BOMBSHELL: Trump hit with NEW INDICTMENT

The Legal Breakdown with Glenn Kirschner
27 Aug 202412:49

Summary

TLDRIn the latest 'Legal Breakdown', it's revealed that Donald Trump faces a superseding indictment in his DC case, maintaining the original four felony charges despite the Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling. Prosecutor Jack Smith has meticulously revised the indictment to exclude any evidence that might contravene the new immunity standards, presenting a stronger case that could lead to a trial. The development is seen as a significant step towards holding Trump accountable for his alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 election results.

Takeaways

  • 📜 Donald Trump has been hit with a superseding indictment in his DC case, which includes the same four criminal charges from the initial indictment.
  • 🚨 The charges stem from Trump's alleged attempts to overturn the 2020 presidential election results.
  • 🛡 In response to the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity, the new indictment has been carefully curated to exclude any evidence that could be seen as violating the ruling.
  • 🔍 Prosecutor Jack Smith and his team have conducted a line-by-line comparison of the original 45-page indictment to ensure compliance with the Supreme Court's decision.
  • 🗂️ The new indictment is 36 pages long, with some evidence removed to respect the Supreme Court's ruling on immunity.
  • 📉 Removed evidence includes discussions Trump had with Department of Justice officials and a tweet from the Oval Office, which were considered as potentially within presidential duties.
  • 📈 Despite the removal of certain evidence, the four felony charges against Trump have been maintained as sound and prosecutable.
  • 🏛 The case will now proceed to be litigated before Judge Chuin, who will determine if the new indictment meets the Supreme Court's standards.
  • 🔄 The process may eventually go back to the DC federal circuit court of appeals and possibly to the Supreme Court again.
  • 🎯 The use of a new grand jury for the superseding indictment is a strategic move to ensure the case is not tainted by previous evidence that could be seen as inadmissible.
  • 📆 The timeline for the case may be extended slightly due to the new indictment, but the overall scheduling track is expected to remain the same.

Q & A

  • What is the significance of the superseding indictment against Donald Trump?

    -The superseding indictment is significant because it maintains the same four felony charges against Donald Trump, despite the recent Supreme Court ruling on presidential immunity. It shows that the prosecution believes they have enough evidence to proceed with the trial.

  • How did the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity affect the indictment?

    -The Supreme Court's ruling led the prosecution to review the original indictment and remove any evidence or information that could be seen as violating the court's decision on presidential immunity. This resulted in a pared-down indictment of 36 pages, compared to the original 45.

  • What was the original length of the indictment against Donald Trump, and how did it change after the Supreme Court's ruling?

    -The original indictment was 45 pages long. After the Supreme Court's ruling, the prosecution revised it to 36 pages, removing evidence that could be considered as violating presidential immunity.

  • What was an example of evidence removed from the indictment due to the Supreme Court's ruling?

    -An example of evidence removed includes conversations Donald Trump had with Department of Justice officials, attempting to influence them to support his claims of election fraud, as the Supreme Court ruled that a president's core constitutional functions involve communication with the attorney general and Department of Justice officials.

  • Why was a new grand jury involved in the superseding indictment?

    -A new grand jury was involved to ensure that the indictment was untainted by any evidence that the Supreme Court had deemed inadmissible. This prevents any potential legal challenges based on the grand jury having been exposed to inadmissible evidence.

  • What is the role of Judge Chuin in the ongoing case against Donald Trump?

    -Judge Chuin is the presiding judge in the DC case against Donald Trump. She will review the new indictment and decide whether the charges and evidence presented by the prosecution meet the Supreme Court's standards on presidential immunity.

  • What is the current status of the case after the superseding indictment?

    -The case is expected to proceed with the current schedule, with the next step being a hearing where Judge Chuin will decide on the admissibility of the charges and evidence. The prosecution has already suggested that Donald Trump does not need to be physically present for his arraignment on the new indictment.

  • How does the press release from Jack Smith's spokesperson reflect the approach taken by the prosecution?

    -The press release is brief and to the point, indicating that the new indictment respects and implements the Supreme Court's holdings and remand instructions. It shows the prosecution's commitment to proceeding with the case in a manner that is legally sound and ethical.

  • What is the potential impact of the superseding indictment on the timeline of the case?

    -The superseding indictment may cause a slight delay as the new information needs to be processed, and Donald Trump will have to be arraigned on the new charges. However, the prosecution does not expect a significant extension of the timeline, and the case is likely to remain on a similar scheduling track.

  • What are the implications of the prosecution's decision not to insist on Donald Trump's physical presence for arraignment?

    -The decision not to insist on Donald Trump's physical presence for arraignment shows the prosecution's confidence in the strength of the charges and their willingness to proceed without additional procedural complications, which could further streamline the legal process.

Outlines

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📜 Trump's Indictment Update: Supreme Court Ruling's Impact

The video script discusses the recent developments in Donald Trump's legal case in Washington D.C. Despite the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity, a new superseding indictment has been issued against Trump, which intriguingly includes the same four criminal charges as the initial indictment. The discussion highlights the proactive measures taken by the prosecution, led by Jack Smith, to ensure the charges are airtight and in line with the recent court ruling. The script explains how the prosecution meticulously reviewed the original 45-page indictment, removing any evidence that could be seen as violating presidential immunity, resulting in a streamlined 36-page indictment. It also touches on the significance of presenting the case to a new grand jury, untouched by previous evidence that may have been affected by the Supreme Court's decision, and the strategic brilliance of this move to preempt any potential defense arguments.

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🏛️ The Legal Process Post-Indictment: What's Next for Trump's Case?

This paragraph delves into the anticipated legal process following the new indictment against Donald Trump. It suggests that Judge Chuin, known for her experience in handling serious cases, is likely to support the prosecution's decision to proceed with the charges. The script outlines the potential steps, including the submission of joint proposals by the prosecution and defense regarding the admissibility of evidence, and the likelihood of the case moving through the federal court system, possibly reaching the Supreme Court again. It also addresses the different circumstances of the Florida prosecution, where most of Trump's alleged criminal acts occurred post-presidency, and the distinct legal strategies that may be employed there. The paragraph concludes by discussing the surprise element of the new indictment and the proactive approach taken by the prosecutor, Jack Smith.

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🕰️ Timeline and Implications of the Superseding Indictment

The final paragraph of the script provides insights into how the new superseding indictment might impact the timeline of the case. It mentions an upcoming deadline for the parties to submit proposals on the next steps in the trial, including the potential exclusion of evidence due to the Supreme Court's presidential immunity ruling. The script speculates that Judge Chuin may extend the timeline to accommodate the new indictment, requiring Trump's arraignment on the new charges. However, it is suggested that the prosecution may waive Trump's physical appearance for the arraignment, keeping the case on a similar scheduling track. The paragraph also discusses the implications of the new grand jury's involvement and the strategic move by the prosecution to present the case to jurors who have not previously heard potentially disallowed evidence, thereby avoiding potential legal challenges from Trump's defense.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Superseding Indictment

A superseding indictment is a new indictment that replaces a previous one, often used to add or modify charges. In the context of the video, it refers to the legal action taken by Special Counsel Jack Smith against Donald Trump, where the original indictment was reviewed and revised in light of the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity, without dropping any of the four felony charges against Trump. This is exemplified in the script where it mentions, 'a new indictment was just handed down by a brand new grand jury' and the effort to 'respect and implement the Supreme Court's holdings' [^1^].

💡Four Felony Charges

This term refers to the specific charges that Donald Trump was facing, which were unchanged despite the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity. The script explains that 'all four felony charges remain' after the new indictment was filed, indicating the seriousness of the legal situation and that the charges were considered solid enough to withstand the Supreme Court's recent decision [^1^].

💡Supreme Court Ruling

The Supreme Court ruling mentioned in the script is a reference to a decision made by the Supreme Court that impacts the case against Donald Trump. The ruling is noted to have influenced the reworking of the initial indictment, as the script states, 'they took the Supreme Court absolute immunity ruling and they went through every line every word every charge of that first 45 page indictment' [^1^].

💡Legal Breakdown

The term 'legal breakdown' is used in the script to describe the analysis of the legal situation surrounding Donald Trump's case. It is the theme of the video, where the hosts discuss the implications of the new indictment and the Supreme Court's ruling on the case. The script opens with 'you're watching the legal breakdown', indicating that the video will delve into an in-depth analysis of the legal issues at hand [^1^].

💡Presidential Immunity

Presidential immunity refers to the protection from legal proceedings that a sitting president may have. The script discusses the impact of the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity on the indictment against Donald Trump, noting that 'in the aftermath of the Supreme Court horrendous ruling on presidential immunity' the team had to reassess the charges [^1^].

💡Department of Justice Officials

This term is used in the script to refer to the officials within the Department of Justice who were allegedly involved in Donald Trump's attempts to overturn the 2020 election results. The script mentions conversations that Trump had with these officials, which were initially part of the first indictment but had to be removed due to the Supreme Court ruling [^1^].

💡Oval Office

The Oval Office is the official office of the President of the United States, located in the West Wing of the White House. In the script, it is mentioned in the context of Donald Trump's tweeting activities, which were part of the initial indictment but were later removed due to the Supreme Court's ruling that these could be seen as part of his official presidential duties [^1^].

💡Capitol

The Capitol refers to the United States Capitol Building, which is the home of the U.S. Congress. The script mentions an incident involving 'folks who were beating the hell out of police officers at the Capitol,' which was part of Trump's alleged conduct that was initially included in the indictment [^1^].

💡Federal Court

A federal court is a court whose jurisdiction is established by the United States Constitution and laws passed by Congress. In the script, it is mentioned that the case against Donald Trump will proceed in a federal court in DC, indicating the high level of jurisdiction and importance of the case [^1^].

💡Judge Chuin

Judge Chuin, or Judge Tanya Chutkan, is the presiding judge in the DC case against Donald Trump. The script discusses her potential role in deciding on the evidence presented in the new indictment and the likelihood of her being persuaded by the arguments made by Jack Smith's team [^1^].

Highlights

Donald Trump received a superseding indictment in his DC case with the same four criminal charges as the initial indictment.

The indictment comes after the Supreme Court's ruling on presidential immunity.

All four felony charges against Trump remained intact despite the Supreme Court ruling.

The first indictment was 45 pages long detailing Trump's actions and statements.

Prosecutors reviewed and redacted the initial indictment to comply with the Supreme Court's immunity ruling.

The new indictment is 36 pages long after removing evidence that could violate presidential immunity.

Conversations with Department of Justice officials were removed as they could be seen as part of presidential duties.

Trump's tweets from the Oval Office were also redacted from the indictment.

Prosecutors believe the remaining evidence is sufficient to try and convict Trump.

The new indictment was presented to a new grand jury to ensure no tainted evidence was considered.

Prosecutors expect the case to be litigated before Judge Chuin and may eventually reach the Supreme Court.

The Florida prosecution case is in a different legal posture due to the timing of Trump's actions.

Jack Smith's team issued a press release explaining the superseding indictment and its compliance with the Supreme Court's holdings.

The use of a new grand jury is seen as a strategic move to avoid any potential bias from previous evidence.

The timeline for the case may be extended slightly to accommodate the new indictment and arraignment.

Judge Chuin is expected to review the charges and evidence proposed by Jack Smith in an upcoming hearing.

The superseding indictment does not necessarily delay the overall timeline of the trial.

Transcripts

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you're watching the legal breakdown

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Glenn we've got some bombshell news here

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Donald Trump was just hit with a

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superseding indictment in his DC case uh

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but notably the four charges that he was

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hit with are the exact same four

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criminal charges that he was hit with in

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his initial indictment can you explain

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what's going on here Brian are you ready

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for some good news on the legal front oh

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oh how I've been yearning to hear those

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words so in the aftermath of the Supreme

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Court horrendous ruling on presidential

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immunity we've all been waiting to see

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will Jack Smith have to get rid of one

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of the charges two of the charges three

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of the charges will the indictment

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against Donald Trump survive um this is

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the indictment for him trying to

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overturn the results of the 2020

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presidential election and boy did we get

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good news a new indictment was just

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handed down by a brand new grand jury

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different separate and distinct from the

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first Grand Jury that returned the first

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indictment against Donald Trump the

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first indictment had four felony charges

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against Donald Trump we were waiting to

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see how many might drop out as a as a

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result of the Supreme Court ruling guess

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what none of them dropped out all four

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felony charges remain here's some

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important takeaways the first indictment

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against Donald Trump on those four

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felony charges it was 45 pages long

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there was a whole bunch of stuff about

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what Donald Trump said what Donald Trump

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did that constituted the the various

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crimes that were indicted against Donald

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Trump so what Jack Smith and his team

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did is they took the Supreme Court

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absolute immunity ruling and they went

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through every line every word every

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charge of that first 45 page indictment

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here's what they did Brian I've been

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doing a line by line comparison they

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pulled out any information any evidence

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that might have run a foul of the

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Supreme Court's absolute immunity ruling

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but what they concluded was all four

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criminal charges remain are sound and

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can be prosecuted even after the Supreme

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Court decision the new indictment for

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criminal charges paired down to 36 Pages

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let me give you an example of what they

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took out so there was a lot of um talk

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in the first indictment about

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conversations that Donald Trump had with

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his various Department of Justice

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officials trying to you know we the

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Department of Justice corrupt the

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Department of Justice have the

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Department of Justice send letters to

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Battleground States saying oh there's

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tons of fraud so let's just go with

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alternate electors I'm taking Liberty

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with the language there but a lot of

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that does not survive the Supreme Court

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ruling why because the Supreme Court

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said well a president's core

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constitutional functions involve talking

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to his attorney general and his

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Department of Justice officials so Jack

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Smith said fine I will pull all of that

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evidence out of the indictment and yet

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there's still enough evidence even

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redacting that stuff out to bring the

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charge to try the case and to convict

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Donald Trump this is really

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exceptionally good news let me give you

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another example in the first indictment

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there was something about Donald Trump

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tweeting from the Oval Office that we

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love you you're very fine people he said

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to the folks who were beating the hell

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out of police officers at the Capal

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um and so what Jack Smith did is he said

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well that could be viewed as an official

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presidential Duty tweeting out a message

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to the masses from the Oval Office so

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I'll pull it out but guess what it

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doesn't undercut the four felony charges

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on which Donald Trump is indicted so you

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know this is an indication that Jack

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Smith believes all four felony charges

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survive the Supreme Court ruling and

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he's ready to move in the direction of a

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trial now with that said all of this was

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done to make this indictment airtight

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against Donald Trump and obviously all

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four charges remain even even without

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the added benefit of the other uh the

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other evidence that could be perceived

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as as uh as falling under the under the

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realm of the uh the umbrella of the

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immunity ruling but who's the final

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Arbiter of whether this will indeed

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satisfy the Supreme Court's new

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threshold is that going to be judge

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chuin is that going to be the Supreme

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Court itself Brian you had to burst our

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bub you had to bring us all down didn't

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you I'm I'm a realist if because you're

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teasing it up and you're making me tell

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the viewers okay I'll take the bait we

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all know that this is going to end up

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back in front of the Supreme Court but

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here's what Jack Smith will be able to

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do first this is all going to be

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litigated uh before judge chuin the

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presiding judge in the DC case and Jack

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Smith is going to make his argument that

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judge we took out the stuff that could

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be perceived as violating the Supreme

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Court ruling on presidential immunity

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and we still have plenty of evidence to

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try and convict Donald Trump and then

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judge chuckin in the first instance will

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look at it and say yay or nay I have a

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feeling given you know what I know of

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judge chuckin from trying murder cases

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against her when she was a public

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defender back in the day and watching

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her career as a federal court judge in

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Washington DC she is going to be

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persuaded by Jack Smith's imminently

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supportable decision and then it's going

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to go back to the DC federal circuit

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court of appeals and back to the Supreme

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Court this is still a really important

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step albeit a step that is still three

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or four steps removed from a jury being

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uh seated in that Federal courtroom in

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DC and Jack Smith's people giving their

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opening statement on these four felony

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charges Glen if Jack Smith had the

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foresight to do this in the DC case all

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the I mean he's been doing this for a

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while presumably as soon as the immunity

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ruling was handed down if because if the

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superseding indictment was already laid

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out today just a few weeks after the

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immunity ruling was handed down

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presumably we can assume that he got to

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work on it almost immediately are we

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likely to see the same thing happen in

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the Florida prosecution I think that

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case is in a different posture first of

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all most of the criminal acts by Donald

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Trump occurred after he left the

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presidency so I don't think you have

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necessarily the same factors that are at

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play in the DC case when he committed

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all these crimes while he was still

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president even though many of them were

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after he lost the election but he was

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still in the white house until January

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20th um and the cases are in a different

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posture because Jack Smith just filed

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his appeal of uh judge Canon's dismissal

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her Lawless dismissal because it

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violated Supreme Court precedent

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dismissal of Donald Trump's classified

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documents case so that is now being

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litigated in the 11th Circuit Court of

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Appeal so cases are in different

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postures and the criminal charges arise

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sort of under different circumstances

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Glenn did it surprise you that Jack

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Smith would take such a proactive step

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here I mean I mean like I said before he

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had to move quickly in order to do this

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uh and I think it came as a surprise to

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to most of us seeing this that all of a

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sudden a superseding indictment was

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dropped yeah I don't know if this is

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going to make sense Brian but it caught

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me by surprise but it didn't surprise me

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because Jack Smith has been pushing as

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fast as hard as aggressively ethically

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so as I think a prosecutor can push and

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can I share one more thing with our

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viewers that just warmed this old

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Prosecutor's Heart You Know Jack Smith's

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press person is probably the person who

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works the least in Washington DC because

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they don't issue a whole lot of press

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releases or make statements to the media

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however to accompany this new indictment

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we got a press release from Jack Smith's

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spokesperson let me read it it's very

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short today a federal grand jury in the

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District of Columbia returned a

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superseding indictment charging

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defendant Trump with the same criminal

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offenses that were charged in the

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original indictment the superseding or

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second subsequent indictment which was

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presented to a new grand jury put a pin

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in that that had not previously heard

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evidence in this case reflects the

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government's efforts to respect and

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implement the Supreme Court's Holdings

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and remand instructions here's why I

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said put a pin in the fact that a brand

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new grand jury who had not heard any

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evidence previously was the grand jury

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that returned this indictment this is a

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stroke of

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Genius after the Supreme Court said well

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you know what you can't use evidence a

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evidence B evidence c um against Donald

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Trump for any reason and so that's the

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stuff that Jack Smith pulled out of the

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indictment but you know what Donald

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Trump's lawyers would have yelled and

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screamed if Jack Smith had not used a

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brand new grand jury they would have

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said wait a minute that first grand jury

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heard all that offending stuff all of

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that stuff that the Supreme Court said

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has no business being presented to any

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finder of fact when they're deciding

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whether to indict Donald Trump or not so

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Jack Smith in very forward-leaning

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proactive fashion said fine I'm going to

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present all the evidence to a new grand

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jury but I'm not going to present the

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stuff that the Supreme Court in

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hindsight has said no grand jury should

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have heard so this grand jury is

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completely un tainted it was a brilliant

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move that cuts off a line of attack that

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I promise would have come from Donald

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Trump's lawyers had Jack Smith not gone

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down this path okay let's finish off

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with this how does this impact the

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timeline does the fact that a

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superseding indictment was handed down

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have to make a start from the beginning

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or can we start from the immediate spot

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that we're at right now in this trial uh

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where are we yeah great question so we

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have some concrete information that can

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begin to answer that question first of

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all this coming Friday judge chuin had

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asked the parties the prosecutors and

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the defense attorneys to submit a joint

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proposal about what these hearings

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should look like moving forward you know

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what evidence do we think survives the

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Supreme Court's presidential immunity

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ruling and which evidence has to be

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tossed out Jack Smith has gotten in

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front of that so what I think will

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happen is Judge chuin first of all will

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probably say you know what I was going

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to ask y'all to submit I had ordered you

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all to submit these joint

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recommendations to me this Friday and

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then I was going to have you come into

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court next week I think on September 5th

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and we were going to begin talking about

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this stuff I suspect you're going to see

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an order from Judge chuin maybe even

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supon before any of the parties ask her

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or suggest that there should now be a

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timetable or schedule she'll probably

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say you know what we're going to extend

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this by a couple of weeks because this

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is new information Donald Trump has to

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be arraigned on this indictment just

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like he was arraigned that's a fancy

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term for your Force first court

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appearance when the judge reads you the

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charges and put you on formal notice of

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what you have just been indicted on I

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suspect you're going to see that

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arraignment date in the next week or two

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however there's reporting that Jack

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Smith has already said listen Donald

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Trump's been arraigned once on a similar

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indictment same for charges we will not

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insist that he be physically present in

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the courthouse when he is arraigned we

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will wave his appearance so I don't

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think you're going to have Trump pulled

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back into federal court just to be

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arraigned on his indictment and then

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ultimately does this extend things

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farther out into the future I think the

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answer is no when a superseding

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indictment is returned particularly on

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the same four charges and the evidence

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is paired down not even beefed up I

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think we remain sort of on the exact

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same scheduling track that this case is

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on of course the next stop on the

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scheduling track is to have that hearing

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where judge chuin says yay or nay with

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respect to all four of these charges and

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the evidence Jack Smith proposes to

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introduce to support or all four of

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these charges okay well obviously a lot

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to stay on top of here as this process

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continues to play itself out but some

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good news here some rare good news out

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