Deep Sleep
Summary
TLDRThis transcript explores the nature of deep sleep, not as a physical state but as a metaphor for pure awareness— a state beyond thinking, sensing, or perceiving. It discusses how all experience arises from awareness itself, with no external or internal source. The conversation emphasizes that the sense of separation and resistance in life is an illusion, and true happiness is found in recognizing that everything is one, indivisible awareness. This realization dissolves opposition, suffering, and the need for seeking, offering peace and fulfillment.
Takeaways
- 🛌 Deep sleep is not a state as conceived by the mind, but rather the absence of thinking, sensing, and perceiving, revealing pure awareness.
- 💭 Awareness is the substance that modulates into thoughts, sensations, and perceptions, but nothing truly arises or appears in awareness.
- 🌍 There is no inside or outside of awareness; everything occurs within awareness and is made out of awareness itself.
- 🎶 Awareness is compared to the air or breath modulating into music; it becomes thoughts, perceptions, and sensations without losing its pure nature.
- 🔄 The body is a conceptual layer that is superimposed upon awareness, becoming progressively more solid in the waking state due to added beliefs.
- 🧘♂️ The yoga practice mentioned is an experiential return to the self, stripping away layers of concepts to reveal the body's true nature as pure awareness.
- 🌟 The separate self is an illusion, formed when the 'I thought' arises, dividing seamless awareness into 'me' and 'everything else.'
- 🤝 Opposition and resistance occur when the separate self arises, leading to suffering, but in the absence of a separate self, there is no resistance.
- 😊 Happiness is the natural state of awareness, free from opposition or resistance; it is the seamless experience of all things equally.
- 🎭 The actor (self) cannot leave the screen (awareness); resistance and suffering are illusions because everything is part of the same awareness.
Q & A
What does the speaker mean by 'deep sleep' in this context?
-The speaker uses 'deep sleep' to refer to a state of pure awareness, where there is an absence of thinking, sensing, and perceiving. It’s not the concept of sleep as understood by the waking mind, but rather an experience of pure knowingness before any thought or perception arises.
How does the waking mind conceive of deep sleep, according to the speaker?
-The waking mind conceives of deep sleep as a state of the mind, associating it with inactivity or unconsciousness. However, the speaker argues that this is a conceptual misunderstanding. True deep sleep, in the context of awareness, is the absence of thoughts and perceptions but still retains a form of pure knowingness.
What does the speaker mean by 'nothing real appears or disappears'?
-The speaker is suggesting that nothing truly comes into or out of existence in the realm of awareness. What we experience as thoughts, sensations, and perceptions are not separate entities that appear in awareness; they are simply modulations of the single substance of awareness itself.
How does the speaker describe the process of thinking, sensing, and perceiving?
-The speaker describes thinking, sensing, and perceiving as modulations of the same awareness. These experiences are conceptualized by the mind as thoughts, sensations, and perceptions, but in reality, they are made of the same pure awareness, which is ever-present.
Why does the speaker say that 'there is no outside and therefore no inside' in awareness?
-The speaker explains that awareness is not divided into inside and outside. There is no external world appearing in awareness from outside of it, nor is there an internal part separate from the external. All experiences happen within the seamless continuity of awareness itself.
What is the role of superimposed concepts in creating the illusion of a separate self?
-The speaker argues that layers of concepts created by thinking give the illusion of a solid body and a separate self. These layers, like successive elements (air, water, wood), are superimposed on pure awareness, creating a false sense of separation between 'I' and the external world.
How does the speaker relate the yoga practice to this awareness of deep sleep?
-In the yoga practice described, the participants gradually moved through stages of less solid body awareness until they realized that the body itself is made of pure knowingness. This exploration led to an experiential return to the state of deep sleep-like awareness while still awake.
What happens when the 'I thought' arises, according to the speaker?
-When the 'I thought' arises, the seamlessness of awareness seems to split into two: a separate self ('I') and everything else ('the world'). This division creates the potential for opposition, resistance, and suffering, as the 'I' seeks to cling to or reject experiences.
How does the speaker define happiness in this context?
-Happiness is defined as the natural condition of all experience when there is no opposition, resistance, or separation. It arises when the illusion of a separate self dissolves, leaving only the seamless substance of awareness, where everything is experienced equally without resistance.
Why does the speaker claim that there is no real ignorance or suffering?
-The speaker claims that ignorance and suffering are illusions created by the mind. In the true state of awareness, there is no separation or resistance, and thus no real ignorance or suffering. Everything exists in a unified field of pure awareness, where opposition is impossible.
Outlines
🌙 Understanding Deep Sleep as Pure Awareness
In this paragraph, the speaker discusses 'deep sleep' not as a mental state but as pure awareness, free from sensing, thinking, and perceiving. The waking state mind conceptualizes deep sleep, but in reality, it is simply pure awareness without any external influence. Nothing arises or disappears in awareness because everything is part of it. The speaker emphasizes that the substance of all experience is awareness, which modulates itself into forms like thoughts, sensations, and perceptions. This modulation leads to the creation of the body and the world, but ultimately, nothing real appears or disappears. Everything is a manifestation of awareness, and our true self is this substance, always present, even in deep sleep.
💧 Layers of Imposed Beliefs on Awareness
This paragraph delves into how beliefs and concepts are superimposed on pure awareness. The speaker explains how the body is first described as something subtle, like air, then water, and later wood, symbolizing the layers of belief that thought imposes on awareness. However, these layers are illusory because thought itself is made of awareness. The speaker highlights that there is no real veiling of our true nature, and once this is realized, opposition and resistance dissolve. The illusion of a separate self, which gives rise to suffering, is removed when we recognize that everything is part of the same seamless awareness. This realization brings happiness, the natural state of experience when there is no resistance or opposition.
Mindmap
Keywords
💡Deep Sleep
💡Awareness
💡Sensing, Thinking, Perceiving
💡Knowingness
💡Superimposed Concepts
💡Seamless Substance
💡I Thought
💡Happiness
💡Resistance
💡Illusion of Ignorance
Highlights
Deep sleep, as discussed, is not a mental state but the absence of thinking, sensing, and perceiving.
The waking state mind often conceives deep sleep as a state, but here it's explained as pure knowingness before thoughts and perceptions arise.
Nothing truly arises or disappears in awareness; it is the sole substance of experience, modulating into thoughts, sensations, and perceptions.
Awareness doesn't have an inside or outside. There are no objects appearing in awareness; everything is already present as awareness.
The mind imposes layers of conceptual beliefs onto awareness, but these are not real—only pure knowingness exists.
There is no separate self that experiences opposition or resistance in pure awareness, leading to a natural state of happiness.
The process of exploring body awareness reveals that the body is made of pure knowingness, becoming less solid at each stage.
The metaphor of air, water, and wood represents the layers of superimposed concepts that the mind adds to pure awareness.
Happiness is the absence of opposition or resistance. It's the natural condition when there's no separate self to resist or oppose anything.
The 'I-thought' creates the illusion of a separate self, dividing the seamlessness of awareness into 'me' and 'everything else.'
The experience of happiness is the natural state of awareness, where no resistance or opposition can occur.
In pure awareness, there is no real suffering because there is no real opposition or ignorance—only the illusion of these concepts.
Resistance and seeking are products of the mind's creation of a separate self, leading to suffering.
The actor on the screen (representing the self) cannot leave the screen (awareness); all experiences are ultimately expressions of awareness.
In Indian philosophy, ignorance is considered an illusion, as awareness contains no real resistance, opposition, or suffering.
Transcripts
I could you just talk about deep sleep a
little bit more you're using that
synonymously with presence awareness
that's just another yes what when I use
the term deep sleep in this context I'm
not referring to a state which is
conceived by the waking state mind and
it's using concept that that's which is
a concept I'm speaking of the actual
experience of ourselves before thinking
sensing and perceiving has arisen our
term sleep gives us the wrong
connotation yes yes the the the waking
state mind conceives of deep sleep as a
state of the mind I'm referring to it as
as
the complete absence of sensing thinking
and perceiving just the pure knowingness
which subsequently becomes so to speak
the substance of thinking sensing and
perceiving so it's not even true
sometimes we use the phrase thinking
arises or a thought arises or appears
nothing in fact arises or appears
because this would suggest that those
awareness and then something appeared in
awareness from outside of awareness but
nothing comes from outside there is no
outside and therefore no inside of
awareness there is just awareness and
this sole substance of experience is
modulated and becomes thinking sensing
and perceiving thinking then says
conceptualizes these as thoughts
sensations and perceptions then a mind
or body and the world and then thought
says that these arise in or
appear in awareness or space but but
that even that formulation makes a
concession to the belief that there are
objects which appear in awareness and
then disappear
nothing real appears nothing real
disappears that which is never ceases to
be that which is not never comes into
existence the substance of all
experience is already present it's the
only thing the only stuff that is
present and it is that stuff which is
our self that is then apparently
modulated in all the forms of experience
just like this transparent sigh and
breath is modulated in all the forms of
music
so in this yoga that we did this morning
as we went through these different
stages and we got to just the presence
that could also be saying said is deep
asleep
yes but we were awake but we're in deep
sleeping so exciting down and that but
that was yes so terms of difficulty
exploration we did this morning was like
an experiential return to ourself a
return because we were exploring the
body we were returning as it were from
the feeling of being a solid body we
were tracing our way back and seeing
that each state that the at each stage
the body was experienced as less and
less solid until we realized that it's
only made of the knowing of it only made
of pure no unless awake and what we call
and wake state of us really yes and that
this this knowing substance in is aware
it's it's wide awake it doesn't go to
sleep it doesn't turn off the body
didn't become that what we were actually
doing was relieving our experience of
successive layers of imposed concepts
superimposed concepts in fact we were
never a body that became more and more
and more subtle we are always only this
presence of awareness the body is always
only that but thinking an added layer
upon layer upon layer first of all
describes the thinking first of all
describes this completely empty
knowingness as having a very subtle
objectivity hence the image of air the
body be made out of air rather than out
of pure emptiness and then the air
becomes water and then the water becomes
wood these are the successive layers of
superimposed beliefs that thought alone
imagines and superimposes
on awareness of course that thought
itself is only made of awareness so this
whole the whole thing takes place in
awareness made out of awareness and
therefore there is no real veiling of
our true nature really exactly what
exactly that's it what a relief because
when we when we realize this we know
that there's nothing need be opposed in
life what is there in our experience in
order to oppose there need to be at
least two parts one part here that says
no to the other part over there I don't
like that but in this seamless substance
made out of this purely there are no
parts there is no separate self present
to oppose and therefore to seek so the
separate self is the first the separate
self is like a precipitation
precipitated out of this seamless
colorless substance that it's the first
object to arise and with the arising of
this primal object the I thought the
seamlessness of awareness the not to
Ness of awareness seems to be divided in
two parts me a separate eye a separate
ones and everything else and then the
everything
else is then further subdivided into a
multiplicity and diversity of objects
and from that moment from the moment
that the I thought arises opposition
resistance becomes possible I in this
little corner of experience does or
doesn't like the rest of the world
either wants to reject the rest or cling
on to the rest that is unhappiness that
movement is suffering but in the absence
of this manufactured self that that
there is no resistance there is no
opposition and therefore there is no
seeking what do we call that in life
when there is no opposition or
resistance it's just called happiness
that's what happiness is that the
natural condition of all experience it's
not an experience of a body or a mind it
is the substance of all experience it is
how experience experiences itself not
how a separate eye seems to experience
the rest but from the inside from
experiences point of view which is of
course the only real point of view
experience experiences everything
equally close it cannot resist there is
nothing inside itself with which it
could resist itself that is the
experience of happiness what a relief
exactly that and there's no at nothing
to resist and nowhere to go who would be
the one that was resisting and who would
be the one that was going somewhere
where does the actor on the on this on
the screen go it can never leave the
screen it can seem to resist it can seem
to go somewhere but it never truly
resists anything there is no real
resistance that is why in India they say
that they don't have a word for ignorant
it's the illusion of ignorance there is
no real ignorant there
real resistance and therefore there is
no real suffering
so during the
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