Is WWE Going to Buy TNA? | Your Comments | The Wrestling Rewind #174đïž| Clip
Summary
TLDRIn this wrestling-themed discussion, the hosts explore the hypothetical scenario of WWE purchasing TNA, focusing on the implications for TNA's identity and financial stability rather than a crossover event. They consider the impact of Hulk Hogan's past with TNA and the importance of maintaining TNA's independence. Listeners weigh in with their opinions, and the hosts agree that WWE's involvement would likely be subtle, aiming to preserve TNA's distinct brand while ensuring its survival, reflecting the value of competition in the wrestling industry.
Takeaways
- đ€ The main question discussed is whether WWE would buy TNA, specifically in a way that doesn't involve a complete takeover or crossover.
- đ Michael Burns believes TNA is looking for its own identity after the Hulk Hogan incident and wouldn't want a WWE buyout.
- đŁ Hulk Hogan's involvement with TNA had a significant negative impact, changing the company's direction and causing problems.
- đŒ The conversation suggests that TNA might be more focused on maintaining its independence rather than a financial rescue by WWE.
- đą There's a hint that the corporate structure and shareholders might play a role in TNA's decisions, not just the wrestling aspect.
- đ€ The hosts agree that if a deal happens, it would likely be subtle, keeping TNA as a separate entity with occasional crossovers.
- đ Mike Jones' comment about Anthem's purchase of Nvidia FC is used as a comparison for a possible WWE-TNA relationship.
- đĄ The idea of WWE buying a majority stake in TNA without a public announcement is floated as a way to maintain TNA's independence.
- đ„ Mention of TNA talents like Jordan, Grace, and Joe Henry having success in WWE, suggesting a symbiotic relationship.
- đ The importance of competition and different wrestling styles for the growth and health of the wrestling industry is emphasized.
- đ The final takeaway is about the value of TNA to WWE and AEW, and the desire to avoid TNA folding, highlighting the benefits of having multiple wrestling companies.
Q & A
What is the main topic of discussion in the transcript?
-The main topic of discussion is the possibility of WWE buying TNA (Total Nonstop Action Wrestling) and the implications of such a purchase.
What does 'buying TNA' mean in the context of the discussion?
-Buying TNA in this context refers to WWE potentially purchasing TNA, providing financial support, and allowing TNA to operate independently without major changes to its identity.
What was Hulk Hogan's impact on TNA according to the transcript?
-Hulk Hogan's arrival at TNA led to significant changes, including altering the entrance music, the ring itself, and the overall production style, fundamentally changing what TNA was at the time.
What is the opinion of Michael Burns 734 regarding WWE buying TNA?
-Michael Burns 734 believes that WWE will not buy TNA, as TNA is looking for its own identity after the Hulk Hogan incident.
What is the Hulk Hogan scenario mentioned in the transcript?
-The Hulk Hogan scenario refers to a period in TNA's history when Hulk Hogan joined the company and made drastic changes that negatively affected TNA's identity.
Why might WWE be interested in TNA according to the discussion?
-WWE might be interested in TNA to ensure it doesn't fold, to have a separate entity that can operate independently, and to maintain the value of TNA as a wrestling brand.
What is the significance of the six-sided ring in TNA's identity?
-The six-sided ring was a unique feature of TNA that distinguished it from other wrestling promotions and was removed during the Hulk Hogan era, symbolizing a loss of identity.
What is the role of Jeremy Borash in the wrestling industry mentioned in the transcript?
-Jeremy Borash is mentioned as being backstage as an agent, having a significant impact on booking matches and contributing to the success of wrestlers in both WWE and TNA.
What is the importance of competition in wrestling according to the transcript?
-Competition in wrestling is important as it provides different styles and alternatives, preventing the industry from becoming too homogenized and offering wrestlers opportunities to learn and grow.
What is the final point made about the value of TNA to WWE in the transcript?
-The final point is that WWE recognizes the value of TNA and its talent, and that having TNA as a separate entity can be beneficial without the need for a public purchase or major changes.
Outlines
đ€ Speculation on WWE's Potential Purchase of TNA
The script opens with a discussion on the hypothetical scenario of WWE buying TNA (Total Nonstop Action Wrestling). It explores the idea of WWE providing financial support without significant creative control, allowing TNA to maintain its identity. Listener feedback suggests skepticism about such a deal, especially considering TNA's struggle to establish its own identity following the controversial involvement of Hulk Hogan. The conversation also touches on the impact of Hogan's changes to TNA, including altering the entrance music and ring setup, and the general consensus is that TNA would not want to repeat such a disruptive experience, even with WWE's financial backing.
đ The Business Side of Wrestling: Possible WWE-TNA Relations
This paragraph delves into the business aspects of a potential WWE-TNA relationship. It suggests that WWE might acquire a majority stake in TNA, leveraging the fact that TNA is not publicly traded to keep the deal discreet. The discussion points out that such a move could benefit both parties, with TNA gaining financial stability and WWE expanding its influence without directly managing TNA's operations. The paragraph also references the importance of TNA's independence in maintaining its unique identity and the value of having alternative wrestling styles, using the example of how wrestlers like Naomi and Trinity have evolved through their experiences in different wrestling organizations.
đ The Value of TNA to WWE and the Wrestling Landscape
The final paragraph wraps up the conversation by emphasizing the value of TNA to WWE and the wrestling industry as a whole. It argues against the idea of TNA folding, suggesting that its existence provides WWE with a valuable resource for talent and alternative content. The paragraph also touches on the mismanagement of other wrestling organizations like the NWA and the importance of learning from different wrestling styles to avoid stagnation. It concludes with an invitation for listeners to share their thoughts on social media platforms and a reflection on the passion for wrestling discussions among fans.
Mindmap
Keywords
đĄWWE
đĄTNA
đĄHulk Hogan
đĄSeed Money
đĄCrossover
đĄECW
đĄNvidia
đĄPay-Per-Views (PPVs)
đĄWCW
đĄCompetition
Highlights
The discussion revolves around the hypothetical scenario of WWE potentially buying TNA, not for a crossover or invasion, but possibly providing financial support.
Listener Michael Burns 734 believes WWE will not buy TNA, as TNA is seeking its own identity post-Hulk Hogan controversy.
The Hulk Hogan incident had a significant negative impact on TNA's identity, changing many aspects of the company's presentation.
TNA's financial struggles are a concern, and WWE's involvement could alleviate those issues without major changes to TNA's operations.
The corporate structure of TNA may involve stakeholders beyond the wrestling company itself, complicating any potential buyout.
A possible comparison is made to how Anthem Sports & Entertainment (ASE) handled the acquisition of an MMA company, suggesting a similar approach for TNA.
WWE's past attempts at reviving or acquiring other wrestling companies like ECW and WCW have not been successful, indicating the challenges of such a move.
TNA has been able to maintain a separate identity and operations, which could be beneficial in a potential partnership with WWE.
The discussion suggests that if a buyout were to happen, it would likely be a quiet, behind-the-scenes deal rather than a public spectacle.
TNA's non-publicly traded status could facilitate a discreet acquisition by WWE or a related entity.
The value of TNA is recognized in its ability to provide an alternative style and competition in the wrestling industry.
WWE's main eventers now include many former TNA wrestlers, highlighting the impact TNA has had on the industry.
TNA's influence is seen in the booking and reception of matches in WWE, with former TNA talents contributing to well-received segments.
The fear for WWE might be in ensuring that TNA doesn't collapse and can continue to provide value as an alternative wrestling entity.
The conversation ends with a call to action for listeners to share their thoughts on the topic through various social media platforms.
Transcripts
basically we posed the question laid out
scenario will WWE buy TNA and and by by
buy TNA we mean you know purchase them
in the background or give them a bunch
of seed money and just kind of leave
them off their own way we're not talking
about a you know crossover or an
invasion or any of that kind of thing um
but here's what some of our listeners
had to say so um uh Michael Burns 734
says not a chance Michael of all the 730
five Michaels the 734th one was always
my favorite uh not a chance to believe
we have TNA uh TNA is looking for its
own identity after the whole Hulk Hogan
thing which I get I mean I would kind of
be of the same opinion um as that like
the The Hulk Hogan scenario was truly
horrendous uh Martin I don't think
you've seen a lot of hul Hogan stuff
have you um I've seen what like uh what
we've covered but I obviously as a
resident TNA historian I haven't seen it
to the same extent as yourself yeah I I
had to live it and I'm no rush to live
it again but yeah basically so when so
what Michael's saying here is when when
Hulk Hogan came in he did fundamentally
wiped TNA he uh he changed the entrance
music changed the entrance itself got
rid of the six-sided ring changed the
way it was done the way it was produced
it fundamentally wasn't TNA when he
showed up um and it was Bishoff as well
that was there so it wasn't just wasn't
just Hulk Hogan um so I do understand
that I I don't think TNA would do that
even if WWE were to bite them what we're
saying is they won't um they won't come
in Whole Hog and change everything what
yeah what what what we believe if this
was to happen is that TNA would be doing
its own thing but won't have to worry
about money per se which is a problem
that TNA has had in in the
past yeah but obvious other thing to
remember is that TNA is not really
just TNA anymore like the so we're today
we're going to talk about the um who
killed
WCW documentary and yeah like one of the
big aspects of that was the kind of
non-wrestling side of the company you
know the TD Executives and the people
who had shareholders and all that so it
might not actually be de to
TNA um to make a
decision uh but what I would say is I I
completely agree with Dara if it does
happen I don't think it'll be like a
like an outright uh public purchase or
anything I think uh much like they used
to do with ECW in the past they'll keep
up the pretense that TNA is a separate
entity and we' see the occasional
crossovers like we have with the Jordan
Grace and obviously Joe
Henry say his name and he appears he
appears to L though I go to bed every
night I shout it out and he never
appears no he's there he's there
watching
watching but yeah no because it's
interesting right because on that point
Martin uh Mike Jones
483 made a very good point which kind of
ties into that he says answer no but
check out what anom did did with Nvidia
FC and you'll get your answer so I
looked into it and Nvidia was actually
sold to Anthem Nvidia are um a female
only uh MMA um company you know and yeah
they're kind of off in their own sphere
and that's kind of what we were saying
we were saying that because Anem is
already very much um connected to WWE
from you know in the TKO side of stuff
that's what we were kind of angling at I
don't think like for one moment I don't
think you know WWE running TNA is the
answer that's silly we've seen that
before we've seen it with with ECW like
the WWE ECW we've seen it when they
tried to do WCW uh it just doesn't work
you know people reject it but I do think
having having that kind of deal is
exactly what we were talking about on
the podcast where yeah TNA is off on its
own it's doing its own thing it's it
it's maybe touring having some
pay-per-views or ples as they call them
as well I mean that that's a huge sign
right there right um no they are TNA
calling them that now yeah they are yeah
oh God and you said it wouldn't change
them well it's it's not them it's as you
said it's the the corporate structure
right um so yeah
I I I I agree with that and I I will
still say that if we do get this it'll
be a thing that it's a foot it's a
footnote somewhere it won't be huge
announcement obviously it'll be in the
trades or something like that but I
don't think it would be a a
gamechanging thing here's how you do it
right WWE buys or TKO buys majority
stock or stake I don't think TNA are
publicly traded I could be wrong an
the fact that they're not publicly tra I
think the fact that they're not publicly
traded might make the whole thing easier
to um yes it would kind of keep under
wraps secret yeah yeah like that that's
that's kind of why I'm I'm dancing
around this here if TNA is publicly
traded which I don't think they are um
this would have to be announced
immediately because it's not they can
just bite them and go look it's part of
the deal you don't tell anybody you know
we just give you money
we were able to set up certain things
that we want to do like having Jordan
Grace Joe Henry Frankie Kazarian was
there as well I mean everybody forgot
about Frankie gazarian which I feel bad
about but it was like he was there too
he's a massive TNA star and uh yeah like
I just and former a like you think
they'd make a big deal out of that but
again it just shows you that like this
this thing does go deeper than just a
work in relationship like obviously um
NXT is their feeder brand but one of the
complaints that they've had about NXT is
that it doesn't give them as much
exposure it it's limited in a certain
way and then again like TNA is there
they're touring they are doing their own
TV it can get like look at Trinity or
Naomi right I was not a fan of Naomi in
WWE initially right I thought she was
fun as the funk at axles and when I saw
her wrestle in glasg
after watching her um on before going to
the house show or before going to the
tap I was like right she's like a
different she's like a different person
totally different woman totally
different person I I wasn't at the
Glasgow show with Dara but I watched the
um the taping that they did in England
before they went up to Glasgow yes
totally different woman but that's what
won me over I was like oh my God her
working with TNA has rebuilt her into
this actual main eventor like a Bonafide
Main aventor and I think here this is
this is the reason any wrestling fan out
there who wants you know such and such a
company today or such and such a company
to be the only one is an idiot wrestling
needs
competition Alternatives it's not even
that needs Alternatives of competition I
agree with you on that but it needs
different styles you know like if you've
read Chris Jericho's book look Chris
Jericho modern Chris sorry modern Chris
Jericho is is a different man to you
know Y2J but his book is is quite a good
template where he'd move
around go to Mexico go to Japan WCW ECW
WWE and they get to learn different
things learning the WWE style in and of
itself is bad you telling me that you
have sat Under The Learning
Tree but learning the WWE style
necessarily isn't a bad thing but when
it's the only thing you have that's very
limiting right and it's it's you know I
don't think
that's what you know we've seen that WWE
can't do that right like the main
eventors that they have now are all TNA
guys even in aw a lot of the main
avenders are TNA guys you know it's it's
actually it's it's a a point you'd made
on a different show we done that um the
final revenge of TNA was that top gays
and the two main companies
are TNA gays now even if TNA not get the
credits and their
agents you know Jeremy borash is is
backstage book as an
agent ays is backstage as an agent you
know that's great yeah all these guys
are are there quite well has booked some
of like the WWE's best received matches
he absolutely has CU he had some of
TNA's best matches as well and it it's
cool that I think
WWE finally gets the value of TNA you
know and and aw of course does as well
but it it it to me and we'll close on
we'll close on this segment down on this
to me it just doesn't make any sense to
risk having TNA fold when they have when
they can be like right we can actually
use this this has value compare we were
joking about the NWA before we went on
the NWA has no value it's a complete
joke of a company right um and it's pity
because it had such like a prestigious
name for a long time but but
mismanagement that that weird
pay-per-view angle that we talked about
with the the the cocaine and you it's
like for no reason and you know one of
the young ones like these days cocaine
and we're not joking folks that that
happened on on TV for some reason and it
cost them the TV deal um you
know I think WWE's fear is here right
we're working with our people you know
we're we're opening this we're bringing
people they're like we got to make sure
okay we're not going to strangle them to
death which is what fce would have done
but we have to make sure there's some
kind of like you know some kind of guard
rail so we don't have a random cocaine
segment or we don't you know something
like that where where it nobody looks
good from it all the things we've seen
Vince do over the years that's where I
draw the line
folks a random cocaine
segment but that's why I think they're
doing it they want to have some stronger
control on or not even control just
Assurance is that like right if we book
Joe Henry he's not going to get injured
he's actually going to show up and and
be very well received it's the highest
rate that
segment that that segment is the highest
rated
I social media clip in history of WWE
here where to go who is having a better
20124 and Joe
Henry nobody man I said I said killing
it I said it to
you when I saw that gimmick
live this I that is the greatest
gimmick of all time and it is it's just
it I don't know why it works it just
works so well
um but
look that that that's what we think
that's what our listeners think guys if
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