Republican nomination barring legal intervention, but predicts Joe Biden will defeat him again as president. He asserts Trump's support has shrunk despite his ardent base, Biden has overseen decent economic numbers, and most voters will choose preserving democracy over Trump's antics. The contest will be brutal given the candidates' ages, and debates are uncertain. Scaramucci would work to ensure Trump isn't reelected, though a second Trump term could damage U.S. institutions and global standing.

Takeaways

• 😀 Donald Trump is predicted to win the New Hampshire Republican primary over Nikki Haley.
• 😮 Nikki Haley says Trump didn't inform her before Ron DeSantis dropped out and endorsed Trump.
• 🤔 Despite legal troubles, polls suggest Trump remains popular with Republican voters.
• 😯 Anthony Scaramucci believes Trump will be the Republican nominee unless convicted of a crime before the election.
• 🧐 Scaramucci says Trump appeals to disenfranchised blue collar voters who feel the system is unfair.
• 😕 Scaramucci predicts Biden will beat Trump like he did in 2020 if they face off again.
• 😬 Scaramucci believes Trump wants to be a dictator and threatens American democracy.
• 😨 Scaramucci expects a brutal contest between Biden and Trump due to their old age.
• 😰 In a second term, Trump could withdraw from NATO and further damage America's global standing.
• 😓 Scaramucci says debates between Trump and Biden are uncertain but important for voters.

Q & A

What is Ronda Santz's current position regarding the Republican presidential nomination race?

Ronda Santz has dropped out of the Republican nomination race and is now backing Donald Trump.

What was Nikki Haley's reaction to Ronda Santz dropping out and backing Trump?

Nikki Haley said Trump did not inform her directly about Ronda Santz's decision. She said this is typical behavior from male politicians and reflects the divided nature of politics currently.

How does Anthony Scarramucci assess Trump's chances of getting the Republican nomination?

Scaramucci believes Trump is likely to get the Republican nomination barring any guilty verdicts this year in the federal cases pending against him regarding the insurrection and documents case.

What are the potential legal obstacles that could stop Trump from running again?

The 14th Amendment case going to the Supreme Court could result in blue states removing Trump from their ballots. Criminal convictions in 2023 in either the insurrection case or documents case could also derail his campaign.

Why does Scarramucci believe Trump has such ardent support among blue collar voters?

Scaramucci says these voters feel disenfranchised and think the system is unfair to them. Trump represents their anger and is willing to attack the establishments they dislike.

Does Scarramucci believe Trump can win the 2024 election against Biden?

No, Scarramucci predicts Biden will "beat [Trump] like a drum" again, as Trump has not expanded his base and the economy is doing well currently under Biden.

What impact could Trump's threats regarding NATO have if he's reelected?

Scaramucci says it would likely put more pressure on America's European allies and further degrade America's global standing.

Will there be presidential debates between Trump and Biden in 2024?

Scaramucci says it's uncertain if debates will occur given both candidates' reluctance previously. Lack of debates would break tradition and be a disservice to voters.

What advantage did Haley and DeSantis miss in challenging Trump?

Scaramucci criticizes them for not creating a new voter market by appealing to non-voters the way Obama did, instead just positioning themselves against Trump.

What is Mark Meadows' current role regarding Trump?

Meadows is positioned as the chief witness for the prosecution against Trump in the insurrection case.

Outlines

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😃 Trump likely to be nominee but Biden expected to beat him.

Paragraph 1 discusses how Trump is on course to win the Republican nomination for president in 2024, despite ongoing legal troubles. However, Anthony Scaramucci believes Biden will defeat Trump in the general election as Trump has not expanded his base of support.

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😟 Trump's support comes from disenfranchised working class.

Paragraph 2 explains Trump's enduring popularity among blue collar voters who feel disenfranchised and desperate economically. Trump represents their anger against the establishment.

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😅 Biden expected to win despite concerns over his age.

Paragraph 3 says Biden is still favored to beat Trump in 2024 despite Trump's lead in polls now. Biden's campaign hasn't started yet and the economy is doing well. Concerns over Biden's age are outweighed by his commitment to democratic principles.

Keywords

💡Republican nomination

The Republican nomination refers to the process by which the Republican Party selects its candidate for the US presidential election. Donald Trump is currently the front runner to receive the 2024 Republican nomination. This concept is central to the video's discussion of Trump's political prospects.

💡New Hampshire primary

The New Hampshire primary is an election held in New Hampshire early in the US presidential primary season. It is seen as an important early test of candidate popularity. The video discusses polling showing Trump is expected to win the 2024 New Hampshire Republican primary over rivals like Nikki Haley.

💡potential legal cases

The video references several ongoing and potential legal cases involving Donald Trump, like investigations into the January 6th attack and his handling of classified documents. The outcomes of these cases could impact his ability to run for president in 2024.

💡Trump's base of support

The video analyzes why Trump maintains a strong base of loyal supporters among blue collar and economically struggling Americans who see him as representing their grievances. This base is key to his continued political power.

💡2024 presidential election

The 2024 US presidential election is framed as the ultimate matchup between a Trump Republican ticket and a Biden Democratic ticket. Much of the video is centered on handicapping Trump's odds of recapturing the White House.

💡Biden's economic track record

The video references the state of the economy under President Biden as a potential asset if he runs against Trump again in 2024. Low unemployment and growth may blunt Trump attacks on the economy.

💡threats to democracy

The video raises concerns about Trump's commitment to democratic institutions and precedents. His past challenges to norms and toleration of the January 6th riots increase fears he could substantially erode democracy if re-elected.

💡NATO alliance

Trump has threatened to withdraw the US from the NATO alliance, which would significantly reshape European security. This demonstrates his willingness to overturn global institutions and frameworks.

💡2024 election debates

The video speculates whether Biden and Trump would debate each other directly during the 2024 campaign. This could be a pivotal chance to evaluate the candidates, but reluctance around debates may prevent them.

💡divided politics

The video quotes Nikki Haley criticizing the intense polarization of US politics and how this divides Americans along uncompromising lines. Trump is seen as an instigator of such division.

Highlights

Trump faces multiple federal cases that could stop him if convicted, but likely will still end up as Republican nominee

Supreme Court decision on 14th Amendment could allow states to remove Trump from ballots, blocking his path

Trump's base feels disenfranchised and sees him as an avatar for their anger against establishments

Other Republican candidates failed to create a new market of non-voters like Obama did

Biden will likely beat Trump like last time as Trump hasn't expanded his base or popularity

Current polls are meaningless this far out from 2024 election

Economy is doing quite well under Biden which people need reminding of

Biden campaign hasn't fully gone after Trump yet

American people will likely choose preserving democracy over Trump's insanity

Trump has talked about wanting to withdraw from NATO in a second term

Second Trump term would further hurt America's global standing

We may not see Trump-Biden debates which would break tradition

Lack of debates would be unfair to voters who see them as deciding factor

Chief witness against Trump is his former chief of staff Mark Meadows

Second Trump term would put pressure on European allies

Transcripts

Joe Biden's going to beat him like a

drum and so the way he beat him last

time he'll beat him in

2024 and I'll just submit this to your

viewers and listeners whether they like

Mr Trump or don't like him ask yourself

is any new person going to be voting for

Mr Trump uh has he in any way expanded

his base or expanded his popularity I

get that his popularity is Ardent and

unyielding but the real question is are

there any new participants that want to

vote for Mr Trump and in those polls the

answer to that is no of anything his

support has shrunken now the next

Battleground in the US election campaign

is the New Hampshire primary tomorrow

where Donald Trump is on course for

another convincing victory over his last

remaining rival for the Republican

nomination Nikki Haley Ronda santz

dropped out of the race after a

lackluster campaign and is backing

Donald Trump this was Nikki Haley's

reaction to the news he didn't call or

inform me and look this is what the

fellas do the difference is I don't take

politics personally I never have and I

think that's the problem with where we

are now is you now have people who want

to decide who's a good Republican who's

a bad Republican who's a good person

who's a bad person that's why our

country is so divided I don't judge

people I focus on policy that's going to

make America stronger I don't take

politics personally I'm not thin skinned

like Donald Trump I think that people

don't want that they want a leader who's

going to bring out the best in people

and get our country going forward well

despite the polls suggesting Trump has a

big lead ahead of tomorrow's primary

Nikki Haley is still insisting she can

win Anthony scaramucci is Donald Trump's

former White House director of

communications and joins us now good

evening to you

Anthony hi Carol good evening do you

think that Donald Trump is on course for

another victory in New Hampshire

tomorrow and then the president the

nomination from the Republican Party

so I I do the short answer is yes but I

think the the longer answer is barring

some intervention from the Department of

Justice as you know he's got two Federal

cases going one for the Insurrection and

one for the theft of the top secret

documents if either of those cases are

tried this year and he's convicted in

one of those cases I think that would

probably stop him but boring that I

think think we're going to have a

rematch it's going to be President Biden

versus former president Trump let me

just pick up on those points you made

about the legal cases which are

surrounding Donald Trump a whole series

of different uh legal questions that

he's got to face so far none of those

Court appearances and none of that has

led to any denting in his popularity and

it's hard to see how any of those cases

could actually be concluded in time to

stop him running isn't

it yes I mean I and I agree I agree with

that but I mean you know the wheels of

Justice turn slowly uh but there are a

few things that could happen as you'll

recall there is a Supreme Court decision

that will come out February March

related to our 14th Amendment where two

states have taken Mr Trump off of the

ballot uh because of his threat of

insurrection and so that's right there

pretty specific in the 14th Amendment um

of course Mr Trump is uh appealing that

to the Supreme Court if the court were

to rule that the 14th Amendment as it

stands in its original content is valid

uh that would give the opportunity for

many of these blue states to remove Mr

Trump from the ballot and then he would

lose his ability to get the Electoral

College votes necessary to become

president so there are a few things in

his way uh but if you're asking me the

broader question will any of those

things stop him I'm going to say no I

think he ends up as the Republican

nominee uh despite the top secret

document case despite the

Insurrection um he's also got an

election interference case in Georgia

and he has this 14th Amendment case is

going to be heard at the Supreme Court

so he he you know he is the proverbial

Teflon Dawn and I think he can withstand

these things and he'll probably end up

as a nominee how do you think it is that

Donald Trump despite all those cases

which you've just outlined there um

despite his involvement in the January

the 6th uh violence despite all of that

and the fact that some Republicans have

been working really hard to try to stop

him how has he managed to capture so

much support across the Republican party

that he now appears

Unstoppable well I think anybody that

voted for the brexit in the United

Kingdom would likely understand his

support and so you know for myself I

grew up in a blueco collar neighborhood

and I can tell you that the blueco

collar people in the United States feel

disenfranchised they feel like a group

of Elites have sort of stolen their

aspiration in America and so maybe 35

years ago these were bluecollar

economically aspirational people and now

they feel like their bluecollar

economically desperation and so Mr Trump

represents them in their mind he's an

avatar for their anger uh he's someone

that will use the strength of his

personality as sort of a wrecking ball

against things like the media the

political establishment the medical

establishment and so they like that they

they don't like the way the system is

configured right now they think the

system is unfair to them and a result of

which he has very Ardent uh Unstoppable

unyielding support from those people and

if I could just be CID for one second

you know know Governor Haley or Governor

D santis they had an opportunity to go

after a market of other disenfranchised

voters which are the non voters they

could have created a new market the way

an entrepreneur does but they didn't do

that they just stayed in the Republican

Lane me versus Trump as opposed to going

after more griev people Barack Obama did

that in 2008 and he was able to beat the

establishment Democrats and rise to the

presidency so unfortunately the

candidates running against Mr Trump have

not proven to be

entrepreneurial

politicians and if as seems likely

Donald Trump wins uh in New Hampshire

tomorrow uh he goes on to get the

Republican nomination how do you think

that campaign against Joe Biden is going

to play

out well you listen Joe Biden's gonna

beat him like a drum and so the way he

beat him last time he'll beat him in

2024 and I'll just submit this to your

viewers and listeners whether they like

Mr Trump or don't like him ask yourself

is any new person going to be voting for

Mr Trump uh has he in any way expanded

his base or expanded his popularity I

get that his popularity is Ardent and

unyielding but the real question is are

there any new participants that want to

vote for Mr Trump and in those polls the

answer to that is no if anything his

support has shrunken and I think people

are going to play the Highlight Reel of

his Insanity over the next 10 or so

months and uh he'll lose the election

remember the econom is doing quite well

in the US I think people need a reminder

of that as well so despite all those

polls showing for example that Donald

Trump has quite a significant lead in

those important swing States and we know

that when it comes to the presidential

contest it is those small number of

Swing states that hold the key to the

result you actually think that despite

what everyone else is saying Donald

Trump's gonna

lose I I I do believe that yes and

remember we're we're talking now in mid

to late January uh that's a lifetime

away the final polling data and of

course the Biden campaign hasn't really

even geared up their targeted response

against Mr Trump so uh all of those

preliminary polls are absolutely

meaningless uh I think the differ itial

is are there any new supporters for Mr

Trump and I think the answer to that is

no and how is the economy doing under

President Biden and uh we have pretty

good economic numbers and I think we'll

have better numbers over the next 10

months so uh listen it's going to be a

brutal contest they have a combined age

of

158 or 159 years old uh both of these

guys should be into their retirement and

not running um but this is what we're

faced with these are the two choices and

I think I think President Biden will

beat them and despite the fact that we

know that a lot of Voters and a lot of

analysts uh and indeed quite a few

Democrats are very concerned that uh

President Biden's age and the fact that

he seems to be showing his age is going

to be a major

factor despite all that yes I think

ultimately um they'll they'll see him as

somebody that's an

institutionalist and that will protect

the foundational principles of the

American democracy and I think we have

to take Mr Trump at his word that he

wants to be a dictator for a day which

means more than one day and that he

wants to persecute his adversaries using

what's supposed to be an impartial

system the Department of Justice and so

I think when it when when it gets down

and dirty the American people are going

to choose the preservation of their

democracy over that time type of sorted

insanity if Donald Trump does win the

White House for a second term what do

you think a second Trump presidency

would mean um there's a lot of concern

here in the UK for example about his

concern about his approach to

International institutions his threat to

pull out of

NATO well Carol I'm I'm expecting you to

write a recommendation for me for UK

citizenship is that something you're

willing to do for

me well I'm sure that I would be

prepared to to sign any legal document

that I was legally entitled to do so

long as they were views that I held on

a no listen I'm teasing you I'm just I'm

sure that I'm gonna have to hide under a

rock for four years but but the the the

the truth be told yes he would present a

threat to the institutions of the

Democracy he had he talked about wanting

to withdraw from nato in his second term

uh and so that would be his second term

I guess the good news would be he can

only be president for four years and I

think that would be generally good for

everybody because the same way we

outlasted them last year or last time I

should say the stresses on these

institutions uh I think would be

bearable the the real question is would

he try to do something to

subvert the Democracy we we've already

seen that he's willing to foment an

Insurrection um you know remember his uh

the chief witness for the prosecution is

Mark Meadows it's not a democratically

elected prosecutor it is a former Chief

of Staff of his and it's a former

Freedom caucus member which is the

hardest right-wing of the House of

Representatives that's the chief witness

against them so we'll have somebody that

has already threatened the system uh

helped the ferment an Insurrection has

talked about the expansion of the

executive powers and the and the the

pulling out of America from NATO uh I

think it would put a lot of pressure on

our European allies and I think it would

further hurt America's standing in the

world and so for all of those reasons

I'll be working very hard to make sure

he doesn't get

reelected you talked about how this was

going to be a brutal contest between

Trump and Biden if indeed that is what

we see are we going to see debates

between these two

and and how important will they

be so it's it's a very good question um

and we may not end up seeing debates

which would be a travesty for the

American people usually these debates

are the final calling card or the final

decision-making process for the American

voter but I think there's been a general

reluctancy for both of these candidates

to want to debate and uh depending on

how close the election is we may or may

not see the debates I think that would

be a real shame it would break it would

break a longstanding tradition

uh and it it it it wouldn't be fair to

the American voter great to speak to you

uh Anthony scaramucci who was Donald

Trump's uh White House director of

communications thanks so much for

joining us

tonight