Four Perspectives: Native American Mascots

Kevin Hansen
10 Nov 201320:30

Summary

TLDRThe script discusses the controversy surrounding the use of American Indian mascots, particularly Chief Illiniwek of the University of Illinois and the Washington Redskins, highlighting differing perspectives on cultural heritage versus racial insult. It touches on the impact of such mascots on Native American identity and the debate over changing team names despite some polls suggesting a majority of Native Americans are not offended.

Takeaways

  • 🏈 The University of Illinois' mascot, Chief Illiniwek, has been a subject of controversy due to its representation of a fictitious American Indian character.
  • 👨‍👧‍👦 A Spokane Indian graduate student's children's reaction to Chief Illiniwek at a basketball game sparked her activism against the mascot, highlighting the impact on Native American children.
  • 🎭 The mascot was seen by some as a symbol of heritage and tradition, while others viewed it as a racial insult and mockery of Native American culture.
  • 📉 The debate over the mascot's imagery affected other institutions, with some universities and schools dropping American Indian symbols in response to concerns.
  • 💬 There is a division within the Native American community itself regarding the use of such mascots, with some polls suggesting a majority do not find them offensive, while others argue the impact on mental health and identity.
  • 🤝 The Big Ten Conference, including the universities of Wisconsin, Minnesota, and Iowa, took a stand against American Indian mascots, influencing the debate on political correctness and minority representation.
  • 💰 Financial contributions to the University of Illinois were threatened to be withheld if Chief Illiniwek was removed, indicating the economic implications of the mascot's potential removal.
  • 🏛️ A state representative proposed a law to protect Chief Illiniwek as the official symbol of the University, reflecting the political dimensions of the mascot debate.
  • 📰 Media coverage and public opinion are divided, with some supporting the retention of the mascot as a sign of respect and others calling for its removal as a form of racial slur.
  • 🔍 The Washington Redskins controversy parallels the Chief Illiniwek debate, with the team's name being defended by its owner and criticized by others as a racial insult.
  • 🤔 The complexity of the issue is underscored by the varying perspectives, including those who argue that changing the name of a sports team does not address deeper societal issues affecting Native American communities.

Q & A

  • What is the significance of Chief Illiniwek at the University of Illinois?

    -Chief Illiniwek has been a symbol of the University of Illinois for 70 years, performing at halftime of home football and basketball games, and serving as a unifying figure for the community, student body, and faculty.

  • Why did the Spokane Indian graduate student start to oppose Chief Illiniwek?

    -The graduate student began to oppose Chief Illiniwek after attending a basketball game with her children and realizing the mascot represented a racial stereotype that was inappropriate and offensive.

  • What was the initial reaction of the University of Illinois community to the opposition against Chief Illiniwek?

    -Some members of the community felt that Chief Illiniwek was a part of their heritage and tradition, and they did not see it as a racial insult or slur on the Native American community.

  • How did other universities respond to the use of American Indian mascots?

    -Some universities, such as Eastern Michigan, Southern Colorado, St. John's, Marquette, and Bradley University, dropped their Indian references and mascots in response to concerns about cultural appropriation and offense.

  • What was the reaction of the alumni to the potential removal of Chief Illiniwek?

    -Alumni reactions indicated that they would withhold financial contributions to the University without Chief Illiniwek, showing strong support for the mascot.

  • What action did state representative Rick Winkle take to protect Chief Illiniwek?

    -State representative Rick Winkle proposed a law that would guarantee Chief Illiniwek as the official symbol of the University of Illinois, in an attempt to preserve the mascot.

  • What is the controversy surrounding the name 'Washington Redskins'?

    -The name 'Washington Redskins' is considered by some as a racial slur and offensive to Native Americans, leading to debates about whether it should be changed.

  • What has been the stance of the Washington Redskins' owner, Daniel Snyder, on the name controversy?

    -Daniel Snyder has maintained a hard-line stance, insisting that the team name will never change, arguing that it represents strength, courage, pride, and respect.

  • What arguments have been made in favor of keeping the name 'Washington Redskins'?

    -Some argue that the name honors Native American heritage and that polls have shown that a majority of Native Americans do not find the name offensive.

  • What are the counterarguments to the claim that the majority of Native Americans are not offended by the name 'Washington Redskins'?

    -Critics argue that the polls may not be representative of all Native American opinions and that the use of the term is still a form of racial slur that contributes to negative stereotypes.

  • What is the broader implication of the debate on sports team mascots and names?

    -The debate reflects larger issues of cultural appropriation, respect for indigenous cultures, and the struggle for recognition and sensitivity towards minority communities.

Outlines

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🏟️ Controversy Over Native American Mascots

The script discusses the controversy surrounding the use of Chief Illiniwek, a fictitious American Indian character, as a mascot at the University of Illinois. The character has been part of the university's identity for 70 years, performing at halftime shows and uniting the community. However, the narrative shifts in 1989 when a Spokane Indian graduate's children are exposed to the mascot, leading her to question its appropriateness. The script explores differing viewpoints, from those who see the mascot as a source of pride and tradition to those who view it as a racial insult and a mockery of Native American culture.

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🔍 The Debate on Racial Mascotry in Sports

This paragraph delves into the broader debate on the use of racial mascots in sports, exemplified by the Washington Redskins. The script highlights the irony of the team's name and the public's desensitization to it. It also mentions other institutions that have dropped Native American references, while the University of Illinois remains steadfast. The pressure on the university increases as fellow Big Ten Conference members take a stand against such mascots. The script presents various perspectives, including alumni who threaten to withhold donations and a state representative who proposes a law to protect Chief Illiniwek. The debate is further complicated by the assertion that Native Americans themselves are divided on the issue.

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🗳️ Polls and Perceptions on the Redskins Name

The script presents a complex picture of public opinion regarding the Washington Redskins' name. It references polls suggesting that a significant number of self-identified Native Americans do not find the name offensive, which is used by some to argue against a name change. However, it also acknowledges that there are Native Americans who do take offense, and it questions the validity of polls that claim otherwise. The discussion includes commentary from sportscaster Bob Costas, who criticizes the name, and reactions from various media figures and politicians, reflecting a divided and evolving stance on the issue.

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💬 The Impact of Racial Slurs on Native American Youth

This paragraph focuses on the impact of racial slurs and mascots on the mental health of Native American youth. It includes input from the Native Youth Leadership Alliance, which suggests that such names contribute to depression among young people. The script contrasts this with arguments that the words 'take on a fence' and that historical usage of terms like 'redskins' was not inherently offensive. It also touches on the broader issue of political correctness and the need to balance respect for cultural sensitivities with freedom of speech.

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🤝 Potential Resolutions and the Future of the Redskins Name

The final paragraph speculates on the future of the Washington Redskins' name, considering the evolving stance of NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell and President Obama's comments. It suggests that a name change may be imminent, despite the team owner's strong opposition. The script proposes potential new names that could satisfy various stakeholders, highlighting the complexity of finding a solution that respects the feelings of all involved.

Mindmap

Keywords

💡Fighting Illini

The Fighting Illini is the nickname of the University of Illinois' athletic teams. In the script, it represents the home team that fans come to support. The term is central to the theme of the video, which discusses the use of American Indian imagery in sports mascots and its impact on cultural representation.

💡Chief Illiniwek

Chief Illiniwek was a fictitious American Indian character and mascot of the University of Illinois, known for dancing at halftime of home games. The character has been a point of controversy, as it is seen by some as a racial stereotype. The script discusses the changing perspectives on the mascot's role and its eventual discontinuation.

💡Mascot

A mascot is a character or symbol used to represent a team or organization, often to inspire team spirit. In the context of the video, the term is used to describe Chief Illiniwek and to explore the debate around the use of Native American imagery as mascots, which is a central theme of the video.

💡Heritage

Heritage refers to the traditions, culture, and history of a group of people that are passed down through generations. In the video, the concept of heritage is discussed in relation to the use of Chief Illiniwek as a mascot, with some arguing it honors Native American heritage while others see it as misappropriation.

💡Racial Insult

A racial insult is a derogatory term or action directed at a person or group based on their race or ethnicity. The script mentions the debate over whether the use of Chief Illiniwek as a mascot constitutes a racial insult, highlighting the differing viewpoints on cultural representation in sports.

💡Washington Redskins

The Washington Redskins was the name of a professional football team, which has since been changed due to controversy over the term 'Redskins' being considered a racial slur against Native Americans. The script uses this example to compare the debate over sports mascots and racial sensitivity in professional sports.

💡Political Correctness

Political correctness refers to the avoidance of expressions or actions that can be perceived to marginalize or offend certain groups of people. In the video, the term is used in the context of the debate over mascots like Chief Illiniwek and the Washington Redskins, where some argue that changing the mascots is an act of political correctness.

💡Cultural Sensitivity

Cultural sensitivity is the awareness and respect for the cultural differences of others. The script discusses the importance of cultural sensitivity in the context of sports mascots, emphasizing the need to consider the feelings and perspectives of the groups being represented.

💡Annenberg Public Policy Center

The Annenberg Public Policy Center is mentioned in the script as having conducted a poll regarding the Washington Redskins name. The center is an example of an organization that has weighed in on the debate, providing data that some use to argue for or against changing the team's name.

💡Bob Costas

Bob Costas is a sportscaster who is mentioned in the script for his commentary on the Washington Redskins name controversy. His stance on the issue represents a perspective within the media that supports changing the name due to its offensive nature.

💡Daniel Snyder

Daniel Snyder is the owner of the Washington Redskins (now changed) and is mentioned in the script for his refusal to change the team's name despite the controversy. His position represents one side of the debate, emphasizing the importance of tradition and the team's identity.

Highlights

Chief Illiniwek, a fictitious American Indian character, has been a symbol of the University of Illinois for 70 years.

The mascot's role in unifying the community and its popularity among fans is highlighted.

A Spokane Indian graduate student's experience with her children at a basketball game sparked a change in the dialogue around the mascot.

The emotional response and the sense of disrespect felt by some Native Americans towards the mascot are discussed.

Some view Chief Illiniwek as a heritage and tradition, not as a racial insult.

The debate over the mascot's impact on the perception of Native Americans in sports and media is presented.

The influence of the Washington Redskins controversy on the broader conversation about Native American mascots.

Different Native American groups and individuals express their opinions on the use of such mascots.

The economic impact of potential mascot changes on universities and professional sports teams is considered.

Political figures and the public debate the appropriateness of Native American mascots.

The role of alumni donations and their influence on university decisions regarding mascots is examined.

Efforts by some universities to drop Native American references in response to the controversy.

The Big Ten Conference's stance on American Indian mascots and its impact on the University of Illinois.

The proposal of a law to guarantee Chief Illiniwek as the official symbol, sparking further debate.

The Washington Redskins owner's defense of the team's name and the public's divided opinion.

Polls and surveys indicating varying degrees of offense taken by Native Americans regarding the term 'Redskins'.

The complexity of the issue as it relates to political correctness, heritage, and respect for Native American culture.

The potential for change in the name of the Washington Redskins as influenced by public figures and ongoing discussions.

Transcripts

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it's a fall Saturday afternoon at the

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University of Illinois right fans come

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from all around to support the home team

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the Fighting Illini and everywhere is

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the symbol of the University of Illinois

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a fictitious American Indian character

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called chief Illini Whitney chief

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Illiniwek has been part of the

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University of Illinois for 70 years

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dancing at halftime of home football and

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basketball games the chief has become a

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crowd favorite

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he's a focal point he draws the

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community the student body the faculty

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together I've seen the performance many

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many times and have found it nothing but

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inspiring little was heard from American

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Indians about their feelings on the

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chief but that all changed one night in

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1989 when a Spokane Indian graduate

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student and a mother of two was asked by

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her children to take them to a

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basketball game I got tickets to the

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game and I tried to prepare them ahead

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of time and what they were going to see

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there you know it's you know they have

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this Indian mascot as you know they were

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paint some people were feathers you know

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they have were chants they have you know

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or just try to go through all the things

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that they would experience there so you

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know you just have to ignore that you

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know just enjoy the game

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it was when the chief came out and I'd

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never seen him never stated before

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didn't know it all would it look like

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what he wore you know I just heard that

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the chief comes out and does what's

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billed as an authentic dad

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and he came out wearing that buckskin

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really a beautiful book skin wearing

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what looked like real eagle feathers all

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the way to the ground and of course the

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fans going to a frenzy and all around us

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there were these people standing in and

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see yelling the chief the chief you know

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and it was so you know my kids you know

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just sank in their seat and I knew that

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I couldn't be here and not address that

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issue so I started to stand outside

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alone you know because I didn't know

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what else to do I did that for my kids I

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was standing up for my kids

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I don't consider chief our light and

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what to be a mascot I consider it the

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chief to be a part of the heritage of in

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the tradition of this of this

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institution I can't imagine that that

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can be perceived as a as a racial insult

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or as a slur on the Native American

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community to me it's it's a compliment

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and I don't think the people here should

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cave in to out-of-state foreigners so

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you think that you think the Indian

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people are foreigners they're from

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Oklahoma I'm a taxpayer in Illinois they

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a taxpayer in the Illinois I pay my

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taxes in Illinois

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and I support the UI they come in from

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out of state and they don't support us

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they don't pay any taxes they shouldn't

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have any say here

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[Music]

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I see the mascot of symbolic display of

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our leadership that we control you we

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own you

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every time that was being paraded around

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I felt I had to also be there to

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challenge it if there was any other

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religious practice that was being abused

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we would hear about it the American

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Indian population is relatively small

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yet the popularity of Indian images and

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sports and on TV affects what many

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people know and think about Indians so

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to have a chief as entertainment at a

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sporting event is is a mockery and and

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and there's no way to get past this

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barrier that it's very difficult to get

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past this barrier that this isn't

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dignified just because he's not a

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character or whatever it's even it's

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even more of a mockery because he's not

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a character Church I think it would have

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been better if it was this cartoon

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character you know it might have been at

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least then you could laugh at as being

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stupid and ignorant you know and that's

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kind of maybe what I thought I was going

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to see out there is some caricature of

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the you know with a big head and a big

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nose or something then then it's obvious

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that it's you know this clown Charlene

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left the University of Illinois and

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moved on to continue her fight the first

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stop was the big money world of

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professional football in the Washington

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Redskins

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the irony of of the whole thing is here

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you have red skins which is the most

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blatant racist symbol term depiction

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right in the capital everybody it's kind

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of numb to it there are Redskins fans

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yeah I'm a fan

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so they've numbed themselves to that so

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much that you know you have these

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politicians who are supposed to

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represent all people saying I'm a

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Redskins fan some newspapers restricted

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or banned the use of the name Redskins

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[Music]

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in Minnesota the State Board of

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Education asked schools to stop using

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American Indian symbols and some

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universities were doing the same Eastern

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Michigan Southern Colorado st. John's

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Marquette and Bradley University all

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eventually dropped their Indian

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references yet the University of

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Illinois continued to hold firm but soon

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the pressure increased three fellow

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members of the Big Ten Conference the

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universities of Wisconsin Minnesota and

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Iowa decided to take a stand against

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American Indian mascots being

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politically correct to merely appease a

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minority group of individuals and is not

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in and of itself an appropriate position

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to take I think it's a matter of

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understanding how people feel about

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something they love and people love

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cheap the line away but we love our

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chief that's what they say of course you

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love him you manufactured him see that's

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not our image that's not our perception

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of ourselves it's their perception of

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who we are alumni reactions began to

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come in and the message seemed to be no

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money to the University without chief

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Illiniwek

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I'm sure that contributions would would

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diminish these people that I'm talking

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about or are very very generous

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contributors to the university all alone

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and in very very generous contributions

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poured into the university the

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recommendation from the inclusiveness

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committee was dropped according to a

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university spokesperson it was not an

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academic recommendation still one

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University alumnus decided to take

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control

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state representative Rick Winkle

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proposed a law that would guarantee

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chief Illiniwek as the official symbol

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of the University of Illinois we have a

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rich heritage in this country especially

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over the past few decades of protecting

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minority rights and I think that that's

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important that we continue to do that

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but minority rights aren't always right

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my people pay to their blood to have

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anything left and so I have to guard and

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protect it so that we have it for those

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generations yet unborn and I and I owe

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it to those I owe it to my children I

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owe it to myself

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you

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led her to Washington Redskins fans

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owners Daniel Snyder address what he

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believes is a sympathetic audience

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defending the name of the Redskins

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Snyder says it's who we are

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he writes Washington Redskins is more

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than a name we have called our football

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team for over eight decades it is a

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symbol of everything we stand for

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strength courage pride and respect the

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same values we know guide Native

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Americans and which are embedded

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throughout their rich history as the

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original Americans

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well one Native American group quickly

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responded by saying Snyder clearly does

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not understand the consequences here

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Stephen a I'll ask you this first cuz

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we're putting Daniel Snyder on the hook

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does it sound like he's willing to

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change the name at all it does not it

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does it didn't come across that way at

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all to me a matter of fact I thought

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that he made a case for keeping the name

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I think that the letter that he wrote

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you know I spoke to numerous guys

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remember I've got family and friends in

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the Washington DC area some of whom are

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Redskins fans that loved his letter to

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the fans they absolutely positively

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applauded it and so when you take that

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into consideration it doesn't come

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across as him making any move whatsoever

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towards modifying things and changing

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the team's name and eradicating Redskins

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from the football and the National

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Football League vernacular I got to tell

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you skip that for me it's incredibly

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challenging for me to continue to take

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the position that I've taken for so long

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and that is that this name should be

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changed obviously to some degree I still

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feel that way but I'm not Native

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American and when I read this letter

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it does provoke me and it does gives it

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gives me cause to pause because when you

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consider the fact that he's saying right

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here skip if you think about this right

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here I'm reading I got to let it right

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in front of me it's talking about how

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you know 81 years ago you know in 1932

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the team's name was the Boston Braves

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the following year the franchise was

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changed to the Boston Red skins on that

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inaugural Redskins team four players and

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I had coach when Native Americans then

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he goes on and say a little bit later

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that are the the Annenberg Public Policy

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Center poll nearly 1,000 self-identified

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Native American

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from across the continental US and found

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that 90% of Native Americans did not

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find the team name Washington Redskins

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to be offensive The Associated Press 79

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percent of the respondents from a 2013

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poll stated the Redskins should not

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change their name I mean I'm looking at

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this stuff a article in The Washington

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Post

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I'm sorry poor woody a comments for the

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Richmond times-dispatch interviewed

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Native Americans and you know from the

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infinitive virginia area that also

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didn't find that name offensive it does

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lend itself towards validating the

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position that daniel snyder has taken

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that you know what excuse me this this

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name is not offensive they themselves

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are saying it's not offensive see I was

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under the impression and I continue to

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some degree to believe that there are an

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abundance of Native Americans that

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vehemently find this to be an offensive

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label and as a result I my thinking is

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if it's offensive then something needs

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to be done about it because we live in a

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society where we're trying to eradicate

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all of that stuff and anything that's

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offensive to somebody somebody outside

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the offended party doesn't get to define

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what's offensive to that offended party

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but if Native Americans themselves are

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standing up and saying this is not

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offensive to us we take pride in the

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Washington Redskins name then that's a

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different argument so again I don't know

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if everything that daniel snyder wrote

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and has led it to the fans is true but

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if it is true and Native Americans

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themselves a vast majority of them are

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saying this is not offensive then I even

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though I still AM I'm still a bit shaky

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about it skip it's hard for me to stand

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up vehemently proclaiming that it is

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something that the Washington Redskins

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need to change if indeed Native

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Americans are out there saying it

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doesn't need to be changed because I'm

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not a Native American I don't know

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engine Redskins change their name

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because some say it is racist

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sportscaster Bob Costas today took to

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the editorial page of the LA Times to

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defend his recent attack on the team

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here are his original remarks during

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halftime last Sunday Redskins can't

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possibly honor a heritage or a noble

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character trait nor can it possibly be

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considered a neutral term it's an insult

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a slur no matter how benign the

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present-day intent dana loesch is a

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conservative radio talk show host and

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Richard Fowler is hosted the progressive

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radio show the Richard Fowler show thank

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you both so much for being here so Dana

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let me start with you because you

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actually do have Native American

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heritage your thoughts on it yeah and

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Meghan it always seems that the people

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who are the the most far removed from

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this are the ones who want to talk about

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it the loudest in terms of being close

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to American Indian culture there was a

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2004 Annenberg poll which was released

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and it was they polled American Indians

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and 90 plus percent of them had no

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problem with this sports team name and

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it bothers me because every single time

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we talk about American Indian issues and

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I don't know my family has heritage and

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they were listed on the rolls and they

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were moved on the trail of genocide over

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to reservations but whenever it seems we

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talk about these issues it's always like

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some politically correct cosmetic

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band-aid we're never talking about

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suicide rates we're not talking about

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addictions we're not talking about

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unemployment in the American Indian

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community we're talking about stuff like

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this I mean changing the name of a

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football team isn't going to do anything

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to remedy years of bad policy and all of

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the things that are wrong with what's

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plaguing these particular people

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castas came out today and doubled down

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on that that commentary and he was

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responding in part to an opinion piece

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written by Jonah Goldberg of National

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Review Online and he and and Jonah said

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look if you're gonna get rid of

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Washington Redskins better be prepared

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to get rid of a whole bunch of things

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including he said how about getting rid

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of the sea in n-double-a-cp right

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because like that's colored and that's

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now considered racist as well I mean

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your thoughts on that Richard I got to

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tell you thanks for having me one Meghan

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but I got to agree on one point here

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that Dana makes is the point that the

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Native American community in

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indigenous people community has taken

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has had a lot of struggle and a lot of

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strife but there's a lot of native

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Native Americans who believe that we

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need to check that the Redskins need to

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change their name I reached out to the

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Native youth leadership Alliance and

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they indicated that this name and these

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type of racial slurs and connotations

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have caused depression issues amongst

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Native youth and I think we've got to

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work on correcting that now I think

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there's a distinction between taking the

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word colored out of the n-double a-c-p

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and using a racial slur to describe a

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football team and i think that is the

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argument that a lot of folks are trying

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to make and I think that's the argument

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the Bob Costas is trying to make when he

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released his art his op-ed today but his

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point Dana jonna's is that you know the

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words take on a fence if you make them

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take on a fence I mean for years in this

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country we said and and nobody

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knew that was gonna be offensive

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and then suddenly little people decided

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that that was an offensive term and now

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you're no longer allowed to say that

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because it's offensive I mean it depends

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on who he asking when you ask him well

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yeah and especially when you look at the

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historical use of this term I mean this

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was a term there was a book out from one

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of the senior linguists over at the

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Smithsonian Institute it's called I am a

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and it charts how that term came

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to be how that came to be an American

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expression and it was a term that

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actually came from Native Americans and

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it was first recorded by French traders

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and they heard American Indians using

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this phrase amongst themselves Sitting

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Bull himself said I am a red man the

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Great Spirit had intended me to be a

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white man he would have made me there

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are a number of different Indian tribes

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that have come out and said we don't

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have a problem with this the people who

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have a problem with this are people like

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Bob Costas and they're people like these

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white anglo-saxon Protestant liberals

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whenever whenever these issues come up

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about American Indians everybody wants

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to talk about political correctness

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so this Washington Redskins nickname

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debate it just won't go away so let's

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talk about it now with Terrence Moore

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he's a sports contributor to cnn.com and

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a columnist for mlb.com Terrance NFL

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Commissioner Roger Goodell seems to be

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evolving on this in the past he has

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defended the name but this week Goodell

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said we need to listen carefully listen

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and make sure we're doing what's right

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and President Obama even weighed in and

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told the AP that if he owned the team he

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think about changing the name so

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Terrence is it now just a matter of time

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before the name Redskins goes away well

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let's start with this when you have the

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most powerful person on the world saying

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they should change the name that's Roger

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Goodell no actually Barack Obama and the

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second most powerful man on the face of

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the earth the Commissioner of the NFL

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perhaps and Roger Goodell saying that he

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thinks they should consider it is going

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to get done and and I'll tell you what

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Don this is somewhat analogous to what

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you've been dealing with the last few

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weeks with the government shutdown right

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now

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whereas daniel snyder who is the risky

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ins owner it's sort of like the house

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republicans is not a matter of if he's

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going to change the name as a matter of

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when it's gonna happen and how it's

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gonna happen

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hmm Redskins owner Dan Snyder told USA

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Today that the team would never and he

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said you can use capital letter said

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never change its name I mean you just

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said it's a matter of when but you think

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he's gonna eat his words yeah I mean

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because I mean NEVER is a very very

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strong word you know and and Daniel

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Snyder is taking this hard-line stance

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in the past you know similar to like

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George Wallace standing in front of that

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that schooled or fifty years ago and now

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he's kind of evolved into a sort of a a

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kind of gentler type stance and we just

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a few days ago Snyder just said that he

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can understand why people would be be

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upset that he could sympathize with them

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so you could see some movement even with

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Dan Snyder hmm okay sand just the

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Redskins in Dallas play later tonight

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correct that's true

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so what could they change their name to

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that would that would make at least some

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fans happy I mean the Warriors the

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Senators yeah well you know it's got to

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think what would please Daniel Snyder

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and remember all these guys

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these NFL owners they have huge egos so

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I'm serious when I say this down they

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should change the name and name them

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after daniel snyder call him the

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washington Snyder's okay and for anybody

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out there who's laughing remember

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there's a precedent for this Yeah right

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but in the National Football League I

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mean you got the Cleveland Browns and

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the Browns were named after their

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original owner Paul Brown so just do it

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call it a day and everybody's happy yeah

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it's a tough one because if if a certain

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group of people are offended by

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something then you should probably

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respect what they have to say if Native

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Americans are offended by this and we

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should that's exactly right and people

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always say well done how would you feel

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I've been asked this question before how

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would you feel if it was the black skins

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or the brown skins

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I'm not easily offended that wouldn't

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offend me because I have brown skin and

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in the summer I have black skin so none

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of that would offend me but red skins

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might offend Native Americans and we

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should be mindful and respect sure no

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course what about

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