Why we AVOIDED the Fisker Karma and Tesla S, and bought a used Maserati instead
Summary
TLDREl video proporciona una reflexión personal sobre la decisión de no adquirir un Fisker Karma o un Tesla Model S a pesar de su fascinación por ambos vehículos. El narrador destaca la belleza y el diseño innovador del Fisker Karma, que funciona como un locomotora diesel, y el rendimiento y la conveniencia del Tesla. Sin embargo, menciona las limitaciones de estos vehículos en términos de servicio y soporte, especialmente para el Fisker Karma, debido a las complicaciones con los proveedores de mantenimiento y la falta de una red de servicio extendida. Finalmente, el narrador comparte su elección de comprar un Maserati Gran Turismo 2008, valorando su estilo, el disfrute del manejo y la experiencia de conducción, a pesar de no ser tan eficiente o avanzado tecnológicamente como los vehículos eléctricos. Además, ofrece un llamado a la comunidad de vehículos eléctricos para mejorar en relaciones con los clientes y a los fabricantes para no caer en la monotonía de los algoritmos, valorando la individualidad y la experiencia humana por encima de la eficiencia pura.
Takeaways
- 🚗 El Fisker Karma es un híbrido con un motor de combustión interna que funciona como generador para las baterías, similar a un locomotora diesel.
- 🚘 La Tesla Model S es un automóvil completamente eléctrico con una autonomía y rendimiento superiores, pero requiere planificación para viajes largos debido a la disponibilidad de estaciones de carga rápida.
- 🔋 Una de las ventajas del Fisker Karma es la capacidad de recargar la batería en cualquier gasolinera, ofreciendo flexibilidad para viajes a larga distancia.
- 🛠️ El servicio y la relación con los centros de reparación para el Fisker Karma son críticos, pero la experiencia del narrador con los centros de servicio fue negativa, lo que influyó en su decisión de no comprar el vehículo.
- 💸 El Fisker Karma y la Tesla Model S son vehículos caros que requieren una inversión significativa, pero ofrecen tecnología y características únicas.
- 💡 La decisión final de no comprar un Fisker Karma o una Tesla se debió a factores de servicio, soporte y la búsqueda de un automóvil que reflejara la personalidad y el estilo de la pareja.
- 🇮🇹 En lugar de un Fisker Karma o una Tesla, la pareja optó por un Maserati Gran Turismo, un automóvil de diseño italiano que ofrece un buen rendimiento y un toque de exclusividad.
- 🤔 El narrador reflexiona sobre la individualidad y la expresión artística en la elección de un automóvil, y cómo los algoritmos y la tecnología están influyendo en la experiencia de conducción.
- 🚧 Hay preocupaciones sobre la dependencia de la tecnología en los vehículos autónomos y cómo esto podría llevar a una vida más predecible y menos emocionante.
- 🌿 A pesar de la atracción inicial hacia los vehículos eléctricos y hibridos por sus beneficios ambientales, la pareja valora la experiencia de conducción y la conexión con el automóvil.
- 📞 La falta de comunicación y el servicio al cliente por parte de los centros de servicio para los vehículos eléctricos y hibridos influyeron en la decisión final de compra.
- 🏎️ El narrador apoya la idea de que el automóvil no solo es un medio de transporte, sino también una expresión de identidad y pasión por la conducción.
Q & A
¿Por qué no compraron un Fisker Karma o un Tesla?
-El narrador y su esposa no compraron un Fisker Karma o un Tesla porque, a pesar de apreciar las características y el diseño de estos vehículos, se dieron cuenta de que no les proporcionaban la emoción y el estilo único que buscaban. Además, tuvieron problemas para encontrar un lugar confiable para su mantenimiento y servicio.
¿Cómo funciona el Fisker Karma en términos de su motorización?
-El Fisker Karma tiene un motor de combustión interna en la parte delantera, que no está conectado mecánicamente con las ruedas. Este motor actúa como un generador de gasolina para producir electricidad que carga las baterías, y son los motores eléctricos los que mueven el vehículo.
¿Por qué el Fisker Karma fue comparado con un locomotora diesel?
-El Fisker Karma fue comparado con una locomotora diesel porque, al igual que esta, utiliza un motor de combustión interna para generar electricidad que luego se utiliza para accionar motores eléctricos que mueven el vehículo.
¿Cuál fue el principal problema con el servicio post-venta del Fisker Karma?
-El principal problema fue la falta de comunicación y el desinterés de los posibles centros de servicio. El narrador intentó contactar con los centros de servicio en Pensilvania e Indianapolis, pero no recibió respuesta alguna, lo que los desanimó de comprar el vehículo.
¿Qué les llevó a elegir un Maserati Gran Turismo en lugar de un Fisker Karma o un Tesla?
-El narrador y su esposa decidieron por un Maserati Gran Turismo porque encontraron una oferta muy buena y el vehículo ofrecía un equilibrio entre el estilo, la emoción de conducir y la facilidad de mantenimiento, sin la necesidad de una infraestructura de carga extensa como la que requieren los vehículos eléctricos.
¿Qué aspectos positivos menciona el narrador sobre el Tesla Model S?
-El narrador destaca la autonomía del Tesla Model S, su alcance suficiente para la mayoría de las necesidades de conducción diarias, la comodidad de su interior, la tecnología avanzada, y su rendimiento en tráfico.
¿Por qué consideró el narrador que el Tesla Model S no era emocionante?
-El narrador percibió que el Tesla Model S era una gran máquina, pero no proporcionaba la sensación de individualidad o la emoción que buscan en un automóvil. Se sentía más como un producto de utilidad sin la conexión emocional que buscan con sus vehículos.
¿Qué tipo de motorización tiene el Maserati Gran Turismo que el narrador menciona?
-El Maserati Gran Turismo que menciona el narrador tiene un motor V8 de accionamiento Ferrari, lo que sugiere un rendimiento deportivo y una experiencia de conducción emocionante.
¿Qué sugerencias da el narrador para los entusiastas de Fisker Karma y los centros de servicio?
-El narrador sugiere que los entusiastas de Fisker Karma deberían asegurarse de tener una relación sólida con un centro de servicio confiable. Para los centros de servicio, les sugiere que deberían mejorar su atención al cliente, respondiendo a llamadas y correos electrónicos para mantener su negocio en el futuro.
¿Qué reflexión hace el narrador sobre la autonomía en los vehículos y las algortimos?
-El narrador expresa su preocupación sobre el futuro donde los vehículos autónomos controlados por algoritmos de internet podrían llevar a la humanidad hacia un punto medio sin emoción ni individualidad. Él valora la artesanía, la vida y las diferencias únicas que hacen interesante la vida.
¿Por qué el narrador decide promover a Top Cart USA y KW Suspension en su narración?
-El narrador decide promover a Top Cart USA y KW Suspension porque él mismo utiliza estos productos para mejorar el rendimiento de sus vehículos en carreras. Top Cart USA ofrece chasis de alta calidad y KW Suspension es reconocida por sus componentes de suspensión avanzados, lo que sugiere que son de confianza y eficaces en el mundo de la competición automotriz.
Outlines
🚗 Análisis del Fisker Karma y Tesla Model S
El video comienza con una discusión sobre la experiencia de considerar la compra de un Fisker Karma y un Tesla Model S. El narrador y su esposa aprecian los aspectos estéticos y emocionales de los autos, y discuten las razones por las que finalmente no compraron ninguno de los dos modelos. El Fisker Karma es comparado con un tren diesel, ya que su motor de combustión interna actúa como un generador de electricidad para las baterías, mientras que el Tesla es un automóvil completamente eléctrico. A pesar de la fascinación por la tecnología y el diseño de estos vehículos, se mencionan problemas de servicio y soporte que llevaron a la decisión de no adquirir ninguno.
🌟 Ventajas y desventajas del Fisker Karma y Tesla
Este párrafo profundiza en las características únicas del Fisker Karma y el Tesla Model S. El Fisker Karma es elogiado por su capacidad de funcionamiento en modo eléctrico y su flexibilidad para recargar en cualquier estación de servicio de gasolina. Sin embargo, se destaca su eficiencia limitada y la preocupación por la calidad y los problemas potenciales debido a ser un modelo de producción limitada. Por otro lado, el Tesla Model S es reconocido por su alcance y comodidad, pero se menciona que requiere planificación para viajes largos debido a la necesidad de estaciones de recarga. Además, se discute la falta de individualidad y emoción en la experiencia de conducir un Tesla, en comparación con la singularidad del Fisker Karma.
🛠 Desafíos de servicio y soporte para el Fisker Karma
El narrador detalla las dificultades encontradas al buscar servicio y soporte para el Fisker Karma. A pesar de su interés en el vehículo, las complicaciones con los proveedores de servicio y la falta de una red de soporte confiable les desanimaron. Se menciona una mala comunicación con los dealerships y talleres especializados, así como la preocupación por la disponibilidad de repuestos y la capacidad de mantener el vehículo a largo plazo. Estos desafíos fueron cruciales en la decisión final de no comprar el Fisker Karma.
🏎️ Elegir un vehículo: entre emoción y practicidad
El narrador concluye su análisis comparando las emociones y la practicidad al elegir un vehículo. A pesar de la atracción inicial por el Fisker Karma y el Tesla Model S, optaron por un Maserati Gran Turismo 2008, que ofrecía una combinación de diseño, rendimiento y mantenimiento más alineados con sus preferencias personales. La decisión se basa en la importancia de tener un soporte de servicio sólido y la necesidad de una experiencia de conducción única y emocionante, que no se encontró en los modelos eléctricos considerados.
🤖 Reflexiones sobre la automatización y la individualidad
El video termina con una reflexión sobre la automatización en los vehículos y su impacto en la individualidad del conductor. El narrador expresa su preocupación sobre la creciente dependencia de los algoritmos y la posibilidad de que la personalidad y las elecciones únicas queden homogeneizadas. Aunque reconoce los avances tecnológicos y la conveniencia de los vehículos autónomos, defiende la importancia de la libertad de elección y la búsqueda de lo extraordinario y emocionante en la vida y en la experiencia de conducir.
🏁 Promoción de componentes de suspensión y chasis para carreras
El narrador finaliza el video promocionando componentes de alta calidad para carreras, como los chasis de Top Cart y los amortiguadores KW Suspension. Enfatiza la importancia de contar con un chasis de alta calidad para la competencia en carreras y comparte su experiencia personal usando productos de estas marcas. Alabando la precisión y el rendimiento de estos componentes, el narrador incentiva a los entusiastas de las carreras a considerar estos productos para mejorar su rendimiento en la pista.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Fisker Karma
💡Tesla Model S
💡Maserati Gran Turismo
💡Híbrido extendido
💡Autonomía
💡Conducto autónomo
💡Soporte de servicio
💡Individualidad
💡Eficiencia energética
💡Algoritmos
💡Topcart USA y KW Suspension
Highlights
The Fisker Karma operates like a diesel locomotive, with an internal combustion engine acting as a generator to charge the batteries that power the electric motors.
The author and his wife were initially interested in the Fisker Karma and Tesla Model S due to their unique designs and environmentally friendly aspects.
The Fisker Karma's range extender allows for flexibility in long trips without the need for pre-planning charging stations.
Tesla's Model S offers a smooth, quiet, and sporty driving experience with excellent performance and utility.
The Tesla Model S has a significant range and performance but requires planning for long trips due to the availability of charging stations.
The author appreciated Tesla's customer service, including pick-up and repair services, despite the limited availability of service centers.
The Fisker Karma's unique design and ability to run on both electricity and gasoline were appealing, but concerns over service and support led to hesitation.
Negative experiences with potential service providers for the Fisker Karma, including poor communication, were a significant factor in not choosing the car.
The author and his wife value individuality and style in a car, which influenced their decision against the Tesla and Fisker Karma.
The Tesla Model S was considered boring and too algorithm-driven, lacking the unique flair the author and his wife were seeking.
The author expresses concerns about the future of self-driving cars and the potential loss of individuality and control.
Ultimately, the author's wife chose a 2008 Maserati Gran Turismo for its style, performance, and the availability of reliable service.
The author emphasizes the importance of a positive relationship with service providers when considering a vehicle purchase.
The Fisker Karma's unique features, such as its recyclable cloth interior and stealth mode, were points of interest.
The author discusses the potential downsides of relying on algorithms for all aspects of life, including driving experiences.
The decision to not purchase a Fisker Karma or Tesla was influenced by a desire for a vehicle with more character and less reliance on computer control.
The author suggests that electric vehicle communities and companies should improve customer service and support to succeed.
The author concludes by recommending Top Cart USA and KW Suspension for racing car setup and tuning, praising their high-quality products.
Transcripts
the fisker karma works like a diesel
locomotive does
horrible relationships with the places
that can actually service them welcome
to the fellowship
and i'm like easy dude i'm not trying to
join a cult i'm just thinking about
buying a fisker
by the way pterosaur yes so that's why
we didn't buy a fisker karma or a tesla
maybe someday in the future but for
right now maserati
what's up people so today i wanted to
talk about the
fisker karma as well as the tesla model
s and specifically why
we meaning my wife and i didn't buy one
because we actually
really wanted one so i want to tell you
about that experience the whole way
through and what led us to the train of
thought and actually the utilitarian
reason
why she ended up choosing a 2008
maserati
gran turismo instead obviously a very
different kind of car
now to start this conversation off my
wife is actually something of a car
enthusiast
albeit a bit different than me i like
really fast cars and
race cars and projects and flying
pterosaurs on the ceiling oh by the way
i do crazy things on this channel and
you should totally subscribe
really cool builds and all but anyway
that's what i love i love the edge i
love the history so i'm okay with things
a little more masochistic and a little
less utilitarian
but my wife and i both appreciate style
and design
and the intellectual like soulful aspect
of a car
that tickles our fancy you know what i
mean so for me i might love a v12
engine with a stick shift because it
gives me uh mine feelings of
le monson straight at the race le mans
or something like that
you know things that are evocative and
exciting but my wife didn't grow up with
the racing aspect so there are other
things that are interesting her
conceptually
so for instance the fisker karma very
beautiful car very excited
exciting interesting evocative pretty
colors
um tesla very handsome car uh and they
are both different
than just being a straight internal
combustion car
now the fisker carmen a lot of people
don't realize this they call it a hybrid
but it is different than the normal kind
of hybrid so the fisker karma has an
internal combustion engine in the front
i believe it's a turbo four-cylinder
general motors base
and it has electric motors that drive
the wheels and battery packs so it's
in fact hybrid because it has both
internal combustion and electric
but it's different because the internal
combustion engine
in no way is mechanically linked to the
wheels to drive the car
the internal combustion engine of a
fisker karma is only
a gas-powered generator to generate
electricity
which charges the batteries and what
drives the car moves it forward are in
fact the electric
the electric motor that's it so that's
interesting because that in a sense the
fisker karma works
like a diesel locomotive does so diesel
locomotive has a diesel engine internal
combustion
which drives a generator to generate
electricity and it's the electric
tractive motors that move those
locomotives forward
so it's an interesting concept and
unique in the car world
and then of course tesla being fully
electric it's got battery packs it's got
motors
and it goes and when i first thought of
the fisker karma tim mentioned to my
wife and she's like oh that's
interesting
uh we were looking at things like bmw
z3s and z4s you know sporty little cute
two-door convertibles that were
an attractive price point and a used car
market right now for her
we were looking at things a little more
normal you know kind of sedans some
trigger bushing
maybe it's bmw etc and things that may
be a little more chic but could be
utilitarian like a porsche panamera used
one
four-door could be a good car uh and the
maserati gran turismo was kind of the
you know saucy exotic two-door car with
a ferrari
drive v8 and since my wife wasn't into
like super racy cars
didn't necessarily think she should go
that way
but the first car we looked at was in
fact the fisker karma
and i gotta be honest we drove it i
thought it was amazing
it was interesting it was evocative it
was one of the most exotic cars i had
ever been in
and it felt very exotic because one has
huge wheels
interesting proportions and that it just
it just was captivated it was
interesting to look at as an art form
itself so
uh my wife and i both enjoyed that of
course the interior was beautifully
appointed the leather
uh some of them have cloth that's
recyclable cloth and they have
everything things like fossils and
things to reflect of being
more environmentally conscious and of
course a very interesting design that
felt exotic
and fashionable but futuristic and
spaceship-like so it's neat it's
interesting
and of course the fisker karma uh when
it's in what's called stealth mode which
is fully electric
when it's quiet and i believe speeds
under 25 miles an hour maybe 30 miles an
hour
it puts out that sound it actually
generates like a weird spaceship noise
to project to the community not like so
loud it'll annoy the neighbors but
enough to weird them out because it's
like wow
sounds like a creepy spaceship which is
cool and my wife was really into that
and
honestly so was i um so it was exciting
and obviously being electric the way it
moves the wheels forward it's it's very
smooth it moves out well it's
it's quick enough to feel good and
sporty and do everything you need to
but the thing that's probably the most
interesting about the fiscal karma other
than it's a very beautiful
and interesting car is because it has an
internal combustion engine
that you can start up or shut down and
just run it full electric like in
stealth mode or normal mode or sport or
whatever
that car has a shorter range on full
electric i think it might only be like
35 or 40 miles something rather small
but truthfully the fisker karma does and
did what a tesla can't
and while a tesla has a tremendously
better range
and performance and utility let's be
honest
the one thing a tesla can't easily do is
just drive across the country
and not have to pre-plan a trip because
there's only so many supercharging
stations and such and yes i know that
tesla's have really amazing interfaces
that tell you where those are and help
you plan the trip
but also takes a while to charge so you
have to plan
long trips but in a fiskar karma you can
go to any gas station
fill it up with gas and you're right
back on the road it's generating
electricity and moving you forward
so that's an interesting concept i say
it's an interesting concept because in
practice
it's not actually that efficient when
you figure out the miles per gallon it's
like in the 20s
which is nothing really to write home
about i've driven corvettes to get much
better gas mileage
fuel mileage than a fisker karma in fact
does
but concepts are important for social
media movements
and times and also the nature of the
visceral karma even though it's not
highly efficient
when it's running gasoline and
generating electricity to drive it
it works well in utility because in our
hometown
my wife could plug it in at home drive
it basically almost
everywhere she needs to go just fully
electric i would say
80 90 percent of her trips can be just
electric and never turn on the gas
engine
except a couple of times just to keep it
maintained and happy but it allows you
the flexibility to go as far as you want
any time you want so
there is a lot of utility value to the
fisker karma
over a tesla if you like the concept and
you really really appreciate the art and
you want to be that unique individualist
and have that style but still be
conscious of a direction that's more
environmentally sound so you can still
be an automotive enthusiast and love the
art the performance and all
but it works slightly better in the real
world as a concept now i know all you
want to argue so i'm going to go on to
the tesla and say what's positive and
then we're going to come back as to why
we didn't buy a fisker karma
or a tesla and instead bought a maserati
the internal combustion engine loud
annoying
scourge of the electric and hybrid
community
so the tesla okay model s now i had
had driven the roadsters back in the day
which were effectively
electrified and re-bodied lotus elise's
that's what they were
uh and they were neat car i thought they
were really cool uh but i was kind of a
snob curmudgeon
when i saw them because i'm like how's
this helping the environment the only
guys i know
that have these bought them to park
alongside their freaking lamborghini
avenators as a novelty
which is true so it was a novelty but
you know in
in the span of human existence shall we
say with
neat new or techno technology and stuff
that push boundaries
forward to the future and hopefully a
good way often times those technologies
and things are only available to the
wealthy to start with but that's not a
reason to knock them
so tesla obviously has built a lot of
cars since then and the tesla model s
and all of its variants
is a neat car and really worth
considering because
even if she has to commute a long
distance let's say an hour every day
the range of a tesla model s is fully
sufficient to do that
so truthfully a tesla model s even a
nice used one is what we were looking at
would be sufficient for i don't know 95
or more
of our driving without ever actually
having to go to a charging station
beyond just our house but those big long
cross country drives like if genius
garage is going racing in wisconsin or
florida or something
wouldn't work out as well for the tesla
because she would have to plan the trip
it would take longer and then if you're
at a racetrack and there's no charging
stations you've got to get around it
kind of becomes a pain in the butt
um so that that was kind of a downside
and you
need to figure something out for that or
if we want to go on a cross-country trip
to
visit family we would have to plan ahead
but that's kind of the fun and the
adventure of having a tesla
and obviously their computer system is
amazing now
the positive thing about the tesla
before we go into the negatives of that
and how we ended up with the maserati
the tesla my wife said something to the
effect of
she doesn't want to like it as much as
she did
and that's interesting and that goes
into a huge cultural aspect of it too
because the tesla model s was
amazing at being a car
but it wasn't amazing at letting you
feel like an individual
and that was the problem and she loved
it and frankly i loved it too when we
first test drove it i'm like this is the
car this thing's great
you know you've got the self-driving
aspect you've got incredible
uh touchscreen navigation supercharging
everything is convenient the performance
was
awesome in traffic it was planted that
you know when it's doing the
regenerative brake things you barely
even have to use the
normal brakes um the brake pedal that is
and uh there's no transmission tunnel
hump or place for the exhaust so if
you're in the back seat you can put your
feet wherever you want
and there's so many great things about
it since you don't have the center
console i know this sounds silly but for
all you
ladies watching you get in your car and
you want someone to put your purse
and in normal cars there's nowhere to
put your purse except in the passenger
seat but at tesla you put it right there
or for guys if you've got a briefcase or
a book bag whatever same thing so in
utility it works awesome
a great trunk space and it was a
relatively good looking car really can't
knock it
and i also like some other aspects about
tesla the
connection like they'll come pick it up
and fix it and whatnot the downside of
course is you're not getting that thing
fixed everywhere
but there's enough support and all
that'll probably be pretty good so let's
say why we didn't buy the tesla to start
with
it was boring
it was really great at being a car but
in no way made you feel
special or good about yourself or fun
now i realize a zillion of you have a
heck of a lot of fun or tesla and you
love it you sit back and watch a singer
go by and you do that
but being an individual and the feeling
of individuality
and expression is important and we
couldn't
figure out a way to do that and it
bumped my wife because
it was amazing car but it didn't wasn't
exciting
so i said to her okay we like the tesla
maybe someday we'll get one
and maybe that if you have another car
to have fun but let's not do that right
now while you don't have kids and stuff
let's
have some fun so we ruled the tesla out
it just for us it wasn't fun it was a
tesla was no different than a cell phone
the difference is you get it and drive
it around and a cell phone's not fun
i don't i don't get excited about these
they just drive me nuts it's just
utility
so that's why we didn't get it the
fisker karma she
really wanted one loved the concept it
was unique it was really cool
it was something to talk it was just it
tripped all the boxes
as well as going in good direction like
if tesla was good enough to
adopt some fisker-like qualities of the
design and whatnot it'd be a lot more
interesting
you'd feel more like an individual and
interesting concepts and obviously the
fisker being
the range extended i think they call it
with the internal combustion engine
generating was
helpful although not the direction
tesla's going
here was the big problem i knew that
both of those cars
uh with their technology and such were
at a point where i can only service so
much of it
unlike more conventional cars as you
guys can probably imagine from this
garage
that i could fix for things of my own
and since it's my wife's car
i wanted to make sure that i can look
after it well for her considering these
are all used
and fisker is not in business in the way
that it was back in 2012 the one year
they built those cars
now karma is the company that exists now
and has the
rivero i hope i said that right which i
think started in 2016
uh and is still being produced i believe
and there are in fact
karma dealers now the fisker karma from
2012 which we were looking at can be
bought well with low miles and if you
find one
uh well it can be had there's also other
places that service them
now with a car that's only produced one
year it's going to have a few quality
control issues
and teething problems which could relate
to the metallurgy
in a certain drive shaft from a certain
vin number range
or a cooling fan that could overheat and
in general i think that vast
the populace needs to understand that a
car company that comes out of nowhere
doesn't matter what it is
and only produce cars for a couple years
or are producing their very first car
it's not reasonable to expect the car
will have no problems
that comes from time going by and in no
way is that a detriment to the design
or the company really and if i'm not
mistaken the thing that actually really
killed or drove the
nails in the coffin of fisker originally
were battery recalls
so the batteries and that company ended
up being faulty or an issue or something
of that
but because of all those recalls it
really just crushed the company
but here's why we didn't buy one point
blank
horrible relationships with the places
that can actually service them
the truth about a fisker karma is it's
got a normal car battery in it
to run some systems and start it up and
and get things going and lights and
whatever
and the solar roof on the top of the car
i believe is supposed to
charge the normal car battery to look
after things like that
and the problem is if it's parked inside
for a long period of time
um and it's not used daily and that
thing's not being charged
and it goes dead and you replace it at
home you can do that it's not that hard
but if i'm not mistaken the car becomes
a paperweight and inoperable
until a dealership plugs into it and
tells the computer
hey it's cool or something of that
nature so i heard it becomes a
paperweight in that circumstance
so with that alone i realized that a
fisker karma i would have to plan on
either
paying to have it trucked every so often
to be serviced
out of state whether it's the karma
dealer in indy
or the private shop that does all the
fiskars somewhere in pennsylvania
and that could be okay if you really
like the car and you really vibe with it
but you really want to buy the right one
and do your due diligence to see if it
has records and recalls and things like
that done and where in the vin range it
is
and that's what we were doing and before
we even bought it i
called the private service place for
fisker karmas and other evs in
pennsylvania as well as the karma
dealership
in indianapolis now but both of them
spoke to me although the place in
pennsylvania like you could tell he just
didn't want to talk to anybody
and i was very kind and and direct with
where i was at and saying
hey long time car guy collector builder
thinking about buying a fisker caramel
really like it just doing a little due
diligence
starting a relationship since obviously
we have to have service done by a place
that can interface with these cars
properly
uh and he's like yeah and it's being
nice i said
uh i'm wondering are there particular
things i should especially look out for
when buying and i wasn't asking for like
the encyclopedia bricktanic or
you know something on it but i'm just
figuring if the guy would be like hey
man just look out for this this and this
and otherwise you'd be cool
and didn't say anything the guy was like
a real curmudgeon
and that turned me off a little bit but
not so badly
and i said well obviously i'd like to
serve you guys but i'm looking at a few
cars
is it possible that if i give you the
vin numbers you can tell me if
it has had any service or recalls etc
and he kind of just like
just did not want to be bothered at all
um
but he agreed to let me send the vin
numbers in of the cars we were looking
at
and we did never heard a word back never
picked up the phone after that so i'm
like okay this is not a good sign about
getting the cars serviced in
wherever in pennsylvania this place is
so i talked to the karma dealer in
indianapolis and they can in fact look
after fiska karmas
although they were trying to sell me a
used karma from a few years ago because
the price has come down enough and
they've had a lot of bugs worked out
could be worthwhile
but that was outside of the price range
of what my wife and i could spend so
i said well i really appreciate that's
good to know and maybe in the future but
we're going to be looking at fisker
karmas
and that guy was nice and did the same
thing uh he actually offered to let me
send the vin numbers and cars
to see what it was and i said hey i'm
going to be in indianapolis from some
other things relating to racing and
sponsors here
i'd love to come by the dealership check
out the cars meet you and just see what
you think
so i sent him the vin numbers and
uh emailed it no response
then i called again no response
meanwhile i the the karma dealer in indy
um he knew i would be coming the next
week and i was going to get a hold so i
left him
i'll be you know i'll be there on you
know tuesday or wednesday or whatever it
is nothing back
and then i called again and then i
called again when i went to indianapolis
nothing never got back and
i realized that there are you know
facebook uh
groups for fisker karma things like that
out there there's a lot of enthusiasts
and the guy at um indy you know the
the person the head guy at the
dealership it was funny because when i
went
to leave the phone i'm like hey thanks
very much for your time goodbye
he goes his his closing greeting or
whatever was
welcome to the fellowship and i'm like
easy dude i'm not trying to join a cult
i'm just thinking about buying a fisker
so it's kind of funny
obviously nothing negative but i at that
point
i didn't care as much i had already
realized that the place in pennsylvania
was either too busy
or didn't want to take me serious or
just didn't care so i kind of written
them off
and then my only other reasonable
opportunity to have a good relationship
with a fiscal karma for my wife and
maintaining it was the dealership in
indianapolis
and they absolutely dropped the ball did
not get back to any calls or emails
at all um and i just told my wife i said
i think the car is neat as can be and
i'd love to have one
but it doesn't seem there's any
worthwhile support of anybody who cares
so we can't do this car
which is sad because i think it's a
really interesting concept and it's the
first time in my
car owning career of the many funky and
weird cars i've had
and i even daily drove a delorean for
two and a half years
whether it's rain shine or snow and ice
and had no problems but the fiskar
karmas were just like
i don't know what to tell you so that's
why we didn't do it um and
i doing this video not to knock
or take away from either tesla or
uh fisker because i think they're both
fast fascinating and interesting
concepts
and great cars and maybe someday i'll
own one or my wife will own one if we
find a better relationship with a place
that can help
service or at least computer interface
with the fisker
um or if we have more money and feel
like being more boring with a tesla no
offense but
you know what i mean um and so instead
she got a very good deal on an 08
miles already gran turismo has the true
automatic transmission so that doesn't
wear out those engines do well
uh relatively easy to change oil and
while if you're going to a dealership to
deal with the computer which the car is
actually right now at a ferrari maserati
dealer where they're actually trading us
well had a little computer
glitches um it'll be right back in
action so for the same price point
she could have a world caliber cool
italian car that should be
relatively reliable or at least in the
scope of reason
and so
i guess that's just the way it didn't
work out so i wanted to bring that up
relating to fisker karma i think it's a
really interesting car i'd love to have
one i love the concept
uh i think the community uh is pretty
cool and there's a lot of people could
could be into one and i think there's
also a lot of youtube videos that are
really stupid where they say stupid
trite things to slander the car to get
views
and i don't think that's fair and i feel
badly that i'm making this video as to
why we didn't buy one but i think this
hopefully will be helpful
to community of people wanting to when
you're trying to realize you need to
have that relationship with a service
type place
and also hopefully a wake-up call for
the places that can service a fisker
that's like hey guys maybe you should be
slightly nicer or
once in a blue moon get back on a phone
call or email to a person
so that you know you keep having
business in the future
um and in terms of the tesla i will
leave this one parting thought
which i'm not into so this is by no
means
a i can't say conspiracy theory it's
okay algorithm don't bite me i'm not a
freak but in all seriousness so
teslas are really amazing because they
can drive themselves but they require
you to be
kind of engaged and attentive for the
legality purpose all but the cars can
drive themselves or neighbor has one
it's really cool and it drives itself
out of its garage and i'm just like
that's insane
the thing i don't like as an individual
about a car that is controlled by a
computer
that can literally drive you around is
at what point does the automobile drive
itself
and just became a physical mana
manifestation
of internet algorithms driving people
to exactly the middle of the bell curve
where it wants to put you
because it can make the algorithm can
make the most money off you or it fits
best within the system
at what point does that happen because
that's not a stretch
that's already happening but i'm an
individual
and i love art and life and the
differences
of people and everything out there and
the thing that i find is
the art and life and those unique
differences that make life interesting
and worth enjoying
are all the things that are on the
outskirts of the algorithm
that you have to go out and seek and
find look
and listen because if you just go by
what the algorithms give you
life gets really boring in the middle of
the bell curve
um so it's the same thing for cars
and for my wife she trove chose a
maserati
and maybe it'll be a little bit
cantankerous and
hopefully in the day we have something
that maybe is a little more
environmentally friendly
but it's never going to be a slave to an
algorithm
and if everything gets too crazy i'll
just have a nice horse
and feed it hayden carrots and we'll
ride it and
that's that so horsepower whether it's a
friendly friend on four legs with hooves
or a maserati very cool and in terms of
the electric car and ev community
uh yeah you guys might want to work on
your standards of like customer
relations to have things serviced
and tesla stop being so boring middle of
bell curve algorithm that doesn't work
for us rugged individualist artist types
yes now you're angry it's like i'm
trolling your betrothed
elon musk all hail elon except for me
i'm good without but he's cool i like
space and uh that's it and you guys
should totally subscribe because if i
tick you off
oh then maybe i won't in the future or i
will and if i didn't take you off and
you agree with me don't wait there's
more coming and by the way
pterosaur yes so that's why we didn't
buy a fisker karma or a tesla maybe
someday in the future but for right now
maserati catch you guys next time car
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