Ghosts, Demons & Hauntings - Paranormal Expert Neil D'Silva | The Ranveer Show 230
Summary
TLDRIn this spine-chilling episode of the Randy Show, horror writer Neil De Silva discusses his fascination with the paranormal, drawing from his own experiences and research. He delves into the realm of ghosts, spirits, and the astral world, sharing stories of entities like Yakshinis and Pishach, and the cultural beliefs surrounding them. De Silva's narrative is interwoven with personal accounts of eerie encounters, offering a haunting exploration for believers in the supernatural. The podcast, edited with atmospheric music, is a treat for those intrigued by the dark and unexplained, but not for the skeptics.
Takeaways
- 👻 The script discusses the belief that women who die in childbirth or during pregnancy, without proper cremation rituals, can turn into spirits known as 'Judael' or 'Diane', who are unsatisfied and vengeful.
- 💃 'Yakshinis' are described as demi-goddesses believed to sometimes appear on earth in both beautiful and evil forms, often causing harm to men they seduce.
- 📚 The guest, Neil De Silva, is a horror writer who has worked with paranormal investigators and shares his research and experiences on the show.
- 🎧 The podcast is edited with music to enhance the storytelling of ghost and horror stories, making it more atmospheric and engaging.
- 👻 Neil discusses his personal experiences with the paranormal, including feeling a cold presence and witnessing lights flickering in a room, suggesting a connection between his horror writing and attracting paranormal experiences.
- 📖 The conversation covers various theories about ghosts, including those who have died unnaturally and spend time as ghosts in this realm, as well as the differences in beliefs among paranormal investigators.
- 🌳 The script mentions a haunting story from a village where young men mysteriously hang themselves from the same tree, possibly influenced by a dark energy sensed by paranormal investigators.
- 🌲 Trees are discussed as potential homes for spirits, with cultural beliefs suggesting that certain actions, like urinating on a tree, can invite negative spiritual consequences.
- 🔮 The use of spiritual practices like meditation and chanting is mentioned as a way to cleanse environments and counteract dark energies.
- 🧙♀️ The script includes a personal account of an encounter with someone practicing witchcraft, highlighting the potential dangers and effects of such encounters.
Q & A
What is the origin theory of 'Yakshinis' discussed in the podcast?
-Yakshinis are believed to be demi-goddesses who reside in a realm between earth and heaven. They are said to come to earth mostly in their evil forms, appearing beautiful but turning evil after seduction has worn off. Their victims are usually men.
What is the significance of the 'Judael' and 'Diane' entities in the context of the podcast?
-Judael and Diane are entities believed to originate from women who die at childbirth or during pregnancy without proper cremation rituals. They are thought to become vengeful spirits, unsatisfied with their existence and unable to see the happiness of other women.
How does the podcast describe the nature of being a ghost?
-The podcast suggests that ghosts are entities that have had an unnatural death before their time and spend the remainder of their time in this realm. They are often associated with suffering and can be either good or evil, depending on their circumstances.
What role does the podcast host believe music plays in enhancing horror stories?
-The host believes that music, when used in the context of horror stories, helps to create a more atmospheric and scary experience for the listeners. It's a tool to enhance the storytelling of ghost and horror stories.
What is the connection between the author's personal experiences and his writing?
-The author's personal experiences with the paranormal and his fear of the dark have influenced his writing. He uses his own fears and experiences to create horror stories, essentially turning his fears into art.
What is the author's perspective on the existence of ghosts?
-The author believes in the existence of ghosts and has written books based on his research and interactions with paranormal investigators. He suggests that there is a strong spiritual connection to the paranormal world.
What are the different types of paranormal entities mentioned in the podcast?
-The podcast mentions several paranormal entities including ghosts, yakshinis, judaels, dianes, and poltergeists. Each has a unique origin and behavior, with some being more malevolent than others.
What is the significance of the tree in the story from Bhubaneshwar?
-The tree in Bhubaneshwar is significant because it is associated with a series of unexplained suicides of young boys. Paranormal investigators found a dark energy around the tree, suggesting it might be the cause of the tragic events.
What is the role of a paranormal investigator according to the podcast?
-Paranormal investigators, as described in the podcast, work to uncover the truth behind paranormal phenomena. They use various tools and techniques, including psychic abilities, to investigate and understand the nature of hauntings and other supernatural occurrences.
How does the podcast host feel about the scientific approach to the paranormal?
-The host acknowledges the limitations of the scientific approach to the paranormal. He suggests that while technology is advancing and might eventually provide more evidence, the current scientific methods are not fully equipped to prove or disprove the existence of the paranormal.
Outlines
👽 The Haunting Origins of Yakshinis and Judaels
This paragraph delves into the lore of supernatural beings like Yakshinis and Judaels, believed to arise from women who die in childbirth or during pregnancy without proper cremation rituals. These entities are depicted as demi-goddesses with a dual nature, initially appearing beautiful but revealing an evil form post-seduction. The narrative also touches upon the podcast's unique blend of storytelling and music to enhance the horror experience, and introduces the guest, Neil De Silva, a horror writer with a deep dive into paranormal research.
📚 From Paranormal Fears to Horror Creations
The speaker reflects on the transition from childhood fascination with horror literature to becoming a horror writer. The influence of classic gothic novels and personal experiences with the paranormal are discussed as foundational to the speaker's writing. The conversation also explores the nature of ghosts, drawing from various sources like the Garud Puran and accounts from paranormal investigators, highlighting the diverse theories surrounding these entities.
👻 Encounters with the Paranormal: A Writer's Perspective
Neil De Silva shares his journey from writing fiction to studying the paranormal, influenced by interactions with paranormal investigators. The discussion contrasts the beliefs of different investigators, such as Jai Jayalani's skepticism and Sarbajit Mohanty's belief in other-dimensional energies. Personal experiences of the supernatural are recounted, including eerie occurrences during the writing of horror novels.
🌿 The Dark Tales of Pishach and Yakshini Entities
This paragraph explores the concept of Pishach, spirits born from violent deaths, particularly in Hindu mythology. The role of Kuber, the demi-god governing Alka-Puri, is introduced alongside Yakshinis, who are depicted as demi-goddesses with the power to seduce and harm men. The narrative also touches upon the folklore of Judaels, witches arising from improper cremation rituals, and the cultural significance of these supernatural beings.
🚫 The Mysterious Tree of Bhubaneswar: A Paranormal Investigation
The account of a paranormal investigation in Bhubaneswar is recounted, where young men were inexplicably drawn to hang themselves from the same tree. Sarbajit and his team's exploration revealed a dark energy mass, psychic experiences, and unexplained phenomena. The story underscores the complexity of paranormal events and the challenges faced by investigators in understanding and dealing with such occurrences.
🌲 Spiritual Cleansing and the Science of the Paranormal
The conversation turns to methods of spiritual cleansing and the scientific approach to understanding the paranormal. The use of tools like K2 meters to detect electromagnetic fields is discussed as a means to infer ghostly presence. The limitations of scientific proof in this domain are acknowledged, and the need for further research and exploration of the unknown is emphasized.
🧙♀️ A Brush with Witchcraft: A Personal Encounter
The speaker narrates a personal experience involving witchcraft during a date with an individual interested in the occult. After feeling unwell following the encounter, the speaker consults a psychic friend who suggests a protective mantra and a saltwater bath to cleanse negative energy. The story illustrates the potential dangers of engaging with unknown spiritual practices and the importance of protection against such influences.
🔮 The Mystical Practices of Mayong: A Haven for Black Magic
The narrative concludes with an exploration of Mayong, a village in Assam known for its deep roots in black magic. The villagers are believed to use their craft for healing, and the area is steeped in mysticism. The speaker expresses a desire to visit and learn more about these practices, highlighting the allure of the unknown and the potential for positive applications of what is often considered dark magic.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Yakshinis
💡Judael
💡Paranormal Investigators
💡Poltergeist
💡Pishach
💡Horror Writer
💡Spiritual Realm
💡Unnatural Death
💡EMF (Electromagnetic Field)
💡Mantra Chanting
💡Witchcraft
Highlights
Yakshinis, demi-goddesses in Indian mythology, are believed to be both beautiful and evil, often seducing and harming men.
Judael and Diane are supernatural entities arising from women who die in childbirth or pregnancy without proper cremation rituals.
The podcast features horror writer Neil De Silva discussing his research and experiences with the paranormal.
Neil De Silva's interest in horror began with reading classic Gothic literature as a child.
The host and Neil share a common fear of the dark, which has influenced their creation of dark-themed content.
Paranormal investigators have varying theories about the nature of ghosts and their existence.
Some ghosts are believed to be good, while others turn evil due to unresolved issues or violent deaths.
The concept of Pishach from Hindu mythology represents ghosts created from violent deaths and harboring anger.
Poltergeists are mischievous spirits that cause disturbances but are not inherently evil.
Yakshinis are prevalent in Southern India, associated with beauty and potential evil after seduction.
Neil De Silva's writing of horror has seemingly attracted paranormal experiences into his life.
A chilling account of young men in a village mysteriously hanging themselves from the same tree due to a dark energy.
Paranormal investigators use various techniques and equipment to explore and understand hauntings.
The existence of spiritual wisdom and the darker side of spiritualism in India, including the belief in trees housing spirits.
The use of mantras and meditation in cleansing environments and individuals from dark energies.
The story of a personal encounter with potential witchcraft and the use of psychic protection methods.
The village of Mayong in Assam is considered the birthplace of black magic, known for its practitioners using it for healing.
The Ranvier Show aims to bring more dark content, including paranormal investigations and discussions on tantra.
Transcripts
judael and a diane they have a very
similar overlapping kind of
origin uh theory it is believed that
when a woman dies at childbirth
or when she is pregnant and if she is
not
cremated properly with all the rituals
and all
then because of what the latent desire
in her mind she turns into a student
and what happens in that reality she
will be on this earth
unsatisfied and she will not
be able to see the happiness of other
women
yakshinis are these demi goddesses they
are believed to also be on earth and
when they come here they are mostly in
their evil forms beautiful to look at
but then there is this one form of them
which you know once the seduction has
worn off then they come into this evil
form and they will of course their
victims are usually men
so this is one of the most interesting
guests that we've had on the show
we've also edited the podcast slightly
we've brought in
a little bit of music because i feel
like stories about ghosts horror stories
stories that scare you are best enjoyed
when it's slightly edited through the
power of filmmaking i hope you enjoyed
this slightly hey episode this one's
with neil de silva he's a horror writer
he's worked with paranormal
investigators and he's here to share
everything that his research has brought
to his own mind he's on the runway show
today lots of talk about ghosts lots of
talk about spirits lots of talk about
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this is nila silva
on the randy show speaking about horror
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i'm super pumped about this episode nina
silva welcome to trs so thank you so
much for having me on the show looking
forward to our chat i don't even know
where to start considering the number of
books you've written on subjects related
to the paranormal uh indian culture and
so many of your books
um you know i i genuinely don't know
where to begin this conversation i do
want to begin with excitement but at the
same time i want to make it atmospheric
and scary for our viewers
so how are you sir so i'm good i am
feeling well i have just had a long
drive so that's the only problem but
otherwise fine now it's a chilled chat
okay uh i write a lot of horror as well
like it's fiction that i haven't
published
and i write it because there's so many
experiences i have had in my own life as
well and i feel like anyone who writes
horror beat yourself be it stephen king
we either we're believers or we've had
some sort of childhood experiences with
the paranormal in order to even think
and i'm sure as is the case with every
author you're also a big reader and i'm
sure you're into reading horror reading
about the paranormal understanding these
subjects better so let me tell you how
it started for me the inclination
towards horror that was through reading
so even as a child you know when i was
in my grades seven and eight i read
edgar vallenpo
and dracula and frankenstein so those
were the books that attracted me those
were the that was the area where i weird
towards i read a lot of this gothic
stuff and coming from western authors so
those castles and the dark brooding
environment characters
who had this kind of
some
kind of problem in their lives they were
facing going to it so yeah that stayed
with me somewhere i think even as a when
you are reading these this kind of stuff
as a child there was no censorship in my
home for reading so when you are eating
this kind of stuff
i was not afraid of the stories
but somewhere i connected with them and
i felt like
uh like i wanted to create these kinds
of worlds myself so that is where it all
began
fear of the darkness i think a lot yeah
that's very common that's very common
and and what's weird is i had the same
and i'm also creating a lot of dark
ghost based content so that strong fear
of the dark has turned into art later on
in life but i think that's a catharsis
you know somewhere we face those fears
that's what i do so okay so i was quite
afraid of the
so afraid that i would not even go in
another room even though the whole
family was sitting here i would not go
in the next same
so i was terrified
now i would have this recurrent kind of
i would not say a dream but a kind of
vision that in the next room where it is
completely dark
from the ceiling a man
would come down and whoever goes there
he would he would you know grab that
person that was my phobia i would think
that some something will drop from the
ceiling and grab me
so this was the
experience that haunted me for two years
or so my own fears my own phobias that i
had growing up they have landed in my
books but in a different form you're
scaring other people now with what you
were scared of growing i'm just passing
it on
what do you think the nature of being a
host is
i've just heard that that realm is full
of suffering that reality is full of
suffering and
uh i mean where do you even turn
in order to get educated about ghosts
you can turn the philosophical books
into spiritual books the only thing i've
learned is that
when you have an unnatural death before
your time has actually come to that you
spend the remainder of that time
in this realm as a ghost and this is
from
books like the garud puran autobiography
of yogi all these books talk about these
occult realities but what do you think
so yeah there is a strong spiritual
connect to all this
uh
when i started out as uh when i was
writing horror my initial works were all
fiction
make believe words
make believe monsters of course i wrote
about agorys in my first book
but that is again based on research
when i started writing about ghosts
that was the time when i also started
studying more about the whole world i
met paranormal investigators people who
are actually working day in and day out
to find the truth behind this and
the surprising thing is no two
paranormal investigators also will have
the same theory for ghosts they will
think
some they will have some nuance that is
different
so what i have come to the conclusion is
after writing you know books like
vijayalani have written haunted with
serbajeet mohanty i've written the
spirits talk to me both very different
in their mindset in their way of
thinking like you can explain the
differences jay is more of a rationalist
jayalani he's a more of a rationalist so
he's
he believes that there is a lot of blind
faith and superstition worked into the
paranormal world a part of it is real a
part of it really is the occult is
really the paranormal what we say but
the major part of it at least in india
is uh
you know just a commercial
commercially propagated
thing so like people who are believing
in black magic and all
using it to make a quick buck
so that is jai's belief so jai is trying
to find out where the real paranormal
lies
and what part of it is fake so i'll come
to that
sarbajit on the other hand he believes
that paranormal energies are all around
us
which is also part of jai's belief but
cyberjet believes that these energies
are a kind of a
other dimension
which is here right now in this room as
well they can see us
we cannot interact with them do you
think your chase for writing horror has
attracted horror into your life
it has that's that's what people do tell
me that's what people do tell me that
when you try to write about their world
they come to know that you are writing
about their voice yeah i'm because i've
been writing a lot of horror lately and
i have been feeling
creeped out i don't know how else to
explain it but anyways i'll go on and
what i mean by creeped out is very weird
dreams yeah so that happens a lot
not just the dreams the dreams are yeah
okay dreams do happen because your mind
is still working when you are asleep
but i have had real experiences
uh
this one time i was in goa i was i had
booked a cottage
on the other side of kalangguk which is
a very lonely kind of place desolate
place i like that place because of its
vibe
so i was writing a book there a horror
novel i was in the middle of this
particularly horrifying scene which
required all my attention so my eye was
only on that 13-inch mac
and i was just looking there nowhere
else and i felt something cold past my
from behind i just felt it and it was so
material
you know usually ghosts are just like an
illusion in your peripheral sight but
this was very material i could feel that
something happened
and
then i just looked around and light
started flickering
the lights were flickering quite bad you
know it was not like a normal
fluctuation
i went out of the room to see the other
places everyone was asleep but the other
lobby lights and everything was quite
okay only my room was the one flickering
so these kinds of things
do happen i think
it comes in you somewhere
what do paranormal investigators
say about the presence of
ghosts
first of all are all ghosts evil or good
no no some ghosts are good no i think
the majority of them are good okay but
then which are the ghosts which are
the evil ghosts i think from what i have
heard from all these experiences from
the paranormal investigators uh
the ghosts that have something left in
their lives
in their current life something that
they wanted to do or
those who those who had an unjust kind
of death
and murder
murders because they are mostly
dead by some violence some kind of
violence there has been violence either
throughout their lives or in their death
so
there is this concept of peshach
the ghoul
that we have our hindu mythology so the
pischach is believed to be
created when a man dies a very violent
death in a surge of anger
so if suppose you kill me
and i'm very angry that you killed me
but i can't do anything and you just
have to die i will probably become a
bishop
so this is where
the ghosts turn evil and once
poltergeist
older guys suggest noisy ghosts they are
they are not evil
so the experiences of poltergeists that
i have chronicled uh i have seen that
they are not evil they are mischievous
they are naughty they try to disorient
you and they try to somehow
uh sap your energies
but they will not kill you poltergeist
they hardly
kill
but bishaj can pishaj can have you heard
firsthand accounts of bisharch hauntings
not of pishach but there are certain
other
creatures i could say entities that i
have worked with
one of my books is yakshini
so yakshinis are very prevalent in the
south of india kind of demi-goddesses
and they are believed to reside in a
realm somewhere between
earth and heaven
so they are in alka-puri that is a realm
governed by kuber what is what is what
are these words
kuber is uh in fact rahman's brother the
brother of lord raven and he
is supposed uh to
protect all the wealth of this world
in this on this earth so he has a big
hood
and uh
he's like indra but in a demigod version
for international listeners raven is the
mega villain of ramayana yeah the
ramayana which is an indian epic
who you're supposed to be the king of
the rakshasas or the demons yakshinis
are these demi goddesses
they are believed to also be
on earth so sometimes they just meander
and they come to earth and when they
come here they are mostly in their evil
forms
so they would like they are very
voluptuous they are very
beautiful to look at but then there is
this one form of them which you know
once the seduction has worn off then
they come into this evil form and they
will of course their victims are usually
men and that is how you actually
function but there were so many folklore
uh folklore tales
of people having sighted
yakshinis and judaels and ions so these
are all
our supernatural creatures that we talk
about judael is witch
trudel is a kind of a witch but
basically a judael and a diane they have
a very similar overlapping kind of
origin
theory it is believed that when a woman
dies at childbirth
or when she is pregnant and if she is
not
cremated properly with all the rituals
and all
then because of the latent desire in her
mind she turns into a judeh
and what happens in that reality so once
that person becomes a child then she
will be on this earth
unsatisfied and she will not
be able to see the happiness of other
women so it's a kind of a vengeful host
not a ghost i would say an entity okay
and dying
almost similar lines okay so this is
based on the you know like the region
where we are coming from but they are
very similar lots of parallels um
um
what's the scariest ghost story you've
heard in someone else's life maybe
someone near you has there been
an account that just freaked the [ __ ]
out of you
okay so this uh really happened when i
was writing the spirits talk to me
so it's a co-authored book sir bhajit
panti he was my co-author and he's a
paranormal investigator so the concept
of the book was
10 stories of his real life explorations
what he had done
so he sent me the first story which was
his real story is a real account so in
bhubaneshwar outskirts of it was a small
village and in that village there was a
very strange phenomenon happening
which was
young guys
very eligible young boys they would just
wake up in the middle of the night
walk out of their houses
cross the main highway
there was a forest on the other side
they would go to the forest
wherein there was a tree a huge tree
they would just hang themselves on the
tree
and this happened multiple times with a
lot of boys in that
same village
nobody knew why it happened why the same
tree but it was kind of an expected
thing that every few days you are going
to find a boy hanging from it
sarvajit went to explore it with his
team he got all this
he has got a lot of paranormal stuff
that he uses so equipment i would say so
he took that he went he explored and he
found this
huge mass of black energy dark energy
he could sense it because he has
psychics on his team so this is
something that normal people do have a
sense of but to a very small extent like
when you get creeped out in a particular
we get creeped out we would just
describe it as i got creeped out i do
not know what happened i would just say
a shadow past and i don't know what it
is
but if you are a psychic and after
talking to psychics
like puja
sarvaji's partner puja
she's a psychic so when i spoke to her
she could actually visualize those
things she could actually see a form
so she felt that there were yes there
was a lot of sadness that happened in
the tree what that sadness was we don't
know
and that's not that's beyond the point
because it must have happened 500 years
ago 1000 years ago we don't know but now
that latent energy that
is around the tree
and because sarbaji then puja they went
there with the mission of finding out
what's the truth about the tree they had
to find a lot they had to face a lot of
difficulties there like
there was a kind of
what how should i explain it a kind of a
small mini tornado
which engulfed the whole tree while they
were there
which was quite unheard of in those
places they heard
voices and they could actually see like
people
like how they show in hollywood movies
the long black shadows the tall ones so
they actually saw all that stuff
so when the villagers would one would go
to cut the tree the tree would not allow
itself to be cut there would be kind of
that person would fall sick
the wood cutter or something and a tree
cannot be cut in a single day so the day
that he would try to cut it that evening
he would fall sick and not
so they they understood that the tree
does not want to be cut the tree still
stands
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we had dr radhakrishnan on the show
yesterday where we spoke about uh the
atharvaved and how it contains a lot of
elements of black magic as well and you
know occult sciences he spoke about uh
these elements like trees
lemon lemon chili lemon and chili that's
one of my books again okay um
you know in again india is one of those
countries where there's so much
spiritual wisdom everywhere there is a
whole spiritual world in our country but
then this is also this underbelly of
spiritualism which is this whole awkward
side of things where
uh in when you're growing up in india
often especially when you're traveling
around the country they tell you not to
urinate on a tree yeah have you heard
this before yeah
but i don't know about it they say that
trees can house spirits
trees are a sort of safe
heaven right for
spirits and that spirit can kind of
possess you if
you urinate on it i don't know how true
that is
i've not urinated on a tree yet
so i don't know but
uh what do you make of all this what
i've heard is i have heard something
similar to this not about urinating but
not to walk under a tree especially a
banyan tree at night yeah banyan
that is the hanging
kind of a ghost a ghost which hangs from
a tree like a gargoyle it makes it looks
like a gargoyle but
would be very different because of vital
usually does not have usually does not
have a form again a vital is a man who
has died
and
because of some unfulfilled wishes he
stays attached
to a tree because a tree is a very
permanent kind of thing right so it
stays there
so that's what a beta is and uh vital is
supposed to again haunt the people who
pass by
even travel with them to their homes
and then jeopardize their entire
lifestyle
create havoc
when the man is dead it returns back to
the tree
in one of the stories you spoke about um
how you depossess a person or you
cleanse an environment
even in the movie exhaust where you know
they hold a cross against a ghost
uh
in islam there's talk of jinns and how
you know again there's a spiritual
element that's what malwares do
or in order to kind of cleanse a place
uh even in hinduism there is an element
of chanting and meditation which cleans
environments
is that how you counter these kind of
dark energies according to you there's
somewhere i think people have used those
things and there has been a kind of a
benefit
like the people that i talk about joy
aligning for instance when jai goes
there what he usually does is he tries
to find out what's the root cause of
this entire thing now in many of the
cases the root cause is a human being
playing mischief because that also
happens there's some blind faith
somewhere
or
sometimes you just latch on to what that
place is from which is the epicenter
because there's always an epicenter of
all these things if a haunting is
happening in a particular area then
there is one thing that is causing that
haunting which i have seen a lot in jail
stories
so like in one of his stories there was
a
curio you know kind of a souvenir which
a person had bought from a foreign
country
and that had a spirit in it and because
of that that guy had a terrible
motorcycle accident
he got disfigured he lost his wife
because of that and uh
later on it was found that the whole
epicenter of it was that particular
curio which was carrying that
what was the souvenir it was a kind of a
cup i suppose just a very harmless
looking mug
but it had been possessed by so there
were these objects also that we talked
about you since you spoke about
conjuring
so the people the warrens they have they
had this whole museum
which had all these uh artifacts i think
we'll have to give the listener some
context here so i think in the conjuring
towards the end of the movie they call
uh
de-possession experts i don't know what
to call them paranormal investigators
who kind of helped clean up a place uh
if you know it's it's deeply haunted
yeah and that was the lawrences that was
the warrens warrants
ed and lorraine
so
oh the warrants okay
so uh the warrens have a museum that
contains all these artifacts
they've just kept them there i would not
want to enter that museum including
including the very famous annabelle doll
that's still there today that's still
there okay
the movie series we are also making
ourselves vulnerable to the other world
because they are listening to us they
know that we are
interested in them so therefore you have
to be ready because the ghost
possibly such entities might
decide to show themselves to you
that could happen because they know that
you are trying to
you know somewhere conjure them yeah and
probably you need to be ready for it
yourself also you need to be ready for
it you know as i kept meditating in life
like my meditations kept becoming deeper
and i kept feeling more and more
fearless towards these entities like the
same entities that created so much
deeper i should not sleep alone until i
was like 21 22.
at the same time yes same same same yeah
i i still i don't know i'm not
comfortable when i hear that there is a
death somewhere around me because i have
this very morbid fear of dead bodies
and i had that even when my dad expired
and uh
i was petrified when his body was to
come home but not because of any other
reason but
somehow uh
you know death plays on my mind in some
ways and i feel that a person has gone
to a world which is unknown
so somewhere it's like this vortex that
pulls me in
yeah no i i hear you and you know over
the course of this show and talking to
people like yourself and doctor
radhakrishnan just figured that there is
a science behind this it's just that the
world of science as we know it has not
put in enough time effort research into
these things like you can't just
discount it as otherworldly i feel
that's old school thinking i think the
real reason here is because there is no
evidence
science it depends i'm a science person
i'm a post graduate in organic chemistry
so
all of my life as a student was spent in
formulas and you know wanting proof
seeing proof
but
now i know that there is no way that you
can prove these things how can you prove
another world which is just energy the
engineer in me wants to counter you with
the question of electromagnetic fields
like yes there are devices to uh
measure the amount of electromagnetism
uh in a particular meters that they are
called as the k2 meters and
what does that device specifically do
like in terms of it just detects the emf
around the space like if there were
typically the very simple model of a k2
meter would have like five lights
and one light would be always blinking
because there is always an
electromagnetic frequency field around
us so that would always be blinking but
sometimes if suppose this is a live
buyer now if i go near it it will be up
to two lights or something like that but
there are certain things certain places
like somewhere in the deep of the jungle
suddenly all five lights will come on
now there's no reason why there should
be an emf there
but then they come on so this is how it
works now again this is an observed
proof but you do not know what is
causing it yet
you infer that it may be a ghostly
entity
but have you seen the ghostly entity no
you are just making an inference
so that is where i feel that still we
have that disconnect
and
till the time
we do not actually
see ghosts see a ghost like with our
eyes i normalize
i experience a ghost or experience
experiences are again individual
so my experience the world may not
believe it they will just debunk it i'm
talking about the people who do not
believe in such kind of things but then
you know technology is
advancing by leaps and bounds like i
just saw on twitter yesterday that uh in
japan there was a tech
to record our dreams and play back to
play those back to us so there is a
technology for that now so i'm sure that
um you know something might happen but
yeah as you also said
we need to have that drive
to do something in this field if you had
any experiences with witchcraft at all
no not really i would not say that okay
and then that's a story for the next
time i have a story i've actually been
at the receiving end of witchcraft okay
for a moment
uh
okay so
i went on a
date like it was off of a dating app
this happened three four years ago maybe
um
first date it was fine i made it clear
that i didn't want anything romantic but
i was open to meeting again as in i
didn't want a casual relationship also
lots of people use dating apps to just
kind of get to know new people and that
was my intention i met an older person
i didn't pick up anything the first time
i met her i was also kind of i'd just
broken up so i was rebounding i think
wasn't really looking for anything but i
just felt a normal good conversation
the second time i met her
um
she said that i had a lot of fun the
last thing but i can't believe that
you didn't observe something because the
first time i met we spoke about
spiritualism we spoke about these larger
than life concepts you know intuition
things like that she's like your
intuition didn't pick up that i'm kind
of into witchcraft
so then i said um no not really but i
also got interested
in terms of what is going to happen you
okay
now let's dial back a year or two before
this happened
i have a friend who is
a strong psychic
he's a high level sidekick he's a good
friend of mine
uh when we were in a part of delhi once
upon a time and he claims that delhi is
one of the most haunted places because
it's one of the oldest
cities in the world technically
and it's seen a lot of
battles over centuries
so he claims that there's a lot of angst
and um
pain in delhi because of the ghosts of
the people and all that so sometimes
when i'm just walking with this guy in
delhi in the daytime he'll start doing
this
he'll rub his hands like
and this
he loudly clapped
and he continued rubbing his hands
and the first few times he had done that
in front of me
i looked at him and asked him why are
you doing that
and he said no nothing
and he'd keep doing this
at some other part of the road
so then i bothered him i asked him why
are you doing this
and he said i'm
sort of just creating a protective field
i'm like sending things away that's all
he told me i don't even know what that
means
okay
now let's come back to this story
um
now this girl
i was on sort of i won't call it a date
but i was meeting with the second time
and that shop was shutting so she said
okay what do you want to do now so i
said let's go somewhere
so then she told me okay let's go to
juhu beach
or this particular part of bandstand
or this particular part of carter road
you know that part of cart road there
now the weird thing is i've had a
conversation with that same psychic
friend about these three locations that
she named
and he said that he's had some kind of
ghost encounters in those three
locations
so normal person would have said no i
don't want to go with you and i'm going
home
i wanted content
so
i said okay
uh let's let's do this
okay uh so we decided to go to carter
road
now we got off on carter road and we
decided to walk along the promenade and
it was relatively empty as compared to
what it is normally
okay now we're walking
and maybe 10 seconds 15 seconds into
walking this woman does this
and then i'm on high alert a little bit
i don't know what she's doing
so we keep walking
and we sit down on this particular part
of cartoon where there are people but
it's still got a slight creepy vibe
i don't want to name what part of carter
it is because it might cause a lot of
frenzy online
but it's a populated part
so we're sitting there
i go into my
spiritualism
realm okay because i've had awkward
experiences in my life which i've spoken
about on the show as well i've had a
very strong sleep paralysis experience
which turned out to be something real
eventually hasn't i
someone else had some another psychic
had come to my house and told me that
yes the experience you had had
was real so i i've dealt with these
things before
according to me
and the way i'd come out of it was
through mantra chanting when i was a kid
someone taught me a mantra which had
worked for me
now i knew that i'm dealing with
another occult experience here
so when i sat down with her in my head
i'm just doing a mantra job to sort of
protect myself
it was the same mantra job that had
helped me as a kid
now while i was sitting with her
we were just having a very loose kind of
conversation it was interesting but it
wasn't really interesting it was small
talk
and she wasn't really
talking much through this
for some reason i was talking a lot in
the same way that i'm doing now you know
she'd ask me a small question
and then whatever i'd give her something
and then she'd always end it with like a
yes or no
uh kind of question
where i would have to answer in a yes
one
and as i kept talking to her i must have
sat there with her for like half an hour
i just kept feeling more and more dizzy
and i didn't know what the [ __ ] is going
on
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i just felt a strong gut feeling to
leave from there after half an hour
because i was really just i was feeling
tired or dizzy i don't know what it was
so
i told her okay i'm going
i booked her
and ola i booked myself an uber okay
you're going in two separate directions
when i sat in the uber i'm still feeling
busy
and i hadn't told anybody not my
co-founders not my manager nobody not my
teams
now the psychic friend calls me homeless
okay and he's like who are you with
so i'm like why
she said no just tell me who you with
so i said
um
just i met someone he's like i strongly
feel someone's done something to you
there's some kind of dark aura on you
what have you done
and then i told him that this happened
so he said okay wait he gave me a mantra
he texted me something
and he told me wherever you are right
now meditate in that vehicle
and just focus on that mantra
and i swear to god my head was spinning
in that vehicle as i was meditating and
i was doing that
i didn't know what the [ __ ]
happened
when i went home he told me some more
things he said have a
salt water bath and yeah all that i
don't have you heard of the salted water
salt water is quite common it's supposed
to wash off negative energy
yeah i don't i don't know what it is but
i am a meditator i'm married for an hour
daily and i've been doing this for years
now
that night when i sat for meditation
um
now here's the kind of meditation i do
right like it's deeply technical and i
kind of intuitively know when to stop
doing it because sometimes your body
doesn't
isn't ready to go to a deeper level of
meditation
so i get an intuition and i gently stop
but on this day when i was meditating
i didn't get out of it gently at the
peak of my meditation i felt like
someone took a long pin and just shoved
it into my finger
and i have no idea what that meant
i asked him
i think he knew
that something was on but he refused to
tell me what it was he's like if i tell
you you may not want to meditate again
and all but just forget it and keep
meditating
that was it i never spoke to that lady
again but i also like kind of cut her
off wrong it sounded like some voodoo
stuff
i don't know what it was
and she knew who i was and um
i think she was in the quest for fame
that's what i
gauged from her
uh and they say that black magic can be
used to take something that someone else
owns and bring it to yourself youth
money kind of thing
i don't know what it was so that's been
my experience with witchcraft and saying
that there is a whole positive angle of
witchcraft there are positive which is
uh
in the modern day that's a whole other
subject
but yeah that's my experience
yes we'll get into that positive thing
because there is also a lot to speak uh
i don't know if you have heard of the
village of mayong in assam no so that's
believed to be the birthplace of black
magic it's in assam and uh where in
assam is in neo-gohan
so there it's believed that every one
day
is a practitioner of black magic and
they use it for healing
they use it for healing there's
something in the land that makes things
happen
so people with all these kinds of
ailments
they go there and there are these
tantrics and ojas and stuff
we'll do some mantra on you and cleanse
you spiritually a trip to assam
has been a long-standing wish for the
same reason i wish to explore this world
it's there's a lot of mysticism
even other indian says bengal also has a
lot that's right
is very popular in bengal horror
literature i mean
being an author i know that
neil de silva this was a great episode
uh i do think there's more to unpack and
we hope to have you again on the show i
hope it was a good experience for you
thank you so much for having me on the
show and we it was fun fun talking to
you fun
sharing my experiences and listening to
yours
i hope your audiences also enjoy this oh
no i think we're too like-minded
slightly messed up dudes that we all are
uh
just great getting to know you sir thank
you thanks
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