Martyrs ending finally SOLVED!!! | Deep analysis and multiple theories. 💀
Summary
TLDRThe video script delves into the psychological horror film 'Martyrs,' discussing its disturbing nature and the film's ability to provoke existential fear. It contrasts 'Martyrs' with other horror films like 'The Human Centipede' and 'A Serbian Film,' which are often deemed gross or shocking but lack the psychological depth. The script explores various theories about the movie's ending, suggesting that the true horror lies in the characters' suffering and the film's unresolved narrative, leaving viewers with a sense of unease and a profound existential crisis.
Takeaways
- 🎬 The video discusses the difficulty of finding genuinely scary and disturbing movies, often being disappointed by films hyped as 'the most disturbing thing you'll ever see'.
- 🔍 The script mentions that 'Cannibal Holocaust' was the first found footage horror movie, leading to its director's arrest due to its convincing realism.
- 🤢 It argues that 'The Human Centipede' and 'A Serbian Film' are often cited as disturbing but are more gross-out or parody than genuinely unsettling.
- 🧠 The importance of psychological horror over visceral gore in creating a truly disturbing film is highlighted, with 'Martyrs' being an example that pushes the limits of suffering.
- 🎭 The script suggests that the key to a disturbing movie is making it unpleasant to watch, with 'Martyrs' being a film that, despite its intensity, only needs to be seen once.
- 👻 The theory that 'Martyrs' could be interpreted in various ways, including the possibility that the entire film is a hallucination or that the cult is actually fighting supernatural forces, is explored.
- 🔮 The idea that the hallucinations experienced in 'Martyrs' might be real and part of a curse related to forbidden knowledge of the afterlife is presented.
- 🤔 The script questions the definition of a 'martyr' within the context of the film, suggesting that perhaps only one character truly fits the bill.
- 💡 It proposes that the cult in 'Martyrs' might be demon hunters or have a purpose beyond what is revealed, using torture to extract information from those infected by supernatural forces.
- 🔚 The ending of 'Martyrs' is noted for its abruptness, leaving many questions unanswered and suggesting multiple possible interpretations of the cult's motives and the consequences of their actions.
Q & A
What is the speaker's opinion on movies that are labeled as 'disturbing'?
-The speaker believes that very few movies are genuinely scary and even fewer are disturbing or uncomfortable to watch every time. They often find that movies hyped as 'the most disturbing thing you'll ever see' fail to live up to that reputation.
What was the public's reaction to 'Cannibal Holocaust' when it was released?
-When 'Cannibal Holocaust' was released, many people thought it was real because of its convincing found footage style and the director's marketing strategy, which included the actors not making public appearances until after the movie's release.
Why does the speaker consider 'The Human Centipede' not disturbing?
-The speaker views 'The Human Centipede' as a gross-out horror movie with campy acting and strange characters, which is not meant to be taken seriously, and thus not disturbing.
What aspect of 'A Serbian Film' makes the speaker unable to take it seriously?
-The speaker finds 'A Serbian Film' too ridiculous with fake characters and unnatural story elements, and lacking the courage to show truly disturbing content, making it feel like a parody rather than a disturbing film.
What does the speaker believe is key to making a movie truly disturbing?
-The speaker believes that the key to a disturbing movie is to accentuate existential elements and make the movie unpleasant to watch, rather than focusing solely on visceral gore.
Why does the speaker consider 'Martyrs' the most disturbing film?
-The speaker considers 'Martyrs' the most disturbing because it pushes the limits of suffering and psychological torture, making the audience feel hopeless without providing an emotional or narrative resolution.
What is the speaker's interpretation of the ending of 'Martyrs'?
-The speaker suggests that what Anna might have said to make Mademoiselle kill herself could be related to seeing heaven and the realization that the only way to get there is through self-sacrifice, thus checking all the required boxes for the character's actions.
What alternative theory does the speaker propose about the hallucinations in 'Martyrs'?
-The speaker proposes that the hallucinations might be real manifestations from another dimension, possibly as a consequence of trying to see into the afterlife, and that this could be a form of supernatural punishment.
Why does the speaker think the cult in 'Martyrs' might not be evil?
-The speaker suggests that the cult might be demon hunters or ghostbusters, torturing specific people to force the hallucinations to show themselves and provide information on how to close the doors to the afterlife.
What is the speaker's take on the term 'martyr' in the context of the movie?
-The speaker questions the use of the term 'martyr' for the characters in the movie, as none of them fit the traditional criteria of a martyr, and proposes that perhaps Mademoiselle is the true martyr in the story.
What unresolved questions does the speaker have about the plot of 'Martyrs'?
-The speaker questions why the characters stay in the house after the killings, why Mademoiselle would tell everyone to come to the house if she was going to kill herself, and the true beliefs and objectives of the cult.
Outlines
🎬 The Illusion of Disturbing Cinema
The speaker begins by discussing the difficulty in finding genuinely scary movies and the even rarer occurrence of films that are disturbing or uncomfortable to watch repeatedly. They express disappointment with movies that are hyped as the most disturbing but fail to live up to that reputation. The speaker then critiques films like 'A Serbian Film' and 'The Human Centipede' for not being as disturbing as they are claimed to be, suggesting that their shock value is more about gross-out humor than true terror. They also touch on the concept of the uncanny valley in relation to excessive gore in films, arguing that it can detract from the horror rather than enhance it. The segment concludes with the assertion that a truly disturbing movie should be unpleasant to watch, and the speaker shares their belief that 'Martyrs' achieves this level of discomfort due to its psychological torture and lack of narrative resolution.
🔪 The Subversion and Twists of 'Martyrs'
The second paragraph delves into the plot of 'Martyrs,' highlighting its numerous twists and subversions that keep the viewer guessing until the end. The story is described as starting with a young girl named Lucy escaping from a torturous secret society, leading to her life in an orphanage and her subsequent violent actions as an adult. The speaker discusses the film's raw and direct storytelling, the development of its characters, and the natural flow of its plot. However, they also point out some inconsistencies, such as the characters' decisions to stay in a house after a violent incident. The paragraph concludes with the speaker's analysis of the film's ending, suggesting that what the character Anna says to the cult leader could have multiple interpretations, but ultimately leads to a puzzling and thought-provoking conclusion.
🤔 The Theories and Interpretations of 'Martyrs'
In this paragraph, the speaker explores various theories and interpretations of 'Martyrs,' starting with the idea that the entire story might be happening in the protagonist's head. They discuss the possibility that the characters Lucy and Anna could be the same person, supported by details such as their simultaneous panic attacks and the director's use of similar themes in other films. The speaker also considers the idea that the cult in 'Martyrs' might be demon hunters or ghostbusters, suggesting that their actions are part of a larger, hidden battle against supernatural forces. They propose that the hallucinations experienced by the characters could be real manifestations of these forces, leading to tragic consequences for those who learn too much about the afterlife. The paragraph ends with the speaker questioning the nature of the protagonist and the true identity of the real 'Martyr' in the story.
💥 The Consequences of Forbidden Knowledge in 'Martyrs'
The speaker continues to unpack the themes of 'Martyrs,' focusing on the idea of forbidden knowledge and its consequences. They liken the film to H.P. Lovecraft's work, where characters often face tragedy after delving into the unknown. The speaker suggests that the process of creating a 'martyr' in the film might be a way to desensitize them to pain, allowing them to see into the afterlife without being overwhelmed by supernatural hallucinations. They propose that knowing about the afterlife might carry a curse, causing those who learn too much to be driven to suicide. The paragraph also explores the possibility that the cult members are not the villains but are instead trying to prevent the spread of dangerous knowledge, possibly by torturing those who have been exposed to it. The speaker concludes by questioning the definition of a martyr within the context of the film and pondering the true nature of the cult's beliefs and goals.
🏆 The Cult's Beliefs and the True 'Martyr' in 'Martyrs'
In the final paragraph, the speaker theorizes about the cult's beliefs and the identity of the true 'martyr' in 'Martyrs.' They suggest that the cult leader, Mademoiselle, might have been planning to commit suicide all along, believing that her death would absolve the sins of the other cult members and grant her access to the afterlife. The speaker questions why Mademoiselle would gather everyone at the house if she intended to kill herself, proposing that her death might have been part of a prophecy or a fulfillment of a deeper, cult-related purpose. They also consider the possibility that the film's ending was meant to be more conclusive, but the final act was cut short, leaving the story open-ended. The paragraph concludes with the speaker reaffirming that Mademoiselle is the true martyr of the story, as her death carries significant meaning within the context of the cult's beliefs.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Disturbing
💡Found Footage
💡Uncanny Valley
💡Gore
💡Martyrs
💡Psychological Torture
💡Cult
💡Hallucination
💡Subversion
💡Afterlife
💡Sacrifice
Highlights
The speaker discusses the rarity of genuinely scary and disturbing movies, challenging the reputation of films like 'A Serbian Film' and 'Cannibal Holocaust'.
The impact of 'Cannibal Holocaust' as the first found footage horror movie, leading to the director's arrest due to its convincing realism.
Critique of 'The Human Centipede' as a gross-out horror movie rather than genuinely disturbing.
Analysis of 'A Serbian Film' as a parody with unrealistic elements that prevent full immersion.
The importance of the uncanny valley in the perception of gore and its effect on the audience's reaction to disturbing content.
The definition of a disturbing movie as one that is unpleasant to watch, with a focus on psychological rather than visceral elements.
The psychological impact of 'Martyrs' and its unique approach to the portrayal of suffering and torture.
The lack of a cathartic resolution in 'Martyrs', leaving the audience in a state of despair.
The exploration of the fantasy fulfillment in horror movies and the subversion of expectations in 'Martyrs'.
The raw and immersive storytelling in 'Martyrs', with a focus on the film's pacing and character development.
The puzzling and open-ended conclusion of 'Martyrs', inviting various interpretations and theories.
The potential interpretation of 'Martyrs' as a story of forbidden knowledge and its consequences, drawing parallels to Lovecraftian themes.
The possibility of 'Martyrs' being a story of a single person's hallucinations, suggesting a twist similar to 'High Tension'.
The role of the cult in 'Martyrs' and the speculation about their true motives and beliefs.
The idea that the cult members in 'Martyrs' could be demon hunters, adding a supernatural layer to their actions.
The concept of martyrdom in the context of the film and the debate over who the true martyr is.
The potential religious and supernatural beliefs of the cult, suggesting a deeper meaning to their actions and the ending of 'Martyrs'.
Transcripts
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we have such SES to show you there's
very few movies that I would call
genuinely scary and there's even fewer
still that I would consider disturbing
or uncomfortable to watch every time
I've been told a movie was going to be
the most disturbing thing you'll ever
see or so Extreme as band in 26
countries always end up being
disappointed because they never live up
to that reputation the human centipede a
Serbian film and cannibal Hol
are on every top 10 most disturbing
movies list but I never thought any of
those were disturbing at all Cannibal
Holocaust was the first found footage
horror movie ever so when it came out a
lot of people thought it was real and
this is still true today because
whenever anybody talks about it it's
never about the plot or the characters
it's always about if people really died
in the movie today everybody knows that
found footage is a gimmick but it was so
convincing in 1980 that the director
ended up getting arrested for murder you
see the director was ahead of his time
because not only did he Market it as
real found footage but he had all all of
his actors agreed to not do any public
appearances until after the movie was
out for a while so the only reason
anybody thought it was disturbing in the
first place was because of a genius
gimmic and genius marketing that tricked
everyone into thinking it was real The
Human Centipede is another one that
people call disturbing but it's really
just a gross out horror movie that's not
even supposed to be scary it has campy
acting strange characters and a concept
that's not supposed to be taken
seriously so I have to put it in the
same category as Tusk or ich the killer
I mean how could I think this is
disturbing when people are always
talking about eating
nowadays a Serbian film is another movie
that I can't take seriously because
there's way too many ridiculous scenes
that make it feel like a parody the
characters feel fake the story doesn't
feel natural and it doesn't even have
the balls to actually show us the
disturbing stuff and it's not even shot
in that grainy 8 mm film quality that
would have made it feel more like a real
snuff film so there's a part of me that
can never be fully immersed in the story
because I know it's just a movie that's
trying really hard to be edgy it's kind
of like a movie from a Rick and Morty
parallel universe where everything is
centered around sex so instead of the
usual old special forces guy using his
training to rescue his family their
version of an action movie is an old
porn star that has to come out of
retirement to save his wife and kids and
he has to use his porn star skills to do
it well that's just silly I think it
would have been better with a grittier
appearance because the editing is too
sharp and the cinematography is too
artistic so it kind of feels like
natural-born Killers there's a very thin
line that a filmmaker has to walk when
it comes to showing Gore or things that
people might find disturbing because
when it comes to seeing disturbing
things our brains try to protect us with
this uncanny valley type of fil
now it's not exactly the same but it is
a primitive defense mechanism that makes
excessive Gore more amusing than
horrifying so it kind of looks silly
when there's too much blood or too many
chopped up body parts so the key to a
disturbing movie isn't so much about the
visceral elements as much as it's about
accentuating the existential things of
course this is always going to be a
subjective topic because there's a
spectrum of what everybody can handle
but I think the one thing a disturbing
movie has to be is unpleasant to watch
there's a lot of movies that have
disturbing scenes but because they make
up such a small amount of the overall
movie it's easy easy to see them as
entertaining and not something that will
make you want to turn the movie off or
walk out of the theater now in my
opinion Martyrs is the most disturbing
film you'll ever see but not for the
same reasons that other movies are
called disturbing it's not the blood or
the death or even the woman with the
straight razor the part that everyone
finds uncomfortable is the psychological
side of the torture Martyrs pushes the
limits of suffering in a way that's
never been done before because it forces
us to feel hopeless just like the
characters and it never gives us an
emotional or narrative resolution so if
you were hoping to have some cathar
rewarding experience at the end you're
going to be terribly disappointed with
this one because nobody in the story
gets to win part of why we like horror
movies so much is the fantasy
fulfillment that comes with seeing
people survive because we tell ourselves
that if we were in a similar situation
we would survive too I really love this
movie because of how immersive and raw
it feels but because the entire
experience is pretty unpleasant it's the
type of movie that you only really need
to see once although there's some
unavoidable similarities to other films
Martyrs is one of the few that feels
fresh and original but it's also the
type of idea that can never become a
franchise well it could if someone like
me got to write it because I think I
could easily turn this into a Trilogy
and flesh out some of the details and
the ambiguous Parts about the cult and
what they're actually trying to do but
for now this is just a film festival
type of movie that'll never have a wi
fan base because it'll only appeal to
the most hardcore horror fans so what is
Martyr about the film opens with a young
girl named Lucy running away from a
warehouse where she was being tortured
by a secret society that belongs in a
Hellraiser movie she ends up in an
orphanage where she meets Anna and even
though she tries to make her feel safe
she can't protect her from the Demonic
woman that torments her at night and
then in one of the best setups for a
subversion it cuts to a family having
breakfast before a grownup Lucy busts in
and kills everyone with a shotgun this
scene is a great representation of
exactly why this movie is so special
because every scene is raw and straight
to the point so there's never a single
moment of wasted time in the story this
is also a perfect subversion of
expectations a happy family being gunned
down with no build up or explanation is
the most unexpected thing that could
have happened but before we even have
time to process what happened the story
takes yet another unexpected turn when
the Demonic woman that haunted Lucy as a
kid shows up and starts beating her and
cutting her with a razor she calls Anna
to come and help her and this is when we
learned why she killed his family Lucy
is convinced that these people are the
ones that tortured her as a kid but you
get the feeling that this isn't the
first family she's killed this movie is
full of so many twists and subversions
that you really don't know what the
story is about until near the end so the
first time you see the woman you don't
know if this is a supernatural horror
movie and ghosts and demons are going to
be part of the story The Woman ends up
being a hallucination so everything we
saw her doing to Lucy she was actually
doing to herself the film making up to
this point has been Flawless the
characters are perfectly developed the
pacing and action are immersive and the
plot details feel natural and easy to
understand the only real problem I have
with the plot is I can't figure out why
they stayed in the house so long after
everyone was dead they don't have any
connection to these people and nobody
even knows who they are so why are they
trying to clean up and hide the bodies
like they live there it gets even more
confusing when Anna stays in the house
overnight after Lucy kills herself but I
didn't notice this until I was making
the video so it's easy for me to see the
minor flaws when I have time to analyze
it but the pacing is so smooth that you
can't help but be fully immersed in
every scene you get the feeling that
Anna didn't really believe this family
tortured Lucy so when she finds the
secret door that leads to the basement
you kind of forget about how stupid it
is for her to still be there but if
staying in the house wasn't dumb enough
she does probably the dumbest thing that
I've ever seen in a horror movie I don't
know what she was expecting to find or
why she needs to do this but instead of
running away from this house immediately
after seeing these pictures she decides
to go down deep her into a locked sub
basement where she finds a woman that's
chained to the wall now a normal person
would have left as soon as their friend
died and even if they did find a
basement there's no way anyone would
have gone down two levels to explore it
it's kind of messed up that I've seen so
many horror movies that if I ever found
someone chained up like this I would
probably think they were dangerous it's
like maybe she's a werewolf or a demon
or maybe she has some sort of power like
Cindy from the boys anyway she decides
to do something even dumber than staying
in the house and going into the basement
when she unchains the woman and stays in
the house for a second night night in a
row there's no way anyone would stay in
this house with all these dead bodies in
a secret torture lab in the basement
especially because she's not trapped or
injured and she even has a working car
so there's really only one reason why
she's still here because the movie has
to happen the clerics from equilibrium
show up do a little gunata and then they
drag Anna into the basement and this is
when things really start to get
uncomfortable the leader of this secret
society shows up and gives Anna the
exposition dump official torture
orientation and then they chain her up
in the basement and start slowly turning
her into a martyr this is the same group
that tortured Lucy as a kid and the
reason they did it is because they think
with enough pain a person can see into
the Afterlife the next 15 minutes are
basically Anna getting tortured day
after day until she finally sees
something and tells M moiselle the
entire cult shows up so they can hear
what she said but instead of telling
them mm moiselle goes into the bathroom
and herself this is one of the most
puzzling endings in cinematic history
and because we have so little
information about the organization or
any of the characters it's almost
impossible to figure out what Anna said
almost there's really only a few
possible things that she could have said
and if we simply reverse engineer the
final scene we can separate all the
individual boxes that would need to be
checked whatever Anna said has to be
something that Melle believes has to
make her want to kill herself has to be
something that she doesn't want to tell
anyone else and her final words keep
doubting have to have a deeper meaning
whenever I see people talk about this
ending they always approach it from the
same boring unoriginal perspective and
they never think that maybe they're
looking at this movie the wrong way
everyone only considers that Anna could
have said one of five things but none of
the those give us a satisfying answer of
course she could have said she didn't
see anything or she could have said she
wasn't going to say if she saw something
or not but neither of those check any of
the boxes she could have also said she
saw hell or something she can't explain
but there's no reason why these would
make Melle want to kill herself or why
she would keep it a secret now if I had
to pick a completely normal explanation
that everyone would agree with I would
say that heaven makes the most sense
Heaven is definitely something she would
believe and is obvious why she would
kill herself and it easily checks all
the boxes with a little explanation the
fear of death is the cult's main
motivation it's the reason why they're a
part of this it's the reason why they're
obsessed with the afterlife but it's
also the reason mzelle didn't tell
anyone Anna told her that she saw heaven
but the only way you can get in is if
you sacrifice something important
suicide is the most obvious way to
self-sacrifice but it's also proving
that she's no longer afraid of dying
she's mocking everyone with keep
doubting because she knows none of them
would be willing to do it she knows that
even if every one of them can see the
Afterlife with their own eyes they still
wouldn't be willing to kill themselves
because they feared death so much just
think about this this what do they plan
to do after they see the afterlife what
do they think this is going to
accomplish if they believe in the
afterlife then they believe they'll get
to see it someday so the only reason
they would spend this much time and
effort on this is if they're trying to
eliminate their fear of death now that
makes sense right I mean it checks all
the boxes it gives a reasonable
explanation to the ending and for being
honest that 60-second theory was
probably one of the best you've ever
heard about the ending of this movie and
even though that's a completely
acceptable explanation something about
it just doesn't feel right this woman
kidnapped killed and tortur people for
almost 20 years and instead of getting
punished for it she gets to cheat Cod
her way into heaven I think this movie
deserves something better something that
actually fits the tone of the story
something that's a little bit more
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complicated when it comes to theories
it's always easier to say that
everything was all a dream or all in
somebody's head but I've never seen
anyone say the opposite and claim that
an imaginary thing was actually real at
first I thought this would be more
difficult to do but when I started to
look for details to support this idea
the first thing I noticed was how easy
it would be to say that it was all in
her head now I know everyone hates this
as an explanation so if you wanted to
skip this part I completely understand
but I had to explore this idea so I can
make the opposite claim I don't really
believe it was all in her head but
there's a lot of details that could lead
you to that conclusion if you really
wanted it to I know the director
probably didn't put much thought into
this scene because he didn't think
anyone would question it but after Lucy
kills the family she calls Anna on a pay
phone and my question is how did Anna
know Lucy was going to call her and how
did Lucy know Anna would be waiting by
the pay phone this takes place in 1986
back when almost nobody had a cell phone
or a pager so how did they even
coordinate this at first I thought it
might be something they do all the time
but Anna has this old ass picture from
when they were kids and she acts like
she hasn't talked to her since then I
figured it was just an easy way to move
the story along and the director didn't
know another way for them to meet up
again but for me it opened the idea that
maybe both of these girls are the same
person the last time we saw both of them
was 15 years ago in the orphanage but
when we get reintroduced to Anna right
before Lucy calls her she's having a
panic attack just like Lucy
is it makes sense for Lucy to be acting
this way because she just killed four
people and she's severely mentally ill
but there's no reason why Anna would be
sitting in a parking lot eating a
sandwich and also having a panic attack
too as I said before this pay phone
scene doesn't really makes sense but if
you think of Anna and Lucy as being the
same person it would explain why they're
having the same reaction at the the same
time in very different circumstances and
the more I thought about it the more it
started to make sense because there was
another extreme French horror movie that
came out a few years before this caught
High attention and I'm sorry I got to
spoil the twist but in the end we find
out there never was a truck driver
killing people and it was really just
the girl killing everyone in imagining
that she was being chased by the trucker
the reason she started killing people
was a little vague but it's heavily
implied that she was in love with her
friend and not being able to have her is
what made her snap martyr has a similar
subplot too because Anna's in love with
Lucy but Lucy doesn't feel the same way
both movies play with sexual repression
mental illness and violent
hallucinations so because they're both
so thematically similar it's easy to
think that they could both share a
similar twist the biggest issue I have
with this idea is trying to explain the
cult the minute they show up it kills
the idea that Lucy is fake because it
would be an impossible coincidence for
Anna to have made up the cult and the
torture as part of Lucy's backstory and
then they end up being real exactly like
she imagined them so this idea doesn't
actually work when you start to ask more
questions but I just wanted to share
some of the the interesting details I
noticed because they could change your
interpretation of the
movie everyone's interpretation of
Lucy's Hallucination is that it's a
manifestation of her survivor's guilt
but something mm moiselle said directly
contradicts that theory the mental
trauma starts to break them and that
small easily open crack makes them see
things that don't exist in our world did
she see anything not even one monster
did she see things that wanted to
she said that everyone they torture
hallucinates something violent that
means Lucy's experience isn't unique and
her hallucinations can't be survivors
guilt something about the way they
torture people is causing everyone to
have violent hallucinations but for a
group that's actively trying to see into
another dimension they never consider
that what these girls are seeing might
actually be real just think about this
if an afterlife exists then a god
probably exists too and because seeing
into the Afterlife is pretty similar to
cheating death there would definitely
have to be consequences for opening
Pandora's Box anyone who SE sees into
the Afterlife or learns what happens
after death will be cursed with a
violent hallucination that will
eventually make him commit suicide if
you really think about the process of
creating a martyr is actually the
process of giving them armor they
systematically desensitize the Martyr by
making them accustomed to pain so when
they look into the Afterlife they can't
be hurt by the hallucinations but what
they didn't account for was the
possibility that even knowing what the
Martyr sees has the same consequences as
seeing it for themselves this movie is
very love crafty and at its core because
the central theme in all of his stories
is the consequences of forbidden
knowledge people going places they
shouldn't go seeing things they
shouldn't see and learning things they
shouldn't learn always ends in tragedy I
think trying to see until the afterlife
definitely meets the criteria and
because the afterlife is Supernatural it
only makes sense that the hallucinations
will be real when we first see the
scarred woman we don't know she's a
hallucination yet but after we see that
Lucy was doing everything to herself we
have to ask how could she cut her back
like this now I know a straight razor is
sharp but even if she was really
flexible it would would be very
difficult to apply enough pressure to
cut this part of her back this deep I
think the ghost woman really killed Lucy
and the only reason we didn't see her do
it is because we're seeing it happen
from Anna's perspective we only see her
when no one else is around so when
Anna's there and she watches Lucy's
throat be cut it looks like she's doing
it to herself in the final scene where
mzelle is alone in the bathroom we're
not seeing it from her perspective
because she's no longer the protagonist
the real protagonist of this scene is
her servant ATN from his perspective he
wouldn't be able to see whatever's
making her do it so just like with Anna
we can't see it either typically the
first character in a horror movie is
either the protagonist or a random
person that gets killed before the
credits but this opening scene goes
against that formula because Lucy
doesn't fit into either category for the
first 20 minutes she's kind of the
protagonist but then she ends up being a
temporary antagonist and then the focus
switches over to Anna but it's the same
situation with her because she's not
even the main character by the end
because the focus ends up switching over
to M moiselle and then finally to ATM I
would argue there never really was a
real protagonist because the story is
centered around a situation more than a
specific character and that allows the
story to be told from several different
perspectives when Anna told Melle what
she saw she passed the curse to her so
even though she didn't see the afterlife
anyone who knows what happens after
death has to be punished in the same way
she couldn't tell anyone what she heard
or else they would have to suffer the
same fate so she decided to take her
secret to the Grave so even if she could
handle the hallucinations and she had
the willpower to never tell anyone
there's a house full of people desperate
to know what she heard and are obviously
okay with using torture to get
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it I know it's hard to believe that a
group of people who kidnap and torture
people to death could be the good guys
but there's a few things that say this
might just be the case we don't know
what these people are really trying to
accomplish and we don't know what they
believe in but because they put so much
money time and effort into this
operation we know they have to believe
in something mm moiselle talks about
Jesus God and sin and she even believes
in the afterlife but the God she
worships can't be the Christian God
right why would she believe in chrisan
chis rewards for self-sacrifice but not
in Christian punishments for torturing
and killing people trying to see into
the Afterlife was never a convincing
objective to me and the one thing that
proves they're doing something other
than what they're telling us is the fact
that when we first see them they have
guns and tactical training the only
reason they came to the house was
because Anna left the phone off the hook
so why would they show up with their
guns out unless they were expecting
something dangerous to be there they
obviously know about the hallucinations
so when we look at the guns and the
tactical response to a phone that was
left off the hook we can assume that
they know the hallucinations are real
judging by the way they dress and the
way the organization is structured it
makes more sense for them to be demon
hunters or Ghostbusters than it does for
them to be doing whatever [ __ ]
they're telling us what if they're
torturing specific people because
they're potentially infected with one of
the hallucinations and the torture is
designed to force it to show itself and
give them information on how to close
the doors that allow them to cross over
into our world again just think about
why they would need guns for this
situation and if we take this path this
could even explain some of the questions
about Lucy I said in the beginning that
it didn't seem like this was the first
family she's killed and when you look at
the way she dresses and the Tactical gun
control she looks exactly like the other
cult members did when they showed up
she's definitely done this before
because she's way too comfortable with
killing innocent people you would only
wear all black if you were going to
commit a crime at night so the only
reason Lucy would be wearing all black
to commit a crime early in the morning
is because this is how the cult members
dress every day it makes sense for her
to be a former member of the cult but
they didn't know she was one of the
girls they tortured before Lucy was
tortured 15 years before she killed his
family and we're supposed to believe
that a 10-year-old kid locked in a dark
dirty ass Warehouse was able to
recognize the people who did it from a
small picture in the newspaper 15 years
later I think the reason she was able to
find the family is because the
hallucination convinced her that this
family was responsible for what happened
but the real reason she wanted to go
there is so she could free the woman in
the basement just think about this the
only reason Anna found the door to the
basement is because the hammer fell over
but unless there was an earthquake or
something there's no possible way this
could have fallen over well unless
something we can't see knocked it over
because it wanted Anna to find the door
to the basement
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what is a martyr a martyr is a person
who dies suffers or sacrifices something
important because of a principle or a
deeply held belief so the question is
how can Anna be a martyr she didn't
volunteer to be a part of this and she
doesn't believe in whatever these people
believe in so she doesn't meet the
criteria on any level as a matter of
fact none of the other potential Martyrs
die for a belief either and Melle even
points out that none of them believed in
God she didn't believe in God now this
could just be a semantic issue and
Martyr is just with chose to call them
but if the technical definition is the
same then the only person that meets the
criteria to be a martyr is M moiselle
the ending was so effective because it
cut out the entire third act there was
never a final showdown or a resolution
to the story so there should have at
least been 10 to 15 more minutes of
movie we never got a resolution we never
got to see everyone's reaction to what
she did and we don't even have any clue
what happens next in the story literally
anything could have happened and because
we don't know what they believe or what
they're really trying to accomplish we
can't say if her death was a good or a
bad bad thing I know everyone wants to
know what she could have heard that
would have made her kill herself but the
bigger question is why didn't she tell
anyone what she heard and I'll take it a
step further why did she tell everyone
to come to the house if she was just
going to kill herself when they got
there she obviously knew she was going
to do it before she went into the
bathroom so the only reason she would
have waited until everyone got there is
if everyone was already expecting it to
happen maybe Anna didn't actually say
anything important and madmoizelle was
going to kill herself no matter what so
when everyone heard the gunshot it meant
a prophecy was fulfilled or something
beneficial happened mm moiselle talks
about Jesus and how Martyrs carry the
sins of others so it's not hard to
believe that she would think killing
herself would take away the sins of the
other cult members and she would gain
access to the afterlife if we're all
being honest every religion has several
ridiculous beliefs if you look at them
objectively and Cults have even more
extreme idea so it's not a stretch to
think that these people would believe
something like this so if you can accept
that her death could have had a deeper
meaning to the cult and it wasn't
spontaneous then the only thing that
makes sense is if mm moiselle is the
Martyr
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yeah
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