【人生を変える対談】英語の最強学習法!を教える『ニック兄さん・ネイティブ英会話』
Summary
TLDRこのビデオスクリプトでは、言語沉浸学習法の重要性とその効果について語られています。英語学習者に対して、日本語の影響を排除し、英語のメディアコンテンツに曝露することで、自然な言語能力を身につけることが推奨されています。さらに、アクティブな沉浸と受動的な沉浸の両方を活用し、言語学習を効果的に進める方法が紹介されています。また、社会的な動態を理解することの重要性も強調され、異なる文化でのコミュニケーションのスキルを身につけるためのアドバイスが提供されています。
Takeaways
- 😀 言語を学ぶには、幼児のように自然な環境に身を置くことが重要。
- 📚 成人向けの言語学習は、文法や単語の勉強から始まりますが、実際に言語を習得するには没入型学習が効果的。
- 🌐 没入型学習とは、日常生活の中で英語を聞くこと。例えば、日本語のメディアを避け、英語のメディアに没頭すること。
- 👂 パッシブ没入は、家事や通勤中など、単純な作業中に英語を聴く方法。
- 👀 アクティブ没入は、画面を見ながら英語の番組を視聴し、字幕を活用して学ぶ方法。
- 🔍 アクティブ没入では、わからない単語や文法をたまに調べることで、より深く学びます。
- 📈 言語学習は、学習(study)、入力(input)、出力(output)、そして社会的な動作(social dynamics)の4ステップからなる。
- 🤝 社会的な動作を学ぶことで、異なる文化でのコミュニケーション能力が向上します。
- 🌟 学習言語は人生にポジティブな影響を与え、新しい扉を開く可能性があります。
- 📚 学習言語は、数学のように異なる人には異なる方法が必要なものではなく、没入型学習は誰にとっても同じ方法で有効。
- 🎓 学習言語は、短期間の集中的な没入型学習ではなく、長期にわたる継続的な努力が必要です。
- 📺 没入型学習コースは、英語を学ぶための新しいアプローチで、効果的な学習方法を提供しています。
Q & A
ビデオの主なテーマは何ですか?
-ビデオの主なテーマは言語の没入法と、第二言語、第三言語を学ぶメリットに関連しています。
没入法とはどのような学習方法ですか?
-没入法とは、日常的にその言語を話す人々から得る言語の入力を通じて言語を学ぶ方法です。例えば、英語を学ぶ場合、アメリカ英語、オーストラリア英語のコンテンツを日本語字幕なしで見ることを意味します。
没入法を始めるにあたって、最初のステップは何ですか?
-最初のステップは言語の勉強です。文法や単語を学び、基本的な構造を身につけることから始めます。
没入法の利点は何ですか?
-没入法の利点は、自然な環境下で言語を学ぶことができることです。これにより、言語の習得がより効果的で、実際のコミュニケーション能力を高めるのに役立ちます。
子供たちが英語を学ぶための没入法のアドバイスは何ですか?
-子供たちに英語のコンテンツを常に提供し、テレビやアニメ、音楽などすべて英語で提供することで、彼らは自然と英語を習得するでしょう。
言語学習における「出力」とは何を意味しますか?
-「出力」とは、言語を学んだ後、実際に話したり書いたりするアクティビティを指します。これは言語能力を高めるために非常に重要です。
ビデオで話された「社会的なダイナミクス」とは何ですか?
-社会的なダイナミクスとは、異なる文化におけるコミュニケーションスタイルや社会的な動作を指します。言語を学ぶだけでなく、その文化の社会的な側面も理解することも重要です。
ビデオで紹介された没入法のトレーニングプログラムの内容は何ですか?
-ビデオで紹介された没入法のトレーニングプログラムは、没入法の方法を学ぶための1か月間のブートキャンプであり、テレビ番組のリストやコンテンツ、さらには社会的なダイナミクスに関するビデオも提供されています。
言語学習において「被動的没入」と「能動的没入」の違いは何ですか?
-「被動的没入」とは、簡単なタスクをしながら何かを聞くことです。一方、「能動的没入」とは、スクリーンを見ながら番組を視聴し、字幕を活用して学ぶことを指します。
ビデオで紹介されたハンドシェイクのテクニックとは何ですか?
-ビデオで紹介されたハンドシェイクのテクニックは、肘を見ながら握手を行うことです。これはビジネスや社交的な場で強い印象を与えるために重要です。
言語学習において「インプット」とは何を意味しますか?
-「インプット」とは、言語を学ぶ過程で言語の情報を取得することを指します。これは没入法で言語を自然に習得するために不可欠です。
Outlines
😀 言語沉浸の重要性と実践方法
この段落では、言語学習における沉浸の概念とその重要性が議論されています。Rufus SenseiとNick Nissanが、日本語を母国語以外の人々がどのように沉浸を活用して英語を学ぶかについて語り、特に日本では英語教育が試験指向であるため、実際のコミュニケーション能力を身に付けるためには、試験勉強以上のアプローチが必要なと主張しています。彼らは、言語学習は音楽やスポーツを学ぶのと同様で、実践を通じて習得されると強調しています。
🎧 パッシブな言語沉浸の活用方法
ここでは、パッシブ沉浸の概念が紹介されており、日常的なタスクをこなす間、例えば掃除や料理の際に、英語のポッドキャストや番組を聞くことの利点を説明しています。パッシブ沉浸は、長時間行うことができ、効率的な時間利用が可能な方法と位置付けられています。また、アクティブ沉浸との違いについても触れられており、アクティブ沉浸ではテレビ番組を字幕なしで見ることで、より集中して学習することができます。
🌐 言語の獲得と社会的な相互作用
この段落では、言語の獲得プロセスとそれに伴う社会的スキルの重要性が語られています。小さな国々は英語のエンターテインメントに頼るため、子供たちは自然と英語を学び、大きな国々では独自のエンターテインメント産業があるため、英語へのアクセスが限られる傾向があるという興味深い観点が紹介されています。さらに、言語学習の3つのステップ:学習、入力、出力を紹介し、最後に社会的ダイナミクスの理解がどのように重要であるかについても議論されています。
📚 学習の成果と新しいアプローチの提案
最後の段落では、Nick Nissanが日本語を学ぶことで人生がどのように変わったかについて語り、言語力がビジネスやコミュニケーションにおいて重要な役割を果たしていると強調しています。また、彼が制作したイマージョンコースの紹介もあり、そのコースは日本語話者にとって新しい英語学習のアプローチを提供し、英語を5年間学習してから中国語など他の言語にも挑戦することができると促しています。最後に、変化を恐れず新しいアプローチを試すことの大切さがアドバイスされています。
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Keywords
💡イマージョン
💡言語習得
💡パッシブイマージョン
💡アクティブイマージョン
💡言語のアウトプット
💡ソーシャルダイナミクス
💡ハンドシェイク
💡学習
💡コミュニケーション
💡文化の違い
💡言語の自然な習得
Highlights
通过每天被动地听英语节目,可以显著提高语言能力。
如果日本人每天看两小时英语节目,到18岁时可能已经流利掌握英语。
强调了强有力的握手在商务中的重要性。
介绍了Nick Nissan,一位在日本从事漫才并在Sun Music工作的艺人。
提到了一个即将宣布的大项目,鼓励观众保持关注。
讨论了语言沉浸的概念,以及成人学习语言与婴儿的自然沉浸方式的比较。
提出了一个观点,即在日本,人们不应该学习英语超过两年。
强调了通过沉浸式学习,人们可以像学习母语一样学习第二语言。
介绍了被动沉浸和主动沉浸的区别,以及它们在语言学习中的作用。
Stephen Krashen教授的语言沉浸理论,强调了通过大量输入来学习语言。
提出了每天至少两小时的英语沉浸作为学习策略。
讨论了如何设置个人的沉浸式学习计划,包括早晨听播客等活动。
解释了在不理解新词汇或语法点时,如何选择性地查找解释而不是每次都停下来。
强调了通过重复观看英语节目来自然习得语言。
讨论了小国家与大国在语言学习上的差异,以及为什么小国家的人更倾向于说英语。
提出了学习语言的四个步骤:学习、输入、输出和社交动态。
Nick Nissan分享了他学习日语如何改变他的生活,并为他的职业生涯打开了新的机会。
介绍了Nick Nissan制作的沉浸式学习课程,以及它如何帮助人们自我指导学习。
强调了社交动态在语言学习中的重要性,以及如何适应不同文化背景的交流方式。
提供了一个沉浸式学习课程的链接,包括视频和播客,以帮助学习者。
鼓励学习者尝试新的方法,如沉浸式学习,以避免重复旧习惯而无法取得进步。
Transcripts
so say I'm making my bed cleaning the
room cooking I'm listening to something
passively if you made every single
Showbox in Japan watch two hours of
English shows every day they'd be fluent
by the time they're 18. there you go
that's how we solve the problem come get
you uh good afternoon what's up it's
Rufus Sensei here and I'm back with the
one and only Nick Nissan how you doing
brother what's up everyone
he always has a good handshake he has a
very strong handshake which is very
important
I do a lot of business here in Japan and
because I'm a foreigner they won't do
the bow they'll go in for a handshake
but it's always a little bit of a limp
fish it needs to be
Deepak
yeah yeah we call it a fish a fish hand
yeah a dead fish yeah dead fish all
right all right and the trick is to look
at the elbow when you're going in for
the handshake so we'll go so if you look
at the elbow
how much does your lesson cost
there you go all right all right all
right anyway Nick Nissan
um
my name is Nick I'm about uh almost 15
not 15. man 12 years older than you yeah
I've been in Japan for about 15 years
and I do manzai I'm in a big company
called Sun music
and I do a little bit of YouTube a
little bit of insta a little bit of
Twitter I teach English so uh and we're
we're good buddies we we uh met for
lunch one day and ever since we've been
friends that's it that's it and a really
big project being announced soon yeah
yeah but you guys stay tuned for that
you wait for that that's it that's it
thanks for that great introduction and
the topic of today's video is going to
be all about language immersion sure so
and also some of the merits that we've
had from learning a second language and
even third language yeah in your case so
it's going to be a really great video so
let's get into it sure basically what
I'm going to teach you guys today is
almost enough for you to just start
right away I had a plan in mind to be
basically be like here are the Bare
Basics of what you have to do yeah so
learn from the master let's learn from
the master today so Nick Nissan what is
immersion okay well let me go uh a
little bit back okay man so when you
want to start learning a language we're
adults right yeah so if we were babies
our parents wouldn't just give us a
grammar book and be like hey
three-year-old study English and we or
study Japanese and we study it and then
we learn it that's not how it works not
at all we're immersing we're hearing our
parents talk to us every single day what
many adults do what I've done with
Japanese is we study yeah we look at the
grammar we look at words and for me this
is my opinion
especially in Japan because you guys all
learn English from when you're Showbox
it right
I don't think you should be studying for
more than two years wow yeah big claim
yeah because a lot of Japanese I'll
study for over 10 years well if you have
to study for a test then you do have to
study yeah but I'm talking about
actually learning the language yeah
language for communication yes language
for communication so say you want to
make Legos yeah you look at the
instructions first that's what the
studying is and then you start building
Legos eventually you got to start you
know developing your own creativity
trying themselves exactly so Step One is
studying yeah now you asked like what
what is immersion yeah immersion is very
simple it used to mean I'm an American I
want to learn Japanese I'm moving to
Japan and I'm going to listen to
Japanese every day by Japanese people
that's what you're doing just listening
that's all you do that's that's what
immersion is so if you want to immerse
in English you stop watching any
Japanese movies any Japanese shows any
Japanese music and you only watch
American English Australian content with
or without English subtitles very
interesting very interesting and it's
very interesting because uh the research
is the very famous uh linguistic
Professor named Stephen crushing and he
had a very interesting speech and he
said they've tried every type of
exercise every type of test every type
of drill to teach people how to learn
and everybody's unique in the way they
learn but nobody's unique in the way
they acquire a language it's all through
immersion an input inputs listening or
reading so every you know you always
hear like
yeah but actually
we're always obsessed with how different
everybody is when there's actually
the same way to learn for everybody yeah
exactly I think learning a language is a
lot different than learning like maths
no totally different yeah learning a
language is more like going to the gym
or learning a sport yes yes yes yes yes
so you know you could study all you want
but if you don't listen to English and I
say two hours a day at least two hours a
day but you know people don't have that
time so say you have an hour doing an
hour day but if you're just going to be
studying with a pen you know which
Japanese people love to do it's you'll
never get fluent you got you have to
listen and when I say listen I mean
watch a Netflix show in English yeah or
watch something in English an hour a day
or two hours a day or three hours a day
I'm doing this with Spanish yeah and I
did three to five hours a day for the
first three months okay so let's dive
into that if someone you know they've
just heard immersion for the first time
they kind of knew about it but you know
they're finally seeing the the light
yeah and they want to sit up their own
immersion routine what should they do
okay so what I do is the minute I weigh
wake up in the morning yeah
I have a podcast on ready to go ready to
go so while I'm making food there's two
different or a couple types of immersion
one is called Judo taking a listening
passive immersion okay and that's the
type of immersion you do while you do a
simple task really so say I'm making my
bed cleaning the room cooking I'm
listening to something passively
interesting I feel like that's got a lot
of benefits it does have a lot of
benefits and the benefits of that is
because you can do it for a very long
period of time can you pass the
immersion on the train on the way to
work you could do it while you're
walking you can do it while you're
biking you can do it while you're
cleaning so passive immersion is always
quantity over quality yeah I think
that's really great because a lot of
people say I don't have time but then
they wash the dishes or something or
they're commuting to work and they're
not doing anything that is sitting on
the train like this use that time to
acquire a language exactly exactly yeah
I mean you know people look at their
phones I think on average like it was
like some eight or eight hours or some
in same amount yeah if you changed even
if you brought it down to seven hours
you would have at least one hour of
passive immersion exactly now there's
another type of immersion and this is
when you have a screen in front of you
it can be a TV it can be a computer it
can be your phone and you're watching a
show you're watching let's say friends
or Full House you've done a video on
Full House and you watch it with English
subtitles and no English subtitles
now it's called active immersion okay
active imagine and with active immersion
you're actually learning more
than you are with passive immersion
obviously because you're concentrating
fully yeah that's the key and what
should the uh all the Learners be
focusing on should they be stopping
every time they hit a new word or new
grammar point so there's two types of
active immersion yeah one is called
okay and that's when you just watch it
from beginning to end and if you don't
know something you just let it go okay
almost 90 of my immersion is that okay
90 so I always get questions from
Japanese people what should I do if I
can't understand something
give 10 of your time so I'd say 10
minutes or 20 minutes say a day 20
minutes a lot let's say 15 minutes of
you can stop and look
and look things up
but the rest of it you let it go and you
know why it works if you let it go how's
it let's say you're a three-year-old and
you are thirsty yeah when I say to you
do you want water you won't understand
what I say but if you watch me with a
glass of water and I say do you want
water if he sees it a hundred times he's
acquired the word that water means
something to drink yeah so if you watch
Full House and you see the same word or
same phrase over the amount of Seasons
you watch through context
yeah really great really good and I'm
quoting uh Matt vs Japan from our last
video he said uh
um
so this is very hard to convince
Japanese people so immersion is popular
all over the world
well I mean obviously there's less money
to be made when you could just say hey
just watch Netflix just watch Netflix if
you made every single shogaxa in Japan
watch two hours of English shows every
day they'd be fluent by the time they're
18. there you go that's how we solve the
problem a lot of people who want to
study English are parents a lot of women
you know middle-aged women and they're
like I can't I work and I have kids and
my advice every time is do this for your
kids make it all English content all the
time because your kids will get better
faster than you yeah together you you
interviewed uh where they are the the
brothers that's right do you think that
the syr brothers learn English by you
know notes they're not old enough to do
that not at all what did their parents
do they just made them watch TV Disney
yeah
foreign
I took a trip to Europe for work
a month ago
all of the small countries speak English
fluently right and all the big countries
don't yeah do you know why I have no
idea because big countries like let's
say France or you know Germany
um
they have so much money in entertainment
that they can make amazing TV shows in
their own language or the smaller
countries don't have the money to make
it so they're just like screw it we'll
just put on American films and they
don't overdub and they don't put
subtitles on so all the little kids at
first can't understand anything yeah
until they start understanding it so
they're forced to immerse in English and
we know that Japan is probably one of
the biggest countries with TV shows yeah
it's impossible for people to learn
English because there's so many good
Japanese TVs yeah with all the anime and
Japanese dramas and stuff people don't
really have a reason so you're a little
kid exactly so to put it back in
perspective number one study the
language you can use you know I'm sure
Rupa Sensei has study uh contents uh
tons of people have studied contents you
learn it in school number two immerse
and it takes years yeah everybody
everybody's saying you know get good in
one month you know get flu in one month
there's a lot of Japanese programs for
Americans right like that and I'm always
like oh no dude no way yeah so it's
gonna take you a long time and then
number three step three is start writing
and start speaking exactly hey you learn
it straight from the month though so so
um to give an example say you want some
water yeah
you want some water and you have a glass
you can't just drink An Empty Glass you
have to input the water yeah that's what
the input is actually putting the
content so you're putting the English in
your mind you're learning the English
then you can drink it you can let it
come out there you go so it's always
study input output and then finally is
social dynamics yeah and social dynamics
social dynamics are totally different we
actually taught you one today we did you
know exactly the handshake so that's
something they don't do in Japan
and eye contact as well eye contact I
mean it's really interesting because I'm
immersing in Spanish I'm studying
Spanish just like you guys are studying
Japanese uh English right now I'm doing
the exact same thing and the social
dynamics of Spanish-speaking countries
are so close to English speaking
languages it's easy yeah but Japan is so
different it is so you need to study
because you can be fluent in English but
if you don't know the social dynamics of
it like say the West it will be really
awkward when somebody asks you are you
close to your parents because in Japan
people don't ask
I guess that's a very personal strange
question right but then they'll ask
about age and stuff like that yeah yeah
yeah so so yeah so first you study
second you input third you output and
then fourth you analyze how these people
act and you and I always tell my
students
imagine there's a switch on your neck
yeah down is Japan switch up is American
switch so when I'm with Japanese people
I turn my switch down okay Japan mode
and when I'm with like you know Western
foreigners I switch on to Foreigner mode
so you've got to have two different
personalities I've never heard that
before yeah because I think I'm always
on that guy
but you know there's Japanese people and
I think we talked about this before I
don't know
okay yeah he's a guy that's like I tell
you what I want I tell it directly yeah
there's a lot of Japanese like Rich
bosses and stuff like that there's many
benefits to learning a western mindset
that's very interesting very interesting
to learn all about that social dynamics
and I think a lot of those English
courses or you know regular textbooks
you don't learn anything about social
dynamics no so next I want to talk uh
with you Nick is about how has learning
Japanese and being able to speak
Japanese change your life yeah well I
mean it's basically changed my life only
positively right yeah
you out of there and now I'm doing
better than any of them because I chose
this just one language that opened up
all these doors yeah you know perfect
yeah and I think when you study things
like business those worlds always
changing always says yeah yeah the
things I learned in business school I I
started finished in University it's
super old yeah yeah yeah but I think
like a language it's always it's always
there always there oh and AI will never
replace good communication right yeah
they can translate but if you can
actually speak the language of the other
person you speak to their heart it kind
of opens up a whole new world of
opportunities there you go there you go
it's like uh Aladdin before he gets the
the lamp and then after exactly exactly
exactly handsome like Aladdin and
dresses up like him
yeah so anyway Nick so I've seen that
you've made a really great course
recently and it's all about immersion
yeah so what I did was I took an entire
year
to immerse in Spanish oh yeah a whole
year and I and I'm still doing it every
day yeah just like you guys but I
recorded everything I do for immersion
this type of immersion you should do
this every day you should do this every
day and I made a timed plan so what you
should do every week what you can watch
I made a list of TV shows and then I
also made immersion content for Japanese
people to watch fantastic so this is a
one month boot camp that teaches you how
to immerse so basically I'm training you
to be able to do it by yourself for the
rest of your life so you could do this
first with English do it for five years
become fluent in English then do the
exact same thing in Chinese if you want
there you go once you learn how to do it
yes it's really good it's it's a very I
wouldn't say difficult but it's a time
consuming course
um and of course you can do it at your
pace or if you need to bring it down you
bring it down but it's I think it's one
of the best uh English courses Japan has
ever had and it's the first type of
immersion they've never had something
like this in Japan exactly yeah you know
you can keep trying those textbooks you
can keep trying those get fluent in you
know one month courses or you can
actually learn how to do it straight
from the person that's done it himself
yep and nothing replaces real life
experience nice yes exactly yes so yeah
we're gonna have all the links
everything if you're interested in
immersion it's the best way to do
English immersion you're going to learn
everything about it yeah and then also
get content yeah yeah and we we have a
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social dynamics videos so with the
social dynamics videos you'll learn
about how to interact with westerners
and how our interactions are different
than Japan
um it's actually one of the most
everybody's like we love the social
dynamics is and we also have podcasts so
you can do passive immersion on the
train right um you know six hours worth
of uh of content fantastic fantastic so
guys take the steps towards being able
to acquire a language and then go out
and do it it's your decision whether you
do it or not but guys if you keep you
know just filling around if you keep
messing around on this doing the same
thing over and over again and never
actually being able to speak the
language you know that's Einstein's
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thank you so much for having me on buddy
yeah all right man if you take one thing
away learn about the strong handshake
there we go there we go awesome brother
thanks for coming up thank you so much
always a pleasure okay guys stay happy
stay healthy do your best with your
English studies
thank you brother thanks man awesome
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