Como criar o hábito da leitura - Leandro karnal
Summary
TLDRThe speaker discusses the suitability of Brazilian literature for school curriculums, questioning the complexity of themes in Machado de Assis' works for younger readers. They advocate for engaging young people with contemporary contexts and suggest starting with shorter, more accessible works like chronicles and classic stories to pique interest. The speaker emphasizes the importance of gradually building up to more challenging literature, such as 'The Divine Comedy' and Shakespeare's plays, to enhance readers' cultural understanding and critical thinking skills.
Takeaways
- 📚 The speaker critiques the adoption of Machado de Assis' works in Brazilian primary schools due to their complex themes and language.
- 🌐 The speaker suggests that the appropriateness of literature in education depends on the context and maturity of the readers.
- 🔑 The analogy of homeopathy is used to emphasize that the right dosage of challenging literature is crucial for young readers.
- 📈 The speaker advocates for introducing young readers to contemporary and engaging contexts to foster interest in literature.
- 📖 The speaker recommends starting with short stories and gradually moving to more complex works as the reader matures.
- 🎭 The speaker highlights the importance of experiencing theater, like Shakespeare's plays, both in reading and watching to fully appreciate them.
- 📈 The speaker suggests that reading challenging works like 'The Brothers Karamazov' and 'Crime and Punishment' can be life-transforming.
- 🏞️ The speaker encourages readers to explore the roots of culture through foundational works like 'The Divine Comedy'.
- 📚 The speaker acknowledges the difficulty of certain books, like 'Finnegans Wake', and the personal growth that comes with attempting to read them.
- 🌟 The speaker emphasizes that while some books may be challenging, they offer rich rewards and contribute to a deeper understanding of the world.
Q & A
What is the speaker's opinion on Machado de Assis' works being used in Brazilian primary schools?
-The speaker believes that Machado de Assis' works, while dealing with complex themes and employing a direct yet challenging language, might not be entirely suitable for young students due to the thematic complexity.
According to the speaker, what is the key difference between a remedy and a poison?
-The speaker quotes the founder of homeopathy, Dr. Samuel Hahnemann, suggesting that the difference between a remedy and a poison is the dose.
What does the speaker suggest as an approach to engage young readers?
-The speaker recommends using contemporary and interesting contexts to attract young readers, implying that the content should be relevant and engaging to their lives.
Which short story by Machado de Assis is mentioned as being over 100 years old but still fascinating?
-The short story mentioned is 'The Man Who Knew How to Speak Japanese'.
What is the speaker's view on the accessibility of 'The Divine Comedy' for readers?
-The speaker suggests that 'The Divine Comedy' is one of the great adventures in literature but implies it may not be accessible to all readers due to its depth and complexity.
Why does the speaker recommend starting with Shakespeare's plays like 'Romeo and Juliet'?
-The speaker recommends starting with plays like 'Romeo and Juliet' because they are more accessible and can be appreciated through watching well-made films before reading the actual texts.
What strategy does the speaker use to approach challenging books like 'Finnegans Wake'?
-The speaker attempted to read 'Finnegans Wake' twice but gave up both times, indicating that it's a difficult book that requires improvement in reading skills to fully understand.
What does the speaker suggest about reading Dostoevsky's works?
-The speaker suggests that Dostoevsky's works, such as 'The Brothers Karamazov' and 'Crime and Punishment', are life-transforming and highly expressive, implying they are worth the effort to read despite their length and depth.
How does the speaker feel about reading 'Ulysses' by James Joyce?
-The speaker views 'Ulysses' as not as challenging as 'Finnegans Wake', suggesting it is more accessible in terms of language and narrative perspective.
What advice does the speaker give regarding the reading journey from youth to maturity?
-The speaker advises starting with shorter, more structured stories and gradually moving to more complex works as one's reading maturity and 'arsenal' grow.
Outlines
📚 Book Selection for Brazilian Schools
The speaker discusses the appropriateness of two books adopted in Brazilian schools, expressing a critical view towards Machado de Assis' works being taught at the fundamental level. They argue that themes like adultery, metaphysical skepticism, and the portrayal of characters like a fortune-teller and the 'Church of the Devil' might create a distance for young readers. The language, despite being direct with short sentences and paragraphs, could be challenging for its themes. The speaker then references the founder of homeopathy, suggesting that context and interesting narratives can attract young readers. They propose starting with contemporary and engaging stories before moving on to more complex works like 'The Divine Comedy' and 'Crime and Punishment', emphasizing the importance of a gradual approach to literary maturity.
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Keywords
💡Machado de Assis
💡Homeopathy
💡Contemporary Contexts
💡Chronicle
💡Fascinating Stories
💡19th Century Literature
💡Cultural Heritage
💡Accessibility
💡Theater
💡Life-Changing Works
💡Difficult Books
Highlights
The discussion is about the appropriateness of two books adopted in Brazilian schools for young readers.
Criticism of Machado de Assis' works being used in elementary education due to complex themes and language.
Machado de Assis' works are described as having a certain distance from the world, with a direct yet challenging language for young readers.
The analogy that the difference between a remedy and a poison is the dose, suggesting the importance of context and amount in literature.
Recommendation to attract young readers with contemporary and interesting contexts in literature.
Suggestion to start with short stories to engage readers who have never read the classics.
Recommendation of 'Conquistas' and 'Ótimos' as fascinating short stories that are over 100 years old but still relevant.
Advocacy for reading 'The Alienist' by Machado de Assis as a well-structured and expanded short story.
The idea that as readers mature, they can explore the roots of culture through works like 'The Divine Comedy'.
Emphasis on the accessibility of 'Emilia' by Neide and 'De Sucesso' as great adventures in literature.
The challenge of reading plays, suggesting starting with watching well-made films before reading the plays.
Recommendation to read 'Romeo and Juliet' and 'A Midsummer Night's Dream' by Shakespeare as they are plays meant to be seen.
The transformative power of works like 'The Brothers Karamazov' and 'Crime and Punishment' on people's lives.
Suggestion to read 'In Search of Lost Time' by Marcel Proust, which, despite its length, offers a rich reading experience.
The struggle and eventual decision to read 'Finnegans Wake' in English after an initial attempt in translation.
The acknowledgment that some books are inherently difficult, like 'Finnegans Wake', and the need to improve as a reader to tackle them.
The importance of not being afraid to face challenging literature, as it can lead to personal growth and a deeper understanding of the world.
Transcripts
dois livros adotados nas escolas
brasileiras são adequados na sua visão
por exemplo eu sempre fiz uma crítica
machado de assis no ensino fundamental
machado de assis trata de um certo mille
zero
trata de temas como adultério trata de
uma sunset ceticismo diante da
perspectiva metafísica do mundo contas
como a cartomante a igreja do diabo
contas como um pai contra mãe é um dos
últimos pontos dele
todos trazem um certo distanciamento do
mundo com uma linguagem que apesar de
ser muito direta com frases curtas e
parágrafos curtos
é um pouco difícil para os jovens não
pela linguagem mais pela temática
então como diz o fundador da homeopatia
doutor alemã
a diferença entre o remédio eo veneno é
a dose então eu tenho que atrair os
jovens contextos muito contemporâneas e
muito interessantes de crentes eu nunca
falei o que você acha que por onde
começa alguém que nunca leu e nem aos
maior da xinhua que poderia é contaminar
uma crônica curta de um governo
orçamentou zhu como luis fernando
verissimo uma crônica clássica de
fernando sabino uma crônica clássica que
traga uma história curta seduzido leitor
para um texto bom e curto eu seduziria
para contos nós temos contos fabuloso
conquistas e ótimos só pra imaginar que
um conto o homem que sabia que falava
japonês é um conto que já tem mais 100
anos praticamente e é continua
fascinante então atual do atual
depois disso um livro curto mais do
século 19 fácil de ler um conto bem
estruturado mais expandido como o
alienista de machado
feito isso eu começo a essas aventuras
maiores e depois que você atinge a
maturidade como leitor e tem um certo
arsenal aí vamos em busca das fontes da
cultura por exemplo a divina comédia
por exemplo em neide por exemplo de
sucesso são grandes aventuras não são
acessíveis para todos xx pré mais
acessível como eu jurei ler teatro não é
tão fácil mas ver o teatro é bom
shakespeare escreveu peças para serem
vistas então romeu julieta pra começar a
chegar ao ramo é de que a maior das
peças são 4.500 versus então você tem um
tempinho mais para isso mas como e
julieta sonho de uma noite de verão
começa vendo filmes bem feito sobre isso
depois leia depois ver você vai passar a
ver o mundo de uma forma distinta e você
descobre o tempo que você perdeu ou seja
músicas tempos a perdendo outras coisas
e aí você pode por exemplo ir em gente
como dostoiévski dois romances os irmãos
karamázov e crime e castigo
são obras que transformam a vida das
pessoas e obras às vezes muito curtas
como os contos de carro uma colônia
penal por exemplo o veredito obras mais
expressivas a montanha mágica do mano
tudo isso vai lhe dando uma estrutura
maior para você enfrenta sempre haverá
um livro difícil como já escrevi
tentei ler duas vezes finnegans wake
plus as duas vezes desiste a meu favor
na segunda vez foi mais longe mas eles
assim não é hora eu preciso melhorar
como leitor
pra isso naquela época eu disse não
entendi finnegan's 8 e tem um pouco de
medo de quem enfrente a mesma coisa
aconteceu com eles não lhes foi uma
leitura que me seduziu eu li primeiro a
tradução do antônio houaiss
depois eu li que havia questões
importantes naquela produção que podiam
ser batida então decidi ler em inglês
mas o ulisses não é um livro desafiador
na linguagem do livro desafiador na
perspectiva subjetiva do passeio de um
sujeito
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